I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!
people in the media today consider it to be sports rap or slickness man if your black and have none of those people dont' think you are man and it's stupid to do that

To hell with the critics and all the ni**az talkin' sh*t. Do your own thing, cuz.

No one accepts me into their circle...
why is that?

Hi BioRhythm
Yes you are right
we have all heard it at least once
"He doesn't count"
To me it is all in the system
of brain washing and control
fill with doubts
and many question

I always felt Black is a Culture

The system want to catalog
itemize, and keep US divided.
Enforcing what we see on TV
hear in the Music
Read in the newspaper
and taught in school
Limiting our thoughts
to what they want US to think
and believe,
bringing on that feeling "You're less then"
So they can feel "More then"
And some of our Brothers and Sisters don't see it
Or even feel it

In the end
We are all of the flesh
and the blood flows the same
When we're cut.
But that is to simple.
(because of the lack of education of US they are limited)
Looking forward to reading your part 2

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

BioRhythm ... Hello and Welcome ... :wave:

I think that being Black simply means that your people are from Africa.

I also think that the confusion, or challenge to fit in with each other, comes when we believe that on top of that ... our people being from Africa ... that we must all be the same ... and of course we are not.

We are individuals, and as such, will vary one from the other in many aspects.

Rather than trying to make each other be the same, we should embrace our differences ... they make us richer!

Well ... that's my 2 cent.

I too look forward to part no. 2.

Please make yourself at home, because you are.

:heart:

Destee

Originally Posted by BioRhythm
I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

In order for the rest of society (and even some of our own people) to accept us as "black", we have to live up to the media's portrayal of our character; when we know in fact that not everyone black individual is that way. Personally, I think they use that as a buffer between us and the rest of the races. To try to downplay our oppression and the blatant neglect of our race. But we expirence everyday the fact that we are not wanted. I get the impression that you feel this way because who you really are, and what everyone else wants you to be is conflicting. If this is the case, maybe you should refer to the thread " Do intelligent Brothas Feel alone?" in the Black Warriors sub-section. Some very good points are brought up. MAybe they may help some?

In order for the rest of society (and even some of our own people) to accept us as "black", we have to live up to the media's portrayal of our character; when we know in fact that not everyone black individual is that way.


Well put, and I totally agree.

As a man who has evolved/changed myself many times over the years I've learned better than to lable certain traits, characteristics, and behaviors as "black".

It only serves to further divide and alienate those in our community.


Plus, it seems to trap too many of us in negative stereotypes that we feel the need to imitate in order to satisfy other's expectations of us.

Some bruthaz join a street gang because it's the "black" thing to do.

Some bruthaz hang out and drink malt-liquor because it's the "black" thing to do.

Some of us are constantly late all the time and call it "Colored People" time.

We are incorporating self-destructive behavior into our culture.

frankly, i'm feeling that to be "Black" means about as much as it means to be "Afr[ican/o] American"; about fifteen cents short of buying a dime loaf of bread. (ok, there may be a need for an inflation allowance!)

WE ARE ALL AFRICANS!!!!

and until we can get to that ...

but, at least i can wow them on the dance floor enough that they will accept the fact that my skin and hair says that i AM "Black"! (two of them! is cointelpro watching me and getting youse guyses to toss up these posts for me? <g>LOL)
"WE ARE ALL AFRICANS!!!!"

Have you looked in the mirror lately?

Excuse me I'm 19 and I would like to comment on this forgive me if I sound ignorant or stupid I'm still learing,lol. I feel that the reason the word is ever changing because it has its roots nowhere in land culture and most of all history for our people Its dehumanizing to be referred to as a noun as if we are objects the real use of the word is so that we will be as a parallel world to the European. A car is black, a cat is black, a skillet is black but those are all objects we are human beings we would be better off calling ourselves by another name like an African one or something.

