I can't help but to ask this question...I come across a lot of different incidences in the past couples of months and i wanted to know others perceptions on todays world. For example, i have an assocaiate come to me wanting me to help them with a poetry book for the youth...i guess between ages 18-23 maybe probably 21...his reasons behind this is to show our current elders that our youth do more than just get in trouble. My opinion....what do we need to prove?... I've read where they look upon our generation as a destroyer of a beautiful earth..well it wasn't all that pretty when i first got here if i wasn't mistaken. So i guess what i want to know is... What affect does this world have on you...What do you feel need to be change?... What cause and affect may have brought you to this conclusion?... Basically(How do you view todays World?)

since it is my question?.....

I view this word as hypocracy...judgmental, influential, detrimental to a childs health for many are considered drug dealers...useless...and imprisoned by the time their 5. Because their bad...children were bad before they came across on the boats.

Drugs have empowered our society...not only through the promotion of our black youth and black neighborhoods but to the back alleys of manhattan to the suburbs of your closest white neighborhood. That our government allows a certain amount of drugs to actually get through because every drug dealer they catch 50 percent of what was taken by the police will be placed back on the streets by a drug dealer for the police.

The fact that our country still has homeless families...babies, mothers, and children...and we go across country to feed the needy. That what goes on in our own society is just conversation and a political debate where what goes in other countries have to be dealt with...the way they will kiss someone else behind before they kiss their own. Funny thing is...I've seen this since i was a child... my mother use to tell me and my brother...you'll go to someone else's house and clean before you clean your own..."I caught on quick to that one" What happened to taking care of home first.

That we still have racial differences in our country, in regard to racial profiling to filing out the number of minorities that a company allows in their business.

I've realized that my country has not changed so much as to what I've read in school history books knowing that it doesn't teach many minorities their own history. I've realized that we are going to continue to fall within our own government because we are still living by the same rules but upgrading our lifestyle...we are still stuck in those use to be's instead of trying to deal with all of our nows.... that's my view of todays world....

I could go on but i'll leave at that... this is just a few of my thoughts...now i'm waiting on yours..... :D

I had some words for you but my network been acting funny and it got deleted. it was just me speaking my mind... :x:

and letting you know about me and my generation having something to prove.... We don't... we only need to prove things to ourselves and God Himself...I've seen so many youth fail and become disappointed and unhappy trying to follow someelse's dreams. Trying to do what everyone else wants them to do rather than following their owns hearts. Not having a mind of their own...which is what makes them human...what makes them and individual....I'm sure you wouldn't want your child to grow up feeling that way... I respect my elders and what they stand for..they have taught me self-determination, self-motivation, disipline, commitment and so forth...and with that I intend to teach others... Our elders taught us how to be individuals and now you :smash: our generation because at some point we are... but oh well...this is some of what i said... And your other views...i do agree on to a degree...which was stated in my next to last paragraph: I've realized that my country has not changed so much as to what I've read in school history books knowing that it doesn't teach many minorities their own history. I've realized that we are going to continue to fall within our own government because we are still living by the same rules but upgrading our lifestyle...we are still stuck in those use to be's instead of trying to deal with all of our nows.... that's my view of todays world....

oh well that is your opinion. Because actually i do get respect...and the only time I probably don't is when i'm dressed like my everyday generation dress...baggy jeans and a T-shirt(which i actually go to work in...in my line of work)...;) and even then...i still get my respect...so prove nada...nothing to prove...if you knew me or just saw me on the street...you'd know its all in the pudding sweety. Keep your beliefs alive...but it poses no influence on a woman like myself. :D Kem...i must say though...I love your responses and your theory on so many things... Wow!!! Your views.... :confused:

And as for my job status...I know a lot of the do's and the don'ts. I'm not your average 21 year old.... I've done my research...and I will always take care of mine. So me without a job...is ridiculous..because i know where i came from...i know all about sacrifices and hardships and if I am ever in the disposition...I always have my past jobs and experience at the thousands of companies that i have worked for in my 21 years to get another job...including fastfood.

Geesh...you know i hadn't intented to ramble on like dhis and within this content i still feel like i'm trying to prove something to you which is also unnecessary...i always say what you don't know won't hurt you and assumptions well...i'm sure your generation has heard the old saying about assumptions... :x:

Maybe you should pick on another 21 year old...those that don't have a clue about their life...those that lack self-confidence do to the negativity that people in your generation instill within their membranes. They might actually by into this crap.....;)

honey...things are bad...and they continue to get worse. Please tell me something I don't know. Inform me of the great depression and I'll tell you how me and my friends are greatful we still have our jobs. While they continue to fire those in your age group...do to LIFO or FIFO you pick. Tell me why they want to hire someone like you rather than me...why experience...age...when in reality...they don't have to worry about retiring us...they don't have to worry about kids interfering with their work and burdens...now don't get me wrong..the higher up the ladder you are the more debt a company feels you need have...thats called feeling secure with an employee that he/she may not leave them high and dry do to the debt they have...with no guarantee that they will secure that employees job.

