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Pharaoh Jahil
04-14-2005, 03:31 PM
The Hymn to The Aten

By Akhenaten


Glorious, you rise on the horizon of heaven,


O living Aten, creator of life.


When you have risen on the Eastern horizon


You fill every land with your beauty.


You are gorgeous, great and radiant, high over every land.


Your rays embrace all the lands that you have made.


You are Re and so you reach their boundaries,


Limiting them for your beloved Son.


Though you are far away, your rays are upon the Earth.


Though you are seen, your movement is not.


When you set on the Western horizon the land is dark, like death.


Night is spent asleep as in a bedroom with a covered head,


One eye does not see the other.


If the possessions under their heads were stolen,


No one would notice it.


Every lion comes out from it's den, and every serpent bites.


Darkness descends and the Earth is hushed,


Because their maker rests on the horizon.


The Earth is illuminated when you rise on the horizon


And shine as the Aten in the daytime.


You banish the darkness when you cast your rays.


The Two Lands celebrate, lively and aroused now that you


have awakened them ; with bodies cleansed and clothed


they raise their arms to adore your rising.


Now the whole land begins to work.


All the cattle graze on the fodder, trees and plants grow.


Birds fly up from their nests, their wings stretched in praise of your spirit.


All the flocks gambol on their feet and everything that flies


and perches lives because you have arisen for them.


Ships sail to the North and South,while roads open at your rising.


The fish in the river leap before you, for your rays are in the middle of the sea.


You make the seed grow in women and create people from sperm.


You feed the Son who lies in his Mother's womb


and comfort him to stop his tears.


You are the nurse within the womb,who gives breath to all that is made.


On the day he is born you open his mouth to supply his needs.


When the chick in the egg chirps within his shell you give him breath to live,


And when his time is ready to break out from the shell


he comes to proclaim his birth, walking on his legs.


How many are the things you do, although hidden from view,


O unique God, without compare.


You created the world as you desired,


Alone - all people, all cattle, all flocks, everything which walks with it's feet on the Earth and everything that flies with it's wings in the air.


The Northern lands of Asia, the Southern lands of Africa


and the land of Egypt - you have set every person in their place


and you have supplied their needs.


Everyone has his food and his allotted lifetime.


Tongues differ in their speech, and also characters,


For you have differentiated mankind.


You created the Nile in the Netherworld.


You bring him forth at your will to feed the people,


Since you made them for yourself, Lord of all, who toils for them,


Lord of all lands, the Aten who shines in the daytime, great in dignity.


You make all distant lands live, for you have made a heavenly Nile


come down for them, to make waves on the mountains like the sea,


to irrigate the fields of their towns.


O Lord of eternity, how excellent are your designs - a Nile from heaven


for people of Foreign lands, and all the creatures which walk upon their feet and a Nile for Egypt coming from the Netherworld.


Your rays suckle every field; when you shine they live and grow for you.


You made the seasons to foster all that is made: Winter to cool them


And Summer that they may feel you.


You made a distant sky in which you might shine


and to see everything you have made.


You are alone, shining as the Living Aten,


Risen, dazzling, far and yet near


you have millions of manifestations of yourself.


Towns, villages, fields, roads and waterways -


every eye sees you upon them, for you are the Aten of the daytime...


You are my beloved.


There is none other that knows you except for your Son,


Neferkheperure Waenre, whom you have made wise


in your plans and your might.


The creatures of the Earth exist in your hand as you have made them;


when you rise they live, when you set they die.


You yourself are the duration of life, it is by you that men live.


Eyes may behold your beauty until you set,


but when you set in the West all work ceases.


When you rise...


You raise them up for the Son who came forth from your body,


the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, living in Truth,


the Lord of the Two Lands Neferkheperure Waenre, Son of Re,


living in Truth, Lord of glorious appearings, Akhenaten the long-lived.


And as for the King's Great Wife whom he loves,


the mistress of the two lands, Neferneferuaten-Nefertiti,


may she live and flourish for ever and ever.

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I BELIEVE THAT AKHENATEN, THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN PHAROAH, WAS A "MUSLIM". OF COURSE, THE PEOPLE DID NOT SPEAK ARABIC, SO THE RELIGION WAS NOT CALLED "ISLAM" BUT, "OBEYING THE WILL OF GOD" HAS BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINNING.

ONE DOES NOT NEED TO FOLLOW THE CULTURE OF THE ARABS TO BE A "MUSLIM". "ISLAM" DID NOT BEGIN 1600 YEARS AGO!!!