The reason that they can take Egypt and say that it wasn't a black nation is because they have taken all the dark skin nations and called them one at the same time destroying records of each individual dark or black nation's achievements, this is what I feel that with statistics about the black on black crime,racial profiling, and stereotyping they say we are too unimportant to be considered as individuals therefore nations like Egypt couldn't have been a dark or black one. When you take away what makes an individual unique you make him/her an animal simple as that. Names give meanings and as whole with the meaning of black ever chang among whites and us you begin to understand why I see people with names like Jau'Quesha, Taneka, and Laquinta. People when they find out what there names mean they begin to act like the meaning there of, My nickname use to be Big Boy before my voice changed so thats what I acted like, and my conclusion that if your name doesn't mean anything as a people or individual your life means nothing. We must find a name that was not given to us by him.

Remember I'm 19 and I just couldn't find an interesting topic on the Teenage Forum so please be nice to me and excuse my bad grammar and punctuation I'm still learning it also.

I feel symbolically and statistically speaking we are fatherless nation which almost makes us no nation because without knowing who your father is and his father before him you are continuously lost as far as your ethnicity and heritage goes. I'm grateful of knowing who my great great Grandfather was and from a straight like they did in the bible father to son. I am the 5th generation of being able to read and write and the 4th to graduate high school soon I will be one of many in my family to graduate from college and If it wasn't for George Milam a big strong man my family wouldn't be anywhere to this day. Names and words mean everything and thats what I believe.

Have you looked in the mirror lately?

FromTheHip:

Have you read our Mission Statement lately? We Are About Loving, Encouraging, Embracing, Teaching and Building With Our People. No Hate Allowed. If there is any confusion "our people" mean Black People. If you are confused about "Black People" that doesn't mean just African Americans, but any person in the world who is Black. Clearly this is not your target audience for your "conservative" writings. Thus let me suggest to you that you find another way to gain attention to your articles. I seriously doubt anyone here is interesting in them.

FromTheHip:

Have you read our Mission Statement lately? We Are About Loving, Encouraging, Embracing, Teaching and Building With Our People. No Hate Allowed. If there is any confusion "our people" mean Black People. If you are confused about "Black People" that doesn't mean just African Americans, but any person in the world who is Black. Clearly this is not your target audience for your "conservative" writings. Thus let me suggest to you that you find another way to gain attention to your articles. I seriously doubt anyone here is interesting in them.
Seven words got you rattled?

Free your mind and your @ss will follow... just by being you.

You are who your father is. Always trace your heritage by the line of your father - it's that simple.

You are who your father is. Always trace your heritage by the line of your father - it's that simple.
WELCOME...WELCOME...WELCOME.

Kick back and relax. Share your thoughts, your ideas, your experiences and your dreams with us if you like. You's Family now. (...soundin' like Suge Avery in the Color Purple. :lol: )

:grouphug:

:D

You are who your father is. Always trace your heritage by the line of your father - it's that simple.
some would disagree.

You are who your father is. Always trace your heritage by the line of your father - it's that simple.

Actually it isn't that simple, many cultures trace their family/genetic lines through their mother. A primary reason for this is the man who is assumed to be the father often is not!

Did anybody know that the khoisan people of southern African are said to be part of a different race? I just read somewhere where it was said they are part of the Capoid genetic stock and not the Negroid. I don't even know what a Capoid is does anybody else know? It sounds like they are breaking black populations down alot over there in Africa, I mean a whole lot.They say there is only 600 or 700 million Africans on the continent which is extremely low if you ask me because they say land wise Africa could fit the United States,China,India, Spain and still have room to spare. That is alot of open land because China has 1.3 billion people and India itself has a billion, which would make at least 1 out of every 3 people on this Earth from the China or India along, while Africa represents a much smaller world population.

Isn't it amazing? With so few people on such a large continent I still wouldn't be surprised if more languages were spoken on the continent of Africa than the rest of the world combined. I would agree with Chandra on being what your father is, I mean a man nor a nation can continue itself without a/the son/sun.

Did anybody know that the khoisan people of southern African are said to be part of a different race? I just read somewhere where it was said they are part of the Capoid genetic stock and not the Negroid. I don't even know what a Capoid is does anybody else know? It sounds like they are breaking black populations down alot over there in Africa, I mean a whole lot.

