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Pharaoh Jahil
04-10-2005, 04:48 AM
Has anyone ever done it and if so for how long and why?

I'm actually trying it.

Reason, with the intention of finding that woman I can connect with on a mental-spiritual level (soul mate). I know this sounds corny but I know many sisters and brothers who have become celibate with the same intentions and ended up being successful on their non-sexual journey.

I think it would be an interesting experience.


Peace...

jamesfrmphilly
04-10-2005, 09:58 AM
if celibacy is a way to find a mate, it's not celibacy.

PoeticManifesta
04-10-2005, 10:06 AM
Ive done it for 8 months, cold turkey. After being in a relationship and having sex 3.5 times a'day. The first month was hell, my partner now was celibate for 5months, before we met. But, overall.. it forced us to establish a relationship based on mutual respect, appretaition and principles rather than being swooned over fantastic lovemaking. And filliing in the gaps later.
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MzBlkAngel
04-10-2005, 10:29 AM
Well, I dont think it is corny at all...I understand, I have been and still is and going on 3 years.. I want the deep connection of mentally and spiritually and if my soul-mate is out there my King will find me as I find him.

Peace
Angel

panafrica
04-10-2005, 10:53 AM
Ive done it for 8 months, cold turkey. After being in a relationship and having sex 3.5 times a'day. The first month was hell, my partner now was celibate for 5months, before we met. But, overall.. it forced us to establish a relationship based on mutual respect, appretaition and principles rather than being swooned over fantastic lovemaking. And filliing in the gaps later.

Just out of curiosity, how do you have sex 3.5 times a day? What constituted as the half? For that matter, is there another way to quite sex besides cold turkey?

jamesfrmphilly
04-10-2005, 12:42 PM
Just out of curiosity, how do you have sex 3.5 times a day? What constituted as the half? For that matter, is there another way to quite sex besides cold turkey?
ask Bill Clinton about that .05

Ralfa'il
04-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Poetic

Ive done it for 8 months, cold turkey. After being in a relationship and having sex 3.5 times a'day. The first month was hell, my partner now was celibate for 5months, before we met. But, overall.. it forced us to establish a relationship based on mutual respect, appretaition and principles rather than being swooned over fantastic lovemaking. And filliing in the gaps later.


3-5 times a day!!!!

Hell, you NEEDED a break.





PJ

Except for the rules of fasting during Ramadan, I personally don't see the importance of celibacy.

Especially for men.

God told man to be fruitful and multiply, so celibacy is basically a Christian concept.

jamesfrmphilly
04-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Just out of curiosity, how do you have sex 3.5 times a day? What constituted as the half?
ask Bill Clinton about that .5

is there another way to quit sex besides cold turkey?
there's the hot turkey with mashed potatoes and gravy.
i thought every body knew that.

AHMOSE
04-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Three months and going strong for me. God has sent me another wife cause that last one was a dud lol all that flash and no pop. My future wifes name is Afiya Orara. Seriously its great to find someone you connect with spirtually as well as mentally let the sex fall into last place and celibacy does that for you.

In the words of Madea "Cooking, cleaning. Sex was it good? Nope! Major deduction" :laugh:

Nisa
04-10-2005, 10:25 PM
I'm celibate by circumstance.

panafrica
04-10-2005, 10:29 PM
I'm celibate by circumstance.

The few times I was celibate, it was also by circumstance!

Nisa
04-10-2005, 10:33 PM
The few times I was celibate, it was also by circumstance!


LOL...well lets get kinky...by circumstance :lol:

panafrica
04-10-2005, 10:35 PM
LOL...well lets get kinky...by circumstance :lol:

I once saw an episode of The Simpsons, which summed up this situation perfectly. Some people choose a life of celibacy...others have celibacy thrust upon them (or should I say they are celibate because no one is thrusting upon them)!

Nisa
04-10-2005, 10:37 PM
I once saw an episode of The Simpsons, which summed up this situation perfectly. Some people choose a life of celibacy...others have celibacy thrust upon them (or should I say they are celibate because no one is thrusting upon them)!