I don't look for respect out of no one. I treat those with respect who treat me as such. I don't ask for anything and i don't feel like no one owes me anything. Everything i've earned...i've earned on my own.

As far as my friend... I support his motive for those who lack that respect but when i met this boy a year ago..not sure of his maturity level this he had issues of his own in his self identity through my views and conversation with him. He's doing a good deed for our generation making a lot of whats going on known... and allows your generation to acknowledge us as people and not some crazed kids running loose. Which is not the case...

Let your voice reign loud and clear...
Let it be known for all youth to hear....
But always remember that its not your opinions we fear...
Because with or without you...
We are the ones that have to survive here!!!!

In all my hardships, struggles, working two jobs and going to college full time. For those teenage mothers who still gratudated highschool and got some type of degree. To all those who are still carrying their own and never turned to a soul... To those who survived the struggled when they had no one to turn to. Kem...I'm sorry but right now...your opinion is obsolete in my success...in my generation...of those I have personally dealt with anyway. We've gotten ourselves in situations and seen some of your generation come and get us out...But i will tell you this and speak only for me...in my past and present life...I have shared my love with many of your generation...I have grown to respect them and they me...Not one have told me they aren't proud of me...Even just my conversation...those who barely know me. But when things got hard on me...I could only turn to God and me....and my fellow generation..my fellow colleages. So whether you saw or felt or believe or think or have your own opinions. I've seen 18-22 year olds pull each other through a struggle and survived heavy tides. We thank you guys for taking aways some of our burdens, like racism and slavery. But just like you we still deal with every day things. Just like you have home...i have friends my age with homes cars... Credit....travel...no kids... You guys made it easier for us to come up on success rather than yourselves...I don't know not one child in my generation that totally disrespects your generation...maybe you want to look back on your view of things and realize that this world isn't yesterdays...and well you'll never know about tomorrow.. because we may be that generation to get back what was taken from us...to bring our government to a new beginning. What you speak of on all those issues all of what you say...many that i know have experienced and will experience and in return...that will make them stronger and they will grow...because i'll will tell you one thing and that is for sure. If we made it though negativity like you have directly...I'm pretty sure we can make it through anything....

Well i don't do morning afters and the only alcoholic beverage i take in is Wine so.... I'm not sure that can be arranged. :) Yea and thats because they sign them on as contract workers....so they make more but because the market is so bad they aren't really looking for them unless they are willing to pay what they want.

As far as your generation being my boss...for me that is true..for others that really isn't the case.

And thats not true about our views on racism. Maybe you need to come and meet with me and my friends...have a talk with us. Personally I hear the men complain about it atleast once a week. But anyways...no need elaborate and while those marches were going on..we were probably taking our exams. And we do vote...but from this years election even you should know that was a waste of time. Goes back to what i say about our government once again. "Hypocracy" Now that doesn't give you much motivation for the next..but i do want to make sure he gets the hell out of office..so i'll be back in the booth right along wit you. :D

Kem..... I really do like you!!! You make me smile... :x: Anyhoo..yes Kem...for the many thats true. But not a majority. I've worked for too many people to agree with that. My boss now is the oldest one I've ever had... ;) Let me know if there is anything else you would like to discuss that may peak my interest... :toast:

I view the world as a pyramid scheme. Society tells of jumping through the next hoop when you havent even jumped through the first.(AMERICAN DREAM)

I am personally in disgust of the class factor in society and what is implied.

I think my younger brother stumbled onto something before trucking off to college. He wanted to go ahead and do what was necessary in the purchase of a small house. This is before the college loan debt trap.

It not funny any more. I saw something on the news about how college grads are defaulting on loans incrued while in college and are considering filing bankruptcy as a way out. Check this trick out. The salary on some of the entry level jobs are not even enough to pay loans on a live comfortably. Mind you this is FALL SEMESTER for freshmen to get their first taste of FREEDOM(credit/debit card) with interest.

As in third world status.

Nothing is new under the sun.

Nexis: I truly do understand. A lot of things i wasn't told about by my older generations as far as what negative benefits are on the forefront of a College Degree. And you are also right about it costing more than the average pay for a college grad to live comfortably... I also understand what you were saying about the government selling the word dreams or should i say people slaving themselves to achieve the american dream. Funny thing is...personally...I think thats going right out the door also.

