Black People | African Americans | Online Community





Black Chat - Black Poetry - Black Discussions - Destee





Black People | Black Chat | Black Poetry | Destee

View Full Version : Discussion : SPIRITUAL NUMEROLOGY...


Aqil
08-01-2001, 12:16 AM
0 is the number of God. It has no beginning, no end. It may be joined but never allows penetration. All life comes from the zero...and will rejoin the zero, the sum total of life and death. The zero is the God-force - the number of God...

1 is the number of man...

2 is the number of woman...

3 is the number of creation...

4 is the number of the Universe, representing the four quadrants of the Heavens. It is the number of Islam. It is the number of the square and the base of the pyramid. The number 4 also represents the complete cycle of life and death...beginning with (1) conception, (2) birth, (3) life and (4) death...

5 is the number of religion...the combination of woman (2) and creation (3)...

6 is the number of procreation, represented symbolically by the 6-point star, or the "Star of David." It symbolizes the male-female element coming together to generate the Cosmos. The upright triangle of the 6-point star represents the male element - the inverted triangle represents the female element. The word "sex" is derived from the six...

7 is the number of spirituality...

8 is the number of equilibrium...

9 is the number of Nature...

10 is the most perfect number; the number of God and man together...

Aqil
08-01-2001, 12:24 AM
28 - THE PERFECT NUMBER

There are perfect numbers in mathematics. A perfect number is one in which all the whole-number factors [or divisors] add up to the number itself. The first perfect number is 6, of which all the divisors are 1,2,3 [1+2+3=6]. The second is 28, of which all the divisors are 1,2,4,7,14 [1+2+4+7+14=28].

The Greek mathematician Nichomachus spent several years looking for the next two, which are 496 and 8128. According to mathematicians, there is not another perfect number until 33,550,336.

There are some interesting results when the last three perfect numbers are added horizontally:

4+9+6 = 19, 1+9 = 10, the MOST perfect number.

8+1+2+8 = 19

3+3+5+5+0+3+3+6 = 28, the perfect number that reduces to 10, the most perfect number...

Everybody's 28th birthday falls on the same day you were born on. As does your 56th and 84th birthdays. Beyond 84 the cycle goes 112 and 140. This is so because it takes the Sun 28 years to make one complete revolution on its axis.

Now if you list these numbers as follows and add them horizontally, i.e.,

28 - 2+8=10 - 1+0 = 1
56 - 5+6=11 - 1+1 = 2
84 - 8+4=12 - 1+2 = 3
112 - 1+1+2 = 4
140 - 1+4+0 = 5

And when you divide a solar year (365 days) by 7 (the number of days in a week), the answer is 52.142857.

When you divide a leap year (366 days) by 7 the answer is 52.285714.

The perfect number 28 appears in both instances.

And 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 = 28

Aqil
08-01-2001, 12:37 AM
The number 1 is the number of man...it represents the First Cause. The zero has always been taken as the symbol of endlessness - otherwise Eternity. Place the 1 and the 0 side by side and you get the most perfect number, representing God and man....

Place as many of the zeros side by side as you like, and you get such a figure as 1,000,000. divide this figure by the mystic number 7 and you get the number 142857...

Add as many zeros as you like, and keep on dividing by 7, and you yourself may go on through all eternity and you can only get repetitions of the same 142857, which from time immemorial was referred to as the "Sacred Number"...

When the Sacred Number is added horizontally, e.g., 1+4+2+8+5+7, it gives the number 27, and 2+7=9, which is the root number. In other words, you get the full range of the first series of numbers on which all materialistic or human calculations can be built...

And 142857 x 7 = 99999!

In the most ancient rules of occult philosophy, we find the rule that the spiritual number 7 is the only number capable of dividing the most perfect number 10, and continuing in itself as long as the number representing Eternity (10) exists...and yet at every addition of itself produces the number 9...

In other words, it produces the basic number on which all human beings depend, and the whole edifice of human thought finds expression...9, the number of Nature...
It is also interesting to note that the Royal Egyptian Cubit of Memphis was divided into 7 palms of 4 fingers each, for a total of 28.

According to Prof. Livio Stecchini of Harvard, the spiritual number 7 was common to ancient Egypt because it allowed simple solutions to problems of practical measurement...

With the value of pi=22/7, it was simpler to have a septenary cubit. A square of side 7 (the number of spirituality) was a diagonal of 10 (the most perfect number), and a square of 10 was a semi-diagonal of 7...

Aqil
08-01-2001, 12:53 AM
From the Great Pyramid of Gizeh:

"The width of the King’s Chamber (206.066 in.) multiplied by the square root of pi equals 365.24 in., which are the number of days in a solar year."

Proof:

(a) pi = 3.1415929535897932384626433832795.

(b) the square root of pi = 1.7724538505516027298167483341.

(c) the width of the King's Chamber (206.066 in.) x the square root of pi

(1.7724538505516027298167483341) =

365.242475240696065681224180622218, which are the number of days in a solar year.


The priest/astrologers of ancient Egypt were also spiritual mathematicians of the highest order...

Aqil
08-01-2001, 12:56 AM
The word "zero" itself comes from the Arabic "cifr," from which the English word "cipher" is derived...

AACOOLDRE
08-03-2001, 05:12 PM
This is very deep and further proves the Christians applied Egyptian numerlogy in their religion.Plato said that five was a marriage number 400 years before Jesus told the ten virgin parable/fable.

