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How many of you have told your offspring not to bring a white man/woman home..had that talk with them.I just had to ask this because of the many interracial couples I see..I mean how could you love and reproduce with the oppressor..
KWABENA 04-08-2005, 03:18 PM DELETED BY AUTHOR
karmashines 04-08-2005, 04:40 PM When someone is dating/marrying interracially they're not seeing that person as an 'oppressor'. Whites are still human individuals, despite how ******-up and racist their general culture can be.
Going back to the question... I myself would not have that type of talk with my son, because I'm not against IR dating. How could I be when he resulted from his parents Black/Asian union?
However, I am against those that date/marry other races because they think that race is inherently better, and/or they have no racial self-esteem. This I would address in some form or fashion. I would not, however, say, don't bring a white girl in my house. My foremost concern is that my son finds a GOOD WOMAN. I would prefer that she was at least of color, because she would be more understanding of him... especially if the race was black or Asian, or a biracial mixed with black. But if he finds someone white, as long as he isn't exhibiting feelings of self-hate, I would accept it.
When someone is dating/marrying interracially they're not seeing that person as an 'oppressor'. Whites are still human individuals, despite how ******-up and racist their general culture can be.
Going back to the question... I myself would not have that type of talk with my son, because I'm not against IR dating. How could I be when he resulted from his parents Black/Asian union?
However, I am against those that date/marry other races because they think that race is inherently better, and/or they have no racial self-esteem. This I would address in some form or fashion. I would not, however, say, don't bring a white girl in my house. My foremost concern is that my son finds a GOOD WOMAN. I would prefer that she was at least of color, because she would be more understanding of him... especially if the race was black or Asian, or a biracial mixed with black. But if he finds someone white, as long as he isn't exhibiting feelings of self-hate, I would accept it.
Ok sister..I understand your views :)
karmashines 04-08-2005, 05:01 PM Ok sister..I understand your views :)
Cool. :coffee:
triniti424 04-08-2005, 05:03 PM There is a thread much like this one in the BLAK PARENTING FORUM that was started not too far back...
ADVISING AGAINST WHITE WOMEN? (http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=285564#post285564)
In there I voiced my own 2 cents (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=285564&postcount=50) regarding this topic...
and though I dont have children
I already know where I stand...and I voiced it HERE (http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=285564&postcount=50)
:read:
kente417mojo 04-08-2005, 05:06 PM I tend to agree with Karma. There is no good way of telling a child to look pass a particular race. I will tell my kids what's up with the world as a whole and hope they make the right decisions based on their intellegence. I don't want my kids to live through me. I want them to see things the way they see them, not the way I tell them to see them. I would hope they don't bring a white person home, just from my personal views of white people as a whole, but I am not against interracial dating. I have no problem with hispanic, asian or any other types of people other than white people. As long as they are dating that person for the right reasons, then we're cool. Also, as long as I never hear anything negative out of that person's mouth regarding black people I will keep it to myself. If the person is genuine, how can you have a problem with it?
I tend to agree with Karma. There is no good way of telling a child to look pass a particular race. I will tell my kids what's up with the world as a whole and hope they make the right decisions based on their intellegence. I don't want my kids to live through me. I want them to see things the way they see them, not the way I tell them to see them. I would hope they don't bring a white person home, just from my personal views of white people as a whole, but I am not against interracial dating. I have no problem with hispanic, asian or any other types of people other than white people. As long as they are dating that person for the right reasons, then we're cool. Also, as long as I never hear anything negative out of that person's mouth regarding black people I will keep it to myself. If the person is genuine, how can you have a problem with it?
That is utterly ridiculous..either you dont want them to bring a white person home or you don't you cant be inbetween..tsk..imma hush now..cuz imma get out of hand.
AHMOSE 04-08-2005, 05:54 PM Thanks for sharing this topic.
You cant be pro black and accept black/white marriages..thats ridiculous..pick what you want to be ..and stick with your guns. THATS MY BIG FAT OPINION.