LOL...well i am the latter..no one is thrusting upon me lolololol :lol:

panafrica
04-10-2005, 10:45 PM
LOL...well i am the latter..no one is thrusting upon me lolololol :lol:

One day Nisa....one day....

Nisa
04-10-2005, 10:51 PM
One day Nisa....one day....


LOL...Maybe if I go Purchase a dildo *walks into sex toy shop..in all black with sunglasses*

Pharaoh Jahil
04-11-2005, 12:57 AM
Except for the rules of fasting during Ramadan, I personally don't see the importance of celibacy.

Especially for men.

God told man to be fruitful and multiply, so celibacy is basically a Christian concept.[/B]



I know brother but this is only until I find my soul mate and technically we (Muslims) are suppose to marry then be fruitful and multiply.


Peace....

Ralfa'il
04-14-2005, 12:53 AM
Nisa

Perhaps your problem is your location.

Michigan...especially the Detroit area...is a very cold and depressing place both literally and figuratively.

Ain't nobody trying to get to know anybody there and there is little love.

Too materialistic.

Infact, the Midwest period is too conservative, isolatory, and um....what's the right word..."fickle" as far as developing new relationships from my experiences.

It's hard to really mature there.

When I went to Cali and Georgia I was meeting new people everyday and really grew as a person.

Radical Faith
04-14-2005, 03:20 AM
I have had stretches of celibacy. The longest stretch was 10 months. We all have had stretches. Even those who have pre-marital sex don't have sex every day or every month for that matter. When people are in between relationships, just taken a break, if there is a medical issue or sometimes people just want to keep a clear head. Like I said lack of sex has never killed anybody....


Peace.....

Nisa
04-14-2005, 03:29 AM
Nisa

Perhaps your problem is your location.

Michigan...especially the Detroit area...is a very cold and depressing place both literally and figuratively.

Ain't nobody trying to get to know anybody there and there is little love.

Too materialistic.

Infact, the Midwest period is too conservative, isolatory, and um....what's the right word..."fickle" as far as developing new relationships from my experiences.

It's hard to really mature there.

When I went to Cali and Georgia I was meeting new people everyday and really grew as a person.

:lol: it has nothing to do with my location..it has to do with who i will let into my womb..that person will be husband..and he doesnt live here in michigan..so i have to wait..

panafrica
04-14-2005, 06:21 AM
Nisa

Perhaps your problem is your location.

Michigan...especially the Detroit area...is a very cold and depressing place both literally and figuratively.

Ain't nobody trying to get to know anybody there and there is little love.

Too materialistic.

Infact, the Midwest period is too conservative, isolatory, and um....what's the right word..."fickle" as far as developing new relationships from my experiences.

It's hard to really mature there.

When I went to Cali and Georgia I was meeting new people everyday and really grew as a person.

Good advice brother Ralfa'il, I've always said a change in location can work wonders (in both love & employment prospects).

karmashines
04-14-2005, 08:36 AM
My husband is in the military, so there's been periods of time I've been celibate by circumstance. :(

panafrica
04-14-2005, 09:32 AM
My husband is in the military, so there's been periods of time I've been celibate by circumstance. :(

That isn't being celibate though Karmashines, that is being a faithful wife (which is an admirable behavior in its own right).

jamesfrmphilly
04-14-2005, 10:58 AM
if you are sitting around waiting for mr right or ms right, you are not celibate.

CarrieMonet
04-14-2005, 01:29 PM
I usually have bouts of celibacy due to circumstances. Sex can be downright boring if you're not with someone you are truly interested in or that you find special. So right now it's been about 6 months, but I am not looking for a husband or Mr. Right, I'm just waiting for my life to slow down a little bit...so I have time for someone else.

jamesfrmphilly
04-14-2005, 03:24 PM
the time spent between sexual episodes does not count as celibacy in my book.
celibacy is a lot deeper than that.

CarrieMonet
04-14-2005, 03:30 PM
I hear you James, I don't count it as celibacy either... considering the formal definition pertains to marriage or abstaining from sex.