Marlon
09-23-2001, 12:47 PM
whuss da source for da interpretation of numbers? 4, 5, n 10 izz MORE den questionable...

define RELIGION (and compare it wif SPIRITUALISM)...
da COMPLETE cycle of life and death??????????

n WHERE did u get ya info on 'perfect numbers'? it CLEARLY aint ALL da factors (da number itself)...

CLEARLY issa DEEP SIGNIFICANCE to numbers--EVEN in da choice of SYMBOLS (8 as BALANCE--turned SIDEWAYS izz INFINITY)...

i look forward to an enlightening discussion...

Marlon

Marlon
10-01-2001, 09:07 AM
it woulda been nice if SOMEBODY had responded...

i gotta coupla numeric problems bugn me...

da TIME MEASUREMENT thang izz a more existential thang, but da (socalled) euclidian math of 'perfect' numbers izz a nagn q...

iss ways 2 calc by hand perfect numbers--dey related 2 da sequency of prime numbers (of course, u would have to know or readily ID larger--5+ digit--prime #s)...

thankz anyway...

Marlon

Destee
10-01-2001, 12:41 PM
Marlon ... Hello and Welcome to the Forum! :wave:

I'd love to answer your questions but I don't have the answers.

Aqil started this thread and probably hasn't seen your questions yet. Give him a moment, as he's usually quite willing to answer all questions asked.

Destee

Aqil
10-02-2001, 03:12 AM
Whuss da source for da interpretation of numbers? 4, 5, n 10 izz MORE den questionable... Mathematics for the Million, Lance Hogben, W.W. Norton, Inc., 1967; The Numbers of Life, Kevin Quinn Avery, DMS., Dolphin Books, 1977; Cheiro's Book of Numbers, Arco Publishing Co., 1964, The Great Pyramid Decoded, Peter Lemesurier, Element Books, Ltd., 1977

Define RELIGION (and compare it wif SPIRITUALISM)...
da COMPLETE cycle of life and death???The word “religion” is derived from the Latin word “religo,” which means to tie, to fasten, or bind back. The words “ligament” and “legion” are also derived from the Latin root word “religo.” Religion really means the scientific understanding of the Supreme Controller of the Universe; to understand the Supreme Controller and to obey His laws. Spiritualism is a philosophy, doctrine or religion that emphasizes the spiritual (i.e., pertaining to God) rather than the material...Four (4) is the number of Islam; it represents the complete cycle of life, i.e., (1) conception, (2) birth, (3) life, and (4) death.

n WHERE did u get ya info on 'perfect numbers'? it CLEARLY ain't ALL da factors (da number itself)... Mathematics for the Million, Lance Hogben. W.W. Norton, Inc., 1967

da TIME MEASUREMENT thang izz a more existential thang, but da (so-called) euclidian math of 'perfect' numbers izz a nagn q... A perfect number is one in which all the whole-number factors [or divisors] add up to the number itself. The first perfect number is 6, of which all the divisors are 1,2,3 [i.e., 1+2+3=6]. The second is 28, of which all the divisors are 1,2,4,7,14 [i.e., 1+2+4+7+14=28].

The Greek mathematician Nichomachus spent several years looking for the next two, which are 496 and 8128. According to mathematicians, there is not another perfect number until 33,550,336!... There are some interesting results when the last three perfect numbers are added horizontally:

4+9+6=19 - 1+9=10, the MOST perfect number...
8+1+2+8=19 - same as above
3+3+5+5+0+3+3+6= 28!!! - the perfect number that reduces to 10, the most perfect number...

iss ways 2 calc by hand perfect numbers--dey related 2 da sequence of prime numbers (of course, u would have to know or readily ID larger--5+ digit--prime #s)... thankz anyway...You're quite welcome...

Marlon
10-02-2001, 08:35 AM
my bad--i shoulda said SPIRITUALITY...

da practical application of RELIGION belies its (proffered) theoretical definition...

n LIFE ends in death only (?) in THIS REALM...while exactly whuss beyond it izz debatable, it aint rilly debatable dat iss sumpn beyond it (ie an AFTERLIFE would obliterate dat 'complete cycle of life' crap)...

n whuss wif repeatn a part of your 2nd post??????? da SOURCE of (socalled) euclidian maff izz whuss notable...dess what i wuzz askn bout...

if somebody ask a q n u don't know da answer, u should eitha ask 4 clarification (2 make sure u understand da q) OR say u don't know (which izz a very valid answer 2 some qs)...

thankz anyway izz thankz 4 nuffn...sayn 'u quite welcome' izz a clueless insult...n iss WORSE if u aware dat iss an insult...

Marlon

Aqil
10-02-2001, 09:34 AM
"da practical application of RELIGION belies its (proffered) theoretical definition..."

If you say so...

"n LIFE ends in death only (?) in THIS REALM..."

Yes, in the Earth realm...

"...while exactly whuss beyond it izz debatable, it aint rilly debatable dat iss sumpn beyond it..."

God is beyond everything...

"...(ie an AFTERLIFE would obliterate dat 'complete cycle of life' crap)..."

The afterlife is an aspect that is not considered in spiritual numerology, which of course operates in the Earth realm, and ad hominem attacks are indicative of a weak-minded person...

"...n whuss wif repeatn a part of your 2nd post??????? da SOURCE of (socalled) euclidian maff izz whuss notable...dess what i wuzz askn bout..."

My bad...I thought I was answering your question...