That is absolutely ridiculous brother Deepvoice! Where did you hear/read that nonsense? Where ever you did, it isn't true. The khoisan are black people.

Yeah I was on a couple of websites that said that. One site said although the Khoisan people only number a few hundred thousand that they are genetically as different from other sub-saharan Africans as Caucasians are from Chinese are Japanese. I didn't make it up but I don't remember what website either and there is not that much on the Capoid stock.

First one must define what black is Pan, is Vijay Singh black? Is Sade? Is black defined by people being of African descent? Because if so then all of mankind is black, wouldn't they be? Is black defined by having dark brown skin and nappy or coarse hair? Is it defined by have a broad nose with thick lips? If so then many people in Ethiopia fall under the definition of Caucasian as well as Vijay Singh. Common ancestry doesn't make a people a nation but a common belief system,values, and goals do. Chinese consider themselves entirely different from Japanese, are they wrong because they both are slanted eyed and yellow skinned? They are brothers because of this? I think when people think like that they have a very elementary type of mentality.

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

peace BioRhythm & welcome aboard Destee.com,

To me Black means to be one with the mind, body and spirit which can only be maintained in a positive mindset....if the mind is not positive, it is not "black" therefore making the owner as beastly as any slave master!

- many of us make the mistake of thinking black is a color because this is what we were "taught", but nothing could be further from truth. This is why some of us are alienated because of our dark skin or positive thinking.

- Blackness is energy & put in positive use by a positive mind equates to light brighter than the closest star....."as above, so below"

you are not an outcast brother, it's just that they are afraid to be you!

I/We accept you & you can enter our circumference as you will................

may the ancestors forever smile upon you!

Ase'

Its dehumanizing to be referred to as a noun as if we are objects the real use of the word is so that we will be as a parallel world to the European. A car is black, a cat is black, a skillet is black but those are all objects we are human beings we would be better off calling ourselves by another name like an African one or something.

The reason that they can take Egypt and say that it wasn't a black nation is because they have taken all the dark skin nations and called them one at the same time destroying records of each individual dark or black nation's achievements, this is what I feel that with statistics about the black on black crime,racial profiling, and stereotyping they say we are too unimportant to be considered as individuals therefore nations like Egypt couldn't have been a dark or black one. We must find a name that was not given to us by him.

Remember I'm 19 and I just couldn't find an interesting topic on the Teenage Forum so please be nice to me and excuse my bad grammar and punctuation I'm still learning it also.

I am genuinely impressed with the spiritual awareness and intellectual agility displayed in your post in that I wasn’t anywhere near your level at your age.

Even our leaders back in the 50’s, 60’s and even now don’t realise that language in particular is the operating system for the brain like Windows XP or NT is for computers, thus making it very difficult for peoples of African ethnicity in the USA and the rest of the Diaspora to sidestep European influence because their language is literally our mother tongue.

An easy example of this concept at work is the fact that we collectively and individually insist on using the word Black, which is a colour when what we are actually describing, is our African ethnicity.

Black apart from being consistently inaccurate [there are hundreds of millions of brown/black skinned Indians who are not of African ethnicity] is also consistently used within European cultures as a disparaging term, i.e. Black Day, The Black Death, Black Magic, Blackmail, Blackout etc whereas no one says African Day, Africanmail, Africanout, which is why African is preferable to Black [and should be used consistently instead of Black] on every level.

Africans were separated from our names, language, culture and history in order to keep us direction less and totally baffled and confused, thus if you compare our communities in the Diaspora and countries in Africa with Europe and Europeans and even the formerly colonised Asians and Asia you can see how effective this strategy has been.

Excuse me I'm 19 and I would like to comment on this forgive me if I sound ignorant or stupid I'm still learing,lol. I feel that the reason the word is ever changing because it has its roots nowhere in land culture and most of all history for our people Its dehumanizing to be referred to as a noun as if we are objects the real use of the word is so that we will be as a parallel world to the European. A car is black, a cat is black, a skillet is black but those are all objects we are human beings we would be better off calling ourselves by another name like an African one or something.