Peace...

SAMURAI36
04-14-2005, 03:36 PM
PEACE JAHIL:

In your spare time, please check out a post I made on my own website, regarding the theology of KHUEN-ATEN (the correct name for ANKHEN-ATEN):

http://cradle2dagrave.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=ASAMANTHINKETH&action=display&num=1110497039

Let me know your thoughts.

HOTEPU

Pharaoh Jahil
04-14-2005, 10:42 PM
Peace to the gods & earths


All I can say is "INTERESTING". That's some deep ish regarding Aten.... and thank you very much for showing me to that website..



Peace..

Ralfa'il
04-15-2005, 12:02 AM
Pharoah

Salaams..

Thanx for providing more proof that our fathers worshipped ONE GOD in their heights of glory.



Koran 16:36-

"For We assuredly sent amongst every People a messenger, with the Command, "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably established. So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied the Truth."

For those who doubt, follow Allah's advice and LOOK AROUND at those who rejected truth and turned to PAGANISM and IDOLATRY.....if you can still find them.

info-moetry
04-15-2005, 12:08 AM
Pharoah

Salaams..

Thanx for providing more proof that our fathers worshipped ONE GOD in their heights of glory.



Koran 16:36-

"For We assuredly sent amongst every People a messenger, with the Command, "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably established. So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied the Truth."

For those who doubt, follow Allah's advice and LOOK AROUND at those who rejected truth and turned to PAGANISM and IDOLATRY.....if you can still find them.

THe NAME Allah was born from an Idol, so all you have to do is look in the mirror brotha..............

"from the cradle to the grave"

Ralfa'il
04-15-2005, 12:19 AM
Infomoetry:

THe NAME Allah was born from an Idol, so all you have to do is look in the mirror brotha..............

Do you have anger or malice in you heart black man?

If not, why nit pick and my choice of words for the ONE Creator?

You said that you are a student of Elijah Muhammad and Fard Muhammad and both of them used the name Allah for the One true God.

Why do you have a problem with me doing it?



Let us not corrupt brutha PJ's valuable thread with "foolish" semantics and bickering.

AUM
04-15-2005, 12:51 AM
Let us not corrupt brutha PJ's valuable thread with "foolish" semantics and bickering.


Laughing big time here. You don't wanna corrupt King Jahil's, who is your fellow Muslim, thread...but you do bring your foolish semantics and bickering to mostly everyone else's threads who don't share your (questionable) Islamic beliefs.

By the way I'm curious...Do you know PJ outside of Destee.com?

:grin:

SAMURAI36
04-15-2005, 10:03 AM
Laughing big time here. You don't wanna corrupt King Jahil's, who is your fellow Muslim, thread...but you do bring your foolish semantics and bickering to mostly everyone else's threads who don't share your (questionable) Islamic beliefs.

:grin:

True indeed, not to mention the fact that I don't even think RALF read my statements in the link I posted to my site.

KHUEN-ATEN didn't worship anything. His intercultural God "ATEN" was the result of a Hittite marriage arrangement to his beloved White woman, TADUKHIPA (NEFERTITTI).

This is why we should seek to study the KNOWLEDGE and HISTORY of these people, and not focus on what we BELIEVE about them.

KHUEN-ATEN was just as much of an idolator and a "PAGAN" as RALF claims of every body else.

PEACE

Ralfa'il
04-15-2005, 04:22 PM
Sam

Peace son of man....


KHUEN-ATEN didn't worship anything. His intercultural God "ATEN" was the result of a Hittite marriage arrangement to his beloved White woman, TADUKHIPA (NEFERTITTI).


Oh Nefertiti was a white woman?

Thanx for dropping this world premiere of knowledge on me.


Judging by this original sculpture of her, white people must have been a whole lot darker back in her day:
http://www.akhet.co.uk/nms/nefbust.jpg


I guess Alicia Keyes, Beyonce and any other light skinned sistaz embraced by the black community are "beloved white women" as well.




Also thanx for pointing out that she was a Hittite when no one else in history has ever made such claim.
You've really opened my eyes!!


"Little is known about the origins of Nefertiti but it seems unlikely that she was of royal blood."

http://www.akhet.co.uk/nefertit.htm


"Nefertiti's origins are confusing. It has been suggested to me that Tiy was also her mother. Another suggestion is that Nefertiti was Akhenaten's cousin. Her wet nurse was the wife of the vizier Ay, who could have been Tiy's brother"

http://www.crystalinks.com/nefertiti.html

SAMURAI36
04-15-2005, 04:41 PM
It's interesting how you remain oblivious to other prominent areas of study, especially when you find them in conflict with your BELIEFS.