"...if somebody ask a q n u don't know da answer, u should eitha ask 4 clarification (2 make sure u understand da q) OR say u don't know (which izz a very valid answer 2 some qs)... "

Thank you for the advice...

"thankz anyway izz thankz 4 nuffn...sayn 'u quite welcome' izz a clueless insult...n iss WORSE if u aware dat iss an insult...

Marlon

I don't feel you on this one Marlon...it certainly wasn't my intention to make you feel this way...

Aqil
10-02-2001, 12:46 PM
Interesting numerical information re: the WTC bombing...look at this:

The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9+1+1 = 11...

September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2+5+4 = 11...

After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year...

119 is the area code of Iraq/Iran: 1+1+9 = 11...

The Twin Towers: Standing side by side, they look like the number 11...

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11...

Flight 11: 92 on board - 9+2 = 11...

Flight 77: 65 on board - 6+5 = 11...

There is more...

New York State: The 11th state admitted to the Union...

"New York City": 11 letters...

"Afghanistan": 11 letters...

"The Pentagon": 11 letters...


(1 = KNOWLEDGE) :bomb:

Destee
10-02-2001, 01:20 PM
911 is also our national phone number for help

do you think they considered all these things (or even some of them) prior to the attack?

:confused:

Aqil
10-03-2001, 08:33 PM
Although the numerical information re: the terrible event is quite interesting, I think they're purely coincidental...

Destee
10-03-2001, 08:44 PM
I was going to ask ...

"Really???!!!! For Real???!!!! You think all of this is coincidence??!!"

But I changed my mind because I know you wouldn't have said it
if you didn't think it :)

I think it's too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence! :eeek:
(is this a Capricorn trait or something??) :)

Destee

Aqil
10-04-2001, 02:41 PM
I am referring to the numbers that are going around re: the incident...to me they are coincidental...

Aqil
07-18-2003, 10:35 AM
From the Great Pyramid of Gizeh:

The width of the King’s Chamber (206.066 in.) multiplied by the square root of pi equals 365.24 in., which are the number of days in a solar year.

Proof:

(a) pi = 3.1415929535897932384626433832795.

(b) the square root of pi = 1.7724538505516027298167483341.

(c) the width of the King's Chamber (206.066 in.) x the square root of pi

(1.7724538505516027298167483341) =

365.242475240696065681224180622218, which are the number of days in a solar year.

The priest/astrologers of ancient Egypt were also spiritual mathematicians of the highest order...

Aqil
09-19-2003, 09:23 AM
According to mathematicians - with the aid of computers - there is not another perfect number until 33,550,336!...

And 3+3+5+5+0+3+3+6 = 28, the perfect number that reduces to 10, the most perfect number...

Aqil
11-03-2003, 11:13 AM
The powers of ten...

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/

Aqil
11-03-2003, 11:18 AM
0 is the number of God. It has no beginning, no end. It may be joined but never allows penetration. All life comes from the zero...and will rejoin the zero, the sum total of life and death. The zero is the God-force - the number of God...

Aqil
11-04-2003, 07:13 AM
The number 1 is the number of man...it represents the First Cause. The zero has always been taken as the symbol of endlessness - otherwise Eternity. Place the 1 and the 0 side by side and you get the most perfect number, representing God and man...

Aqil
06-04-2004, 06:33 AM
The number 28 is a perfect number, because it reduces to 10, the most perfect number...

When you divide a solar year (365 days) by 7 (the number of days in a week), the answer is 52.142857.

When you divide a leap year (366 days) by 7, the answer is 52.285714.

The perfect number 28 appears in both instances...

And 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 = 28

Pharaoh Jahil
07-17-2004, 02:17 PM
Aqil you have math bruh..... Have you been building with the gods and earths?

Aqil
07-20-2004, 08:34 AM
Shokran, Jahil...no, the knowledge that I impart is always a result of intense research and study. Here is great wisdom:

"Acquire knowledge. It enables its possessor to distinguish right from wrong; it lighteth the way to Heaven; it is our friend in the desert, our society in solitude, our companion when friendless; it guideth us to happiness; it sustaineth us in misery; it is an ornament amongst friends, and an armor against enemies."

[Prophet Muhammad (saw)]

Aqil
01-27-2005, 10:09 PM
Re: "The Number of the Beast":

The following fact is quite well known, but still interesting: If you write the first 6 Roman numerals, in order from largest to smallest (DCLXVI) you get 666. In Roman numerals 666 represents all the numbers from 1 to 500 in descending order, namely D (500) + C (100) + L (50) + X (10) + V (5) + I (1), or DCLXVI = 666...

PurpleMoons
01-27-2005, 10:36 PM
hmmph! yes, that is interesting! :thinking:

Aqil
01-28-2005, 05:34 AM
There are also amicable numbers. Asked what a friend was, Pythagoras replied, “One who is the other I, such as 220 and 284.” Here is its interpretation:

All the divisors of 220 (1,2,4,5,10,11,20,22,44,55,110) add up to 284, and all the divisors of 284 (1,2,4,71,142) add up to 220!

Keita Kenyatta
01-28-2005, 07:08 AM
I appreciate your effort, but once again you keep going to an outside source. I will return to deal with this in grand fashion. If this math was truely "divine" or spiritual, you would not have made some of the crucial mistakes that you did in laying it down which I will have to expose. I will be back, I have my own post to do right now. Nice try anyway.

