According to the Bible, God promises every human being 120 years of life. This extraordinary promise is recorded in Genesis 6:3, which reads as follows:

“And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh, yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.”

Most of us have been led to believe what is written in Psalm 90:10, i.e., “The days of our years are three-score and ten...” (70 years). But this verse is a prayer of Moses, whereas in Genesis 6:3, God is speaking...

Therefore, Genesis 6:3 exceeds Psalms 90:10 in terms of reference. This means that when God’s laws of eating and right living are obeyed, a human lifespan of 120 years is guaranteed...

Currently the Aboriginies(excuse the spelling) of Austraila live the closest to this lifespan....and they eat meat.

What is the source of your information?

Among others...Dr. Joel Wallach who has studied human lifespan and nutrition for 25 years.

I also have an aboriginal friend who currently has a great great grandmother living at the age of 109.

Secrets of Longevity From the World’s Longest-Living People Revealed

Western researchers unravel the mysteries of the people of Okinawa

By Ron Kennedy, M.D.

Among the most interesting of recent findings from Western longevity researchers are those based on studies in Okinawa, a small island about 430 miles northeast of Taiwan and home of some of the world’s oldest and healthiest people. These findings are documented in "The Okinawa Program," a massive scientific report that details why life expectancy on that small island is so long.

More centenarians live in Okinawa than any other place in the world: approximately 350% more than in the United States. The average life expectancy for Okinawan women is 86 years; for men, it is 78 years, a world record. It’s no accident: Researchers have found young-looking, clean arteries as well as healthy cholesterol, homocysteine, and blood pressure levels in these centenarians.

How do they do it? Perhaps the most important factor is diet. Green, leafy vegetables and high-protein foods such as fish are two staples of the Okinawan diet. These essential food groups contain an impressive array of prolongevity nutrients. Here's the link:

http://okinawaprogram.com/okinawa_program.html

Aqil
So...you so believe it is ok to eat fish or you don't? Make up your mind....lol

And.....Do these people in Okinawa follow these same laws of eating right and following God's law? That was the topic of the original thread...right?

Currently the Aboriginies of Australia live the closest to this lifespan...and they eat meat.The people of Okinawa are the longest-living people on the planet...not the Aboriginies...

And...do these people in Okinawa follow these same laws of eating right and following God's law? That was the topic of the original thread...right?They must...the proof is in the puddin'...the topic of my thread is, "God Promises 120 Years of Life in the Bible."

So...you so believe it is ok to eat fish or you don't? Make up your mind...lolDid I ever say it wasn't?

They must...the proof is in the puddin'...the topic of my thread is, "God Promises 120 Years of Life in the Bible."

Because they live long, does not mean they believe and/or practice the same faith that you feel is right....Do you even know if they believe in God?

"Did I ever say it wasn't?"

Uhhhh....yes. You said we should all be vegetarians because it is in accordance with God's law...did you not?

"The people of Okinawa are the longest-living people on the planet...not the Aboriginies... "

Even if this were true...which i'm not sure it is....it doesn't negate my point that the longest living people in the world eat meat! So how can you continue to hang on to this theory that we should be vegetarians if we want to live long and prosperous lives???

Okay, I know I'm stepping in the middle of an interesting debate between Aqil and Dre', but I have a question and it does pertain to the topic of this thread, but more specifically about the issue of debate.

In terms of lifespan...what is the average lifespan of a vegetarian, AND...

"God Promises 120 Years of Human Life in The Bible"...does that promise apply to EVERYONE regardless of their belief/religion, regardless of their diet?

Good questions Queen. I will have to defer to Aqil on this one because I do not know the answer to either.

They must...the proof is in the puddin'...the topic of my thread is, "God Promises 120 Years of Life in the Bible." Because they live long, does not mean they believe and/or practice the same faith that you feel is right....Do you even know if they believe in God?You seem nebulous in your flummoxed state, A007...faith has nothing to do with the fact that the people of Okinawa are the longest-living people in the world...

Uhhhh....yes. You said we should all be vegetarians because it is in accordance with God's law...did you not?No. I said Jesus was a vegetarian, and so was Daniel...

