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kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 05:10 PM
It's becoming more and more common for people to seek the advice of a Psychiatrist. I don't know about you, but I would feel funny paying a complete stranger to tell me.....about me. What do you think? Has anyone had any experience seeing a Psychiatrist and why did you go? What were the benefits and what did you get out of it? How do you know that you need to seek the help from a Psychiatrist? :insane:

Ok, If you haven't been to one or you don't want to admit it, would you consider going to one if you thought you needed it? Have you known someone that has had an experience with one? Do you think it shameful to seek help from one? Any opinions? ;)

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 05:14 PM
It's becoming more and more common for people to seek the advice of a Psychiatrist. I don't know about you, but I would feel funny paying a complete stranger to tell me.....about me. What do you think? Has anyone had any experience seeing a Psychiatrist and why did you go? What were the benefits and what did you get out of it? How do you know that you need to seek the help from a Psychiatrist? :insane:



Good Luck with this Thread!!!!!!!

kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 05:20 PM
Good Luck with this Thread!!!!!!!

Why, no one sees a Psychiatrist? I keep hearing people talk about having appointments to talk to one and things like that. I'm wondering if it's as common as it seems.

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 05:29 PM
Why, no one sees a Psychiatrist? I keep hearing people talk about having appointments to talk to one and things like that. I'm wondering if it's as common as it seems.



Noo thats not it. Do you honestly think that some of these Brothas' and Sistas' are gonna ADMIT that they seen a Psychiatrist?. Most People see it as embarrassing, I don't. And Honestly, If I had ever been to a Psychiatrist, I would tell you- I'm not ashamed of saying that I had received help from a professional Stranger........But think about it, on a daily Basis our Brothas' and Sistas' ask us for our insight on their personal Problems. We render our services to them, doling out help in their time of need- so actually, WE are all, in our own way, Psychiatrists!. Are we not Strangers?........

We both know that some of "US" needs to see one....I ain't gon' say no names.......I'm one ov' em tho'...LOL

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 05:38 PM
I will be rendered Speechless if someone DOES reply!!!. I can't wait!....

kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 05:40 PM
Noo thats not it. Do you honestly think that some of these Brothas' and Sistas' are gonna ADMIT that they seen a Psychiatrist?. Most People see it as embarrassing, I don't. And Honestly, If I had ever been to a Psychiatrist, I would tell you- I'm not ashamed of saying that I had received help from a professional Stranger........But think about it, on a daily Basis our Brothas' and Sistas' ask us for our insight on their personal Problems. We render our services to them, doling out help in their time of need- so actually, WE are all, in our own way, Psychiatrists!. Are we not Strangers?........

We both know that some of "US" needs to see one....I ain't gon' say no names.......I'm one ov' em tho'...LOL

I see what you're saying, but you said you'd tell and if I ever saw one I'd tell.....so some people might be comfortable telling. I mean, people go to Psychiatrist for different reasons. It's not always because they got molested or raped or anything. I think there are issues that everyday people have that might make them see one. I don't think it's embarassing, but I would like to know if it's as common as it seems. Even marriage counselors. They're along the same lines and if it's a beneficial thing to do in a crisis, some people might want to let others know that it's not as embarassing as some people might think it is.

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 05:52 PM
I see what you're saying, but you said you'd tell and if I ever saw one I'd tell.....so some people might be comfortable telling. I mean, people go to Psychiatrist for different reasons. It's not always because they got molested or raped or anything. I think there are issues that everyday people have that might make them see one. I don't think it's embarassing, but I would like to know if it's as common as it seems. Even marriage counselors. They're along the same lines and if it's a beneficial thing to do in a crisis, some people might want to let others know that it's not as embarassing as some people might think it is.



Yup! That's ALL true. I wish that I can say that I HAVE seen one but, well, you know. And of course it's not ALL about past molestation/rape cases, what about those of us who have had other Traumatic Experiances aside from the ones mentioned above?. Hmm.....

Hey Kente, what is the difference between a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist?
I know for a fact that a Psychiatrist can prescribe Perscriptions whereas a Psychologist can only offer either a referral or verbal advice along with Mental Counseling- am I right thus Far?

kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 05:55 PM
Hey Kente, what is the difference between a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist?
I know for a fact that a Psychiatrist can prescribe Perscriptions whereas a Psychologist can only offer either a referral or verbal advice along with Mental Counseling- am I right thus Far?