Keita Kenyatta
01-28-2005, 10:56 AM
Okay, lets do this like this my brother. I notice that you keep coming to this forum with something that the invader or the white man done wrote in his books without absolute authentication...as if they are spiritual people !! LOL

OUR ANCESTORS...LET ME SAY IT AGAIN..."OUR ANCESTORS NUMBER SYSTEM WAS NOT LIKE THAT".

The number system of our people went from 0 to 9 and no further. While it's true that the present numeral system we have is Arabic, that was not ours and as we know..."NO ONE ON THE EARTH HAS SURPASSED THE MATH OF OUR ANCESTORS". So lets begin this dance.

As I stated, according to our ancestors and the the natural cipher or what we call zero (0), no other numbers exist outside of 0 to 9. 0 or cipher is 360 degrees. zero has no numerical value...therefore when we add 3+6 we get 9, the number of completion. Which is why the 9th letter of the alphabet is "I".

A woman carries a baby 9 months and upon it's birth it is able to say "I" was born. In our ancestors history, AMEN which mean the hidden or concealed was represented by 0 or cipher. Because all things that physically exist in cipher or 0 came into being from it, it was the "motion of cipher or 0" that caused all things to manifest.

To illustate what I am saying, I will give you an alphabet and number chart to examine.

...a.......b.......c.......d........e.......f..... ..g.......h........i
...1.......2.......3.......4........5.......6..... .7.......8........9

..j.........K.......l.......m........n......o..... ..p.....q........r
10.....11.....12.....13.......14....15.....16..... 17....18

s.......t........u........v.........w.......x..... ..y......z
19....20......21.....22.......23.....24......25... .26......

If we examine the chart we will see that each number of the alphabet cancels out to the cardinal numbers in the top row.

According to the alphabets, r is the 18th letter. When we add 1+8 we will see that it adds up to 9 which is the same value as I.

A, J and S all equal 1. Remembering that zero has no value, we see that A=1, J=1 and S=1. D=4, M=4 and V=4.

According to the Gods and Earths the system works out this way

1=knowledge
2=wisdom
3=understanding
4=culture or freedom
5=power and refinement
6=equality
7=god
8=build and destroy
9=born

The system of our ancestors is

0=Amen
1=Ausar
2=Seker
3=Tehuti
4=maat
5=Herukuti
6=Heru
7=het-Heru
8=Sebek
9=Auset

Our ancestors math relates more closely to the math of the Gods and Earths if we do the math and if we know our history. In essence, there is no divine 10, for 10 does not exist since 0 has no numerical or place value. Even so, I explore and reveal much more in my forth coming book. Also 666 is not only the number of the devil but of man also and according to the formula our ancestors worked out, they tell you where the devil is and how to kill it. NOW THAT'S DIVINE MATHEMATICS!!!

JUST A TASTE...THE BOOK WILL BE OUT SOON ! :-)

Aqil
01-28-2005, 11:24 AM
What is the source of your information?

queentswana
01-28-2005, 12:01 PM
IT AIN'T THE CLEAR PEOPLE, THAT'S FOR SURE !!

info-moetry
01-28-2005, 12:20 PM
peace god!

5 & 6-7, let 1 be 9..................

with - Knowledge, Wisdom & Understanding
we gain - Freedom, Justice & Equality
which helps us provide - Food, Clothes & Shelter
so we can achieve - Love, Peace & Happiness

from the god Sincere!

peace

Aqil
01-28-2005, 12:39 PM
IT AIN'T THE CLEAR PEOPLE, THAT'S FOR SURE!!Well who is it then, queentswana???

Keita Kenyatta
01-28-2005, 12:46 PM
That was my fault bro...you know she don't post in these forums. I only got one computer up and forgot to log her out before I wrote that...but I'll get back...gotta go to the store now.

Sekhemu
01-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Okay, lets do this like this my brother. I notice that you keep coming to this forum with something that the invader or the white man done wrote in his books without absolute authentication...as if they are spiritual people !! LOL

OUR ANCESTORS...LET ME SAY IT AGAIN..."OUR ANCESTORS NUMBER SYSTEM WAS NOT LIKE THAT".

The number system of our people went from 0 to 9 and no further. While it's true that the present numeral system we have is Arabic, that was not ours and as we know..."NO ONE ON THE EARTH HAS SURPASSED THE MATH OF OUR ANCESTORS". So lets begin this dance.

As I stated, according to our ancestors and the the natural cipher or what we call zero (0), no other numbers exist outside of 0 to 9. 0 or cipher is 360 degrees. zero has no numerical value...therefore when we add 3+6 we get 9, the number of completion. Which is why the 9th letter of the alphabet is "I".

A woman carries a baby 9 months and upon it's birth it is able to say "I" was born. In our ancestors history, AMEN which mean the hidden or concealed was represented by 0 or cipher. Because all things that physically exist in cipher or 0 came into being from it, it was the "motion of cipher or 0" that caused all things to manifest.

To illustate what I am saying, I will give you an alphabet and number chart to examine.

...a.......b.......c.......d........e.......f..... ..g.......h........i
...1.......2.......3.......4........5.......6..... .7.......8........9

..j.........K.......l.......m........n......o..... ..p.....q........r
10.....11.....12.....13.......14....15.....16..... 17....18

s.......t........u........v.........w.......x..... ..y......z
19....20......21.....22.......23.....24......25... .26......

If we examine the chart we will see that each number of the alphabet cancels out to the cardinal numbers in the top row.