The people of Okinawa are the longest-living people on the planet...not the Aboriginies...Even if this were true...which i'm not sure it is....it doesn't negate my point that the longest living people in the world eat meat! So how can you continue to hang on to this theory that we should be vegetarians if we want to live long and prosperous lives??? I provided the link so that you can go find out for yourself...and I'm not "hanging on" to anything. Two of the strongest animals in the world are vegetarians...did you know that? The elephant and the gorilla...

Originally posted by NNQueen
In terms of lifespan...what is the average lifespan of a vegetarian, AND..."God Promises 120 Years of Human Life in The Bible"...does that promise apply to EVERYONE regardless of their belief/religion, regardless of their diet? (1) I don't know the average lifespan of a vegetarian, Queen...but it should be rather long though, wouldn't you think?

(2) It does if we obey God's laws of living and right eating, as found in the Old Testament.

Here's what Jesus said:

“God commanded your forefathers: ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill!’ But their hearts were hardened and they killed. Then Moses decided that at least they should not kill men, and he suffered them to kill beasts. And then the hearts of your forefathers were hardened yet more, and they killed men and beasts likewise.

But I say unto you: Kill neither men nor beasts, nor the food that goes into your mouth. For if you eat living food, the same will quicken you; but if you kill your food, the dead food will kill you also. For life comes only from life, and from death always comes death. For everything that kills your foods kills your bodies also. And everything that kills your bodies kills your soul also. And your bodies become what your foods are; even as your spirits, likewise, become what your thoughts are. Therefore eat not anything which fire, frost or water has destroyed. For burned, frozen and rotted foods will burn, freeze, and rot your body also.”

Jesus also admonishes us to:

“Seek not the law in your scriptures, for the law is life, whereas the scriptures is dead. For I tell you truly, Moses received not his laws in writing, but through the living word. The law is the living word of the living God to living prophets for living men.

In everything that is life the law is written. You find it in the grass, in the trees, in the rivers, in the mountains, in the birds of heaven, in the fish of the sea; but seek it chiefly in yourselves. For I tell you truly, all living things are nearer to God than the scripture – which is without life. God so-made life and all living things that they might – by the ever-living word – teach the laws of the one true God to man. God wrote not the laws in the pages of books, but in your heart and in your spirit.”

Thank you.....you seem to keep making my points for me. Once you get confused and do not have some other person's words to use...you lose the ability to follow the point. The point of my statement was "just becasue Okinawins or whomever else live long lives, does not mean that they are living by God's laws of right living and eating or that they even believe in God." your response was
"You seem nebulous in your flummoxed state, A007...faith has nothing to do with the fact that the people of Okinawa are the longest-living people in the world..." you know what......I agree with you totally...for once.

Now... why is it that you are the only person handing out insults? Have I insulted you because you have taken positions on issues based on what you have read, and can not explain them when a question is asked that hasn't been covered in your readings?

You have copied quotes from previous posts more than once in an effort to answer difficult questions. They have been less than adaquate responses yet I continue to play along because I am truly learning. Just because I don't agree with you about us having to be vegetarians to live right lives...does not mean that I am not learning a few things...which is always my focus...not to win an insignifigant debate (or arguement, since you have added insults). Because when it comes right down to it, weather I eat meat or not...weather I learn all of this ancient scripture or not...weather I agree with "Bible Scholars" or not...I am still a Christian whom has faith that I am serving God,...and regardless of what you or anyone else THINKS...(because you don't KNOW) I am going to heaven and I will be a light for others to do the same.

Now...if you would like to continue debates like civilized, mature, postitve men...I am more than willing, but I will not stoop to insults and arguing over nothing.

as always...
peace and luv
Dre'

" Uhhhh....yes. You said we should all be vegetarians because it is in accordance with God's law...did you not?"

No. I said Jesus was a vegetarian, and so was Daniel...

Sooooo....do you believe we should be vegetarians or not???

Listen, A007...I don't insult...I said you seem nebulous in your flummoxed state...meaning confused. That's not an insult...it's my impression of several of your posts here...

Of course I quote my threads and posts...that's where the answers to your questions are. And if you read them, you wouldn't have to continue asking me so many frivlolous questions. And believe me, your questions are far from difficult...as you claim they are.