The reason that they can take Egypt and say that it wasn't a black nation is because they have taken all the dark skin nations and called them one at the same time destroying records of each individual dark or black nation's achievements, this is what I feel that with statistics about the black on black crime,racial profiling, and stereotyping they say we are too unimportant to be considered as individuals therefore nations like Egypt couldn't have been a dark or black one. When you take away what makes an individual unique you make him/her an animal simple as that. Names give meanings and as whole with the meaning of black ever chang among whites and us you begin to understand why I see people with names like Jau'Quesha, Taneka, and Laquinta. People when they find out what there names mean they begin to act like the meaning there of, My nickname use to be Big Boy before my voice changed so thats what I acted like, and my conclusion that if your name doesn't mean anything as a people or individual your life means nothing. We must find a name that was not given to us by him.

Remember I'm 19 and I just couldn't find an interesting topic on the Teenage Forum so please be nice to me and excuse my bad grammar and punctuation I'm still learning it also.


Brother Deepvoice, you are on the right path young brother…keep studying…. I agree with land mass and our identification to it as being important (this was also Dr. John Hendrik Clarke’s reasoning).

But consider this also, we are a complex and multifaceted people and have the right to define ourselves by various identifiers.

Let’s try to view things from a non-linear and non-European perspective…

Who are these people, who have become known as the Black people some may ask?

Well, we are a people who can exemplify a profuse degree of melanin in our skin that can absorb the sun’s energy…a people who dwelt heavily and heavenly in the upper regions of the world (the South). It was our sacred region of beginnings. Our hair is known to usually spiral like the galaxies and other natural or sacred proportions (also known as the Fibonacci sequence) …All spirituality, religion, ascetic knowledge, metaphysical sciences and high civilization evolved from our kind…the fact that our people had and have profuse melanin, was more than just about, the aesthetics of color or environmental purposes, without any other practical, physiological or spiritual purposes.

But let’s turn this around…the question should be…why are we even embracing the negative or superficial connotations given by Europeans for the definition or observation of Blackness. Europeans are just misconstruing and improperly redefining what they don’t understand and are afraid of. …. Melanin is being study in industrial and technological laboratories all over the world…it’s the most well-known, if not only natural organic semiconductor…Black folks need to get up to speed about who they are and stop thinking so linear.

Peace

black means to be able to express myself how i please.. the interpetation dosent matter to the world.. because they think were all some crazy.. anger stricken.. welfare needin race anyways! To be able to do the simpelest things.. and amaze white folks.. cause they thought we couldnt.. black means you have the ability to constantly reverse a steriotype.. one day at a time!

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

" I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? "


They are probable saying this because of something you shared about your parents.

They may be saying this because you don't seem to be experiencing the same struggles as some who say this struggle with.

" but of course i am completely african "

This answers your question of who you identify with. Others accepting that should not be your main concern. Deep down we all are looking for acceptance. In doing so. We get rejection in friendships, relationships and kinship. Sometimes not much can be done on those levels. To change views. What has to be accepted is you of yourself. Don't change to fit in.

Your views are different. That may be why you are told that you don't fit into being black. Those same views may fit in other places ( with other folks or races ) but those excuding you there are looking at what they percieve of your features, actions or what they also know about your lineage.

Know that those who exclude anyone is closed minded. If they wanted a friendship or relationship. These differences wouldn't matter.

" but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... "

They don't. You don't.

I don't grab my crouch, or walk with a cool swagger. I don't drink malt liguor or curse all the time. Never fired a gun. Never been locked up. Never been in a police car. Faithful to my mate. I tell the truth. Never back bite. I never put others down. I think positive. I plan for the future. One year, and five year goals. Make some solid business decisions. Industrious. I'm All Black.

There are facets of each one of us that do not fit a mold. Or Stereotype.

One supervisor said to me once. " You don't act like the typical black person "
See he was in the process of denying me a pay raise, and promotion. I had finished a education ( got a degree or piece of paper stating I finished or knew microwave electronics ) he told me that I had to have and complete this process if I wanted that raise. So for two years he had a reason not give me more than fifty cents each year.