Kemetstry: That wasn't very nice. What happen to support the newer generation and leading them to a better way. And then you make insiduous comments about hour generation. Many things that we went head on into many of our past generation new nothing about. Not too many where i'm from did and i'm the only one in my household or close family who went to college so who can inform me of those beautiful college years. However, I do agree with this comment: Adulthood is slavery, especially if you want conveniance and comfort right now. But the question is...why does it have to be that way? And then again...it doesn't have to be that way...Many of just make it that way.... Humans are never satisfied.... Never....

i can't say much on that...for you are so right about that one.

Sometimes I feel defeated only when I begin to define/measure LIFE(Existance) on the basis of the "AMERICAN DREAM"

I dont even like the term. So much irony.

US corporations send goods to foriegn countries to sew on a MADE IN AMERICA tag, fashionable logo and resale it on the market at an exorbiant mark up. to pay for the lease space in that snooty mall of course.

All image and no substance.

That was a very good observation. I think that American Dream is a lie and everything is a hussle. You have to give a little to get a little...you have to sacrifice and accomodate...compromise and manipulate...Corporate America is the same way. Credit Report huh?...Just another way for the government to know our personal business...our spending habits...our debt to ratio in this world. And as for Independent companies screwing the Population with their overrated fashion logos and tags...I can't knock them for making their dough and nine times out of ten i ain't paying for it unless its a sale anyway and besides if I were them I do it too. People don't care about our society and their defects...People wanna know how can i get mine... And some people result to any means necessary...which in turn means screwing somebody in the long run.... Thats just our American Policy...Its been going on since the Euorpeans came over and chilled with the Indians... :D

I'm starting to get conflicting irony from the NAACP.

The recently pulled a nationwide boycott on ADAMS MARK hotel because an organization was discriminated against in some form or another. Cant get the whole story on that event/organization.

I just heard on the news today about their reports on AFRICAN AMERICAN, ASIAN, LATINO employment in/on televison shows on major networks.

Why cant the NAACP just fund a NETWORK and quit byatchin about it. Mean while azzzzz jigglin videos and questionable lyrical content that promotes a detremental lifestyle towards AFRICAN AMERICANS is OKAY?

Gimme a fuqking break and stop the hot air blowing NAACP!

:maddd:

Funny thing about it. If the NAACP does fund an all BLACK network chances are they may be accused of discrimination.

Its crazy!

Locally in my town, there is a HINDI movie theater. (INDIAN) No subtitles.

It trips me out. All indian cast. It may be packed with INDIAN AMERICAN people depending on cast and who is starring.

It has nothing to do with HOLLYWOOD and it thrives and exists beyond the ideas of HOLLYWOOD standards.

Why is it that BLACK EXISTENCE is defined and contingent on WHITE approval?

Wait a second I know we have some old heads in here. Tell us about your movie going days. Was it in an all black segregated theater?

Tell us!:toast:

where you are coming from..still. Personally...I don't like the NAACP... ever since i couldn't go to a job fair because I wasn't 21 they are the last thing from my mind. And don't include them in my life economically befitting thier own roles...like black scholarships or so on... Now that is a good idea but Kem is right...they are non profit organization and they really don't have to do jack. But what if we as black people bought our own network...but then again... off the top in this past year...two large companies owned by black people were sold the European race...so what of that. Sounds more like we almost fighting a losing battle. Basically...their straight they made their money and now their moving on...not hating on them or upset about it or whatever...but if this can happen....whose to say it won't happen again. All depending on a persons reason behind it...

Thank you for your insight on NAACP Kem...but to tell you the truth... I really don't care...and i do know they are a cause and affect to our current desegregation... which is cool... I can't say I'm greatful or not because i have never experience segregation..but i'm sure it helped our race out a lot. As for me using false ID's once... and that because my friends were taking a close friend of ours to the strip club for her 21st Birthday...and i'm the youngest out of the group. Other than that... nope...I don't smoke ciggy and i'm not a big alcoholic fan... I figure... I don't need to prove jack to anyone using a false ID...in my eyes..i do everything and probably a little more than the average adult and feel i should be treated as such. No need for lies in my life...especially in regards to my age...for I have always been proud of who I am and the age i have established all my means of what i need at that time. ciggys and alcohol was not one of them... But a job was...And well at that time...they limited my search on employment when i knew i was qualified...so hating on them...yes. And i show no love... I don't promote negativity about them...that should always be good... but I don't have too much love for them either....

I'm at work Kem... you can't have me laughing like dhis wit my boss right beside me... :lol: And no... I don't hold grudges and no I don't forget and no I wouldn't stalk you if you didn't give me the job... As long as you treat me with respect while I'm their. :o And don't talk about my darkside... it doesn't show too much. :rolleyes: I just don't like limitations or boundaries... especially if I feel i'm capable... ;) But then this world is filled with limitations and boundaries... which i have grown to understand and except... but at the same time I feel some things are deemed unnecessary.