Good question....wish I could answer it in my own words.

Check this out http://www.ottawa-psychologists.com/faq1.htm

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 05:59 PM
Good question....wish I could answer it in my own words.

Check this out http://www.ottawa-psychologists.com/faq1.htm

On the Contrary!. Thank Ya' Kindly!. Soo, you mean to tell me that you wouldn't see a Psychiatrist if need be?

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 06:02 PM
Man Kente', I'm bored, I think I'm gonna go watch The Chappelle Show Clips........

kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 06:05 PM
On the Contrary!. Thank Ya' Kindly!. Soo, you mean to tell me that you wouldn't see a Psychiatrist if need be?

How would anyone know if they needed to see one? That's why I wanted someone with experience seeing one to reply, but I guess you are right....no one wants anyone to know that they are wacko. If I thought I needed one I would maybe try it out, but I don't see how someone that doesn't know me can tell me....about me. It's weird to me.

CarrieMonet
12-14-2004, 06:16 PM
I don't really get the point of seeing a head doctor. For the most part the sessions involve the patient talking and the doctor listening. They never tell you anything or give advice, they simply ask YOU why you think the way you do.

I remember my best friend went to a shrink after she had her second child, her doctor thought she was suffering from post-partum depression and referred her to get help. After the 3rd session with the shrink my friend told me that she was starting to feel crazy since she was doing all the talking and the lady just sits there taking notes. She also said that when the time was up, the lady would cut her off and kick her out. LMAO! Now that's nuts!

So in essence...you'd be better off talking to someone you trust who will listen to you. I think black folks are the last to consult a shrink...most are more likely to talk with church leaders or older family members. I know I wouldn't go to a shrink...I think it would be a waste of time and money...especially since I have some WISE and TRUSTWORTHY close friends.

kente417mojo
12-14-2004, 06:20 PM
So in essence...you'd be better off talking to someone you trust who will listen to you.

Yeah, see at least a family member or a close friend knows you. The doctor doesn't and he/ she is telling you what's going on in your head? Your mom, dad, sister or brother will tell you the truth because the actually love you and care about you. The doctor just wants that cash, so they probably just make sure you keep talking until the session is up.

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 06:22 PM
How would anyone know if they needed to see one? That's why I wanted someone with experience seeing one to reply, but I guess you are right....no one wants anyone to know that they are wacko. If I thought I needed one I would maybe try it out, but I don't see how someone that doesn't know me can tell me....about me. It's weird to me.


See, this is the thing. A complete Stranger COULD actually tell you about YOU because of the fact that they are on the outside looking in. They see what you MAY be trying to hide. For instance, say if I grew up without my Dad in the picture for most of my life, then, I wondered why I was either promiscuous or had to have the affection or adoration of a Man. A Psychiatrist/Psychologist would look into my past thru my memories and tell me why I felt this way. They would put Two and Two together and rule out The very reason why I had to have the attention of a Man. It would be because for the majority part of my life, my Dad wasn't around. Am I loosing you?
Psy's anwswers the questions that we may internally ask ourselves.

Believe it or not,just by your Postings alone, I can tell what kind of person you are Kente'. I'm on the outside looking in.....(let me stop, I sound like a stalker!!)

CarrieMonet
12-14-2004, 06:26 PM
All I know is I work in a department with a lot of psych-social workers....and I swear they are more nutty than the patients. There is no way I'd trust my sanity with them.

The other side to that is...I can't imagine taking drugs (prozac and the like) to feel good about myself. Seems like the head docs are quick to give you "feel good" medicine which can't possibly make your problems/issues go away. Maybe that stuff is really needed by some but it seems like a lot of my co-workers (white folks) take that stuff like vitamins and I still view them as CRAZY...so it isn't working. LMAO! All of them are depressed and see shrinks and then go up to the floors to give advice to patients, what kind of mess is that?

1hotvirgowoman
12-14-2004, 06:27 PM
undefined[/COLOR][QUOTE=CarrieMonet][COLOR=Navy][SIZE=4][FONT=Garamond]I don't really get the point of seeing a head doctor. For the most part the sessions involve the patient talking and the doctor listening. They never tell you anything or give advice, they simply ask YOU why you think the way you do.