Relli/Can 04-08-2005, 06:13 PM I hope to have a son, or two one day. I have two daughters now. If and when I have a son, I know I'm going to advise against him dating white women. I feel that too many of our black men today are coming up with poor excuses as to why they choose white women over blacks. A lot of these men are cheaters and abusers and wouldn't be good for any woman no matter what her race. If the white woman would've just listened to her racist mama and daddy she wouldn't be living in the projects, her eyes dotted, with biracial children with nappy heads becuase she doesn't know how to comb their hair while her man is out cheating with more white women or strangely enough, cheating with black women. Sorry-That's just a STEREOTYPE! In all seriousness, I believe we should teach their sons to love black women. The majority of biracial males choose white women as partners. This is logical because his mother is white. Well, his offspring with a white woman is likely to look more white than black. They may not look as if they come from a black family at all. If my son had a son by a white woman, and this grandson had a son by a white woman and so forth, my future family would look white and as America is today they may not want to admit to anyone who doesn't know that they have black ancestors. I think this is one way we're depleting our own race.
kente417mojo 04-08-2005, 06:28 PM You cant be pro black and accept black/white marriages..thats ridiculous..pick what you want to be ..and stick with your guns. THATS MY BIG FAT OPINION.
I hope you don't mean me when you say this, because I never claim the label "pro-black".
What is so rediculous about what I posted Nisa? I basically said that I'm not going to brainwash my kids according to my opinions on white people. What would you do? Beat it into a child's head that ALL white people are bad just because you don't particularly like them? I can tell a child all the injustices white people have done and be 100% truthful about it, but I can't tell a child that ALL white people are bad and that they all hate your guts. That would be "utterly rediculous". I stated my point and I didn't ride the fence on it. All you have to do is read what I wrote one more time since you obviously didn't the first time. I said "I" don't really want my child bringing home a white person, but I have no problem with interracial relationships when it comes to asians, hispanics or other races other than white. Now, if my child decided to bring a white person and present them as a boyfriend, girlfriend fiance' or whatever, I will keep my mouth shut as long as they are polite and respectful of me and my child. If they are bringing someone home, we've (my child and I) obviously already talked about the world and the people in it, so they are making up their own mind. I'm not going to forbid my child from dating a white person, and push them away from me to the point where they resent me in the future. Now, what so utterly rediculous again?
I hope you don't mean me when you say this, because I never claim the label "pro-black".
What is so rediculous about what I posted Nisa? I basically said that I'm not going to brainwash my kids according to my opinions on white people. What would you do? Beat it into a child's head that ALL white people are bad just because you don't particularly like them? I can tell a child all the injustices white people have done and be 100% truthful about it, but I can't tell a child that ALL white people are bad and that they all hate your guts. That would be "utterly rediculous". I stated my point and I didn't ride the fence on it. All you have to do is read what I wrote one more time since you obviously didn't the first time. I said "I" don't really want my child bringing home a white person, but I have no problem with interracial relationships when it comes to asians, hispanics or other races other than white. Now, if my child decided to bring a white person and present them as a boyfriend, girlfriend fiance' or whatever, I will keep my mouth shut as long as they are polite and respectful of me and my child. If they are bringing someone home, we've (my child and I) obviously already talked about the world and the people in it, so they are making up their own mind. I'm not going to forbid my child from dating a white person, and push them away from me to the point where they resent me in the future. Now, what so utterly rediculous again?
Oh boy..everything you have said is utterly rediculous..next time whitey does something..dont complain about it either.. I know our ancestors..are rolling over in their graves.
yaphet al-wynn 04-09-2005, 03:40 PM Karmashines, we did have that talk in the other thread on the same subject. Black/Asian.In my opinion---no prob with that. Just got too much bad karma in the past and now that Black people had with with white people. As well as Asian. Specifically,I may be asking in a politically incorrect way-which ethnicity?
If Japanese, look what happened in Japan, once the West was in after seriously rebuffing the West for decades. China, look at the history when white folks was in-No dogs or Chinamen allowed in the cities in their own country. Plus the opium dens and tubercolosis outbreaks-similar to crack and AIDS now.The Boxer Rebellion. The Phillippines, many wars to colonize and subjagate AFTER the Spaniards. The so-called Southeast Asia-Vietnam-no need to elaborate. Laos, Thailand,Cambodia and most countries arounde Vietnam-their problems were piggybacked off the war.
The Koreas after throwing off centuries of Japanese-dominance the Korean conflict.Hope that I covered most.
kente417mojo 04-11-2005, 02:13 PM Oh boy..everything you have said is utterly rediculous..next time whitey does something..dont complain about it either.. I know our ancestors..are rolling over in their graves.
Wow, that was original. What's utterly rediculous is the fact that some people think that they're children are actually going to walk the same footsteps as you did. We can inform our children about white people and what they've done, but if your child has one ounce of brain power, they will form their own opinions about individual people through their experiences. It's stupid and self centered to think someone will actually take your words as gospel and live THEIR life according to what YOU believe. Like I said, I would not want my child to bring home a white person, but I am not in the business of trying to controlling adults. Why does it not surprise me that you had such a short, unoriginal response to my post.