I already had enough college education, experience and self education that was good enough to train and I did all of his engineers. As we walked along the street. No witnesses as he wanted. He showed to me his racist teeth. With this statement. I kicked them all in.

I told him I am typical, because I know many black men and women that are exceptional.

What it means to be black is what ever you make and wish it to be. Life is about your happiness. No one elses.

You can't make another happy. You have to be happy and positive then and only then can you enhance the life of another.

Looking forward to part two....

I don't use black or white; I say Alkebulanian or European. There is a difference between being black, and being the true Alkebulanian warrior that God made us out to be. The stronger warriors would not need to care who is black or white.

CD

i am not black, i am african ethnic. may i ask, does being african come with a way one must behave or live? many times i have encountered people (africans) saying "nah girl, what you just did wasn't black"... tell me something, was i asleep when they were handing out the manual???

In the white man’s world you always have to dialectically choose opposites…this is the fallacy of his mindset. Using non-European African-centered consciousness, you can be Black, Alkebulanian, Kemetic, African or any combination of factors, identifiers or perceived manifestations…one god can be represented by a multitude of names…the fact you are trying to define and redefine yourselves or better yet, choose a singular definition is linear Europeanism…

Blackness is more of a personal aesthetic , and the best way I can answer the question is I am a combination of everything American, I'm almost as Black as the crayon, but when around whites I'M white, to the extent to communicate with them in way they can accept and understand, and this aesthetic can be applied to any race or subculture in this society.
The main problem with race is the power system uses race to seperate themselves from, and to use the race against race, or people in a race against other people of the same race to support the power system, and people blindly fall for it, they've been conditioned to it, without realizing it or questioning it like you have.
In America, the race question is a smoke screen that keeps the race caught up in pointless debates, and I think we need to think more about a legal national term of Identity like Afrimerican, ...
Here are the definitions of Afrimerican

AFRIMERICAN 1. AF/RI/ME/RI/CAN – NOUN
Definition; A member of a race of mankind, born in the United States of America, descended from African immigrants, classified and characterized according to physical features such as skin tone, hair texture, skeletal build, (i.e. nose, lips, etc…)


AFRIMERICAN 2. AF/RI/ME/RI/CAN – NOUN
Definition; A member of a race of mankind, born
In the United States of America, descended from African immigrants.

AFRIMERICAN 3. AF/RI/ME/RI/CAN – NOUN
Definition; A member of a race of mankind born in the Americas’, descended from Adam and Eve.

Take your pick.

Which of their dictionaries is this in?

"Immigrants", eh? Is that what they're calling it now? Or is this a group other than those descended from formerly enslaved Africans?

Interesting concept. Almost seems to smack of yet another propaganic tactic. It's just funny: just as soon as it looks like something might come together, there is another wrinkle tossed in!