I remember my best friend went to a shrink after she had her second child, her doctor thought she was suffering from post-partum depression and referred her to get help. After the 3rd session with the shrink my friend told me that she was starting to feel crazy since she was doing all the talking and the lady just sits there taking notes. She also said that when the time was up, the lady would cut her off and kick her out. LMAO! Now that's nuts!




Well then most likely, she had the wrong Woman for the Job!. I am almost certain that ALL Shrinks are not the same. Some are ACTUALLY concerned for your well being. If I was your friend, I would have left after the first session- that Lady was just too unprofessional.

jamesfrmphilly
12-14-2004, 07:53 PM
i have had extensive psycho therapy and i don't have a problem saying so and i have done that several times.
so, if you want to speak with a person who has had personal restructuring, that would be me.

it's very simple.

anything that would be helpful and promote growth, Negroes find a way to avoid.
anything that is destructive and will bring everybody down becomes the new fad.
therefore, Negroes run from therapy while embracing every form of dysfunctional behavior under the sun.

let me ask you this, if you had a gunshot wound to the torso would you have a problem with letting a stranger look at it? in the ER?
or would you go see pookie on the block?

there's bad therapists out there just like there's bad surgeons.
don't stop Negroes from sitting in that ER.

$$RICH$$
12-15-2004, 01:32 AM
I don't see where anyone need to see one ......That's why we have parents // family
and close friends to talk to or express our feelings / problems with i can't see a
psychiatrist helping or rooting out the problem or even solving it .......NO i wouldn't
never go to see one if i was wacko ! i think the best place is in a mental hosp.

jamesfrmphilly
12-15-2004, 08:38 AM
.....i think the best place is in a mental hosp.
and just who do you think you'll find there?

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 01:42 PM
I don't see where anyone need to see one ......That's why we have parents // family
and close friends to talk to or express our feelings / problems with i can't see a
psychiatrist helping or rooting out the problem or even solving it .......NO i wouldn't
never go to see one if i was wacko ! i think the best place is in a mental hosp.


But What happens when THEY may be the Cause of your Problems?. A shrink can sort out your feelings AND tell you why you may feel that way.

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 01:44 PM
i have had extensive psycho therapy and i don't have a problem saying so and i have done that several times.
so, if you want to speak with a person who has had personal restructuring, that would be me.

it's very simple.

anything that would be helpful and promote growth, Negroes find a way to avoid.
anything that is destructive and will bring everybody down becomes the new fad.
therefore, Negroes run from therapy while embracing every form of dysfunctional behavior under the sun.

let me ask you this, if you had a gunshot wound to the torso would you have a problem with letting a stranger look at it? in the ER?
or would you go see pookie on the block?

there's bad therapists out there just like there's bad surgeons.
don't stop Negroes from sitting in that ER.



You have made some very valid points James!.

kente417mojo
12-15-2004, 02:07 PM
I don't think it's a matter of NEGROES not wanting help, I think it's a trust factor. It's the same thing with say.....Psychics or people that read the stars to tell you about yourself and your future. Some people believe in them...and some don't. Just because someone says they can do something...doesn't mean they can. I think that it would help some people and not others. I'm not saying that Psychiatrist can't help..because I've never been to one, but what helps one person may not help another.

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 02:08 PM
See, I think that seeing a Psy' is would actually do us a whole lotta' good!. Sometimes, going to Ones' Family members and Friends are not Always the solution. Certain Problems calls for Certain People.

jamesfrmphilly
12-15-2004, 02:09 PM
I don't think it's a matter of NEGROES not wanting help, I think it's a trust factor. It's the same thing with say.....Psychics or people that read the stars to tell you about yourself and your future. Some people believe in them...and some don't. Just because someone says they can do something...doesn't mean they can. I think that it would help some people and not others. I'm not saying that Psychiatrist can't help..because I've never been to one, but what helps one person may not help another.
so, if you had that gunshot wound, you would go to the local shaman?

kente417mojo
12-15-2004, 02:21 PM
so, if you had that gunshot wound, you would go to the local shaman?

No, I would go to the doctor, but that's because I TRUST a doctor with a gunshot would. I don't necessarily trust a doctor screwing around with my brain and trying to tell me why I do certain things and feel a certain way.