So...I go without sex at times - not usually intentionally.

Ralfa'il
04-16-2005, 11:22 AM
James and Carrie

Celibacy has to be voluntary.....

What yall are saying reminds me of them unattractive dudes who couldn't get anywhere with the opposite sex so they decided to dedicate their lives to God and become ministers.

:lol: But once they became ministers and started getting so much attention from women they became whores and nailed everything that wasn't nailed down.

PoeticManifesta
04-17-2005, 12:19 PM
Poetic

Ive done it for 8 months, cold turkey. After being in a relationship and having sex 3.5 times a'day. The first month was hell, my partner now was celibate for 5months, before we met. But, overall.. it forced us to establish a relationship based on mutual respect, appretaition and principles rather than being swooned over fantastic lovemaking. And filliing in the gaps later.


3-5 times a day!!!!

Hell, you NEEDED a break.





PJ

Except for the rules of fasting during Ramadan, I personally don't see the importance of celibacy.

Especially for men.

God told man to be fruitful and multiply, so celibacy is basically a Christian concept.
LOl.. well those are the times that you start at 11pm, and end at 3am.. (.5)
james.. lol.. you so silly , those incidents arent included..... :laugh:

CarrieMonet
04-20-2005, 02:45 PM
James and Carrie

Celibacy has to be voluntary.....

What yall are saying reminds me of them unattractive dudes who couldn't get anywhere with the opposite sex so they decided to dedicate their lives to God and become ministers.

:lol: But once they became ministers and started getting so much attention from women they became whores and nailed everything that wasn't nailed down.

Actually, all I am saying is that the formal definition for celibacy says:

"ONE WHO REMAINS UNMARRIED ESP. BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS VOWS. ONE WHO IS SEXUALLY ABSTINANT."

I was only speaking for myself since that was how the question was brought to the forum...

In that regard I only have sex when I find someone interesting or if I am in a relationship....considering I am by no means looking to get married, I won't be holding out until things are super serious with someone. I get attention all the time, I just don't act on it.

Ralfa'il
04-21-2005, 11:43 PM
Carrie

I think you misunderstood my post.

I wasn't suggesting that you were practicing celibacy involuntarily....

I was commenting on how you and James didn't buy the idea that simply not having sex counted as celibacy.

Nisa
04-22-2005, 12:28 AM
The benefits of celibacy for women..this an excerpt from Queen Afua's sacred woman book...During this time, if you are able, celebrate yourself by being celibate. This is the time that you are clearing the way for a womb restoration, a womb celebration and a womb renewal. During this time we connect with our womb...and it speaks to us. The womb is healing...

river
04-22-2005, 11:34 AM
The benefits of celibacy for women..this an excerpt from Queen Afua's sacred woman book...During this time, if you are able, celebrate yourself by being celibate. This is the time that you are clearing the way for a womb restoration, a womb celebration and a womb renewal. During this time we connect with our womb...and it speaks to us. The womb is healing...
This is different from wishing and hoping when we count the weeks and months since we "had some." And also different from committing one's whole life to an unnatural state of perpetual abstinance.

This would be a good way for me to look at things. Sometimes I am like the little boy whose mama asked him "Johnny are you trying to steal those cookies?" He said "No, ma I'm trying not to."

Self-respect alone has kept me from allowing many a man into my bed. My body wants to do what it wants to do. But my mind and my heart insist that it be done with someone who cares about me.

Nisa
04-22-2005, 02:35 PM
This is different from wishing and hoping when we count the weeks and months since we "had some." And also different from committing one's whole life to an unnatural state of perpetual abstinance.

This would be a good way for me to look at things. Sometimes I am like the little boy whose mama asked him "Johnny are you trying to steal those cookies?" He said "No, ma I'm trying not to."

Self-respect alone has kept me from allowing many a man into my bed. My body wants to do what it wants to do. But my mind and my heart insist that it be done with someone who cares about me.


Right sister, but I was just trying to attach a positive stigma to celibacy..

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