I'm sorry, I meant to respond to an earlier post, per, the immigrant part of the Afrimerican definition you questioned.
Immigrant, migrant, migrate, all are terms that designate movement from one place to another, usually involving people, Immigrant refers to a coming (to), migrant or migrate refer to a going (to), I used immigrant because it's the basic root cause of how Africans came to be here, or most anywhere, as with other nationalities of people that departed the nation of their birth, and be it forced, or voluntary, it still applies. Per your other question of which one of their dictionaries is it in, none, Websters, Oxford, Random, they won't touch it. Why? Because, Like you point out, there is already a set, established, recognized, fed, and fed off of system of seperation in/with AfricanAfricans, African-British, African-German, etc, etc,..., and the institutionalized negative racism, and the terms/words presently used, and how, and academically defined, that presently exist in dictionaries are defined to keep the institution going, and feeding the negative, while the legal definitions are ambiguous, and buried under layer upon layer of confusing, and misdirecting info, one gets tired of looking, and when found , the legal definition is worded in such a way as to have a dual meaning, and one can't really ascertain which meaning takes precedent, because the precedent definition is in caselaws, and legal caselaw history that is being taken out of books available to the public, but still very much used and accessible by those who are part of the perpetuation of the lies and deception, to use at will. Afrimerican being new, being fresh, being positive, addresses all that, and on it's own merits, creates a new foundation that forces the old one to be abolished. The thing I see is, in America, the system gives the race terms of description, and then they change it every 10 to 15 years, thus creating an identity crisis, and an inner race debate that is false, and totally manufactured to distract from more pertinent issues, and it not only causes an aura of seperation among the elders of the race, it causes a definite seperation, and a false sense of self among the youth of the race, as being different from the elders of the race, with neither seeing it's all the same lie, being repeated over and over, and each gropu is reacting to what they see they don't have, and settling on what's given that seems to be in their best interest of establishing a differnce from , but it's all B.S.
what do we do here, we debate a moot point, because it's been debated to death, but no one offers a solution, I have, now it's a matter of getting Afrimerican people to get out of the lies they see and react to as truth.
The solution is, on a nation by nation basis, Afric/Negroid people need to establish an identity that is national per the land of where they are born, and combine it with a ancestrial connotation to denote, basically an evolution of what seems to be a new duality, but it's a triallity, of the ancestry, the nationality, and of sovereignity;(thus eliminating the degree of forced and volunteered sub serviency Negroid people worldwide are engaged)
With Afrimerican, in America, one could say we've evolved into a new people, a new tribe, and since America is looked at, and to, and as a social leader, and leadership examples all the world follows or adopts some part of , Afrimericans are in a unique position to break a pattern of divide and conquer, and unite as what could be considered a new tribe, and when done on a national level, we would have a sovereignty as is given the American Indians, then worldwide, we will be a beginning and example for African descendants born in other countries to establish and do same, and on, and on,... the point is, we have to do something different, end the debates, and make a new start that is free of the negatives, and negative influences and stereotypes of the past, which are dead but keeps getting resurrected.
AS I READ ALL THE DIFFERENT RESPONSES, THE POINT IS PROVEN, WITH A BEGGING QUESTION BEING, WHICH RESPONDENTS ARE aMERICAN BORN, WHOCH ARE NOT , WHICH ARE AFRICA BORN, WHICH ARE NOT, ...AS I SAID THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE POWERS THAT BE GET THE RACE TO DEBATE, AND THE DEBATE IS MOOT, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT NATION ONE IS IN AND THE LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF SAME, ARE DIFFERENT FROM COUNTRY, AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE WANT TO EMBRACE A UNIVERSAL ETHNIC UNITY, THE BASIC DAY TO DAY REALITIES HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AND ADDRESSED, OR IT'S JUST A DEBATE WITH AN INFINITE END, MAKING IT POINTLESS, I'M HEARTBREKINGLY SADDENED READING WHAT I READ THAT SHOW THE NEGROID PEOPLE ARE SO FOCUSED ON TRYING TO BE AND OR ADOPT IDENTITIES THAT HAVE VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON THEIR HERE AND NOW, RIGHT NOW, SOCIAL POSITION REALITIES AS ESTABLISHED BY NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL ACADEMIC AND LEGAL APPLICATIONS, AND NO AMOUNT OF DEBATE, OR ADOPTING OF LONG DEAD IDENTITIES, AND LIES ABOUT SAME, CHANGES THAT FACT, THUS THE EXERCISES IN SUCH ARE PLAIN STUPID. WAKE UP, IT'S A NEW DAY. WHILE WE DEBATE , WE AS A RACE, NATION TO NATION, SEPERATLY AND COLLECTIVELY, ARE FALLING FURTHER, AND FURTHER BACK, NEGROID PEOPLE, ARE THE ONLY RACE THAT LIVE IN THIRD WORLD POVERTY LIKE CONDITIONS IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AND WHILE WE DEBATE WE LOOSE MORE AND MORE. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT LIVE IN AMERICA , NEGROID PEOPLE BORN IN AMERICA, WE, AS AFRIMERICANS, CAN END THE DEBATE, UNITE NATIONALLY, CREATE OUR OWN SOVEREIGNTY, AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S NOT SAID TO SHUT ANYONE OUT, IT'S SAID BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I AM, THIS IS WHERE I SEE A PROBLEM, AND THIS WHERE I SEE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM, SOMEONE, OR A GROUP OF SOMEONES NEED TO DO THIS IN OTHER NATIONS SOLELY FOR THE NEW IDENTITY OF NEGROID PEOLE BORN IN THAT COUNTRY WHO STILL DEBATE THEIR IDENTITY, AND IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, HERES A NEW OLD ONE, ... WHEN THE SLAVERS WENT TO AFRICA, AND STOLE PEOPLE, THEY STOLE THE LAND OF THE PEPOLE THEY STOLE, AND THEY WIPED OUT THEIR WHOLE "TRIBAL" HISTORY, AS IF IT NEVER EXISTED, THUS FOR MOST, THE TRIBE YOU DESCENDED FROM IS LONG DEAD, IT'S TIME TO BE REBORN.
DON'T BE MAD AT ME FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.

