What exactly is a Pan African..i was reading an article about Malcolm X..and it said he was one..help a sistah out.

What exactly is a Pan African..

someone who lives in africa or has his/her roots in africa. that's a pan african.
i am white and also pan african. becouse i was born there.

ok..thanks

You welcome

where as the pot African prefers stews and soups. :dance:

where as the pot African prefers stews and soups. :dance:


You always talkin stuff james :lol:

someone who lives in africa or has his/her roots in africa. that's a pan african. i am white and also pan african. becouse i was born there.

Sister Nisa:

This is not what a Pan African is! A Pan African is someone who believes in PanAfricanism, which is a call for unity between black people worldwide, through our common heritage & experiences!

Sister Nisa:

This is not what a Pan African is! A Pan African is someone who believes in PanAfricanism, which is a call for unity between black people worldwide, through our common heritage & experiences!


Oh ok..thanks for the clarification brother ...woo

someone who lives in africa or has his/her roots in africa. that's a pan african.i am white and also pan african. becouse i was born there.

You are not a PanAfrican Poblao, you might be a white person who lives in Africa. However the very defination of PanAfricanism excludes you. Do not come on here and attempt to spread confusion & ignorance!

Sister Nisa:

A Pan African is someone who believes in PanAfricanism



i am totaly agree with u in this.

i am totaly agree with u in this.

I know I'm correct, I don't need your validation!

alright ye men full of testosterone...lets calm down

You are not a PanAfrican Poblao, you might be a white person who lives in Africa.
However the very defination of PanAfricanism excludes you.


i am not just a white person who lives in africa, i belong to one of the oldest indignous people of africa.


Do not come on here and attempt to spread confusion & ignorance!


spreading confusion & ignorance? it was just a simple answer on her question.

alright ye men full of testosterone...lets calm down

i am calm :)

i am not just a white person who lives in africa, i belong to one of the oldest indignous people of africa. spreading confusion & ignorance? it was just a simple answer on her question.

You gave an incorrect answer to a question about PanAfricanism, which does not involve white people (quite the opposite). You are white & you claim to belong to one of the oldest indignous people of Africa (as if such a group exist)? What pray tell would that group be? I warn you in advance, that you better not say the Afrikaaners of South Africa!

QQ'n.......

You gave an incorrect answer to a question about PanAfricanism, which does not involve white people (quite the opposite).

ok maybe my difinition for pan africanisme is little bit different from yours.
i think i was more talking abouth pan africanisme of Nekroma.


You are white, and you claim to belong to one of the oldest indignous people of Africa? What pray tell would that group be? You'd better not say the Afrikaaners of South Africa!

No afrikaaners of South Africa are descentants of european colonistes (dutchs).
that's something else then an indiginous inhabitant of africa like me.
i am Amazigh. my people are Amazigh people. the ferst one who called africa africa. others call us: berbers. in the anciens time they called us also: lybians, numidians, libu, ect.. but we call ourself always Amazigh.

No afrikaaners of South Africa are descentants of european colonistes (dutchs).that's something else then an indiginous inhabitant of africa like me.i am Amazigh. my people are Amazigh people. the ferst one who called africa africa. others call us: berbers. in the anciens time they called us also: lybians, numidians, libu, ect.. but we call ourself always Amazigh.

So what is your purpose in coming to this website?

Ohhhh... North African ???

So what is your purpose in coming to this website?

No purposes. searching the net abouth africa i found this discussion board.
by the way i live in europe since i was very young. so all of us are far away from africa. that's maybe the only similar thing LOL

By the way if i am not welcome here, then i would not post anymore here. anyway my english is very bad to post more poste or even to flood your board with threads so dont be afraid for that.

Ohhhh... North African ???

Yep i am North African :)
and what abouth you?

Ohhhh... North African ???

North Africans are mostly Arabs sister Akilah. North Africa has been pretty much Arabic since the 6th Century AD. These people are on the same continent, but it is a stretch to call them our brothers! They enslaved Africans before Europeans came to the West African shores, and they continue to enslave Africans to this day!

