Did you know....?

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies:
Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.htl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight
of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are
brothers.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign
organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He
became Senator in a surprise upset, with votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush
family,was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's
vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

8. Kenneth Blackwell (a black man) co-chaired George Bush's Ohio election
campaign.
As Ohio secretary of state, he left no stone unturned to suppress the democratic vote.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/113004Y.shtml#1
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/894
http://67.15.90.110/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1414219

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of
any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data
coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines,
all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

11. Exit polls are usually excellent predictors of election results.
Reputable analyses could not find an explanation of the discrepancy
Between exit polls and results of the 2004 presidential election.
http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/23/international/europe/23ukraine.html?ex=1102245800&ei=1&en=3a3c24b7e64fe49

12. A Diebold subsidiary employed 5 convicted felons as senior
managers and developers. These people helped write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

13. Jeff Dean, senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code,
was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how


14. Jeff Dean was served jail time for planting back doors in his
client's accounting software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the
polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the
security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked,a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here with the chimphttp://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

17. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected
and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950
{url]http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm

18. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring
Bush --have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm
[url]http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html[url]
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.htmlhttp://uscountvotes.org/

19. In sworn affidavit, programmer says he developed vote-rigging
prototype for Florida congressman; Congressman's office silent (By
John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor)
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=477
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/061204voterigging.htm
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Suppose they find conclusive evidence that Bush fixed the election. What then? Will they impeach him? Will the Supreme Court step in again to save him? Will the war end?

Suppose they find conclusive evidence that Bush fixed the election. What then? Will they impeach him? Will the Supreme Court step in again to save him? Will the war end?

Jamesfromphilly I also read this on another forum. it was either www.************* or www.*****************

River the evidence is crystal clear, but remember the supreme court selected him last time and now, the supreme court is leaning more towards fascism, now more than ever before, so there in no relief coming from the supreme court. :time:

Jamesfromphilly I also read this on another forum. it was either www.************* or www.*****************

River the evidence is crystal clear, but remember the supreme court selected him last time and now, the supreme court is leaning more towards fascism, now more than ever before, so there in no relief coming from the supreme court. :time:
The irony is Bush's supporters would have us think he is fighting for democracy.Think about it, what does anyone but the autocrat himself gain from fascism unless he is just a puppet--a front man for those who are really in power?

River the evidence is crystal clear,

So true my brother, so true! :bazooka:

yes i read about diebold last year. the sad part is the media doesnt even question this info. :help:

yes i read about diebold last year. the sad part is the media doesnt even question this info. :help:
You mean you still believe in a free press???????

You mean you still believe in a free press???????

River remember that "vote or die" crap after reading this do you think the promoters of that crap knew? :poop: Oh yea I believe in a free press. they are free to press what ever they like be it truth or lies, actually the western media news agencies are nothing more than macro commericials for multinational corps. like IBM, Halburton, Rand etc. :bullseye:

River remember that "vote or die" crap after reading this do you think the promoters of that crap knew? :poop: Oh yea I believe in a free press. they are free to press what ever they like be it truth or lies, actually the western media news agencies are nothing more than macro commericials for multinational corps. like IBM, Halburton, Rand etc. :bullseye:
That's the Golden Rule--He who has the gold makes the rules. Thia ian't new or something somebody just came up with fifty years ago. The same media that lies to us today told us that negroes were only three fifths human two hundred years ago.

James

Thanks for posting, and bringing forward the links.


None of this surprises me.
If any of you want to learn the nations pulse. This same info was talked about when we had our elections here in Cali. Arnold won the election here, passed and had all his success on the same system.

Listen to the nightly archives at

http://www.kgoam810.com/listingsEntry.asp?ID=263588&PT=Archives

www.kgo.com Monday thru Fridays

Folks call in from all over the world, who listen on te internet. With the news happening all around the United States. The 1AM to 5AM news is the hottest.

I knew and heard talk about these very things. Many in congress and the media knew. Months before the election. That Diebold promised Bush he would win. That they would guarantee him that.

Nothing will be done, and we all know it was fixed. The bible thumpers hate blacks so much, they cut off their own nose to spite their face. They too will be eaten by the DUBYA beast.

They promised the machines would be fixed, the right way, and have paper trails by 2006. In time for another Congressional election. RIGHT!

One thing this has solidified. The elections have really become a real catch 22.

Dammed if you do vote. Because they can rig the machine. Dammed if you don’t. Because the opposition will win if you stay at home. They don’t want you to vote. Life and control gets easier for them.

Thanks for the informative info James.

You mean you still believe in a free press???????

no just pointing the fakeness