Btw, the word is "whether," not "weather."

And to answer your last question...why suuuuuurrrrre!!!! It's a great way of life. I love it...been away from dead food for years now...wouldn't have it ANY other way.

Read what Jesus said again and keep trackin' A007.

A007:

All food, according to Islamic law, should be “halal,” i.e., allowed by the law, and “tayyib,” i.e., good, pure, wholesome and agreeable. Under the latter condition sometimes even lawful things become forbidden. For example, if a Muslim contracts colon cancer (caused by animal flesh putrefying in the colon), or if a Muslim sister contracts vaginal cancer from consuming excessive amounts of beef (check recent nutrition reports on the effect of beef consumption in the U.S.), then that beef – though lawful – becomes forbidden...
It is impossible for a vegetarian to contract colon cancer, because vegetables, fruits and grains pass through the colon. Animal flesh lodges in the walls of the colon and putrefies (rots), thus causing cancer of the colon...

There have also been many reports of diseased fish being caught with cancerous gills that are cut out and then sent to market to be sold. These are the reasons why a Muslim vegetarian abstains from not only the forbidden, but even that which is lawful...

"Mediocre minds usually dismiss anything that reaches beyond their own understanding..." insult

The remark about not being able to make men think....insult

Me being in a vague cunfused state...thinly veiled insult

I agree with you that my questions are not difficult ...so...why can't you answer them in your own words rather than the words of others?

I asked what does Christian refer to...no answer.

I asked why did Jesus help fisherman fish....i got a reference to fish being added to the Bible by greeks and it was probably fishweed....So are you telling me that Simon was not a fisherman?

Thanks for the correction on wheather!

And the reason I don't offer much proof is because most of my debate is asking questions about the holes in these "Biblical Scholors" theories(and they are just theories) with the balance being MY OWN WORDS AND THOUGHTS...which seems to be the only thought taking place because all you are doing is regurgitating information.

"People confuse being well read and educated with being enlightend" Muhammad Ali

"Wisdom is not knowing everything, it is knowing that you never will" JFK

"The first requirement for an good theory is that the theory fits the facts."

(Oliver Wendell Holmes)

And I submit to you, my brother, that the theories that I proffer here fits the facts...

Aqil,
good topic :toast:

but can you show me direct scripture and and biblical reference(s) where Jesus admonishes (as you put it) us to not kill and /or eat certain foods??

Theory-- A hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation: Supposition, Conjecture : abstract thought: speculation...

The assumption that these THEORIES are based in some fact (because it is an assumption that they are facts) does not mean that the THEORY itself should be held as fact; regardless of how many people agree that it COULD have happened a certain way.

I submit to you, my brother that you did not address my last post...

"Mediocre minds usually dismiss anything that reaches beyond their own understanding..." insult

The remark about not being able to make men think....insult

Me being in a vague cunfused state...thinly veiled insult

I agree with you that my questions are not difficult ...so...why can't you answer them in your own words rather than the words of others?

I asked" What does Christian refer to?"...no answer.

I asked "Why did Jesus help fisherman fish?"....i got a reference to fish being added to the Bible by greeks and it was probably fishweed....So are you telling me that Simon was not a fisherman?

Thanks for the correction on wheather!

And the reason I don't offer much proof is because most of my debate is asking questions about the holes in these "Biblical Scholors" theories(and they are just theories) with the balance being MY OWN WORDS AND THOUGHTS...which seems to be the only thought taking place because all you are doing is regurgitating information.

"People confuse being well read and educated with being enlightend" Muhammad Ali

"Wisdom is not knowing everything, it is knowing that you never will" JFK

Theory - A hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation: Supposition, Conjecture : abstract thought: speculation...

The assumption that these THEORIES are based in some fact (because it is an assumption that they are facts) does not mean that the THEORY itself should be held as fact; regardless of how many people agree that it COULD have happened a certain way.Here is the quote again: "The first requirement for an good theory is that the theory fits the facts." (Oliver Wendell Holmes)

I submit to you, my brother that you did not address my last post...