North Africans are mostly Arabs sister Akilah. North Africa has been pretty much Arabic since the 6th Century AD.
North africans are mostly arabs by language and not by blood. and do not forgot ther is still Amazigh people with ther language and culture and they have nothing to do with arabs. i am moroccan from north morocco and morocco count totaly more then 50% Amazigh who still speak ther anciens languages. also in algeria and other countries. so we are always there. so we are not arabs. dont mix these 2.


They enslaved Africans before Europeans came to the West African shores, and they continue to enslave Africans to this day!

maybe arabs, but me as an berber from north morocco i have northing to do with that. Amazigh people means: free people.

North africans are mostly arabs by language and not by blood. and do not forgot ther is still Amazigh people with ther language and culture and they have nothing to do with arabs. i am moroccan from north morocco and morocco count totaly more then 50% Amazigh who still speak ther anciens languages. also in algeria and other countries. so we are always there. so we are not arabs. dont mix these 2. maybe arabs, but me as an berber from north morocco i have northing to do with that. Amazigh people means: free people.

Poblao:

I will acknowledge that Berbers existed in North Africa before Arabic conquest of the region. However for your information, the PanAfricanist Movement is a black movement. It does not typically include Northern Africa. It most certainly does not include anyone who considers themselves to be white (which you do). As a person from an African background, you are free to view whatever post interest you. Be aware though that this is a PanAfricanist forum, every post within this is written from that perspective. Therefore I advise you to post with much thought & consideration!

i said that a white person would claim to be black.
in my thread about pure black.

he is, in fact, an African.
he was born there.
how many of us were?

Berbers is cool.

**I, for my part, have made a solem vow to never again post here on DDF, but I must respond to this Poblao figure who dares to claim to be a "brother" of Black people.**

It must not be forgotten that he as a Tamazight (or Berber) is a descendant of the original White tribes who destroyed the Black civilizations along the North African coast many millennia before the Arabs or the European Whites did. At the end of the Ice Age, when significant numbers of White tribes began to migrate from the steps of the Caucasus and northern Europe they began to settle amongst the Black people of southern Europe and Africa. However, this was not peaceful migrations but wholesale wars of conquest and destruction (for you see they were a very aggressive nomadic people who had no viable lands of their own ); each wave after wave of invading Caucasoid tribe pushing the Blacks further and further south, because even though the Blacks fought bravely at first, they could not sustain such constant attacks by these tribes (who were willing to work together to achieve a common objective) and so were eventually overwhelmed and subjugated.

The Berbers are the descendants of those invaders who settled along the northern African coast and continued their wars against Blacks even till today. They even have the nerve to claim that they were the "original" peoples of north Africa...just as the Afrikaans claim to be indigenous to southern Africa. Let's not kid ourselves here, the Berbers hate Black people (even though most are what would be described as Mulattoid) more than the Arabs do. They were the middlemen who raided Black civilizations for slaves and transported them to such places like Cairo, Basra (Iraq), Baghdad, Mecca and Medina. It was they who formed the fanatical fatimid Almoravid and Almohad dynasties that sacked Kumbi-Saleh (the capital of Wagadu or more commonly known as Ghana) and caused so much death and destruction to the Blacks who inhabited the regions along the bend of the Niger river. The much hated Tuareg or Kel Tamashek people of Mali, Niger, Mauritania and Chad continue this tradition till today.

Even till today in most of those countries (and the rest of north Africa) where the enslavement of Blacks continue to exist you see the White Berbers lauding over the Black people who are original people of those lands.


In closing...

Mr. Poblao, you're people are not, nor have they ever been "brothers" to Black people. You are our eternal enemies since pre-historic times. Let us not deceive ourselves; the Berbers may not be Arabs or Europeans, but they are still White.

Pan Africanism to Africans in America is a movement to go "Back to Africa". Brother El Hajjie Malik Shabazz incuraged black people to go back to Africa as did The Hon. M.Marcus Garvy and meany others. There is at this time a "Mass" migration back to Africa today for those who know what time it is and have learned that a man or woman is "Nothing" with out "Land" they can call their own.
In the words of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad: We must have some of this Earth we can call our own. Brothers and Sisters

Sincerely

i said that a white person would claim to be black.
in my thread about pure black.

he is, in fact, an African.
he was born there.
how many of us were?

Berbers is cool.