Wow, that was original. What's utterly rediculous is the fact that some people think that they're children are actually going to walk the same footsteps as you did. We can inform our children about white people and what they've done, but if your child has one ounce of brain power, they will form their own opinions about individual people through their experiences. It's stupid and self centered to think someone will actually take your words as gospel and live THEIR life according to what YOU believe. Like I said, I would not want my child to bring home a white person, but I am not in the business of trying to controlling adults. Why does it not surprise me that you had such a short, unoriginal response to my post.
Brother that was not the point of this thread..No you can't control your children once they have left..but you can plant the seed. Children do listen. But not to tell them, is crazy. It's important to tell them. My words aren't gospel at all. I'm just looking at the high rate of interracial dating, and how come black people aren't marrying each other..and marrying white knowing the history of white people, and how we have been lynched/tortured by white people..then and in the present.
Peace and Love.
kente417mojo 04-11-2005, 02:49 PM Brother that was not the point of this thread..No you can't control your children once they have left..but you can plant the seed. Children do listen. But not to tell them, is crazy. It's important to tell them. My words aren't gospel at all. I'm just looking at the high rate of interracial dating, and how come black people aren't marrying each other..and marrying white knowing the history of white people, and how we have been lynched/tortured by white people..then and in the present.
Peace and Love.
You can plant the seed Nisa, whether they have left the nest or not, but in the end, they are going to do what they want to do when you're not around. How many things did your parents tell you not to do (whule under their roof) that you did anyways. Pre-marital sex, drugs, alcohol, ditching school, stealing etc? Yeah, you can tell them not to date white people or trust white people, but when they go to school, the mall, the movies or whatever, they are going to come across people that might make them say "Hmmm, maybe mom was wrong, all white people aren't bad". They will form their own opinions about things the same way you and I did. The best thing my mom did for me was informing me about things, then letting me choose, either I listen to what she said or not. There are so many things I wish I listened to, but she knew when it came down to it, if I wanted to do it, I would find a way. If your child wants to date outside their race, they will, no matter how many times you yell and scream and beat it into their head.
You can plant the seed Nisa, whether they have left the nest or not, but in the end, they are going to do what they want to do when you're not around. How many things did your parents tell you not to do (whule under their roof) that you did anyways. Pre-marital sex, drugs, alcohol, ditching school, stealing etc? Yeah, you can tell them not to date white people or trust white people, but when they go to school, the mall, the movies or whatever, they are going to come across people that might make them say "Hmmm, maybe mom was wrong, all white people aren't bad". They will form their own opinions about things the same way you and I did. The best thing my mom did for me was informing me about things, then letting me choose, either I listen to what she said or not. There are so many things I wish I listened to, but she knew when it came down to it, if I wanted to do it, I would find a way. If your child wants to date outside their race, they will, no matter how many times you yell and scream and beat it into their head.
Ok brother. I still love you.
kente417mojo 04-11-2005, 03:00 PM Ok brother. I still love you.
:heart: Love you too pretty, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.:heart:
:heart: Love you too pretty, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.:heart:
Yep :) *giggle*
Intrepid 04-17-2005, 01:37 AM I will not specifically say not to bring and white man home.
I have expressed my feelings about interracial relationships to both of my kids.
I have also talked and exposed them to their heritage and society
I will let them make the best choice for them and their lives and hope that I agree. If I don't I cannot and will not turn my back on them. I'll turn somewhere for my own outside help and stability with the situation (you know what I mean :lol: )
Pharaoh Jahil 04-17-2005, 03:10 AM How many of you have told your offspring not to bring a white man/woman home..had that talk with them.I just had to ask this because of the many interracial couples I see..I mean how could you love and reproduce with the oppressor..
When I have children, I'm going to instill so much Afrikan self-pride and Black love in them that I wont worry about them bringing home a European.
I'm not going to teach them that the white man is the devil or anything but I am going to put strong emphasis on Black Unity.
Im going to make sure they have knowledge of self.
When they become grown, their dating decisions is going to be based on their up-bringing...
Shoot, other nationalities teach their children about the importance of preserving/maintaining that particular culture, heritage and identity.
This is an important concept that the Afrikan-American community lack which is why interacial-dating amongst us is exceedingly ridiculous.
Peace....
Khasm13 04-19-2005, 12:46 PM When I have children, I'm going to instill so much Afrikan self-pride and Black love in them that I wont worry about them bringing home a European.