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 02:25 PM
No, I would go to the doctor, but that's because I TRUST a doctor with a gunshot would. I don't necessarily trust a doctor screwing around with my brain and trying to tell me why I do certain things and feel a certain way.



But yet you'd trust a Doctor with a Scapel?.

$$RICH$$
12-15-2004, 02:29 PM
a srink can't help what you already know .....it's common sense you can root out your
own problem if you that far gone in the head you don't need a srink you need to be in a
mental hosp.
no way can one solve my problem if so then they need to just flip there wallet out
until then nothing can be done these are facts . word up !

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=$$RICH$$]a srink can't help what you already know .....it's common sense you can root out your


True, true..... But what about those times when you won't admit to yourself your problem. Maybe you just need to hear it from someone else sometimes.

kente417mojo
12-15-2004, 02:39 PM
But yet you'd trust a Doctor with a Scapel?.


Yes, I do.

There is a difference. If I have a sharp pain in my chest I can't sit back and say "Hmmmmm, I think that's a clogged artery". If I am stressed out and unhappy I can sit back and say "Maybe I'm working too much" or "My relationship is not too good right now, I need to address this" or "Maybe I need a vacation". There is a difference.

jamesfrmphilly
12-15-2004, 02:42 PM
black folks heads have been messed up by the system.

we need to get ourselves straight.

there is a profession that is devoted to helping do that type of thing.
if we refuse to establish a basis of trust to those who could help us where does that leave us?
with pookie down the block?

therapy worked for me.
do i present as some one with mental problems?

if we don't find a way to utilize this resource what will we do?

i have seen too many people sit and complain.
you come back ten years later and they are still sitting in the same spot and complaining.

it is easy to find fault.
it is far harder to find a way up.
it is harder still to put your own feet on the road less traveled and take a step.

1hotvirgowoman
12-15-2004, 02:47 PM
therapy worked for me.
do i present as some one with mental problems?



James,I'm not even gon' answer THAT question!

$$RICH$$
12-15-2004, 05:44 PM
when you can't see it within and need help this what a mate or wife or good friends for
to give insight to what you can't see .........No srinks sista forget they can't help you
but they can break you ! seek help within the family or friendz your mate / man / husband
a nother sista close to you but a PSYCHIATRIST will not know the answer

jamesfrmphilly
12-15-2004, 06:15 PM
when you can't see it within and need help this what a mate or wife or good friends for
to give insight to what you can't see .........No srinks sista forget they can't help you
but they can break you ! seek help within the family or friendz your mate / man / husband
a nother sista close to you but a PSYCHIATRIST will not know the answer
this is exactly 100% wrong.

$$RICH$$
12-15-2004, 06:29 PM
i think 100% correct you can visit one not me i don't see a need each own brutha
o' well you can get one i'll fine the answer within my family or mate maybe a good friend
but i don't need to see a srink so maybe your finding is 100% wrong


what makes it so wrong James ????
what is the correct to perfection ????
what makes a srink know my problem ????

answer these brutha .

jamesfrmphilly
12-15-2004, 06:44 PM
what makes it so wrong James ????
what is the correct to perfection ????
what makes a shrink know my problem ????

if family and friends could resolve neuroses, why does the black community suffer from so much mental illness?
the therapist will know your problem because you will tell them what it is.
he will know how to help you because he has been trained to do that.
a surgeon is trained, so is a therapist.

you are saying the entire mental health profession is bogus.
you are wrong.

Pharaoh Jahil
12-15-2004, 06:53 PM
I'll feel more comfortable telling my problems to someone I actually know rather then PAYING a STRANGER to tell me about me. Besides I already have a therapist, I call him GOD!

watzinaname
12-15-2004, 07:52 PM
This is my take on this. Therapists exist to assist us when the help of family, friends, and/or other significant others have failed, and you don't want the problem to get so bad that you have to be admitted to a psychiatric ward. There are bogus therapists, there are those who may not be able to help with one particular problem, but may have a great track record with others. Definitely the type of professional that one has to do extensive research on, for sure. I have met some people who therapy has worked wonders for. I suppose it's just a matter of choosing the one that is right for you, should the need arise.