Brother Jamesfrmphilly, he is not claiming to be black. He is claiming to have people in Africa; however, he stated in his 1st post that he is in fact white. A white person is what he is! For your reference, the Afrikaneers of South Africa, claim to be Africans as well. That does not mean they are the original people of those lands (they are not), or that they are black. That does not mean they are our friends & brothers (if you check the history, again you will see they are not)!

Pan Africanism to Africans in America is a movement to go "Back to Africa". Brother El Hajjie Malik Shabazz incuraged black people to go back to Africa as did The Hon. M.Marcus Garvy and meany others. There is at this time a "Mass" migration back to Africa today for those who know what time it is and have learned that a man or woman is "Nothing" with out "Land" they can call their own.
In the words of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad: We must have some of this Earth we can call our own.

Pan Africanism includes more than a movement to go back to Africa brother Moorfius. Indeed a person can be PanAfrican, and never step foot on Africa. For a PanAfricanist, Africa is the center of their philosophy. It is the common link that unifies the PanAfricanist to their brothers and sisters in the Diaspora! However PanAfricanism goes beyond just African Americans & Continental Africans. PanAfricanism includes Blacks in the Caribbean, South America, Europe, and Asia. Indeed some of the foremost minds on PanAfricanism hailed from these areas!

**I, for my part, have made a solem vow to never again post here on DDF**
if you have all this information to share we need you to post here.
why don't you work out your differences and come back?
i need your help.

**I, for my part, have made a solem vow to never again post here on DDF, but I must respond to this Poblao figure who dares to claim to be a "brother" of Black people.**

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Destee

Pan Africanism includes more than a movement to go back to Africa brother Moorfius. Indeed a person can be PanAfrican, and never step foot on Africa. For a PanAfricanist, Africa is the center of their philosophy. It is the common link that unifies the PanAfricanist to their brothers and sisters in the Diaspora! However PanAfricanism goes beyond just African Americans & Continental Africans. PanAfricanism includes Blacks in the Caribbean, South America, Europe, and Asia. Indeed some of the foremost minds on PanAfricanism hailed from these areas!

So, then, could/would Pan Africanism be also spoken of as Global Africanism? Might that grow, someday, into, simply, Africanism? Could we get to a commonism whereby we all work toward agreeing that Africanism includes Honor, Dignity, Integrity? (Sure, it doesn't always look like that, but, I would opine that most of the stuff we throw down are responses/reactions to the mess that is heaped upon us. And those of us that heap it upon us are so caught up in the other mess that they can't really even see themselves?)

Knowing who "I/MySelf" am, I can (mostly) just shrug off the bs like water off of a duck's back and stand up under the onslaught. Perhaps a "tagline": "I am an African. I will Honor the Integrity of my Dignity in all things, at all times, at all costs!" ... or something along those lines?

So, then, could/would Pan Africanism be also spoken of as Global Africanism? Might that grow, someday, into, simply, Africanism? Could we get to a commonism whereby we all work toward agreeing that Africanism includes Honor, Dignity, Integrity?

If PanAfricanism ever becomes universally accepted (currently it is far from that), this would be one of the achievements of the movement.

someone who lives in africa or has his/her roots in africa. that's a pan african.
i am white and also pan african. becouse i was born there.

Excuse me?

EXCUSE ME???????

A 'pan-African' refers to anyone of African descent as 'pan-Africanism' means the unity of all African descended people worldwide. Whites/Arabs/Indians born in Africa are NOT Africans, they do NOT come from African ethnic groups, speak African languages or have anything to do with African culture(s). They are neither Africans nor people of African descent. An African born in Zambia to two Black Zambian parents is telling you this. Whites have nothing to do with (continental) African or pan-African unity. A White South African has nothing to do with a Wolof from Senegal or a Black American from Mississipi. How on Earth do you rationalize calling yourself a "pan-African" or an "African" ???!?

A 'pan-African' refers to anyone of African descent as 'pan-Africanism' means the unity of all African descended people worldwide. Whites/Arabs/Indians born in Africa are NOT Africans, they do NOT come from African ethnic groups, speak African languages or have anything to do with African culture(s). They are neither Africans nor people of African descent.

Say this again African_Prince, loud enough so everyone can hear it!