According to the alphabets, r is the 18th letter. When we add 1+8 we will see that it adds up to 9 which is the same value as I.

A, J and S all equal 1. Remembering that zero has no value, we see that A=1, J=1 and S=1. D=4, M=4 and V=4.

According to the Gods and Earths the system works out this way

1=knowledge
2=wisdom
3=understanding
4=culture or freedom
5=power and refinement
6=equality
7=god
8=build and destroy
9=born

The system of our ancestors is

0=Amen
1=Ausar
2=Seker
3=Tehuti
4=maat
5=Herukuti
6=Heru
7=het-Heru
8=Sebek
9=Auset

Our ancestors math relates more closely to the math of the Gods and Earths if we do the math and if we know our history. In essence, there is no divine 10, for 10 does not exist since 0 has no numerical or place value. Even so, I explore and reveal much more in my forth coming book. Also 666 is not only the number of the devil but of man also and according to the formula our ancestors worked out, they tell you where the devil is and how to kill it. NOW THAT'S DIVINE MATHEMATICS!!!

JUST A TASTE...THE BOOK WILL BE OUT SOON ! :-)


Excellent post Keita

Aqil
01-28-2005, 05:35 PM
Who is your publisher?

queentswana
01-28-2005, 06:49 PM
My publisher will be Trafford in the beginning..after that, I will be in charge after they place my work on barnes and noble, amazon.com and books are us. the point is that you will be able to order from them or from me once it is out. after two rotations with Trafford, I will be able to go to the big boys to have it printed.

Aqil
02-08-2005, 12:32 PM
Back to the topic of my thread:

SPIRITUAL NUMEROLOGY

0 is the number of God. It has no beginning, no end. It may be joined but never allows penetration. All life comes from the zero...and will rejoin the zero, the sum total of life and death. The zero is the God-force - the number of God...(The word "zero" itself comes from the Arabic "cifr," from which the English word "cipher" is derived.)

1 is the number of man...it represents the First Cause. The zero has always been taken as the symbol of Eternity. Place the 1 and the 0 side by side and you get the most perfect number, representing God and man....

2 is the number of woman...

3 is the number of creation...

4 is the number of the Universe, representing the four quadrants of the Heavens. It is the number of Islam. It is the number of the square and the base of the pyramid. The number 4 also represents the complete cycle of life and death...beginning with (1) conception, (2) birth, (3) life and (4) death...

5 is the number of religion...the combination of woman (2) and creation (3)...

6 is the number of procreation, represented symbolically by the 6-point star, or the "Star of David." It symbolizes the male-female element coming together to generate the Cosmos. The upright triangle of the 6-point star represents the male element - the inverted triangle represents the female element. The word "sex" is derived from the six...

7 is the number of spirituality...

8 is the number of equilibrium...

9 is the number of Nature...

10 is the most perfect number; the number of God and man together...

PurpleMoons
02-08-2005, 02:31 PM
11) What about the number 11? According to this analogy, wouldn't 1 represent man by man? which could mean man by woman. Also the number 11 is considered to be symbolic for conciousness awakening. 1 by 1 also equals 2. 2 is the number of women. If you put the numbers in this manner, 1-0-1. You will have a negative and a positive 1. With 0 in the middle representing the before and after. Negative 1 is also represented as a feminine attribute and Positive is represented as a masculine attribute. Which would make the feminine before the masculine, and the creator the starting point for both.

12) Represents the 12 zodiacs, 12 months, 12 diciples. 1 plus 2 equals 3. 3 is the number of creation

If you look at the place of the 1 in ten. It represent the negative. The feminine attribute. There for making 10 not the perfect number. The perfect number would be 101. -1 -0- +1

Now don't yall be laughin at me! This is only my perception of the numbers!

Aqil
02-08-2005, 05:30 PM
What about the number 11?Beyond the number 9 all ordinary numbers become mere repetitions of the first 9. The number 10, which is a perfect number, actually becomes a repetition of the number 1; 11 repeats the number 2; 12 repeats as 3; 13 as 4, and so on up to 19, which becomes 1+9=10, and so again a repetition of 1. 20 represents 2, and so on ad infinitum. The numbers from 10 onward are called "compound numbers."

According to this analogy, wouldn't 1 represent man + man?...(which could mean man + woman).Not according to the above...

Also the number 11 is considered to be symbolic for conciousness awakening.According to occult numerologists this is an ominous number. It gives warning of hidden dangers, trial, and treachery from others. It has a symbol of a "clenched fist" and a "lion muzzled," and of a person who will have great difficulties to contend with...

1 + 1 also equals 2, and 2 is the number of woman. If you put the numbers in this manner, 1-0-1, You will have a negative and a positive 1, with 0 in the middle representing the before and after.What you have proffered here is the reason why the year zero was eventually intercalated into the Anno Domini dating systems. The first 1 representing BC, and the second representing AD...

Negative 1 is also represented as a feminine attribute and positive is represented as a masculine attribute, which would make the feminine before the masculine, and the Creator the starting point for both.Hmmmmmmm...an interesting analogy. However, the number 1 is neither positive or negative...it is the number of man. Pythagoras taught that 1 was the number of unity...

12 represents the 12 zodiac signs, the 12 months, the 12 disciples. 1 + 2 = 3...3 is the number of creation.This is correct.