$$RICH$$
12-16-2004, 03:03 AM
not blasting it just not a one can help me that all i speak for me and me only
each it's own i don't see the need to tell them any thing because i feel and know
they can't solve it so guess what u wrong ....lol

if i can sit and tell them my problem then i can sit and tell my family and surely goodness
will come from it I don't believe in them is my point

Watz that maybe true but it's not for me at no point in life i don't believe they can help me
do anything for me and i won't pay a dime to fine out ....I have family and friendz i can
talk too, turn too, and get the help i would need if it did arise
they only tell you what you already know so where the help in that , I guess those who
believe feel it works to those who don't see anything from it every body has there own
way of seeing it good luck to those who will allow a person to tell them about them
and yet know nothing about them .

atomicangel
12-17-2004, 02:18 PM
I wouldn't mind telling a psychiatrist my problems. For me, i think that sometimes it's better for me to tell a stranger my business rather than someone i know. It's not because i don't trust them, it's just sometimes i have a fear of what people might think of me. For example, if, let's say, you wanted to be a porn star, and you told your close friend. If they disagree with you, then they may criticise you or make you feel embarrassed. At least, with a psychiatrist, you can tell them things without being scared of what they may think of you. and because they're not your friends or family, you don't really care as much about their opinions anyway. at the end of the day, you pay them to help you, not criticise you.

NNQueen
12-17-2004, 04:02 PM
Therapy ....with the right professional...can be good for what ails you. When a person finds themselve overwhelmed with issues and can't figure them out themselves, then I don't have a problem with seeking therapy.

Psychiatrists...if a person has an extreme mental condition and need prescribed drugs to function in ways where they aren't harmful/dangerous to themselves or others....then seek help.

Therapy...in the natural sense....meditation...doing things that bring joy in your life....are important and can bring about far better treatment than professionals at times. But still, when all else fails, why go down with the ship by having too much pride to ask for help, when you can keep the boat afloat and cruising smoothly if you did?

Nothing wrong with it in my opinion.

Queenie :spinstar:

jamesfrmphilly
12-18-2004, 08:26 PM
FWIW - the episode of the TV show "JAG" this week had a good rendering of a person working with a therapist.
if you can somehow track down this show it will give an idea of how a therapeutic session would flow.

panafrica
12-19-2004, 04:03 AM
I think a good number of you people need a shrink!

IntuitioninMD
12-19-2004, 05:23 PM
i have had extensive psycho therapy and i don't have a problem saying so and i have done that several times.
so, if you want to speak with a person who has had personal restructuring, that would be me.

it's very simple.

anything that would be helpful and promote growth, Negroes find a way to avoid.
anything that is destructive and will bring everybody down becomes the new fad.
therefore, Negroes run from therapy while embracing every form of dysfunctional behavior under the sun.

let me ask you this, if you had a gunshot wound to the torso would you have a problem with letting a stranger look at it? in the ER?
or would you go see pookie on the block?

there's bad therapists out there just like there's bad surgeons.
don't stop Negroes from sitting in that ER.


I do not like.. you because .. you have been following me around Destee harrassing me... BUT I AGREE WITH YOU....

Most people do not understand what psychiatrist and psychologist are for.. anyhow. Let me add... socialogist, to that list... but most people are VICTIMs because they run from them out of ignorance about this field of study.

First of all.... from WEBSTER:

Main Entry: psy·chol·o·gy
Pronunciation: -jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
Etymology: New Latin psychologia, from psych- + -logia -logy
1 : the science of mind and behavior
2 a : the mental or behavioral characteristics of an individual or group b : the study of mind and behavior in relation to a particular field of knowledge or activity
3 : a treatise on psychology
- psy·chol·o·gist /-jist/ noun

Main Entry: educational psychology
Function: noun
: psychology concerned with human maturation, school learning, teaching methods, guidance, and evaluation of aptitude and progress by standardized tests
- educational psychologist noun

Main Entry: industrial psychology
Function: noun
: the application of the findings and methods of experimental, clinical, and social psychology to industrial concerns
- industrial psychologist noun

Main Entry: social psychology
Function: noun
: the study of the manner in which the personality, attitudes, motivations, and behavior of the individual influence and are influenced by social groups
- social psychologist noun

Before.. I get the definitions for psychiatry.... James is so correct about seeking help if ou had a gunshot wound... but not.. seeking help... when something could be mentally "not right". Which does not necessarily mean that you are going to be the next Hannibal Lecter.