"Mediocre minds usually dismiss anything that reaches beyond their own understanding..." insult

The remark about not being able to make men think....insult

Me being in a vague, confused state...thinly-veiled insult I am sorry if you were offended by my remarks, but my intentions were not to insult you...

I agree with you that my questions are not difficult...so why can't you answer them in your own words rather than the words of others? What difference does it make as long as you get an answer?

I asked, "What does Christian refer to?"...no answer.I gave you MY answer, don't you remember? Here it is again:

Becoming a Christian does not refer to a belief that a certain man was killed by a mob in order that our sins might be forgiven. In fact, that is utter nonsense, for it would make null and void the law of cause and effect, and contradict – point blank – the Biblical declaration that “we must work out our own salvation.”

Being a Christian refers to one who believes that Jesus Christ is the son of God...however, there were no such thing as Christians during Jesus' lifetime...

I asked "Why did Jesus help fisherman fish?"...I got a reference to fish being added to the Bible by Greeks and it was probably fishweed...So are you telling me that Simon was not a fisherman?I am familiar with Simon the Zealot...he was African. I wasn't aware of his occupation...

And the reason I don't offer much proof is because most of my debate is asking questions about the holes in these "Biblical Scholars'" theories (and they are just theories) with the balance being MY OWN WORDS AND THOUGHTS...which seems to be the only thought taking place because all you are doing is regurgitating information.I regurgitate information; you regurgitate non-informational vacuous sophistry...

"People confuse being well-read and educated with being enlightened" (Muhammad Ali)

"Wisdom is not knowing everything; it is knowing that you never will" (JFK) Great quotes, A007...thank you.

Here is the quote again: "The first requirement for an good theory is that the theory fits the facts." (Oliver Wendell Holmes)

So you admit that these are theories(specultion)?...so why do yo try to pawn them off as fact?

"What difference does it make as long as you get an answer?"

It makes a difference because I would like to have a discussion with YOU not the books you've read. And because some of your answers are not directly related to my questions.

“And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh, yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.” (Genesis 6:3)

Remember that once there were no death until the making of the caucasian in the garden. My book Black power and the unveilation of the bible will explain all, it is due out this year 2005. Reveilation reveil much and so it is time for secrets to be unveil. Also see www.pyramidoftruth.com and www.themysteryoflife.com and http://www.live365.com/stations/nebtawi?play>Click Also we are in the plan of building the African School in New york and A Temple of Amun-Ra. Donations can be sent to:
PYRAMID OF TRUTH
P.O. BOX 272577
BOCA RATON FL 33427-22577

WE ARE SITUATED IN FLORIDA
BUT OUR BUILDING OF THE SCHOOL
AND TEMPLE WILL BE IN PROGRESSIVE
NEW YORK, HARLEM

Remember that once there were no death until the making of the caucasian in the garden. My book Black power and the unveilation of the bible will explain all, it is due out this year 2005. Reveilation reveil much and so it is time for secrets to be unveil. Also see www.pyramidoftruth.com and www.themysteryoflife.com and http://www.live365.com/stations/nebtawi?play>Click Also we are in the plan of building the African School in New york and A Temple of Amun-Ra. Donations can be sent to:
PYRAMID OF TRUTH
P.O. BOX 272577
BOCA RATON FL 33427-22577

WE ARE SITUATED IN FLORIDA
BUT OUR BUILDING OF THE SCHOOL
AND TEMPLE WILL BE IN PROGRESSIVE
NEW YORK, HARLEM

HOTEPU NEBANKH:

Can you tell me more about your organization? And the teachings behind it?

PEACE

www.themysteryoflife.com




Interesting web site.....

Back to the topic of my thread:

God Promises 120 Years of Human Life in The Bible

According to the Bible, God promises every human being 120 years of life. This extraordinary promise is recorded in Genesis 6:3, which reads as follows:

“And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh, yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.”

Most of us have been led to believe what is written in Psalms 90:10, i.e., “The days of our years are three-score and ten...” (70 years). But this verse is a prayer of Moses, whereas in Genesis 6:3, God is speaking...

Therefore, Genesis 6:3 exceeds Psalms 90:10 in terms of reference. This means that when God’s laws of eating and right living are obeyed, a human lifespan of 120 years is guaranteed...