I'm not going to teach them that the white man is the devil or anything but I am going to put strong emphasis on Black Unity.
word is bond son....this is also my approach
when i was a junior in high school, i got asked to a dance by a latina girl...when i told my moms who i was taking to the dance, she veto'd my decision...at the time i was mad as hell at her cause i wanted to go to the dance with the girl, but the older i got, the more i understood where mom dukes was come'n from...i don't think i'll do the same with my kidz...but if my future son or daughter went against my teachings and brought a white person home...it would be a long cosby moment speech behind it...very long
one love
khasm
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 02:53 PM I have three liluns and I won't tell my kids who they can and can't see based on skin color. At that time I'll tell them make sure you're with someone who will treat you right , make you happy and be down for you no matter what and I don't care what color they are..could be orange for all I care.Anything else is me trying to make my kids believe ,think and feel exactly the way I do and I won't do that..I'll give them the best advice I can and help them make informed decisions but pushing them to one race or another nah won't happen..
MississippiRed
The South is Calling
I have three liluns and I won't tell my kids who they can and can't see based on skin color. At that time I'll tell them make sure you're with someone who will treat you right , make you happy and be down for you no matter what and I don't care what color they are..could be orange for all I care.Anything else is me trying to make my kids believe ,think and feel exactly the way I do and I won't do that..I'll give them the best advice I can and help them make informed decisions but pushing them to one race or another nah won't happen..
MississippiRed
The South is Calling
Ok so if they marry white. I take it you wont complain about the white man.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 03:13 PM If my sons marry a white man I'll complain a lot....on the real though if my daughter marrys a white boy and he handles his business and treats her right and if they have babies he loves them babies and treats me and her mama right nah I won't complain ..what would I have to complain about ? cuz he's white....after he's doing everything else right ...nah no complaints none...now if he treats her bad and don't handle his business then we have problems I don't care what color his skin is...
MississippiRed
karmashines 04-19-2005, 03:18 PM If my sons marry a white man I'll complain a lot....
MississippiRed
lol! That would be a double-whammy situation. :tongue:
If my sons marry a white man I'll complain a lot....on the real though if my daughter marrys a white boy and he handles his business and treats her right and if they have babies he loves them babies and treats me and her mama right nah I won't complain ..what would I have to complain about ? cuz he's white....after he's doing everything else right ...nah no complaints none...now if he treats her bad and don't handle his business then we have problems I don't care what color his skin is...
MississippiRed
OMG now what the heck...that is the craziest mess I have ever heard. I cant even say anymore. smh..boy oh boy
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 03:51 PM If you have a daughter and she marries a man that treats her well, treats you well, loves their kids and takes care of his business to provide for his family and he's white will you complain? If so I feel bad for you because you've let get you to a point where you think only Black folks are good folks and that ain't the case I know some Black folks I wouldn't let step a foot in my yard..can't judge folk by the color of their skin gotta let everyone prove themselves to be a good or bad person..personally I upon initial contact don't trust or like anyone regardless of race folks have to earn my trust and friendship..Now what would you complain about?
MississippiRed
If you have a daughter and she marries a man that treats her well, treats you well, loves their kids and takes care of his business to provide for his family and he's white will you complain? If so I feel bad for you because you've let get you to a point where you think only Black folks are good folks and that ain't the case I know some Black folks I wouldn't let step a foot in my yard..can't judge folk by the color of their skin gotta let everyone prove themselves to be a good or bad person..personally I upon initial contact don't trust or like anyone regardless of race folks have to earn my trust and friendship..Now what would you complain about?
MississippiRed
You bring a white woman/man home..dont come back until you by yourself or divorce em. I dont do interracial.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 03:58 PM Why not...what if your child brings home a Black man or woman and they treat them like a dog will you complain then? or suck it up because their mate is Black.
MississippiRed
Why not...what if your child brings home a Black man or woman and they treat them like a dog will you complain then? or suck it up because their mate is Black.
MississippiRed
If they treat em bad, they gotta go too. I dont want my children to be hurt/treated like a dog by a person at all. I aint gonna suck it up cuz they are black..but dont bring whitey home..so many of our ancestors got killed/lynched for messing with white women. Dont even think about giving me that "its different now" line either
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 04:11 PM I never said anything was different and I'm a Mississippi native I know about lynching but that's not the point.The point is your child finding someone that makes them happy and treats them well. Folks was lynched for stealing chickens too,lynched for cutting eyes, Black folk been killed by other Black folks over women, and shoes, Blacks been killed by Koreans in liquor stores, so no Koreans either, see none of that has anything to do with your childs happiness it has to do with our (the parents) prejudices and the generalizations we make...I'm not trying to put my trip on my kids now if my kids say I won't date whites then so be it..that's on them but I can't force my opinion on them....