A lot of Black people are in very stressful situations.. be it work, the family, someone close to you died, a unhealthy relationship...--

NOW.. FOR THE BIG ONE... :) MOST OF OUR PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF SOCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PSYCHOLOGY... VICTIMS(ONLY BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW THAT WE ARE THE TARGETS)

Now.. if I feel like I need one.. I will get one.. Personally... when I stop intaking so much caffeine.. I will need one.. because of the effects of caffeine withdrawal.

As far as dealing with people... I find self-help books like TOXIC PEOPLE to be very helpful.

Finally....


Main Entry: psy·chi·a·try
Pronunciation: s&-'kI-&-trE, sI-
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from French psychiatrie, from psychiatre psychiatrist, from psych- psych- + Greek iatros physician -- more at -IATRY
: a branch of medicine that deals with mental, emotional, or behavioral disorders
- psy·chi·at·ric /"sI-kE-'a-trik/ adjective
- psy·chi·at·ri·cal·ly /-tri-k(&-)lE/ adverb
- psy·chi·a·trist /s&-'kI-&-trist, sI-/ noun

Main Entry: ther·a·py
Pronunciation: 'ther-&-pE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -pies
Etymology: New Latin therapia, from Greek therapeia, from therapeuein
: therapeutic treatment especially of bodily, mental, or behavioral disorder

jamesfrmphilly
12-19-2004, 06:33 PM
.. FOR THE BIG ONE... :) MOST OF OUR PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF SOCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PSYCHOLOGY... VICTIMS............
black people have been the victims of so much game.
it's really a crying shame.

negroes have been convinced that any thing that is good for them:

education
vegetables
therapy

is somehow bad
and anything that is bad for them:

drugs
materialism
irresponsibility

is somehow good.

now, that's some serious game, playa!

kente417mojo
12-20-2004, 11:49 AM
I wouldn't put therapy in the same catagory as vegetables and education....because therapy can't help everyone. I think it's a individual thing. If you happen to be the type of person that benefits from a stranger telling you why you feel this and why you think that...then maybe it is something that's beneficial. I also don't think it's something that every black person needs. I do think that in some instances..it might be the only choice for some people. There are people that absolutely have no one to talk to and maybe it's a last resort...especially if you're suicidal. I think some people just don't want to be honest with themselves, and need someone to relay feelings that they already know exist.

1hotvirgowoman
12-20-2004, 12:22 PM
I think some people just don't want to be honest with themselves, and need someone to relay feelings that they already know exist.



My point exactly!. Sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else- That, in itself, is a form of Therapy.

kente417mojo
12-20-2004, 12:23 PM
My point exactly!. Sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else- That, in itself, is a form of Therapy.

Why pay big bucks to talk to a parrot?

jamesfrmphilly
12-20-2004, 12:47 PM
how come all you folks who have not been in a therapeutic situation have such firm opinions?
what are they based on?
my opinions are based on direct personal experience.

1hotvirgowoman
12-20-2004, 12:49 PM
Why pay big bucks to talk to a parrot?



Whatever Man, you're Crazy!!!. Mind you, that is only One of the Many forms of Therapy!.

kente417mojo
12-20-2004, 12:56 PM
how come all you folks who have not been in a therapeutic situation have such firm opinions?
what are they based on?
my opinions are based on direct personal experience.


My opinion has to do with my opinion. You're right...I don't have any experience with psychiatrist or anything like that. It's just an opinion, and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, like I said, I think it's something that's good for certain people. You have strong opinions of black folks that don't need a psychiatrist, so what's the difference? You say that black folks that don't see a psychiatrist don't like anything that helps them...which isn't true. What is that based on?

river
12-20-2004, 01:02 PM
I don't think it's just about telling you why you feel a certain way. For many people that would just be their excuse because they can't change the way they were raised or the way others treated them. A good therapist is someone who will show you new ways to deal with your issues.

It's good that the therapist is a stranger because really getting into your thoughts and feelings requires some distance between you and the therapist. My own father is a retired mental health counselor yet he has never acted as my therapist in a formal way. Whenever I've faced a problem he has always addressed it as my father. When someone tries to play a double role like that the roles can get in each other's way.