i aint mad....






i,m standing here...looking to the sky with my mouth open ...







cause truth here is spoken....




amen....







and i dont care if i stand here alone in my responding...

or in sharing what you say....




i know youre words comes from a higher mighty force....




and if people want to hear the truth and move forward..


than they take it or leave it...









there is a big blessing and anointment on youre head....


and calling....




(and i,m serius....)


and i will pray for you for guidance and strength mighty wisdom and Love and peace..and that you will experiance beautifull things trough youre journey..










i got youre back bro....


and if you need someone to stand beside you in this let me know ok....

and hopefully others to...



they will


those who folow the truth....












i,m still speechless here....











Loveauroraflower:heart:

Hotep

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To be Black or Afrikan is to learn Every thing there is to know*
To be Black or Afrikan is to be your self*
To be Black or Afrikan is to be self saficent*
To be Black or Afrikan is to be independent*
To be Black or Afrikan is to have a strong Family*
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To be Black or Afrikan is to set the example of excellence*
To be Black or Afrikan is to love and respect the Black Woman*
To be Black or Afrikan is to live in harmony with the Earth*
To be Black or Afrikan is to love the Black Man and Black Woman*
To be a Black Man is to be a protector, Warrior, builder, ect.*
To be a Black Woman is to be the Mother of Civilization, ect.*
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To be Black or Afrikan is to Know your G-d*
To be Black or Afrikan is to Bow to No One*

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iI think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!


Hi BioRhythm,
I think what it means to be black is to first find out who you are, what you like and dislike and have the courage to peel off the layers of brainwash from society until you reach your soul's purpose.

The technical or scientific part of black is having melanocytes (cells which produce melanin) to give you your color. This is of the ultimate benefit, because we are made environmentally correct, meaning we are made to be in harmony with the universe. Ex: Black absorbs vibes or waves better than any other colors, like black leather in a car gets hot a lot quicker. This may sound stereotypical, but honestly look at our history of music, dancing, athletics, etc., we pretty much reign supreme. We can even shake hands with someone or get a sense or feel right away if something is wrong or right.

The texture of our hair in its natural state was termed to be at one time "kingly" hair, then went to kinky, then nappy according to European. Our hair is very strong and thick usually. It's a protective covering to our scalp at a time when the ozone layer is depleting, many people are getting all kinds of cancers from the sun, hence melanoma, however its not to likely for us as a people.

Anyways, be who you are, love who you are, and remember there are a lot of us who have no clue about ourselves, so we repeat the same cycle of brainwash and taunting insults to each other. Free yourself and be you and don't let anyone else define you!

Peace and love

Hi BioRhythm
Yes you are right
we have all heard it at least once
"He doesn't count"
To me it is all in the system
of brain washing and control
fill with doubts
and many question

[QUOTE]I always felt Black is a Culture

I agree.


The system want to catalog
itemize, and keep US divided.

We need to look closer at how we divide each other.


Enforcing what we see on TV
hear in the Music
Read in the newspaper
and taught in school
Limiting our thoughts
to what they want US to think
and believe,
bringing on that feeling "You're less then"
So they can feel "More then"
And some of our Brothers and Sisters don't see it
Or even feel it

True.