MississippiRed
I never said anything was different and I'm a Mississippi native I know about lynching but that's not the point.The point is your child finding someone that makes them happy and treats them well. Folks was lynched for stealing chickens too,lynched for cutting eyes, Black folk been killed by other Black folks over women, and shoes, Blacks been killed by Koreans in liquor stores, so no Koreans either, see none of that has anything to do with your childs happiness it has to do with our (the parents) prejudices and the generalizations we make...I'm not trying to put my trip on my kids now if my kids say I won't date whites then so be it..that's on them but I can't force my opinion on them....
MississippiRed
You know what..nevermind :lol: smh
I never said anything was different and I'm a Mississippi native I know about lynching but that's not the point.The point is your child finding someone that makes them happy and treats them well. Folks was lynched for stealing chickens too,lynched for cutting eyes, Black folk been killed by other Black folks over women, and shoes, Blacks been killed by Koreans in liquor stores, so no Koreans either, see none of that has anything to do with your childs happiness it has to do with our (the parents) prejudices and the generalizations we make...I'm not trying to put my trip on my kids now if my kids say I won't date whites then so be it..that's on them but I can't force my opinion on them....
MississippiRed
IT HAS DO WITH THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 04:21 PM See you're bypassing the issue. you have no ground to argue on except for the opinion the you don't like white folks and since you don't your kids shouldn't . That's not even logical...you even know it..we'll just have to agree to disagree with this one....
MississippiRed
See you're bypassing the issue. you have no ground to argue on except for the opinion the you don't like white folks and since you don't your kids shouldn't . That's not even logical...you even know it..we'll just have to agree to disagree with this one....
MississippiRed
I am the one bypassing the issue. no I am not. you are the one sweety. Yeh we have to disagree or whatever you want to call it. SMH
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 04:36 PM one last question ...do you vote for white folks or do you do write ins...do you by clothes that white folks make and food that comes from their factories is the computer you're on made in a factory that's owned by some white cat somewhere...?
MississippiRed
one last question ...do you vote for white folks or do you do write ins...do you by clothes that white folks make and food that comes from their factories is the computer you're on made in a factory that's owned by some white cat somewhere...?
MississippiRed
Man this is totally off the subject. I dont have in choice in that. If i had a choice..you know where i would go.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 04:54 PM that's no more off the subject than Black men getting lynched by white men for looking at or dating white women especially if the man your daughter is dating didn't do no lynching....should white folks hate Black folks because some of us kill some of them, should I hate Black folks because they killed my potna...take each person as an individual case not as the rep. of a whole race...when I was a younger man I couldn't stand white folks still have issues with them and Black folks for that matter but I'm trying to deal with folks on an individual basis now and I find that there's good and bad in everybody... It's all love though if everybody had the same opinions and ways of doing thangs life would be a long boring road
MississippiRed
Is it 5 yet I'm ready to get off work
yaphet al-wynn 04-19-2005, 05:22 PM MissippiRed, you are presenting some of the phrases of the day. If your daughter brought home a white guy, true-he did not lynch any Black persons, but HE is benefitting from the action that reinforces his white supremacy (natural born) or white skin privilege without having to do anything lethal-themselves. Same with white women
yaphet al-wynn 04-19-2005, 05:26 PM By reverse white people on average thinks Black men are inherent criminals even if the Black male Buffy brings home did not MUG her Aunt Prudence two weeks ago, they will think that the guy (Black male), that Buffy brought home is the perp---even if he had a 'airtight' alibi and white people are very UNAPOLOGETIC about this view. So please do not think ill of Black people being as unapologetic in reaction to history and experience.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 06:03 PM Man I've gone through all that..I still do but why should I lower myself or change my view of how to handle folk because of that..past experience would dictate that I can't trust white or Black folk so should I cease all relations with the good Black and white folk I know...nah I'll keep on doing what I do those I call friend will be as such those I consider an enemy I will do my best to avoid...I still avoid generalization considering folks on any level and will let my kids date who they wish as far as race goes anyway...and will be there to help them make the most informed decision they can.
MississippiRed
yaphet al-wynn 04-19-2005, 06:13 PM Nobody TOLD you to cease ANYTHING with ANYBODY. I think you just want to fly by certain things. No, individually-no problem with white people. As a group-just don't trust 'em. Even some good white folks said nothing during slavery, Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement. However HEROIC people no matter what shade-including some whites-DID!!!!