If you look at the place of the 1 in ten. It represents the negative, the feminine attribute. Therefore making 10 not the perfect number. The perfect number would be 101 (-1, 0, +1).Numerologists only deal with positive integers...

Now don't y'all be laughin' at me! This is only my perception of the numbers!No one's laughing, Purple...you did very well...:)

PurpleMoons
02-08-2005, 06:19 PM
Beyond the number 9 all ordinary numbers become mere repetitions of the first 9. The number 10, which is a perfect number, actually becomes a repetition of the number 1; 11 repeats the number 2; 12 repeats as 3; 13 as 4, and so on up to 19, which becomes 1+9=10, and so again a repetition of 1. 20 represents 2, and so on ad infinitum. The numbers from 10 onward are called "compound numbers."

Thats true!

According to occult numerologists this is an ominous number. It gives warning of hidden dangers, trial, and treachery from others. It has a symbol of a "clenched fist" and a "lion muzzled," and of a person who will have great difficulties to contend with...

ohh! Metaphysic teaches the opposite. Which is said to be based on a geometric grid. Where can I find a picture of this symbol? Nevermind, I'll try to search it to see what I can pull up. Thanks! One do need to know these things.

What you have proffered here is the reason why the year zero was eventually intercalated into the Anno Domini dating systems. The first 1 representing BC, and the second representing AD...

Yes! I was thinking of the number grid.

Hmmmmmmm...an interesting analogy. However, the number 1 is neither positive or negative...it is the number of man. Pythagoras taught that 1 was the number of unity...

Hmmm! I wonder what he based his analogy on! I'll have to look into that as well. Thank you again!

Numerologists only deal with positive integers...

Why is that? When the creator is made up of both positive and negative energies.

No one's laughing, Purple...you did very well...:)

Phew! That is good to know! One can't be too sure when conversing with great scholars! :kickball:

The search is on! Thank you Brother Aqil!:luvv:

Aqil
02-08-2005, 08:50 PM
Numerologists only deal with positive integers.Why is that? When the Creator is made up of both positive and negative energies.The Creator created all energy...and you would have to use the minus sign when using negative natural integers...

Pythagoras taught that 1 was the number of unity...Hmmm! I wonder what he based his analogy on! I'll have to look into that as well. Thank you again!You're welcome. However, I misquoted Pythagoras. He said that unity, being indivisible, has no number...

Phew! That is good to know! One can't be too sure when conversing with great scholars!Well thank you Purple...I am humbled by your inaccurate description of me...:) I'm just a seeker of truth...

The search is on! Thank you Brother Aqil!You're quite welcome, Purple...and may Allah (swt) continue to send gales toward the windmills of your mind…

PurpleMoons
02-08-2005, 09:33 PM
Well thank you Purple...I am humbled by your inaccurate description of me... I'm just a seeker of truth...

LOL Heyyy! I know better than that! Scholars always seek for truth!:D

Aqil
04-14-2005, 02:18 PM
Here is more on 7, the number of spirituality...

Compare the size of the Earth to the size of a plant cell, which is a trillion times smaller:

Earth = 12.76 x 10 (to the +6 power) = 12,760,000 meters wide
(12.76 million meters)

plant cell = 12.76 x 10 (to the -6 power) = 0.00001276 meters wide
(12.76 millionths of a meter)

1+2+7+6 = 16, 1+6 = 7...

SAMURAI36
04-14-2005, 02:32 PM
SALAAM AQIL:

Do you think that it's more than coincidental, that the source that you quoted, matches Islamic and Kemetic Numerology almost precisely?

By the way, Pythag was the founder, creator or originator of nothing mathematically or scientifically.

PEACE

Aqil
04-16-2005, 06:31 AM
SALAAM AQIL:

Do you think that it's more than coincidental, that the source that you quoted, matches Islamic and Kemetic Numerology almost precisely?Salaam Samurai. No...I didn't know that.

By the way, Pythag was the founder, creator or originator of nothing mathematically or scientifically.

PEACEYes, I know...

Ma Salaam.

SAMURAI36
04-16-2005, 07:20 AM
True indeed.

PEACE AQIL.

Aqil
12-12-2005, 10:00 AM
Pythagoras supposedly discovered the amicable numbers, after having spent 22 years studying in Egypt. Asked what a friend was, Pythagoras replied “One who is the other I, such as 220 and 284.” Here is its interpretation: All the divisors of 220 (1,2,4,5,10,11,20,22,44,55,110) add up to 284, and all the divisors of 284 (1,2,4,71,142) add up to 220!

Aqil
02-16-2006, 08:43 AM
The Pythagorean theorem is one of the most famous in all of mathematics. It states:

The square of the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the legs.

Theorem: a² + b² = c²

Evidence of the theorem can be traced far back into Egyptian history with the help of the Rhind Papyrus (1788-1580 BC). The Rhind Papyrus itself claims to be a copy of an earlier work, possibly dating as far back as 2000 BC. The use of the 3-4-5 triangles (9+16=25) to construct perfect right angles, indeed seems to have been a very common practice, long ago.

Traditionally, however, in Western culture the theorem has been credited to Pythagoras. The little-known fact is that Pythagoras spent 22 years in the Egyptian Esoteric Schools of the Initiates. Consequently, classicists do not know if Pythagoras was actually responsible for the first proof or not.

There are many different proofs of the theorem, and we know that the Babylonians and Egyptians knew about this theorem about a thousand years before the time of Pythagoras (b. 572 BC). Nonetheless, a rigorous, general proof of the theorem requires the development of deductive geometry, and thus it is thought that Pythagoras probably supplied the first proof in Greece, thus the name "Pythagorean theorem."