Oh Nefertiti was a white woman?

Thanx for dropping this world premiere of knowledge on me.

As usual, your sarcasm was expected, yet it does nothing to validate your notions of a subject you've proven to have little knowledge of.

Judging by this original sculpture of her, white people must have been a whole lot darker back in her day:
http://www.akhet.co.uk/nms/nefbust.jpg

This just proves your ignorance of archeology, amongst other things.

That sculpture is not "original" in the least. In fact, it's a post modern replica of NEFERTITI, made in the past century.

With all your "GOOGLING", you would at least have the common sense to READ the websites you link here thoroughly.

I guess Alicia Keyes, Beyonce and any other light skinned sistaz embraced by the black community are "beloved white women" as well.

Allow me to clarify: I'm not saying that TADUKHIPA was "lilly white", but as a EURASIAN, she was certainly not of Afro-Asiatic stock.

Furthermore, have you stopped to ask yourself, why TADUKHIPA was lightskinned, when every SHEQHETI preceeding her was jet black? Where would this lightskinned strain have come from?

Also thanx for pointing out that she was a Hittite when no one else in history has ever made such claim.
You've really opened my eyes!!

Your ignorance about various subjects is borderlining the realm of ridiculous.

The only reason you THINK that "no one else in history has ever made such claim", is because you are not at all well-versed or read on all/any things Kemetic.

I'd request that you list your bibliophile on Kemetic history, culture, theology, etc.

I'm willing to bet that you haven't read at least ONE book from cover to cover on the subject.

I've read HUNDREDS.

In the meantime, if you even bothered to read the info I posted on my website, then you would see that the info I posted is not mine, but rather a transcribed exerpt from one of the books that I'd read and researched.

Go back and read the information man. And stop GOOGLING me to death.

Little is known about the origins of Nefertiti but it seems unlikely that she was of royal blood."

http://www.akhet.co.uk/nefertit.htm

Not that the info on that site is totally credible, but that statement is correct. If you'd bothered to read the info from my website, you'd know that TADUKHIPA was indeed of royal linneage......Just not of AFRICAN or KEMETIC royal linneage.

"Nefertiti's origins are confusing. It has been suggested to me that Tiy was also her mother. Another suggestion is that Nefertiti was Akhenaten's cousin. Her wet nurse was the wife of the vizier Ay, who could have been Tiy's brother"

http://www.crystalinks.com/nefertiti.html

Conjecture and surmising.........No wonder you like these GOOGLE sites so much.

The very initial statement says it all. There are archeologists and so-called Egyptologists who have established this theory for the past decade.

There was even a piece on this subject not too long ago on one of the Learning Channels.....I'm assuming you watch more TV than BET and UPN, yes?

Do the knowledge, my friend, and stop talking us to death about "Snake Cults" and what-not, and actually learn about this culture.

HOTEPU

Ralfa'il
04-16-2005, 06:10 PM
So was Nefertiti a white woman...or only part white?

SAMURAI36
04-18-2005, 08:46 AM
So was Nefertiti a white woman...or only part white?

PEACE RALF:

It depends on how you view The Eurasian peoples........ What do you see the Pale Arabs as being?

The Hittite strain is/was always difficult to identify; not "white" in the true Western sense, but definitely a long ways from being African or even Afro-Asiatic.

Either way, TADUKHIPA was definitely not of African or Kemetic origin by birth.

PEACE

Ralfa'il
04-18-2005, 03:09 PM
Sam

Peace blood...


It depends on how you view The Eurasian peoples........ What do you see the Pale Arabs as being?

The Hittite strain is/was always difficult to identify; not "white" in the true Western sense, but definitely a long ways from being African or even Afro-Asiatic.

Either way, TADUKHIPA was definitely not of African or Kemetic origin by birth.


First of all, when I think of a "pale Arab"...it's like thinking of a "black Chinese"....

The term is technically an impossibility because if his color is "pale" then he's not actually an Arab but a white/pale person who practices Arab culture.

True Arabs are brown not white and definately not pale in that hot Arabian sun.


Another point is, no picture I've ever seen of her be it a sculpture or painting has ever shown her as "pale" but always light to medium brown...the same as most black women in America.

So if we still condider most of our sistaz in America as black regardless of the admixture of white ancestry...why not sista Neffy?


Again, I have to point back at the articles I provided that say few if anyone in our modern times actually knows the origins of Nefertiti.