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 06:29 PM Never said I was told to cease anything it was rhetorical. As far as dealing with good folks, I'm not talking about so called good folk during slavery I'm talking about folks today that I respect and enjoy being around..and you're right as a group I don't trust them, as a group I dont' trust any race, Black, Hispanic, Asian but on a one on one basis I do.So do you trust the heroic white folk, what about the slave owning Black folk...anyway it's cool like I said before it's good that there are folks with differing points of view and it's beautiful that we have a site like Destee where we can debate our views ..by the way what does Jim Crow whites that were good but didn't do anything and heroic whites that did have to do with who my kids date?.We may have to agree to disagree.And what am I flying by?
MississippiRed
I'm wishin to be fishin
yaphet al-wynn 04-19-2005, 06:40 PM You contradicted another poster when she said you were going with the 'it's a different day' mantra and you went into it on consecutive postings, up to now. That what I was referring to.See a thread in the 'OPEN FORUM'-if you think things are so different, now. Both in a yes and no way.
Let's keep the peace here in this thread,Please
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 06:57 PM I never said it was a different day...some folks hate based on skin color but things are different today...today ofay won't come and take you out of your house castrate you and burn you alive..things are the same because in some that hatred has been taught from childhood so the feelings are there even if the actions are not..on both the Black and white side..I know how things are man and how they were my name ain't MississippiRed for decoration.One thing I'm learning in life as I get older is in life there are no absolutes...everything has to be taken on an individual basis...Two of Daddy's friends were lynched..killed while fishing, they found a dude last summer 30 miles from Mama's house hung in a pecan tree with a pillowcase over his head..I know how things have and haven't changed...but the question is why..is it because we (both Blackand White)raise our kids to be suspicious and intolerant of the other, because some of us even raise our babies to hate each other..kids dont' even relate to race like that....they could care less it's us as adults that poison their minds with our fears and prejudices...I try not to do that to mine in the end all this talk we do is irrelevant we will live and leave here and the same conversation will be going on when we leave..this question of race is the biggest issue we as people have and we will never let it go...i have a question though...so what are mixed race people to do then...?
MississippiRed
I never said it was a different day...some folks hate based on skin color but things are different today...today ofay won't come and take you out of your house castrate you and burn you alive..things are the same because in some that hatred has been taught from childhood so the feelings are there even if the actions are not..on both the Black and white side..I know how things are man and how they were my name ain't MississippiRed for decoration.One thing I'm learning in life as I get older is in life there are no absolutes...everything has to be taken on an individual basis...Two of Daddy's friends were lynched..killed while fishing, they found a dude last summer 30 miles from Mama's house hung in a pecan tree with a pillowcase over his head..I know how things have and haven't changed...but the question is why..is it because we (both Blackand White)raise our kids to be suspicious and intolerant of the other, because some of us even raise our babies to hate each other..kids dont' even relate to race like that....they could care less it's us as adults that poison their minds with our fears and prejudices...I try not to do that to mine in the end all this talk we do is irrelevant we will live and leave here and the same conversation will be going on when we leave..this question of race is the biggest issue we as people have and we will never let it go...i have a question though...so what are mixed race people to do then...?
MississippiRed
Red. I did not know that you were of black and white. My sincere apologies to you.
yaphet al-wynn 04-19-2005, 07:03 PM Nisa, peace reigns, just asking questions. The defense rests, your honor.
Nisa, peace reigns, just asking questions. The defense rests, your honor.
Ok. I just want to make sure.
MississippiRed 04-19-2005, 07:09 PM It's all love no need to apologize I respect your opinion and like engaging folk in these conversations plus you put out the recipe for my Friday dinner...Thank you for the consideration though.
MississippiRed
It's all love no need to apologize I respect your opinion and like engaging folk in these conversations plus you put out the recipe for my Friday dinner...Thank you for the consideration though.
MississippiRed
Ok.. :heart: :heart:
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 10:00 AM Man thats deep
I wouldnt tell my kids anything like that
Really dont see all whites as the oppressor
Thats deep different strokes for different folks I guess
jgyknowledge 02-23-2006, 10:31 AM Bunk dat!
I tell my son he can have white friends. But, I do stress to NOT date a white girl. Why should I have tolerance for interacial dating? I'm not feeling that on soo many levels its ridiculous. This integration thing has gone too damned far!!!!!
I have a friend and a cousin who married a white girl, but that's their business and I don't put my beliefs on them.
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 10:34 AM Bunk dat!
I tell my son he can have white friends. But, I do stress to NOT date a white girl. Why should I have tolerance for interacial dating? I'm not feeling that on soo many levels its ridiculous. This integration thing has gone too damned far!!!!!
I have a friend and a cousin who married a white girl, but that's their business and I don't put my beliefs on them.