Aqil
04-05-2006, 04:49 PM
Writing about mathematics in his book, The Ancient History, Charles Rollin said:

"Mathematics holds the first place among the sciences, because they alone are founded upon infallible demonstrations. And this undoubtedly gave them their name. For 'mathesis' in Greek signified 'science.' The ancient Egyptians are said to have invented it on account of the inundations of the Nile River. For that river carrying away the landmarks every year - and lessening some estates to enlarge others - the Egyptians were obliged to measure their country often, and for that purpose to contrive a method and art that was the origin and beginning of geometry. It passed from Egypt to Greece, and Thales of Miletus is believed to have carried it thither at his return from his travels."

For the avoidance of doubt, Sir J. G. Wilkinson adds in his book, The Ancient Egyptians: "I have also known that Herodotus and others ascribe the origin of geometry to the Egyptians, but the period when it commenced is uncertain. Anticledes pretends that Meoris was the first to lay down the elements of that science, which he says was perfected by Pythagoras; but the latter observation is merely the result of the vanity of the Greeks, which claimed for their countrymen (as in the case of Thales and other instances) the credit of enlightening a people on the very subject which they had visited Egypt for the purpose of studying."

The ancient Egyptians knew how to calculate the slope of a pyramid by using the trigometric lines - sine, cosine, tangent and cotangent - as shown in the Rhind Papyrus. It deals with the squaring of a circle of a diameter of 9 to that of a square with a side of 9. Cheikh Anta Diop illustrates this in detail in his book, Civilization or Barbarism on p.262. He goes on to show several other mathematical formulas the ancient Egyptians were keenly aware of using this papyrus. And remember Diop was an award-winning physicist, and he goes on to illustrate how the ancient Egyptians are the true inventors of the so-called Pythagorean theorem, and they obviously influenced Pythagoras by symbols in the hieroglyphics. For example, the Egyptians used a flowing water sign to represent the progression of numbers; the right angle to represent the "gnomon"; the even numbers by the equal sign of balance (=); the circle was used as the sign of the sun god Re; and the ankh cross for t-squares. Even Aristotle and Democritus stated that the Egyptian priests "heavily-guarded a lot of theoretical sciences behind the walls of the temples, and that mathematical proportions held some sort of "Divine Essence" in the Platonic and Pythagorean sense...

I-khan
04-05-2006, 05:09 PM
Numerology is one of my favorite subjects,how do you properly study such a thing?

SAMURAI36
04-05-2006, 05:15 PM
Numerology is one of my favorite subjects,how do you properly study such a thing?

I began my study of numerology with the Supreme Mathematics. Because that particular science was birthed from various systems (Islamic, Kemetic, Qabbalistic, I-Ching, etc), it was easy to branch out from there, and recognize the universality of the various sciences.

Most ancient and indigenous societies incorporated an esoteric aspect of numerology within their spiritual development. In fact, it was how entire societies were developed.

For me, the key for understanding numerology, was to not look at the number itself, but rather the property (be it scientific, metaphysical, or otherwise) that the number represented. It's also important to understand that the Divine Intellligence of the universe uses mathematical properties and equations to communicate.

For example, the number "2" seems to universally represent "WISDOM" in the various systems. Thus, when you are repeatedly presented with the number 2, then you are most likely being Divinely instructed to either seek the Wisdom of others, or to enhance your own.

PEACE

KWABENA
04-05-2006, 05:20 PM
The Pythagorean theorem is one of the most famous in all of mathematics. It states:

The square of the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the legs.

Theorem: a² + b² = c²

Evidence of the theorem can be traced far back into Egyptian history with the help of the Rhind Papyrus (1788-1580 BC). The Rhind Papyrus itself claims to be a copy of an earlier work, possibly dating as far back as 2000 BC. The use of the 3-4-5 triangles (9+16=25) to construct perfect right angles, indeed seems to have been a very common practice, long ago.

Traditionally, however, in Western culture the theorem has been credited to Pythagoras. The little-known fact is that Pythagoras spent 22 years in the Egyptian Esoteric Schools of the Initiates. Consequently, classicists do not know if Pythagoras was actually responsible for the first proof or not.

There are many different proofs of the theorem, and we know that the Babylonians and Egyptians knew about this theorem about a thousand years before the time of Pythagoras (b. 572 BC). Nonetheless, a rigorous, general proof of the theorem requires the development of deductive geometry, and thus it is thought that Pythagoras probably supplied the first proof in Greece, thus the name "Pythagorean theorem."


...I was about to say! Because it CLEARLY says in Stolen Legacy Pythagoras IS NOT RESPONSIBLE for the Pythagorean theorem.

Thanks for the Info Brother Aqil!

CD

I-khan
04-05-2006, 05:29 PM
I began my study of numerology with the Supreme Mathematics. Because that particular science was birthed from various systems (Islamic, Kemetic, Qabbalistic, I-Ching, etc), it was easy to branch out from there, and recognize the universality of the various sciences.

Most ancient and indigenous societies incorporated an esoteric aspect of numerology within their spiritual development. In fact, it was how entire societies were developed.

For me, the key for understanding numerology, was to not look at the number itself, but rather the property (be it scientific, metaphysical, or otherwise) that the number represented. It's also important to understand that the Divine Intellligence of the universe uses mathematical properties and equations to communicate.