When you talk to a therapist you are painting a picture of your life from which he draws his conclusions. He can't be a part of that picture himself. If he is there will be a lot of editing on your part (He's my dad. I can't tell him THAT) and ego interference on his part (So that's how she feels about me, hmmph).

You can tell a therapist what's REALLY on your mind because you don't have to deal with them on a regular basis. With a friend or relative there's always the concern that they may use what you revealed to them when they make decisions that affect your life and opportunities, not because they intentionally mean you harm but because they are human and they cannot separate what thay know in one role from how they act in another role.

There's also the issue of privacy. Unless you've killed somebody a therapist is duty bound by his profession not to share your talks with anyone. Whereas a friend or famoly member speaking with another friend or family member may decide that they owe it to the other person to tell them the truth about you that you trusted them with.

Just something to think about.

kente417mojo
12-20-2004, 01:19 PM
There's also the issue of privacy. Unless you've killed somebody a therapist is duty bound by his profession not to share your talks with anyone. Whereas a friend or famoly member speaking with another friend or family member may decide that they owe it to the other person to tell them the truth about you that you trusted them with.

Just something to think about.

That's something I totally forgot about. That is a good reason rigt there. Good point river.

IntuitioninMD
12-20-2004, 06:34 PM
I wouldn't put therapy in the same catagory as vegetables and education....because therapy can't help everyone. I think it's a individual thing. If you happen to be the type of person that benefits from a stranger telling you why you feel this and why you think that...then maybe it is something that's beneficial. I also don't think it's something that every black person needs. I do think that in some instances..it might be the only choice for some people. There are people that absolutely have no one to talk to and maybe it's a last resort...especially if you're suicidal. I think some people just don't want to be honest with themselves, and need someone to relay feelings that they already know exist.


Well, too be honest... What I use as therapy is writing my feelings down so I can reflect on them at a later time, I like to dance, and responding to MY PEOPLE on the DESTEE site.... most of the time I am not around my people... so this is a form of therapy for me... EVEN WHEN SOME PEOPLE GET ON MY LAST NERVE HARRASSING ME...

What do you all use as therapy.. some people use other professionals, some people use sex, and drugs others have hobbies?

BTW I have studied suicidal and homocidal behaviour in depth. Everyone needs some body... even strangers.... that is why some people go and talk to bartenders and others talk to prostitutes, and some chat online.... all TO STRANGERS... :)

Hopefully you and your friends are fine.

Sometimes when people are afraid to let other people know how they feel -- it is a good thing to write all of those feelings down... the most important thing that a person can accomplish is the "release".... letting those feelings out in a constructive way.

Ralfa'il
04-17-2005, 02:12 PM
Although I've never been to a psychiatrist, I have been to a psychologist once in my life because it was a requirement when you apply for the police department.

:fyi: I passed all tests with flying colors by the way.




I read only a little bit of this thread but...

People need to understand the difference between a "psychologist" and a "psychiatrist".

A psychologists is just someone to talk to help you with problems you're facing, maybe give you some advice, or access you mental health.

A psychiatrist is an actual medical doctor who does the same but can also prescribe medication and chemicals.


The reason why is there are certain chemical imbalances in the brain that can make you depressed, violent, or just all around crazy as hell that only responds to medication.

No amount of positive conversation and theraphy in the world will help you if your brain is turned upside down and spinning to the point that you are seeing monsters or think you're Jesus Christ re-incarnated.

That's a PHYSICAL problem that requires a PHYSICAL solution.




Most Western psychiatry is mere re-packaged voodoo.


Our ancestors knew science, Kemistry, and how the brain worked and they used to practice all this at the hight of our glory.

When we fell from glory and the different families of Kemet began to spread all over Africa they took bits and pieces of this knowledge with them but many used it for diabolica purposes like magic and witch-craft.

So instead of using drugs, herbs, and potions positively to help people, some would use it to mess people up or make them go crazy.

jamesfrmphilly
04-17-2005, 07:44 PM
i believe every black person in america should be assigned a therapist.

panafrica
04-17-2005, 08:13 PM
i believe every black person in america should be assigned a therapist.

I think white people need therapy more than we do!

jamesfrmphilly
04-18-2005, 01:30 AM
I think white people need therapy more than we do!
i see therapy as a healing and growing process.
as such, i would want it for black people.
white people can go fish.

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