Why is it so serious
To the fact that they cant have white friends??
Man to each his own I guess
jgyknowledge 02-23-2006, 10:40 AM You misread, I said that he CAN and DOES have white friends. I don't agree with interacial dating.
Why is it so serious
To the fact that they cant have white friends??
Man to each his own I guess
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 10:43 AM You misread, I said that he CAN and DOES have white friends. I don't agree with interacial dating.
Oh my fault
Yes I see now
LOL-What is wrong
With interracial dating though
I really dont think it hurts
The black community
That could be me coming from an interracial family
But I just dont see anything wrong with it
PoeticManifesta 02-23-2006, 10:46 AM yr supposed to be the median between the two,,, help us understand.... and teach your children differently. Mulattos are the new it group now... theres a lot of power there. It may be just so that one day theyrd be more mixed churen than blk... i dont believe they query that yet.. but thats the role.. to be the median. The voice of two worlds combined.
PoeticManifesta 02-23-2006, 10:51 AM I just consider bringin a white man home as disrespectful to my father.. not being that hes white, but i havent met many strong willed Alpha Males that are white.. I love the testosterone the flows strongly thru the blk mans veins,, now.. had /have i seen a white man thats not a limp.. or bloated excuse for a man.. then i would.. but we usually like what we see in our fathers... if you dont like your father .. or respect what he represents.. thats where, you get the women that go white... as i believe.. well .. not really i just think it makes the transistion that much easier. As well as those who.. just have had enough.
How many of you have told your offspring not to bring a white man/woman home..had that talk with them.I just had to ask this because of the many interracial couples I see..I mean how could you love and reproduce with the oppressor..
jgyknowledge 02-23-2006, 11:27 AM I'm still trying to figure out the effects its having on the Black community....so the jury is still deliberating. We can just call it personal preference brought on by my life experiences and reading.
Oh my fault
Yes I see now
LOL-What is wrong
With interracial dating though
I really dont think it hurts
The black community
That could be me coming from an interracial family
But I just dont see anything wrong with it
Blaklioness 02-23-2006, 01:06 PM If I had children, I would rear them, through living example, not to marry or mate with nonblacks...not based on hate or mere reaction to white supremacy (in ALL of its forms and embodiments), but based on SELF-RESPECT. I firmly believe that if you learn to love your own image and spirit enough, you'll avoid the pitfalls of climbing into your enemy's bed.
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 01:12 PM Some of yall sound races
I mean jst cause someone is white
Yall act like they are the devil
When most people wouldnt have that house
Gotten that education or the job if
It wasnt for a white person
Im not asking people to love them but dam
What has the white man or woman personally done to yall
Riada 02-23-2006, 01:22 PM We (their parents and I) have talked to my nephews about the types of qualities they should look for in a mate. This is our primary emphasis--QUALITIES. I hope they find Black women who possess those qualities.
Their mother and I have tried to teach them not to be swayed by the exterior of women--in terms of the pretty face or the voluptuous figure.
We've also told them they may have to look far and wide for a woman who has those QUALITIES, and not to settle for less.
jgyknowledge 02-23-2006, 01:50 PM We know black people can't be racists......prejudiced...absolutely!
I don't hear anybody yelling kill whitey!:rolling:
I just think that we tend to be too liberal. What'll happen when they get that first experience that really reminds them that they're black? That's why we must tell our kids the absolute truth about life, not some false ideas of the American dream.
Also....just because we don't want to mix genes doesn't mean that we hate anyone. We can mutually respect and live next to one another.
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 01:58 PM We know black people can't be racists......prejudiced...absolutely!
I don't hear anybody yelling kill whitey!:rolling:
I just think that we tend to be too liberal. What'll happen when they get that first experience that really reminds them that they're black? That's why we must tell our kids the absolute truth about life, not some false ideas of the American dream.
Also....just because we don't want to mix genes doesn't mean that we hate anyone. We can mutually respect and live next to one another.
Its not saying kill whitey
But I dont ubnderstand the seperation
That races in general are making
We are can learn from each other and be stronger
We are stronger united not just as a race though
My personal opinion
panafrica 02-23-2006, 03:00 PM yr supposed to be the median between the two,,, help us understand.... and teach your children differently. Mulattos are the new it group now... theres a lot of power there. It may be just so that one day theyrd be more mixed churen than blk... i dont believe they query that yet.. but thats the role.. to be the median. The voice of two worlds combined.