For example, the number "2" seems to universally represent "WISDOM" in the various systems. Thus, when you are repeatedly presented with the number 2, then you are most likely being Divinely instructed to either seek the Wisdom of others, or to enhance your own.

PEACE
Thanks for the advice,by the way:

1) I still cannot get into your site and I sent you the e-mail :jawdrop:

2)Do you have any book recommendations for this particular subject.

3)If different cultures had numerology,is their a particular system that is better for study or should one gather all of the data pertaining to the subject all at once,or just study them all at various times?

SAMURAI36
04-05-2006, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the advice,by the way:

1) I still cannot get into your site and I sent you the e-mail :jawdrop:

Wow, please send it again for me, if you don't mind. When you send it, please send the User name you are trying to use, along with the password that you attempted to sign on with.

2)Do you have any book recommendations for this particular subject.

Let me see if I can dig something up......However, I'm more than certain that some of the members of my site will be able to assist you as well. :)

3)If different cultures had numerology,is their a particular system that is better for study or should one gather all of the data pertaining to the subject all at once,or just study them all at various times?

Good question: I would say study them all, but that could prove to be a bit overwhelming. Nearly every ancient people of color devised such a system. I would tell you to "take your pick", but I don't think your studies should be as haphazard as that. It should be.....Well, "mathematic" in intention (please forgive the bad pun).

That said, is there any culture or system that sticks out the most to you? If so, I would recommend going with that one first. If you are earnest in your studies, you'll find yourself being led to all the others anyways.

And, do not hesitate to ask questions.

PEACE

I-khan
04-05-2006, 05:52 PM
Not to bug you Samurai but I lost you e-mail.Can you give it to me if you do not mind?

SAMURAI36
04-05-2006, 08:38 PM
No worries:

SHAHIYM@HOTMAIL.COM

PEACE

uplift19
04-06-2006, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the advice,by the way:

1) I still cannot get into your site and I sent you the e-mail :jawdrop:
Me either...

SAMURAI36
04-07-2006, 09:40 AM
Both of you please send me an e-mail, stating your usernames and passwords, and I'll try to have it rectified by week's end.

PEACE, and thanx for your interest in my site. :)

uplift19
04-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Both of you please send me an e-mail, stating your usernames and passwords...already did...:fyi:

ru2religious
11-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Okay, lets do this like this my brother. I notice that you keep coming to this forum with something that the invader or the white man done wrote in his books without absolute authentication...as if they are spiritual people !! LOL

OUR ANCESTORS...LET ME SAY IT AGAIN..."OUR ANCESTORS NUMBER SYSTEM WAS NOT LIKE THAT".

The number system of our people went from 0 to 9 and no further. While it's true that the present numeral system we have is Arabic, that was not ours and as we know..."NO ONE ON THE EARTH HAS SURPASSED THE MATH OF OUR ANCESTORS". So lets begin this dance.

As I stated, according to our ancestors and the the natural cipher or what we call zero (0), no other numbers exist outside of 0 to 9. 0 or cipher is 360 degrees. zero has no numerical value...therefore when we add 3+6 we get 9, the number of completion. Which is why the 9th letter of the alphabet is "I".

A woman carries a baby 9 months and upon it's birth it is able to say "I" was born. In our ancestors history, AMEN which mean the hidden or concealed was represented by 0 or cipher. Because all things that physically exist in cipher or 0 came into being from it, it was the "motion of cipher or 0" that caused all things to manifest.

To illustate what I am saying, I will give you an alphabet and number chart to examine.

...a.......b.......c.......d........e.......f..... ..g.......h........i
...1.......2.......3.......4........5.......6..... .7.......8........9

..j.........K.......l.......m........n......o..... ..p.....q........r
10.....11.....12.....13.......14....15.....16..... 17....18

s.......t........u........v.........w.......x..... ..y......z
19....20......21.....22.......23.....24......25... .26......

If we examine the chart we will see that each number of the alphabet cancels out to the cardinal numbers in the top row.

According to the alphabets, r is the 18th letter. When we add 1+8 we will see that it adds up to 9 which is the same value as I.

A, J and S all equal 1. Remembering that zero has no value, we see that A=1, J=1 and S=1. D=4, M=4 and V=4.

According to the Gods and Earths the system works out this way

1=knowledge
2=wisdom
3=understanding
4=culture or freedom
5=power and refinement
6=equality
7=god
8=build and destroy
9=born

The system of our ancestors is

0=Amen
1=Ausar
2=Seker
3=Tehuti
4=maat
5=Herukuti
6=Heru
7=het-Heru
8=Sebek
9=Auset

Our ancestors math relates more closely to the math of the Gods and Earths if we do the math and if we know our history. In essence, there is no divine 10, for 10 does not exist since 0 has no numerical or place value. Even so, I explore and reveal much more in my forth coming book. Also 666 is not only the number of the devil but of man also and according to the formula our ancestors worked out, they tell you where the devil is and how to kill it. NOW THAT'S DIVINE MATHEMATICS!!!

JUST A TASTE...THE BOOK WILL BE OUT SOON ! :-)

Did this book ever come out? Haven't read through the rest of the link and I'm still doing so but thought I would ask just in case someone has info ... or even Keita can let me know ...

I would still like to purchase it ..

Peace and Blessings ...

Black People | Black | Black Chat | Black Poetry | Destee


Destee Copyright 2006 Black People