If we can't specifically nail down her origins then how can we say she's definately not African or Kemetic in origin?

SAMURAI36
04-18-2005, 03:43 PM
Sam

Peace blood...


First of all, when I think of a "pale Arab"...it's like thinking of a "black Chinese"....

The term is technically an impossibility because if his color is "pale" then he's not actually an Arab but a white/pale person who practices Arab culture.

True Arabs are brown not white and definately not pale in that hot Arabian sun.

I agree with this totally. However:

If we can't specifically nail down her origins then how can we say she's definately not African or Kemetic in origin?

This is why I asked how you see the pale Arabs, in order to draw a parallel.

The reality is, that we in fact CAN specify her origins; they are HITTITE.

What I stated was that the HITTITE strain is difficult to draw a pathology from, because of the constant EURASIAN mixing that formed this society as a result.

This is the same thing for the Pale Arabs; a mixing of Eurasian and Mediterranean Caucasians (Greeks, Macedonians, Hittites, etc) formed them; as you stated they are only "Arab" in linguistic and cultural name only.

Same with TADUKHIPA.


Another point is, no picture I've ever seen of her be it a sculpture or painting has ever shown her as "pale" but always light to medium brown...the same as most black women in America.

Allow me then to clarify; Not all Hittites were lilly-pale. Just as not all pale Arabs are either.

The different between the now defunct peoples from HATTI (the HITTITE kingdom) and our light skinned sisters, is that the latter have an obvious African strain, while the former do not.


So if we still condider most of our sistaz in America as black regardless of the admixture of white ancestry...why not sista Neffy?

Because, as stated above, TADUKHIPA was not born of African/Kemetian ancestry. She was a foreigner in every sense of the term.

There was a running record of every princess and dignitary coming from Hatti during that time, and Tadukhipa was indeed one of them.

Also, as previously stated, her remained are nowhere to be found in the Valley of Queens (same as those of other foreign rulers to seize the throne).

She was sent back to Hatti, with the remains of all of her accompanying dignitaries.

Again, I have to point back at the articles I provided that say few if anyone in our modern times actually knows the origins of Nefertiti.

Nevertheless, this is still very inaccurate. As I'd previously stated, this info has been broadcasted on various history shows, and various so-called Egyptologists are aware of this.

Aside from the book I quoted on my website, there are other writings about this very subject.

Please remember, just because you are not familiar with something, does not by discount its exsistence by default.

PEACE

Ralfa'il
04-18-2005, 03:56 PM
Sam


This is why I asked how you see the pale Arabs, in order to draw a parallel.

The reality is, that we in fact CAN specify her origins; they are HITTITE.


What I stated was that the HITTITE strain is difficult to draw a pathology from, because of the constant EURASIAN mixing that formed this society as a result.

This is the same thing for the Pale Arabs; a mixing of Eurasian and Mediterranean Caucasians (Greeks, Macedonians, Hittites, etc) formed them; as you stated they are only "Arab" in linguistic and cultural name only.

Same with TADUKHIPA.

Oh, so you're saying that she was Kemetic only culurally and linquisically but not racially...I see what you're saying.

I'd agree that the Hittites themselves probably had no obvious African ancestry (but since they are no longer here to see..we don't know); but again, where did you get the information on her being a full blooded Hittite?

SAMURAI36
04-18-2005, 04:04 PM
Sam

Oh, so you're saying that she was Kemetic only culurally and linquisically but not racially...I see what you're saying.

Precisely.


I'd agree that the Hittites themselves probably had no obvious African ancestry (but since they are no longer here to see..we don't know); but again, where did you get the information on her being a full blooded Hittite?


Ra Un Nefer Amen discusses it rather in-depth in his book AFROCENTRIC GUIDE TO A SPIRITUAL UNION (the book I quoted from) where he discusses her origins, as well as KHUEN-ATEN's sham of a rulership, his so-called "theology", etc.

However, there are other books, many of which I used to own (prior to have them all destroyed in the fire :( ), so I'll have to dig up a decent bibliography for you very soon.

HOTEPU

Ralfa'il
04-18-2005, 04:14 PM
Sam

Alright, I'm gonna let you have this one because I would be foolish of me to continue debating something I know little about.

You got it bro...

SAMURAI36
04-18-2005, 05:25 PM
PEACE RALF:

We are all learning fam.......I may know more about somethings than you, but I'm sure there are a great many things that you may know more about than I do.

I'm here to learn, just as you are. ;)

PEACE

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