In the end
We are all of the flesh
and the blood flows the same
When we're cut.
But that is to simple.
(because of the lack of education of US they are limited)
Looking forward to reading your part 2

Good points.

I think we have all heard the lines.... He doesn't count he isn't black...." but what do you mean?", he ain't black that dude is white.... what does a person have to act like to be considered a part of our culture? I have never fit in anywhere.. not with my people or with the other races.... so what i be considered. but of course i am completely african accept for some minor influences in the distant past.... but seriously... why does a person have to act a certain to be considered one of us.... I have been outcast from every race. No one accepts me into their circle... If my own community won't accept me and others.... than who will? pt 2 comming soon... my definition of being BLACK..!!!!!

Hmmm. . .why would we reject you? First, I don't think most here have hatred in their hearts anyway. Most would love any Human Being. We just hate racism and "White" supremacy.

Second, if you claim to be an African, why would we reject you???? I could give a care about you loving opera, speaking chinese, or scuba diving.

"Black" folks, despite the mythology that some would have you believe have many varied interests.

But if you are the type that believes that we are somehow inferior to other groups, think that we should not embrace our history/culture. . .well. . .do I really have to explain?

Its seems to me that black is an adjative not a noun. And its description is not a pretty one. So what it means to be black is what the definition of black is. Dismal, gloomy, wicked, absent of the light, unconcious, etc. According to Webster. Who by the way defines every word we use so I would say that associating this word with an didentity is a wrong move. Those who created this term for us knew very well what they werw doing esspecially when they named themselves the exact opposite. Words have spirits or energy based on their connotation. We need to get away from allowing others to define us. I would have to say our race is Asiatic beiing that the Garden of Eden was in the land of caanan in the city of Mecca which is in Asia. And that is where the first phisical man was formed. And he was certainly of a Dark olive tone. And being that no other shade of skin as a group or individual can or could have created us and all others come from us it was us in Asia making our race which is based on a land mass furthest traceable to a people.... Asiaitic..

Its seems to me that black is an adjative not a noun. And its description is not a pretty one. So what it means to be black is what the definition of black is. Dismal, gloomy, wicked, absent of the light, unconcious, etc. According to Webster. Who by the way defines every word we use so I would say that associating this word with an didentity is a wrong move. Those who created this term for us knew very well what they werw doing esspecially when they named themselves the exact opposite. Words have spirits or energy based on their connotation. We need to get away from allowing others to define us. I would have to say our race is Asiatic beiing that the Garden of Eden was in the land of caanan in the city of Mecca which is in Asia. And that is where the first phisical man was formed. And he was certainly of a Dark olive tone. And being that no other shade of skin as a group or individual can or could have created us and all others come from us it was us in Asia making our race which is based on a land mass furthest traceable to a people.... Asiaitic..


Interesting how you dismiss the word "Black" then the word "Africa" and then make a statment such as the following.

Quote:

"I would have to say our race is Asiatic being that the Garden of Eden was in the land of canaan in the city of Mecca which is in Asia."

Key words:
"race"
"Asiatic"
"Garden of Eden"
"Land of Canaan"
"Mecca"
"Asia"

First of all I will deal with the most obvious LIE being propagated in this one post alone.

The "Land of Canaan" did not Exist at the same time as the "Garden of Eden". There was no "Canaan" even mentioned in the Bible or Quran until after who?

"Canaan" itself only extended to the "Brook of Egypt". Even if I accept the term"Asiatic" these people extended BEYOND the Brook of Egypt into the Nile Valley and further south BEYOND "Ethiopia".

Since you further mention "Mecca" this reveals the source of the confusion you are perpetrating. Can you reference a SINGLE text written in Cush, Ethiopia, Nubia or Kemet written before 300AD that mentions "Mecca" then, what reference specifically states this is "in the land of Canaan".

I will see the response before dealing with the "Garden of Eden" since there was no location on this planet referred as "Eden" until the translators of the Septuagint made it up. This will then lead me to deal with your reference concerning "our race".