Mulattos are certainly being advertised as the new "it" group, and as they continue to be promoted as superior within the African American community, the question must be asked: What will happen to the black community, if there are more mixed "churen" than black one day? Can the community continue to exist, or should it willingly be replaced by a new society? I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like genocide to me! This being the case, why are blacks who oppose this being labelled racist? What group logically stays silent about their planned destruction?
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 03:03 PM Mulattos are certainly being advertised as the new "it" group, and as they continue to be promoted as superior within the African American community, the question must be asked: What will happen to the black community, if there are more mixed "churen" than black one day? Can the community continue to exist, or should it willingly be replaced by a new society? I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like genocide to me! This being the case, why are blacks who oppose this being labelled racist? What group logically stays silent about their planned destruction?
If thats what it sounds like
What are you doing to preserve it??
panafrica 02-23-2006, 03:22 PM If thats what it sounds like
What are you doing to preserve it??
I married a black woman, and had 2 black children. I encourage other black people to do the same!
300 not 3000
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 03:39 PM I married a black woman, and had 2 black children. I encourage other black people to do the same!
300 not 3000
Why do you though
How does that make life
Or the equality of blacks better
Whether they date outside there race or not
1 not the world
panafrica 02-23-2006, 05:02 PM Why do you though
How does that make life
Or the equality of blacks better
Whether they date outside there race or not
1 not the world
I do that because I love my people. There is no greater demonstration of love for one's people than ensuring to make sure they continue to exist. Indeed there can be no future; no progress; and no advancement for the black race, if no one makes it their priority to continue the race!
Tantrum 02-23-2006, 05:10 PM I do that because I love my people. There is no greater demonstration of love for one's people than ensuring to make sure they continue to exist. Indeed there can be no future; no progress; and no advancement for the black race, if no one makes it their priority to continue the race!
So you have married black and have a black family to show it
That is a wonderful thing I know you are gracious for that
Yet when you come here and speak your views to the masses online
Do you also do this to the masses on the streets as well
Thats my whole thing I know the internet this forum is an outreach
And if you touch one person you have made a differece
Yet why dont some of these so called black demonstrators on here
So called anti interracial this and inti racial that take this to the masses
panafrica 02-23-2006, 05:25 PM Yet why dont some of these so called black demonstrators on here. So called anti interracial this and inti racial that take this to the masses
You seem to be surprised that a forum such as this is not supportive of interracial unions. I don't know why you would be. By its very nature forums like these encourage black love. As far as taking the message to the masses (in the streets), that is done the same way it would be done on here. By letting people know how essential it is for black men to be with black women in order to continue the race. Those who agree with this will demonstrate that by keeping the black community intact, and black love alive by marrying/mating with a black man or woman. Those who don't agree with this because they are in an IR; are from an IR; or do not care about the continued existance of black people; will continue their push towards a genocidal one race society. As long as enough blacks understand the importance of continuing the race, then I'm satisfied. However, I will not let any promotion of Interracial mixing or color blind philosophical beliefs be received as any thing other than the racial genocide that it is! For a new people to be created, an old one has to be destroyed. I will not silently watch black folk vanish. Genocide is genocide. Whether it come from men in white hoods riding horses or through slick words and a bed....the ultimate result is still the same.
PoeticManifesta 02-23-2006, 05:47 PM no cause this is just an american standard... we will always have africa!
Mulattos are certainly being advertised as the new "it" group, and as they continue to be promoted as superior within the African American community, the question must be asked: What will happen to the black community, if there are more mixed "churen" than black one day? Can the community continue to exist, or should it willingly be replaced by a new society? I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like genocide to me! This being the case, why are blacks who oppose this being labelled racist? What group logically stays silent about their planned destruction?
panafrica 02-23-2006, 05:50 PM no cause this is just an american standard... we will always have africa!
Which is facing mass population decreases through disease, war, and emmigration.
PoeticManifesta 02-23-2006, 05:51 PM In addition..
the answer to our problems..
is not to go outside the blk society to find a mate.. cause then your just avoiding the problem.. the more we stay together.. the more we teach others.
spicybrown 02-23-2006, 09:52 PM After reading through this thread, it seems as though as some members here don't/can't think futuristic. This is the biggest problems we face as AA's living in a WS world. Are we going to wait till' there are only several thousand Blacks left in America until we revive the old theme: "Black Is Beautiful"? Power is in numbers. Would you attack an enemy who has 100 buddies, or an enemy with just a few? Why dip and dab into other races issues before we think of ourselves. That's another issue we have as a race. As history and the present has shown, Whites(who rule) don't have our best interest at heart. Of course a white man will be the first to give us that job, loan, etc.......because thay happen to control 70% of the resources!!
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