I'm talking about the modern day NAACP.

Protesting for more diversity on televison. What the FIZZNUCK are they complaining about? Is it FOX, UPN, WB with that major BLACK line up back to back some nights.:(

Ratings numbers game on predominately white networks or more white variety programs in tuned with the US population on BET.

In TEXAS there is TELEMUNDO, GALAVISION, UNIVISION cooking up everything for the spanish population enmasse. The mere fact that these networks exist and serve spanish speaking audience debunks the very idea of what NAACP is a about as it pertains to getting more diversity in WHITE BACK YARDS.

"Existence contingent on what ABC, CBS, NBC will or will not green light."

Heres another thing. The powers that be are quick to call any station that names itself "BLACK television" as excluding itself from the whole and are quick to drag out KINGS to reinstate dreams to be swallowed up by AMERICAN togetherness. (melting pot)

Children its time to stop asking permission from daddy.

If major corporations dont want to pay ad slots on a on a whole majority owned BLACK NETWORK not some little pitty pat black show in the corner on a few networks then its WAR. Dont buy their products.

If not, jokers will be trading in deprieciated material schit till the casket drop. Wondering why this why that and still protesting.:cuss:

These are some interesting views... And I kind of agree... We do need to hold our own...and get pass our individuality between races... we are constantly complaining about what we don't have and how the government restricts us rather than going and getting our own **** and not naming BET or some BS like that but just a normal company name... blending in... Rather than standing out.. even though you'll be promoting and benefiting the black audience... Tell me if I'm wrong now... I just want to make sure we're on the same page..

That is all I'm saying. There is room for than just one BET. Any move toward protesting/petitioning an ABC, CBS, NBC wil continue to be FUTILE. Last year I seriously thought BET was expanding into prime time with a network. I guess not.

Who will be the next Robert Johnson?

For me the clock is ticking. I'll give it about five more years. Either BLACK FOLK are gonna have to PUT UP and INITATE something or SHUT UP that protesting bull. :)

I can't wait to see what Kem has to say... :x: But i do agree... me i don't like to deal with business... but if you looking to be one dem big dogs.. you know you got my support!!! :D BET sold out... to a whiteman... so you can't even claim them anymore. We make things too obvious such as ...BET(Black Entertainment Television) ... and if we ain't making things happen we complaining about what ain't happening....

I'm totally feeling ya though... I wonder what others thoughts are on this issue?....:idea:

Dang check it out www.soulbeat.com!

Ut oh! Sometimes I tell myself....
Just because it isnt seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Info i did not know... But then even at that time you have to look at it like this... That may not be their dream and in turn they don't want to handle a big business like dhat. But i do understand what you're saying.... but then you have to look at indivudualism and how that plays a huge roll in our society these days.....

I recall my Stepfather pressing that one when i was little... ;) Agree to a degree... Tradition is important... but... if a person feels as though they can't handle the weight...why hate... you can make or chose how someone decideds to live their own life. The have that right.... and if they feel as though thats not something they want to do..then so be it... because a person..individual is only truly happy when they can be themselves...without restrictions...guidelines and traditions...

is very true... and all that starts with our past generations because if he wanted to keep his business alive and instead of spoiling his children... He should've taught them the importance of his business and how important it is to keep it running. But anyways...no need to elaborate too much on this.. Thats just my opinion... my family has never left me a business so i can't call that one. I do know that if that isn't something i want to do.... i don't think i would sell it but i would find someone to run it for me... Why keep a job you're not happy with?....

A very wise young woman!!! :D Naw but on the real... i listened... to degree. We fail to realize that even parents are human and sometimes they're motives aren't for the good of the children. And that i have seen so many times.

As for those kids who sold there fathers business... Its just that.. their business. Not that i don't get it... but we seem to judge and ridicule while trying to get everyone to live their life as we see fit rather than just let that person be that person. From your generation right down to my own generation... always expecting something... We have values and traditions that people expect others to follow by...even if they don't agree on some of them.

You can't judge someone on the lifestyle they decided to live... Thats what they're comfortable with... thats what they want. so many kids have fallen due to the detrimental expectations set out by parents, family and friends.

I repeat...this world is a crazy place...and its going to get worse. This world doesn't usually get better it gets worse... Just on what you said right there. We are continually destroying peoples minds, with our own thoughts and opinions.. some that are positive.. many that are negative...

Its just different.:x:

Thats is your opinion.. Cause i've seen a country town turn corrupt in 5 years... maybe less. People are more violent.. my generation.. more or so.. the ones younger than me.. are more violent.. unsure of certainy. Many have become followers rather than leaders... Thats makes them weak.. Thats makes them dangerous.

And Kem: As for Obey.. NOT EVEN :D But i always listen.. ;) Every ones voice is heard when directed to my attention.... :x: