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IssaEl21
10-22-2004, 12:03 AM
Ques ; So What Is The Relationship Between Jonah And Yashua ?

Radical Faith
10-22-2004, 01:48 AM
Ques ; So What Is The Relationship Between Jonah And Yashua ?



Jonah lay inside the belly of the great fish for 3 days.

Jonah 1:17

17 But the LORD provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights.

1. The great fish (dag gadol) represents the grave or tomb or Sheol.
2. For all intensive purposes Jonah was dead to the world.

Jonah is spat out on to dry land by the great fish.

Ref: Jonah 2:10

10 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.

1. Jonah rises from the grave after three days.


Jesus is preaching to the Pharasees:

Matthew 12:39,40

39He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1. Jesus predicts his death and resurrection simular to that of Jonah

I just answered that same question for my pastor earlier today. God moves through you brother you should feel blessed. Remember there are no coinsidences, happinstances, accidents. All things happen for the purposes of God. Here a question for you. What kind of fish swallowed Jonah.

Peace Brother

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-22-2004, 03:02 PM
Jonah lay inside the belly of the great fish for 3 days.

Jonah 1:17

17 But the LORD provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights.

1. The great fish (dag gadol) represents the grave or tomb or Sheol.
2. For all intensive purposes Jonah was dead to the world.

Jonah is spat out on to dry land by the great fish.

Ref: Jonah 2:10

10 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.

1. Jonah rises from the grave after three days.


Jesus is preaching to the Pharasees:

Matthew 12:39,40

39He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1. Jesus predicts his death and resurrection simular to that of Jonah

I just answered that same question for my pastor earlier today. God moves through you brother you should feel blessed. Remember there are no coinsidences, happinstances, accidents. All things happen for the purposes of God. Here a question for you. What kind of fish swallowed Jonah.

Peace Brother

Radical Faith


The similarites or relationship between Jonah and Jesusof 2,000 years ago , One of Jesus miracles , , that of being in the bowels of the earth three days and three nights ( Matthew 12 ; 39 - 40 ; Jonah 1 ; 17 . Many of their words and deeds are almost exactly the same , The major events parallel very strongly . In fasct , So interwoven are their lives that you cannot tell the story of one , Jonah , without telling the story of the other , Jesus . And by disclosing these important stories , I consequently Expose the lies and completely dispel the fales concepts of them . The prophecy of Jonah is one of the socalled most important prophecies of the Old Testament . Who knows the meaning , or has attempted to decipher it ? For how many of You Have Yet To Ask Your Pastors , Preachers , Teachers , Imams , Rabbis And So Called Religious Scholars , Who Profess To Know The Bible ? JUST ASK THEM ! ( Jonah Matthew 12 ; 42 Son Of Amittal And Reumah ) . Many people come claiming to teach in Jesus name . But they lie Matthew 24 ; 4 - 5 . Just like Jonah Evaded his responsibility , So do the Preachers and Teachers Evade their Responsibilities to you . They go to Seminaries and Graduate from Theology schools with finely Documented Dispomas and certifcates of Gold , But what do these things mean ? Absolutely Nothing .
Jonah and Yashua both were sent as A Messiah to a specific Group Of People . Jonah to The Ninevehites Jonah 1 ; 2 <> Arise , go to Nineveh , that great city and city against it ; for ' their wickedness is come up before me
And Yashua to The Judahites Matthew 15 ; 24 <> But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of thehouse of Israel . To warn them of their destruction from their God ( Jonah [ Eloheem ] And Yashua / Jesus [ Thehos = God ] Both being the same but different languages . Yashua / Jesus being in The greek Bible Thehos = God And Jonah's being thesame but in Hebrew Between These Two Messiah .
Jonah .. 2Kings 14 ; 25 <>He restored the border of Israel from the entrance of Hamath as far as the Sea of the Arabah, according to the word of the LORD, the God of Israel, which he spoke by his servant Jonah the son of Amit'tai, the prophet, who was from Gath-he'pher.
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 2;22 <>But when he heard that Archelaus reigned over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there, and being warned in a dream he withdrew to the district of Galilee
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 2 <>Arise, go to Nin'eveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness has come up before me."
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 15 ; 24 <>He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Jonah .. Quraan 10 ; 96 - 98 <>96. Those against whom the word of thy Lord hath been verified would not believe- 97. Even if every Sign was brought unto them,- until they see (for themselves) the penalty grievous. 98. Why was there not a single township (among those We warned), which believed,- so its faith should have profited it,- except the people of Jonah? When they believed, We removed from them the penalty of ignominy in the life of the present, and permitted them to enjoy (their life) for a while.
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 13 ; 57 <>And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house."
Jonah ... Jonah 3 ; 1 <> Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying
Yashua .. John 16 ; 19 <> Jesus knew that they wanted to ask him; so he said to them, "Is this what you are asking yourselves, what I meant by saying, 'A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me'?
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 12 <> He said to them, "Take me up and throw me into the sea; then the sea will quiet down for you; for I know it is because of me that this great tempest has come upon you."
Yashua ... John 2 ; 19 <> Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 17 <> 17 And the LORD appointed a great fish to swallow up Jonah; and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Yashua ... Matthew 12 ; 40 <>For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jonah ... Jonah 2 ; 10 <>And the LORD spoke to the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
Yashua .. John 20 ; 14 - 16 <>Saying this, she turned round and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom do you seek?" Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away." 16 Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned and said to him in Hebrew, "Rab-bo'ni!" (which means Teacher).
Jonah ..Jonah 2; 2 <>saying, "I called to the LORD, out of my distress, and he answered me; out of the belly of Sheol I cried, and thou didst hear my voice
Yashua .. Luke 22 ; 24 <>A dispute also arose among them, which of them was to be regarded as the greatest.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 13 <> Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring the ship back to land, but they could not, for the sea grew more and more tempestuous against them.
Yashua .. Matthew 26 ; 50 - 51 <> Jesus said to him, "Friend, why are you here?" Then they came up and laid hands on Jesus and seized him. 51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, and struck the slave of the high priest, and cut off his ear.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 14 <> Therefore they cried to the LORD, "We beseech thee, O LORD, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not on us innocent blood; for thou, O LORD, hast done as it pleased thee."
Yashua .. Matthew 27 ; 24 <> So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves."
They are similar to each other Rendering them both A Messiah , but not The Only Messiah . Million Today Blindly Accept That Yashua Of Nazareth Is The Only Christ , They produce '' A Thousand And One '' Prophecies From Their BibleThe Old Testament , To Prove Their Claim That Yashua Was The Promised Messiah . Now Lets Examine This Quote , Matthew 12 ; 38 - 40 <>Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to him, "Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you." 39 But he answered them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign; but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Where Jesus states; '' There will be one sign give to thee of the prophet Jonah'' , And examie whether he fullfilled this promise and his prophecies .
So what was this sign , and how many were there ? Jesus states in Matthew 12 ; 38 there was only one sign ( Matthew 12 ; 39 - 40 ) . Did Jonah question God ?
Jonah question God and told God he won't fulfill his promise , and God didn't Jonah 4 ; 1 - 3 . Why does God have to use A Whale to show that he is the God ? He believed in the Bible the book that the 46 scholars put together for the seed of seth . Why was it necessary for God to tell Jonah to go to Nineveh to warn these people of their destruction Jonah 1 ; 2 , For in the case of Daniel , What happened Is that the writting appeared on the wall Daniel 5 ; 5 . Why couldn't God have done the same for Jonah ? Why is it that in some cases he can do all and any kind of things with just the wave of the hand and in other cases God Can't . Why sid God have to sent a Whale to punish Jonah for not doing his duty ? Did Jonah survive in a whale for three days andthree night ? If you say that he did survive , can you prove it Scientifically ? Come on be FoReal . Was This Whale An Ordinary Whale ? According to Jonah 1 ; 17 , it says '' God Prepared
A Whale '' Specifically For Jonah . Now If God Prepared This Whale Specifically For Jonah . Had This Been A Whale That Had Been Created In The Beginning , AndEvoluted Through The Ages ? If So . Then Jonah Would Not Have Been Able To Survive In His Belly . Now Some Same It Was A Blue Or Sulfur-Bottom . Or Humpback Or Maybe Or Baleen . But To Answer Your Question I Don't Really Know Because I Don't See Anyone Living In Side Of A Whale .
Here's Another Question ; How could Paul trun from a strong opposer of Yashua to one of his Disciple ?

Radical Faith
10-22-2004, 05:37 PM
The similarites or relationship between Jonah and Jesusof 2,000 years ago , One of Jesus miracles , , that of being in the bowels of the earth three days and three nights ( Matthew 12 ; 39 - 40 ; Jonah 1 ; 17 . Many of their words and deeds are almost exactly the same , The major events parallel very strongly . In fasct , So interwoven are their lives that you cannot tell the story of one , Jonah , without telling the story of the other , Jesus . And by disclosing these important stories , I consequently Expose the lies and completely dispel the fales concepts of them . The prophecy of Jonah is one of the socalled most important prophecies of the Old Testament . Who knows the meaning , or has attempted to decipher it ? For how many of You Have Yet To Ask Your Pastors , Preachers , Teachers , Imams , Rabbis And So Called Religious Scholars , Who Profess To Know The Bible ? JUST ASK THEM ! ( Jonah Matthew 12 ; 42 Son Of Amittal And Reumah ) . Many people come claiming to teach in Jesus name . But they lie Matthew 24 ; 4 - 5 . Just like Jonah Evaded his responsibility , So do the Preachers and Teachers Evade their Responsibilities to you . They go to Seminaries and Graduate from Theology schools with finely Documented Dispomas and certifcates of Gold , But what do these things mean ? Absolutely Nothing .
Jonah and Yashua both were sent as A Messiah to a specific Group Of People . Jonah to The Ninevehites Jonah 1 ; 2 <> Arise , go to Nineveh , that great city and city against it ; for ' their wickedness is come up before me
And Yashua to The Judahites Matthew 15 ; 24 <> But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of thehouse of Israel . To warn them of their destruction from their God ( Jonah [ Eloheem ] And Yashua / Jesus [ Thehos = God ] Both being the same but different languages . Yashua / Jesus being in The greek Bible Thehos = God And Jonah's being thesame but in Hebrew Between These Two Messiah .
Jonah .. 2Kings 14 ; 25 <>He restored the border of Israel from the entrance of Hamath as far as the Sea of the Arabah, according to the word of the LORD, the God of Israel, which he spoke by his servant Jonah the son of Amit'tai, the prophet, who was from Gath-he'pher.
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 2;22 <>But when he heard that Archelaus reigned over Judea in place of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there, and being warned in a dream he withdrew to the district of Galilee
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 2 <>Arise, go to Nin'eveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness has come up before me."
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 15 ; 24 <>He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Jonah .. Quraan 10 ; 96 - 98 <>96. Those against whom the word of thy Lord hath been verified would not believe- 97. Even if every Sign was brought unto them,- until they see (for themselves) the penalty grievous. 98. Why was there not a single township (among those We warned), which believed,- so its faith should have profited it,- except the people of Jonah? When they believed, We removed from them the penalty of ignominy in the life of the present, and permitted them to enjoy (their life) for a while.
Yashua / Jesus .. Matthew 13 ; 57 <>And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house."
Jonah ... Jonah 3 ; 1 <> Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying
Yashua .. John 16 ; 19 <> Jesus knew that they wanted to ask him; so he said to them, "Is this what you are asking yourselves, what I meant by saying, 'A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me'?
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 12 <> He said to them, "Take me up and throw me into the sea; then the sea will quiet down for you; for I know it is because of me that this great tempest has come upon you."
Yashua ... John 2 ; 19 <> Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 17 <> 17 And the LORD appointed a great fish to swallow up Jonah; and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Yashua ... Matthew 12 ; 40 <>For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jonah ... Jonah 2 ; 10 <>And the LORD spoke to the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
Yashua .. John 20 ; 14 - 16 <>Saying this, she turned round and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom do you seek?" Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away." 16 Jesus said to her, "Mary." She turned and said to him in Hebrew, "Rab-bo'ni!" (which means Teacher).
Jonah ..Jonah 2; 2 <>saying, "I called to the LORD, out of my distress, and he answered me; out of the belly of Sheol I cried, and thou didst hear my voice
Yashua .. Luke 22 ; 24 <>A dispute also arose among them, which of them was to be regarded as the greatest.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 13 <> Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring the ship back to land, but they could not, for the sea grew more and more tempestuous against them.
Yashua .. Matthew 26 ; 50 - 51 <> Jesus said to him, "Friend, why are you here?" Then they came up and laid hands on Jesus and seized him. 51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, and struck the slave of the high priest, and cut off his ear.
Jonah .. Jonah 1 ; 14 <> Therefore they cried to the LORD, "We beseech thee, O LORD, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not on us innocent blood; for thou, O LORD, hast done as it pleased thee."
Yashua .. Matthew 27 ; 24 <> So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves."
They are similar to each other Rendering them both A Messiah , but not The Only Messiah . Million Today Blindly Accept That Yashua Of Nazareth Is The Only Christ , They produce '' A Thousand And One '' Prophecies From Their BibleThe Old Testament , To Prove Their Claim That Yashua Was The Promised Messiah . Now Lets Examine This Quote , Matthew 12 ; 38 - 40 <>Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to him, "Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you." 39 But he answered them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign; but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Where Jesus states; '' There will be one sign give to thee of the prophet Jonah'' , And examie whether he fullfilled this promise and his prophecies .
So what was this sign , and how many were there ? Jesus states in Matthew 12 ; 38 there was only one sign ( Matthew 12 ; 39 - 40 ) . Did Jonah question God ?
Jonah question God and told God he won't fulfill his promise , and God didn't Jonah 4 ; 1 - 3 . Why does God have to use A Whale to show that he is the God ? He believed in the Bible the book that the 46 scholars put together for the seed of seth . Why was it necessary for God to tell Jonah to go to Nineveh to warn these people of their destruction Jonah 1 ; 2 , For in the case of Daniel , What happened Is that the writting appeared on the wall Daniel 5 ; 5 . Why couldn't God have done the same for Jonah ? Why is it that in some cases he can do all and any kind of things with just the wave of the hand and in other cases God Can't . Why sid God have to sent a Whale to punish Jonah for not doing his duty ? Did Jonah survive in a whale for three days andthree night ? If you say that he did survive , can you prove it Scientifically ? Come on be FoReal . Was This Whale An Ordinary Whale ? According to Jonah 1 ; 17 , it says '' God Prepared
A Whale '' Specifically For Jonah . Now If God Prepared This Whale Specifically For Jonah . Had This Been A Whale That Had Been Created In The Beginning , AndEvoluted Through The Ages ? If So . Then Jonah Would Not Have Been Able To Survive In His Belly . Now Some Same It Was A Blue Or Sulfur-Bottom . Or Humpback Or Maybe Or Baleen . But To Answer Your Question I Don't Really Know Because I Don't See Anyone Living In Side Of A Whale .
Here's Another Question ; How could Paul trun from a strong opposer of Yashua to one of his Disciple ?


Thank you brother for responding to my question about what kind of fish swallowed Jonah. This question is very controversial. Many scholars differ in oppinion on this question. Scientifically it is impossible for a whale to swallow a man. Anatomically a whale's throat is too small for a man's appendiges much less his whole body. One theory is the fish was a carcharias or a great white shark. This is possible since the shark has a sizeable throat and stomach capable of swallowing a man whole. Also this creature was and still is indigenious to the Meditearrania Sea where Jonah sailed. The hebrew words for great fish is Dag Gadol. Either way what kind of fish it was is irrelevant it is the symbolic meaning of the fish that matters. If you were on a boat with you friend and he/she fall overboard and is swallowed whole by an enormous sea creature, for all intensive purposes that person dead wouldn't you say. So the fish represent death or demise. Not just any kind of death but a horrible death. To be be eaten alive. This is why his resurrection is so important. Sailors that saw him get eaten would have no doubt about the power of God once they saw him alive again. They would go and witness of the miracle they saw. There is nothing God can't do. God chooses what he want's to do and not to do this is proven in Genesis 1,2. Also it is not for us to understand what God does all the time.

Isaiah 55:8,9

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD .
9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts

Sometime we must wait to see how things play out. Part of why God chooses unlikely charaters the do his bidding is God want us to believe in him. God takes the impossible and makes it possible. Let's take David for instance.

1 Samual 14:11-13

11 So he asked Jesse, "Are these all the sons you have?"
"There is still the youngest," Jesse answered, "but he is tending the sheep."
Samuel said, "Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives."
12 So he sent and had him brought in. He was ruddy, with a fine appearance and handsome features.
Then the LORD said, "Rise and anoint him; he is the one."
13 So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah.

1 Samual 17:45-51

45 David said to the Philistine, "You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the LORD Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the LORD will hand you over to me, and I'll strike you down and cut off your head. Today I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. 47 All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the LORD saves; for the battle is the LORD's, and he will give all of you into our hands."
48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.
50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine's sword and drew it from the scabbard. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.
When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran.

Hear we see just one of many reoccurring themes of how God takes the least among us and uses them for His divine purpose. God makes the least into the greastest for our edification letting us know nothing is impossible. In the case of Paul who was Saul we see in Acts 9:1-19 God literally and figuratively blinded him so he could see. Paul was the absolute last person God could have chosen to become one his greatest apostles. This is why the Lord chose Paul because of his unlikeliness so that we may believe.

Peace Brother

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-22-2004, 06:24 PM
Thank you brother for responding to my question about what kind of fish swallowed Jonah. This question is very conversial. Many scholar differ in oppinion on this question. Scientifically it is impossible for a whale to swallow a man. Anatomically a whale's throat is too small for a man's appendiges much less his whole body. One theory is the fish was a carcharias or a great white shark. This is possible since the shark has a sizeable throat and stomach capable of swallowing a man whole. Also this creature was and still is indigenious to the Meditearrania Sea where Jonah sailed. The hebrew words for great fish is Dag Gadol. Either way what kind of fish it was is irrelevant it is the symbolic meaning of the fish that matters. If you were on a boat with you friend and he/she fall overboard and is swallowed whole by an enormous sea creature, for all intensive purposes that person dead wouldn't you say. So the fish represent death or demise. Not just any kind of death but a horrible death. To be be eaten alive. This is why his resurrection is so important. Sailors that saw him get eaten would have no doubt about the power of God once they saw him alive again. They would go and witness of the miracle they saw. There is nothing God can't do. God chooses what he want's to do and not to do this is proven in Genesis 1,2. Also it is not for us to understand what God does all the time.

Isaiah 55:8,9

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD .
9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts

Sometime we must wait to see how things play out. Part of why God chooses unlikely charaters the do his bidding is God want us to believe in him. God takes the impossible and makes it possible. Let's take David for instance.

1 Samual 14:11-13

11 So he asked Jesse, "Are these all the sons you have?"
"There is still the youngest," Jesse answered, "but he is tending the sheep."
Samuel said, "Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives."
12 So he sent and had him brought in. He was ruddy, with a fine appearance and handsome features.
Then the LORD said, "Rise and anoint him; he is the one."
13 So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah.

1 Samual 17:45-51

45 David said to the Philistine, "You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the LORD Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the LORD will hand you over to me, and I'll strike you down and cut off your head. Today I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. 47 All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the LORD saves; for the battle is the LORD's, and he will give all of you into our hands."
48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.
50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine's sword and drew it from the scabbard. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.
When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran.

Hear we see just one of many reoccurring themes of how God takes the least among us and uses them for His divine purpose. God makes the least into the greastest for our edification letting us know nothing is impossible. In the case of Paul who was Saul we see in Acts 9:1-19 God literally and figuratively blinded him so he could see. Paul was the absolute last person God could have chosen to become one his greatest apostles. This is why the Lord chose Paul because of his unlikeliness so that we may believe.

Peace Brother

Radical Faith


Tankyou For Takeing The Time For Answer My Thread . You Call It Symbolic,
I Call It Spookism ... I OverStand Why The Word Believe / Belief / Faith Is So Important In Religion Other Wise The Spell Of Belief / Faith / Believe , Wouldn't Work In Religion KeyWord Here Religion . By The Way Their Is One Thing God Can Not Do And The Is Become Less Then Himself And Still Be God
How could Paul trun from a strong opposer of Yashua to one of his Disciple ?
That's a good question and the answer is simple . First of all Paul ( never ) was a discipleof Yashua ! He was sent as an Apostle to the Gentiles only . How do I kow ? According to The Holy Bible Paul said Yashua chose him as his instrument for carrying his teaching to the Gentiles who were ( not ) of the House of Israel
( Acts 9 ; 15 - 16 ) . However , in Revelation 11 ; 1 - 2 And I Quote '' And there was given me a reed like unto a rod ; and the angel stood , saying . Rise , and measure the temple of God ( Theos . Elohyeem ) . and the altar , and them that worship therein . But the court which is without the temple leave out , and measure it not ; for it is given unto the Gentiles ; and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months ''.
Notice howthe people outside of the temple were Left Out . Why ? Because they mixed their seed with the Gentiles , and they can only revive salation from the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel , the Holy Seed . So , as it says in Acts 9 ; 15 And I Quote '' But the Lord ( Kurios ) said unto him ( Paul ) , Go thy way ; for he is a chosen vessel unto me. to bear my name before the Gentiles , and kings . and the children of Israel . we know that this was not Yashua speaking , because the Book of Revelation by John son Zebeddee , written in the year 96 A.D. was revealed after the Book of Acts written by Luke ( was Paul inserts ) in the year 61 A.D. over thirty years later . Revelation was written after Paul's statement that Judean '' Jew '' and the Gentiles are the same as in Roman 3 ; 9 written in the year 56 A.D. . forty years before the book of Revelation . So why would Paul say that he was appointed a preacher , apostle and teacher of the Gentlies ( 2Timothy 1;11 ; 2; 7 ; when the point was made clear in Revelation 11 ; 1 - 2 , that you will be left out for mixing your seed with the Gentiles . Yet Paul went to the Gentiles anyway as hesaid he was , coming from his own mouth in , Acts 18 ; 6 , And I Quote '' And when they opposed themselves , and blasphemed , he shook his raiment , andsaid unto them , Your blood be upon your own heads ; I am clean ; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles ''.
Here's Another Question If I May < Why do people believe that Paul was disciple ? >
Again ThanYou For Takeing Time To Answer My Thread , LQQking Forward To Your Answer To The Above Question :nightowl:

THA HOOKUPMAN
10-23-2004, 11:11 AM
Jonah lay inside the belly of the great fish for 3 days.

Jonah 1:17

17 But the LORD provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights.

1. The great fish (dag gadol) represents the grave or tomb or Sheol.
2. For all intensive purposes Jonah was dead to the world.

Jonah is spat out on to dry land by the great fish.

Ref: Jonah 2:10

10 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.



Radical Faith



THIS IS MAD THINKING...NO FISH WHALE OR WHATEVER COULD swallow Jonah OR ANY OTHER MAN WHOLE ..AND LIVE IN HIS BELLY ....THIS CANT BE DONE ....A WHALES THROAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO A THING LIKE THAT...WITHOUT CHEWING THE MAN UP FIRST...SO JONAH WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD IF A BIG FISH OR A WHALE WAS TO SHALLOW HIM.....WHY DO WE READ THIS STUFF AND BLINDLY FOLLOW WHAT IS SAID IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY HIGH(CHEWING WEED) WRITERS FOR HIRE PROFITS WHO COULDNT READ THE SCOLLS THEY WHERE STEALING FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Radical Faith
10-24-2004, 12:53 AM
THIS IS MAD THINKING...NO FISH WHALE OR WHATEVER COULD swallow Jonah OR ANY OTHER MAN WHOLE ..AND LIVE IN HIS BELLY ....THIS CANT BE DONE ....A WHALES THROAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO A THING LIKE THAT...WITHOUT CHEWING THE MAN UP FIRST...SO JONAH WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD IF A BIG FISH OR A WHALE WAS TO SHALLOW HIM.....WHY DO WE READ THIS STUFF AND BLINDLY FOLLOW WHAT IS SAID IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY HIGH(CHEWING WEED) WRITERS FOR HIRE PROFITS WHO COULDNT READ THE SCOLLS THEY WHERE STEALING FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE?


1 Corinthians 2:6-16

6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him".
10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
11The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

I threw that scripture out so that you my understand the word of God is for the people of God. All people have the potential to be a part of God's kindom if his or she chooses. God must be worshipped and understood in spirit. Sure your comment about the scripture on Jonah is correct. There is no way in our physical universe or the natural world that a whale or shark or crocidile could swallow a man whole without chewing or the man remain alive for three day in the stomach of creature. Not only would he be dead but he would be partially digested. So no that could not happen in the natural world but we're not talking about a nature god. We're talking about a God that superceeds nature. If God created the man and the beast why would he not be able to control them to do his bidding? See brother this story is not about man that was eaten by a sea creature. It's about the result of running away from your responsibilty and then given a second chance. Let me break it down in terms you'll understand. Let's say there's a brother that is delinquent on his child support and owes mad loot to the state. Now he gets arrested and gets a 90 day jail sentence. In that time he has two choices. He can either serve his time, blame the system or his baby's mama, get out to just repeat the same the thing and receive the same result over and over again. Or he could reflect on where he went wrong, be truely remorseful and when he gets out take care of his responsibily. Brother I know it's hard to understand but just by your response I can tell you're searching for answers. Keep searching brother you'll find them.


Peace

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-24-2004, 02:33 AM
Here's Another Question If I May < Why do people believe that Paul was disciple ? >
Again ThanYou For Takeing Time To Answer My Thread , LQQking Forward To Your Answer To The Above Question :hearthis:

Radical Faith
10-24-2004, 03:06 AM
Here's Another Question If I May < Why do people believe that Paul was disciple ? >
Again ThanYou For Takeing Time To Answer My Thread , LQQking Forward To Your Answer To The Above Question :hearthis:


Here's the short answer for now.

Most people don't know the difference between a disciple and a apostle. There is a difference I know you know the difference. I will elaborate later.


Peace My Brother

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-24-2004, 05:14 PM
Here's the short answer for now.

Most people don't know the difference between a disciple and a apostle. There is a difference I know you know the difference. I will elaborate later.


Peace My Brother

Radical Faith

Think YourTrying To Play Me LaughingBigTimeHere < Don't You Really Knew But Hey We're Only Shareing Knowledge ( Yes ) :dance1:

What's The Difference Between A Disciple And An Apostle ?
First , let's define the two words '' Disciple '' And'' Apostle '' according to '' The American Heritage Dictionary '' The word disciple is defined as ;
dis-ci-ple ( d'-s p ... l ) N. 3. A . A person who is being educated ; student .
In Arabic , Hebrew , and Greek . They all share the definition for disciple . As a student ;
Arabic - [ Tilmeeth ] - literally meaning young student .
Hebrew - [ Limmuwud or Limmud ] meaning instruted , disciple. learned from the root word [ Lamad ] meaning '' To goad , to teach ''
Greek - [ Manthetes ] meaning to learner ( Pulpil . disciple ) from [ Manthano ] or [ Matheo ] meaning to learn ( In anyway )
Now Apostle Is Defined As ;
A'pos'tle ( ... O 1/4 s '' .. L ) N . 1 . A . One who pioneers an important reform movement , cause or belief
Arabic - [ Rasool ] meaning '' One sent messenger ''
Hebrew - [ Basar ] A prim . root ; ''' To be fresh , announce ( Glad news ) messengers '''
Greek - [ Apostolos ] '' Ambassador messenger . envoy ; one who represents the sender
As you can see there is definatly a distinction between the two words in all three languages . Basically A Disciple is a Student and an Apostle is a Messenger . :bullseye:

GP
10-25-2004, 10:00 AM
:haha: You all crack me up. Luke 1:37 tells us that "with God, nothing shall be impossible" Be assured, if God wanted Jonah in the belly of a whale, thats exactally where he was.
Luke 18:27 is good too.
Lets look at some facts about Whales.
Blue whales grow to be about 80 feet (25 m) long on average, weighing about 120 tons (109 tonnes). The largest specimen found was a female 94 feet (29 m) long weighing more 174 tons (158 tonnes). The females are larger than males, as with all baleen whales. The largest of the blue whales (150 tons) has a heart that weighs about 1,000 pounds (450 kg) and has 14,000 pounds (6,400 kg) of blood circulating in its body. The heart is about the size of a Volkswagon bug car. A human could crawl through the aorta (a major blood vessel).
Blue whales (like all baleen whales) are seasonal feeders and carnivores that filter feed tiny crustaceans (krill, copepods, etc.), plankton, and small fish from the water. They are gulpers, filter feeders that alternatively swim then gulp a mouthful of plankton or fish - they lunge into dense groups of small sea organisms (krill or tiny fish) with an open mouth. 50 to 70 throat pleats allow the throat to expand a great deal, forming a gular pouch. The water is then forced through the baleen plates hanging from the upper jaw. The baleen catches the food, acting like a sieve.
The blue whale has about 320 pairs of black baleen plates with dark gray bristles in the blue whale's jaws. They are about 39 inches long (1 m), 21 inches wide (53 cm), and weigh 200 pounds (90 kg). The tongue weighs 4 tons (3.8 tonnes).

An average-sized blue whale will eat 2,000-9,000 pounds (900-4100 kg) of plankton each day
Hummmm if THIS Whale can do that, imagine what the Whale could do to "take in Jonah"

Joyce
10-25-2004, 12:26 PM
Issa...I see you are still at it. Radical has way mo patience with you than I do. He's to be commended.

Meanwhile it's time for me to open the :getout:

...gosh darnit...he keeps popping back in. :x:

IssaEl21
10-25-2004, 07:59 PM
Issa...I see you are still at it. Radical has way mo patience with you than I do. He's to be commended.

Meanwhile it's time for me to open the :getout:

...gosh darnit...he keeps popping back in. :x:


Hey You Can Run But You Can't Hide From The Truth ( You Know )
Laughing See Your Better That Great ....Hummmmmmmmmm Sitting Here :thinking: Up A Good Question For Miss Joyce :thinking:

IssaEl21
10-25-2004, 08:13 PM
:haha: You all crack me up. Luke 1:37 tells us that "with God, nothing shall be impossible" Be assured, if God wanted Jonah in the belly of a whale, thats exactally where he was.
Luke 18:27 is good too.
Lets look at some facts about Whales.
Blue whales grow to be about 80 feet (25 m) long on average, weighing about 120 tons (109 tonnes). The largest specimen found was a female 94 feet (29 m) long weighing more 174 tons (158 tonnes). The females are larger than males, as with all baleen whales. The largest of the blue whales (150 tons) has a heart that weighs about 1,000 pounds (450 kg) and has 14,000 pounds (6,400 kg) of blood circulating in its body. The heart is about the size of a Volkswagon bug car. A human could crawl through the aorta (a major blood vessel).
Blue whales (like all baleen whales) are seasonal feeders and carnivores that filter feed tiny crustaceans (krill, copepods, etc.), plankton, and small fish from the water. They are gulpers, filter feeders that alternatively swim then gulp a mouthful of plankton or fish - they lunge into dense groups of small sea organisms (krill or tiny fish) with an open mouth. 50 to 70 throat pleats allow the throat to expand a great deal, forming a gular pouch. The water is then forced through the baleen plates hanging from the upper jaw. The baleen catches the food, acting like a sieve.
The blue whale has about 320 pairs of black baleen plates with dark gray bristles in the blue whale's jaws. They are about 39 inches long (1 m), 21 inches wide (53 cm), and weigh 200 pounds (90 kg). The tongue weighs 4 tons (3.8 tonnes).

An average-sized blue whale will eat 2,000-9,000 pounds (900-4100 kg) of plankton each day
Hummmm if THIS Whale can do that, imagine what the Whale could do to "take in Jonah"


Can You Explain What Does The Word '' Create '' Really Mean ?
What Are The Three Stages Of Creation ?
This Shouldn't Be To Hard For You , Now Should It , While Your Thinking Up A Answer , I Guess I'll Workout A Little :weights: 1,2.3,4.5,6,7,8,9, 10 Etc . Etc ..

IssaEl21
10-25-2004, 08:18 PM
Issa...I see you are still at it. Radical has way mo patience with you than I do. He's to be commended.

Meanwhile it's time for me to open the :getout:

...gosh darnit...he keeps popping back in. :x:


If < Radical Faith > Would Be Truthful He Would Tell You He Have Learn A Lot From Me < SmileingHere > :pool:

Radical Faith
10-26-2004, 10:45 PM
If < Radical Faith > Would Be Truthful He Would Tell You He Have Learn A Lot From Me < SmileingHere > :pool:


I hope you don't mind me give God the credit, it is because of God we've come together in this forum. See brother God sent you to me so that I may learn his word and defend what I believe. So yes brother as an instrument of God you have challenged me to become a better christian and to understand what it is I believe in. So I must thank you for not resisting the Spirit that guided you to me and me to you. I hope that you have learned something from me as well, even if it's not your way.


Peace

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-27-2004, 06:36 PM
I hope you don't mind me give God the credit, it is because of God we've come together in this forum. See brother God sent you to me so that I may learn his word and defend what I believe. So yes brother as an instrument of God you have challenged me to become a better christian and to understand what it is I believe in. So I must thank you for not resisting the Spirit that guided you to me and me to you. I hope that you have learned something from me as well, even if it's not your way.


Peace

Radical Faith
I Must Say Reading You Answer To My Question , Are Conformation Of What I Have Study About Christianity And I Do Appreciate You Taking The Time Answer The Question , Because Most Of The Churches I Would Go For Answers The Minster Etc . Fear Being Question In Front Of His / Her Congregation . For You See The Minister Know How Powerful The Words Believe / Belief / Faith Can Be Used , And This Is How They Get Over On Their Congregation, It Call Mind Control . If I Had A Dollar For EveryTime I've Heard Someone Say God Sent Him Or Her To Me For This Or That . I Could Buy Enough Books For All The Nubians Children In School's . So They Could Really Be Educate . ( Food For Though ) The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For His At The End Of Their Arms .

Here's Another Question ; How could Paul trun from a strong opposer of Yashua to one of his Disciple ?

Radical Faith
10-29-2004, 04:46 AM
I Must Say Reading You Answer To My Question , Are Conformation Of What I Have Study About Christianity And I Do Appreciate You Taking The Time Answer The Question , Because Most Of The Churches I Would Go For Answers The Minster Etc . Fear Being Question In Front Of His / Her Congregation . For You See The Minister Know How Powerful The Words Believe / Belief / Faith Can Be Used , And This Is How They Get Over On Their Congregation, It Call Mind Control . If I Had A Dollar For EveryTime I've Heard Someone Say God Sent Him Or Her To Me For This Or That . I Could Buy Enough Books For All The Nubians Children In School's . So They Could Really Be Educate . ( Food For Though ) The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For His At The End Of Their Arms .

Here's Another Question ; How could Paul trun from a strong opposer of Yashua to one of his Disciple ?


First Brother it is always a pleasure to have intelligent conversation and second I was not trying to pull a fast one or to play you by any means but show you by definition what Paul was for Christ. Thank you for so eloquently distinguishing a Disciple from an Apostle in the previous thread. See Paul was never directly a Disciple of Christ because by definition a Disciple is a "student". Paul did study the teachings of Christ by the Apostles that preceded him but not as a student. He studied the teachings of Christ like adversary studies his opponent. Paul was also quite knowledgeable of Mosiac Law; he was a disciple of Gamaliel a high priest of the Sanhedrin. Paul while Saul diligently persecuted Christians as seen in the following scripture:

Acts 8:2, 3

2 On that day a great persecution broke out against the church at Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off men and women and put them in prison.

Before we look at Paul's conversion let look at some of things Paul witnessed as Saul the persecutor.

The beginning and increase of the Church of Christ:

Acts 2:42-47
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

Acts 6:7

7 So the word of God spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem increased rapidly, and a large number of priests became obedient to the faith.

The execution of a man that had no fear of man’s punishment:

Acts 7:55-60

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 "Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul.
59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." When he had said this, he fell asleep.

Now let’s examine Saul’s Conversion to Paul.

Acts 9:1-18

1 Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"
5 "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked.
6 "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."
7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.
10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, "Ananias!"
"Yes, Lord," he answered.
11 The Lord told him, "Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight."
13 "Lord," Ananias answered, "I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your saints in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name."
15 But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name."
17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord--Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here--has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit." 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul's eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

In the previous scripture we see Saul started out as vehemently as ever in the pursuit of Christians when he as we Christian like to say had that defining moment in his life. From this scripture the term “seen the light” has its roots. This experience was so awe inspiring Paul literally did a 180 degree turn in every aspect of his life. The culmination of what he believed to be blasphemous came to pass. Then all the preaching and lectures he heard from the Apostles of Christ begin to fall in place. At that moment as with all Christians, Paul had been baptized with the Holy Spirit and his heart was circumcised. Jesus had become real to Paul. Look at this scripture how Paul describes his conversion to other Jews:


Acts 22:1-21

1 "Brothers and fathers, listen now to my defense." 2 When they heard him speak to them in Aramaic, they became very quiet.
3 Then Paul said: "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city. Under Gamaliel I was thoroughly trained in the law of our fathers and was just as zealous for God as any of you are today. 4 I persecuted the followers of this Way to their death, arresting both men and women and throwing them into prison, 5 as also the high priest and all the Council can testify. I even obtained letters from them to their brothers in Damascus, and went there to bring these people as prisoners to Jerusalem to be punished.
6 "About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. 7 I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, 'Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?' 8 " 'Who are you, Lord?' I asked. 9 " 'I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,' he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me. 10 " 'What shall I do, Lord?' I asked. 11 " 'Get up,' the Lord said, 'and go into Damascus. There you will be told all that you have been assigned to do.' My companions led me by the hand into Damascus, because the brilliance of the light had blinded me. 12 "A man named Ananias came to see me. He was a devout observer of the law and highly respected by all the Jews living there. 13 He stood beside me and said, 'Brother Saul, receive your sight!' And at that very moment I was able to see him. 14 "Then he said: 'The God of our fathers has chosen you to know his will and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from his mouth. 15 You will be his witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.' 17 "When I returned to Jerusalem and was praying at the temple, I fell into a trance 18 and saw the Lord speaking. 'Quick!' he said to me. 'Leave Jerusalem immediately, because they will not accept your testimony about me.' 19 " 'Lord,' I replied, 'these men know that I went from one synagogue to another to imprison and beat those who believe in you. 20 And when the blood of your martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.' 21 "Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' "

So brother you see how Paul became the very thing he despised. It can also be said that though he persecuted Christians to death, there numbers kept increasing and they spread. It was almost an exercise in futility in trying to eliminate them. Paul had to see this. Notice the theme of three days again for the maturation of the spirit or the rebirth of the individual. So brother this is how Paul could hate Jesus and still became his Apostle.


Peace

Radical Faith

Radical Faith
10-29-2004, 05:11 AM
[QUOTE=IssaEl21]I Must Say Reading You Answer To My Question , Are Conformation Of What I Have Study About Christianity And I Do Appreciate You Taking The Time Answer The Question , Because Most Of The Churches I Would Go For Answers The Minster Etc . Fear Being Question In Front Of His / Her Congregation . For You See The Minister Know How Powerful The Words Believe / Belief / Faith Can Be Used , And This Is How They Get Over On Their Congregation, It Call Mind Control . If I Had A Dollar For EveryTime I've Heard Someone Say God Sent Him Or Her To Me For This Or That . I Could Buy Enough Books For All The Nubians Children In School's . So They Could Really Be Educate . ( Food For Though ) The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For His At The End Of Their Arms .

I have noticed on more than one occasion your distain for Spiritual Leaders. In some cases I must as agree. There are some persons of the cloth that are running a con game. The state of the church especially in our community is in sad shape. Sure we can have a conference or a festival in the summer or have some sort of concert or production. But what is really happening on the battlefield? The battlefield is our communities and neighborhoods. Souls are being lost everyday. And we in the Church sometimes care more about being entertained. Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with good preaching and good singing but the word and song should inspire you to action. So brother if I may from your study of Christianity what is it that the Church and it's leaders be doing?

Peace

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
10-29-2004, 06:07 PM
First Brother it is always a pleasure to have intelligent conversation and second I was not trying to pull a fast one or to play you by any means but show you by definition what Paul was for Christ. Thank you for so eloquently distinguishing a Disciple from an Apostle in the previous thread. See Paul was never directly a Disciple of Christ because by definition a Disciple is a "student". Paul did study the teachings of Christ by the Apostles that preceded him but not as a student. He studied the teachings of Christ like adversary studies his opponent. Paul was also quite knowledgeable of Mosiac Law; he was a disciple of Gamaliel a high priest of the Sanhedrin. Paul while Saul diligently persecuted Christians as seen in the following scripture:

Acts 8:2, 3

2 On that day a great persecution broke out against the church at Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off men and women and put them in prison.

Before we look at Paul's conversion let look at some of things Paul witnessed as Saul the persecutor.

The beginning and increase of the Church of Christ:

Acts 2:42-47
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

Acts 6:7

7 So the word of God spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem increased rapidly, and a large number of priests became obedient to the faith.

The execution of a man that had no fear of man’s punishment:

Acts 7:55-60

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 "Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul.
59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." When he had said this, he fell asleep.

Now let’s examine Saul’s Conversion to Paul.

Acts 9:1-18

1 Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"
5 "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked.
6 "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."
7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.
10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, "Ananias!"
"Yes, Lord," he answered.
11 The Lord told him, "Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight."
13 "Lord," Ananias answered, "I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your saints in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name."
15 But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name."
17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord--Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here--has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit." 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul's eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

In the previous scripture we see Saul started out as vehemently as ever in the pursuit of Christians when he as we Christian like to say had that defining moment in his life. From this scripture the term “seen the light” has its roots. This experience was so awe inspiring Paul literally did a 180 degree turn in every aspect of his life. The culmination of what he believed to be blasphemous came to pass. Then all the preaching and lectures he heard from the Apostles of Christ begin to fall in place. At that moment as with all Christians, Paul had been baptized with the Holy Spirit and his heart was circumcised. Jesus had become real to Paul. Look at this scripture how Paul describes his conversion to other Jews:


Acts 22:1-21

1 "Brothers and fathers, listen now to my defense." 2 When they heard him speak to them in Aramaic, they became very quiet.
3 Then Paul said: "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city. Under Gamaliel I was thoroughly trained in the law of our fathers and was just as zealous for God as any of you are today. 4 I persecuted the followers of this Way to their death, arresting both men and women and throwing them into prison, 5 as also the high priest and all the Council can testify. I even obtained letters from them to their brothers in Damascus, and went there to bring these people as prisoners to Jerusalem to be punished.
6 "About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. 7 I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, 'Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?' 8 " 'Who are you, Lord?' I asked. 9 " 'I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,' he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me. 10 " 'What shall I do, Lord?' I asked. 11 " 'Get up,' the Lord said, 'and go into Damascus. There you will be told all that you have been assigned to do.' My companions led me by the hand into Damascus, because the brilliance of the light had blinded me. 12 "A man named Ananias came to see me. He was a devout observer of the law and highly respected by all the Jews living there. 13 He stood beside me and said, 'Brother Saul, receive your sight!' And at that very moment I was able to see him. 14 "Then he said: 'The God of our fathers has chosen you to know his will and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from his mouth. 15 You will be his witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.' 17 "When I returned to Jerusalem and was praying at the temple, I fell into a trance 18 and saw the Lord speaking. 'Quick!' he said to me. 'Leave Jerusalem immediately, because they will not accept your testimony about me.' 19 " 'Lord,' I replied, 'these men know that I went from one synagogue to another to imprison and beat those who believe in you. 20 And when the blood of your martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.' 21 "Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' "

So brother you see how Paul became the very thing he despised. It can also be said that though he persecuted Christians to death, there numbers kept increasing and they spread. It was almost an exercise in futility in trying to eliminate them. Paul had to see this. Notice the theme of three days again for the maturation of the spirit or the rebirth of the individual. So brother this is how Paul could hate Jesus and still became his Apostle.


Peace

Radical Faith


Frist I Must Say I Really Appreciate You Taking The Time To Answer My Threads And Helping My ReSearch And Study's So ThankYou Again Oh Yes By The Way ThankYou For Using Scriptures Its Help Me To OverStand Where Your Coming From . . I Have Found That 95% Of Christian Teaching Are Base On Salvation = All About Yashua Who They Claim Is God ! And 3 % Of The True Teaching Of The Bible . And 2 % Of It Being About The Nubians . I Know What Your Thinking The Scriptures Are Not About Nubian's Or White's Laughing Am I Right ;......
First of all Paul ( never ) was a discipleof Yashua ! He was sent as an Apostle to the Gentiles only . How do I kow ? According to The Holy Bible Paul said Yashua chose him as his instrument for carrying his teaching to the Gentiles who were ( not ) of the House of Israel
( Acts 9 ; 15 - 16 ) . However , in Revelation 11 ; 1 - 2 And I Quote '' And there was given me a reed like unto a rod ; and the angel stood , saying . Rise , and measure the temple of God ( Theos . Elohyeem ) . and the altar , and them that worship therein . But the court which is without the temple leave out , and measure it not ; for it is given unto the Gentiles ; and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months ''.
Notice howthe people outside of the temple were Left Out . Why ? Because they mixed their seed with the Gentiles , and they can only revive salation from the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel , the Holy Seed . So , as it says in Acts 9 ; 15 And I Quote '' But the Lord ( Kurios ) said unto him ( Paul ) , Go thy way ; for he is a chosen vessel unto me. to bear my name before the Gentiles , and kings . and the children of Israel . we know that this was not Yashua speaking , because the Book of Revelation by John son Zebeddee , written in the year 96 A.D. was revealed after the Book of Acts written by Luke ( was Paul inserts ) in the year 61 A.D. over thirty years later . Revelation was written after Paul's statement that Judean '' Jew '' and the Gentiles are the same as in Roman 3 ; 9 written in the year 56 A.D. . forty years before the book of Revelation . So why would Paul say that he was appointed a preacher , apostle and teacher of the Gentlies ( 2Timothy 1;11 ; 2; 7 ; when the point was made clear in Revelation 11 ; 1 - 2 , that you will be left out for mixing your seed with the Gentiles . Yet Paul went to the Gentiles anyway as hesaid he was , coming from his own mouth in , Acts 18 ; 6 , And I Quote '' And when they opposed themselves , and blasphemed , he shook his raiment , andsaid unto them , Your blood be upon your own heads ; I am clean ; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles ''.
Why do people believe that Paul was disciple ?
Paul was neither a disciple , follower , nor a supporter of Yashua Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' As a master of fact , Paul never met Yashua Directly Or Indirectly . However by way of an acclaimed vision , he has been able to swallow the whole world up in his new found version of Christianity , which is really Paulism - the doctrine of the Anti - Christ . Paul is the false prophet that Yashua mentioned in Matthew 7 ; 15 And I Quote '' Beware of false prophets , which comes to you in sheep's clothing . but inwardly they are ravening wolves ? Is This Nubians Christianity Or White Man's Christianity ? The followers of Yashua were called Messiahites , or Messehans , because he was called the Messiah first John 1 ; 41 , And I Quote '' He First Findeth His Own Brother Simon , And Said Unto Him We Have Found The Messias . Which Is , Being Interpreted , The Christ . '' The Is Why Nubians Are Called Messiahites meaning '' Followers Of The Messiah '' The Nubians ( Egyptians ) Islamic ( Peaceful ) Hebrew ( Israclites ) were Yashua followers . Yashua was in Egipt as a child . He said blessed are the peacemaker for they will be the children of God ( Theos , Elohyeem ) Matthew 5 ; 9 . And he is of the Tribe of Judah Israelite Hebrew . When you look up the word '' Christians '' Plural you find that it is only mentioned onece in theentire Holy Bible about Paul . And the word '' Christian '' singular is mentioned only twice , again with Paul , and the word '' Christianity '' is never mentioned at all in The Holy Bible . In Acts 11 ; 26 And I Quote '' And when he had found him , he brought him unto Antioch , And it came to pass , that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church , and taught much people And the disciples were called Christian first in Antioch '' ;.... And in Acts 26 ; 28 And I Quote '' Then Agrippa said unto Paul , Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian
See , in this verse Paul is trying to Persuade Agrippa into being a Christian . Paul converts people to Christianity . Agrippa meaning '' Hero -Like '' is the grandson of Herod the Great . Paul was trying to convert the grandson of Herod the Great , into a Christian . Paul is the one who first used the term Christian . He is the one who establishes the word Christian knowing that it comes comes from the Sanskrit word Krishna a Hindu God . Yashua never called himself a Christian , The next time the word Christian comes up in The Holy Bible is 1Peter 4 ; 16 And I Quote '' But if One Suffers As A Christian . Let Him Not Be Ashamed . But Let Him Glorify God ( Theos . Elohyeem ) Because Of This. '' When you look up the Greek word for Christian in 1Peter 4 ;16 , it is < Christianos > , and is interpreted as a follower of Christ . But we knowthat these are the followers of Paul . When you find the word '' Christian '' in Acts 11;26 as mentioned above , where the word Antioch is used , they are saying Syrin because Antioch is Syria founded by Seleucus Nicator , who is one of the successors of Alexander around 300 B.C. in memory of his father Antiouchus . In this verse ( Acts 11 ; 26 ) they have '' Church '' not Synagogue . Now read this closely because this is important . They assembled with a church before they were called '' Christian '' . So Whatever religion was in Antioch , those people called their building structures '' Churches '' And later the people that assembled with them picked up the term Christian and if you read around that quote , you will find out that this is referring to Paul and his followers . In John 9 ; 22 Yashua said that the judeans '' Jews '' will be cast out of the '' Synagogue '' They got together to destroy the synagogue . and they took Us Nubians the true Tribe of Israel Hebrews out of the '' Synagogue ( John 16 ; 2 ) and placed us in the church . called us '' Negroids '' Acts 13 ; 1 ;... gave Us Their Version of our way of life as a religion , '' Christianity '' and even gave us the image of the beast as Yashua . It is difficult for me to convince the Nubians that they are not the Goyim or Akum the Gentile , but that they in fact The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel , of the Tribe of Judah ( 2Kings 17 ; 6 ) And That They Took Nubains Out Of Synagogues And Put Us In The Word Church Which Means Assembly . Then made a law, unlawful . As to say it is unlawful for a group of people ( that they don't approve of ) to assemble . which many group got arrested for . What a Devil ! They took us away from the word Hebrew and made us called Ourselves '' Christian '' Like They Did In Antioch .

Ques: How could Paul turn from a strong opposer of Jesus to one of his disciples?


Ans: That’s a good question and the answer is simple. Paul never was a disciple of Jesus! How do I know? According to Paul, Jesus chose him as his instrument for carrying his teachings to the Gentiles who were not of the House of Israel (Acts 9:15-16). Paul’s acclaimed vision is the only evidence Paul could produce for his bid for the leadership of the new church Paul woul raise. No wonder the Jews were highly skeptical about the whole claim and would not listen to him. Let’s take a look in the Bible where Paul contradicts himself three times. This is the behavior of a liar. A liar has to repeat his lie two or more times with each version differing from the next until he ultimately proves himself a liar. He eventually reveals the truth he was trying to hide all along....


Contradiction One:


Acts 9:4-7: “And he fell down on that planet and heard a voice saying to him Saul, Saul why did you persecute me and he said who are you master; and the master said I am Jesus whom you persecuted it is hard for you to kick against the point. And he trembling and astonished said the master what will you have me to do? And the master said to him arise and go into the city and it shall be told to you what you must do. And the men who journeyed with him stood speechless hearing a voice but seen no man.'' ,,,And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man...In the above quote, Paul first says that he alone fell to the ground (Earth) and then he proceeds to say that the men who journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. ...


Contradiction Two:
Acts 22:7-9: “And I fell onto the ground and heard a voice saying to me Saul, Saul why are you persecuting me? And I answered who are you master and he said to me. I am Jesus of Nazareth whom you persecute. And they that were with me saw surely the force of light,. And were afraid but did not hear the voice of him that spoke to me. ..And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.'...Now, in this quote Paul says he alone fell to the ground. He proceeds to say that the men who were with him, saw the light, but heard not the voice of him who spoke. ...But he had just said in Acts 9:4-7, “those who journeyed with him, heard a voice, but saw not a man!”
We now go to Acts 26:13-14 to find the third contradiction. At this point, Paul is defending himself before King Agrippa; ..
Contradiction Three:
Acts 26:13-14: “At midday o ruler I saw in the way a force of light from the sky above the brightness of the halo shining around me and them which were traveling with me. And when we were all fallen down on that part of the planet Earth I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in a Hebrew dialect Saul, Saul, why did you persecute me? It's hard for you to kick against the sticks.' ..At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.''..Paul just said in Acts 9:4-7, and 22:7-9 that only he fell to the ground! ..After we listen to Paul’s contradictions, it makes it very difficult to believe that Paul..And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And I said, Who art thohad a vision. Paul is a liar and his own words confirm it (Romans 3:7)!

Having the behavior of a liar, as usual, Paul continued to prove himself a liar. In none of the other quotes had he said that Jesus spoke to him in the Hebrew tongue! However, in the following quote, Acts 26:16, Paul says that Jesus appeared to him to make him a minister. Is this why Paul thought he was supposed to be a disciple?



Acts 26:14-16: “And when we were all fallen down on that part of the planet Earth I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in a Hebrew dialect Saul Saul why did you persecute me? It’s hard for you to kick against the sticks. And I said who are you master and he said I am Jesus whom you persecute. ...But rise and stand upon your feet for I have appeared to you for this purpose to make you a servant and a witness both of these things which you have seen and of those things which I will make appear for you.” .Having the behavior of a liar, as usual, Paul continued to prove himself a liar. In none of the other quotes had he said that Jesus spoke to him in the
What does The Holy Bible say about '' Liars'' ?
That the truth is not found in a liar as it states in 1John 2 ; 4 - 6 , John 8 ; 44 Also speaks about liars '' :wb: :book:

IssaEl21
10-29-2004, 10:37 PM
Who Are The Zionist ???

Radical Faith
11-02-2004, 04:28 AM
Who Are The Zionist ???

The Zionist are a group of Europeans practicing Judaism who have cashed in the covenant with God of the Old Testiment pertaining to land promised to them by God when the Isralites were freed from bondage in Egypt. The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum 1890. The Zionist organization was started in 1897. It was called First Zionist Congress founded by Theodor Herzl and later the name was changed to the World Zionist Organization.

Biblically Zion means "a parched place" let's look at the first mention of Zion in the Old Testiment:

2 Samuel 5:6,7

6 The king and his men marched to Jerusalem to attack the Jebusites, who lived there. The Jebusites said to David, "You will not get in here; even the blind and the lame can ward you off." They thought, "David cannot get in here." 7 Nevertheless, David captured the fortress of Zion, the City of David.

Here's mention in the New Testiment:

Hebrew 12:22

22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

In both instances Zion is commonly throught to be Jerusalem. The Christians take on Zionist and Zionism is the Zion is the Holy City or the Kingdom of God. The new Zionist are those of the New Covenant in which Zion will come in the last days.

Revelation 14:1

1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.


Here's a question you if I may; What do the citizens of Israel call themselves Israeli instead of Israelite? Is there a Difference?

IssaEl21
11-07-2004, 12:16 PM
The Zionist are a group of Europeans practicing Judaism who have cashed in the covenant with God of the Old Testiment pertaining to land promised to them by God when the Isralites were freed from bondage in Egypt. The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum 1890. The Zionist organization was started in 1897. It was called First Zionist Congress founded by Theodor Herzl and later the name was changed to the World Zionist Organization.

Biblically Zion means "a parched place" let's look at the first mention of Zion in the Old Testiment:

2 Samuel 5:6,7

6 The king and his men marched to Jerusalem to attack the Jebusites, who lived there. The Jebusites said to David, "You will not get in here; even the blind and the lame can ward you off." They thought, "David cannot get in here." 7 Nevertheless, David captured the fortress of Zion, the City of David.

Here's mention in the New Testiment:

Hebrew 12:22

22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

In both instances Zion is commonly throught to be Jerusalem. The Christians take on Zionist and Zionism is the Zion is the Holy City or the Kingdom of God. The new Zionist are those of the New Covenant in which Zion will come in the last days.

Revelation 14:1

1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.


Here's a question you if I may; What do the citizens of Israel call themselves Israeli instead of Israelite? Is there a Difference?



Firstly , The word Zionism . comes from the Aramic / Hebrew word Zion or Tsiyuwn . Which is a Mountain of Jerusalem . It is derived from The Root word Ziya , meaning '' To Parch , Barren , Drought Solitary Place , Wilderness '' Zion is also known in the scriptures as The City Of David ( 2Samuel 5 ; 5 - 6 ) .
And I Quote . NeverTheLess < Daw - weed > David the beloved < Law - kad>
Took the strong < Eer > city of < Daw - weed > David ' The beloved .
Zionists Today consist of Jebusites ( Descendants of Libana's ( Canaan ) Third Son . Jebus [ Father of the Jebusites ] And Khazars ( Descendant of Canaan's Fourth Son - Amor [ Father of The Amorites '' Mountain Dwellers ] . Who are The German Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) of today . Neither of them have the right to claim Palestine as their homeland . The home of The Sons of Libana ( Canaan ) was Elbrus . Which comes from The Ashuric / Syriac word Abras , meaning '' Leper '' . Thus , the term Abracadabra Is a mystical word used in Incantaions or as A Charm To Ward Off Disesae . It was originally said as Abras Cadaver , Used to mean The Bodies Of Lepers ( Refer To '' The Holy Tablets '' Chapter Three , El Mustawathee'ya , The Scientist , Tablets Three , The Trustworthy , Verse 157 - 158 And I Quote
Thus the term Abracadabra , a mystical word has used in incantations or as a charm to ward off disease , Originally said Abras Cadaver used to mean the '' bodies of lepers '' . ;...Notice the word Lep - Rosy . Which is short for Roses , and is symbolic of '' The War Of The Roses . '' Which is a war that occurred In Europe In The 1400's Between The House Of York And The House Of Lancaster , The House Of York Had Long Used A White Rose As Its Emblem . And The House Of Lancaster Became Identified With A Red Rose .The Wars Began In 1455 A.D. With The Battle Of Saint Albans . And Ended In 1485 A.D. With The Battle Of Bosworth Field .
Now , back to the point . Libana ( Canaan ) Took His Sister / Wife Salha
( Who Was A Sumerian Moor ) . And sought refuge in The Mountains , Where The Light Was Dim . Libana's ( Canaan's ) Descendants were The Caucasians ( Carcass - Asian , Meaning '' Deteriorating Asiatics '' ) For 309 Years . Canaan , Salha And Canaan's Other 3 Wifes , An Anaqite , A Horite , And A Halaabean Flugelrod And Their Children . Along with their companions , The Halaabean Fluglrods Dwelled In The Caves Practicing All Sorts Of Vile Acts , While No One Knew That They Even Existed .
( Libana ( Canaan ) Son Of Ham And Haliyma ) . When they first went into The Caves , They had Knowledge of The Divine Commandments Of The ( Anunnaqi / Aluhum ( Genesis 26 ;5 / Koran 18; 10 , 13 ) . As time passed . The descendant of Libana ( Canaan ) Lost Consciousness of themselves and began to live a Beastly Way Of Life . They became Savages and remained in The Caucasus Mountains Unti Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham
( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ) Came Up Into The Mountian . ( Haliyma , mother of Libana / Canaan / Salha , sister / wife of Libana / Canaan / Jebus , son of Libana / Canaan and Shingarah / Amor , son of Libana / Canaan and Hitarah / Shingarh wife of Libana / Canaan / Hitarah , wife of Libana / Canaan ) ;...Jerusalem Was Originally Given To The Tribes Of Benjamin and Judah As An Inheritance But . The Jebusites Had Migrated There With Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). And Some Of Them Were Converted To Islaam . The Tribe Of Judah Was Unable To Push Out These Cursed Descendants Of Libana / Canaan . They Disregarded The Divine Commandments Of The Most High , Which Stated Not To Mix Their Seed With The Cursed Seed Of Libana / Canaan And Cohabited With Them Genesis 24 ; 3
Consequently They Received The Wrath Of The Most Hight .
Joshua 15 ;63 And I Quote . As for the < Yeb - oo - see > Jebusites '' Desolate '' The 3rd son of canaan and the 4th son of Ham who received the curse of Albinism Leprosy , The < Yaw - shab > Those who remain dwellers of < Yer -oo -shaw - lah - im > Jerusalem , The < Bane > Sons of < Yeh - hoo - daw > Judah < Yaw - kole > could not < Yaw - Rash > Dispossess them out ; But the
< Yeb - oo - see > Jebusites < Yaw- shab > Dwell remain with the < Bane > Sons of < Yeh - hoo - daw > Judah At < Yer - oo - shaw - lah ' - im > Jerusalem to < Zeh > This < Yome > Day .
As for The Jebusites '' Desolate '' The Dweller Of Jerusalem , Sons Of Judah Could Not Dispossess Them Out ; But The Jebusites Dwell With The Sons Of Judah At Jerusalem To This Day . ''
When The Israelites Re - Entered With David , They Destroyed The Jebusites
1Chronicles 11 ; 4 - 7 ;... They were savage pagans who worshippen all kinds of idols before converting to the Relifion of Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). Still they picked and chose what laws they would follow . The Khazar Hired teacher learnt in The Scriptures from Mesopotamia and Tama -Re [ Egypt ] to teach their children The Torah and Talmud . They couldn't produce all the sounds of The Hebrew Language so they developed Yiddish . Yiddish is a mixture of Hebrew and German and The So - called Jews
( Jebusites ) of Austria , Poland , Germany , And Israel Are Descendants Of Khazar . For Those Of You Who Need Confirmation From The Evil One . I Have Provided The Following Excerpts . Zionism was founded in the 19th century by a man name Moses Hess ( 1812 - A.D. - 1875 A.D. ) . A Jebusite Rabbi And Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. -1904 A.D. ) . A Journalist From Paris Moss Hess Founded The Hibbat Zion . Which Maintained More Of The Religious Aspects Of Judaism Than That Of Zionism ( Also Known As The First Congress ) . Which Was More Political Moses Hess Was A German Socialist . A Predecessor Of Moderm Zionism , And Father Of Zionist Socialism . He Was Born In Bonn . Germany . Both Groups Felt That In Order To Achieve Their Goal . Which Was To Gain A State ( Preferably Palestine ) . For The Jews ( Jebusites ) . They Would Have To Put Their Religous Aspects To The Side And Infiltrate Their Way Into Mainstream Society , Eventually Gaining World Wide Control In Both Social And Political Aspects . They Would Have To Appear As Normal And Sicial As The Rest Of The World , Instead Of Annihilating Themselves . So . You Have What Is Called The Reformed Jews .
In Revelation 13 ; 2 . It is talking about A Bear . The Bear Is Synbolic Of The Two '' Teddys '' . The First Of Which Was Theodor Herzl ( 1860 A.D. - 1904 Who Was The Founder Of Political Zionism And The Zionist Movement To Establish A Jewish Homeland . He Took The Task Of Leading Back The So-called Persecuted Jewish Masses Of The World To Palestine . The Root Of The Name Theodore Is The Greek Thehos . For '' The '' Or The Middle English '' Theos '' Which Translate To Be '' God '' This Explains Why He Thought He Could Accomplish Such A Mission .
Revelation 12 ; 2 , And I Q uote , And the < Thay - ree - on > Beast < Hos > Which I < I - do > Saw Was < Hom - oy - os > Like To A < Par - Dal - Is > Leopard and his < Pooce > Feet were as the < Pooce > Feet Of A < Ark - Tos
Bear and his < Stom A > Mouth as the < Stom a > Mouth Of A < Len - on > Lion ; And The < Drak - Own > Dragon < Did - O - Mee > Gave Him His
< Doo - Nam - Is > Power . And His < Thes - sal - on - ee - kay > Seat . And
< Meg - As > Great < Ex - oo - see - ah > Authority .
And The Beast Who I ( Yowkhanan Bar Zebeedee ) Saw Resembled A Leopard And His Feet Resembled The Feet Of A Bear And His Mouth As The Mouth Of A Lion And The Dragon Gave Him Power And He Has Great Authority '' Herzl was born in Budapest , Hungary , On May 2 , 1860 A.D. to a well to do family . It was Hezl's belief that the world would never accept the Jew . As long as this Nanacceptance ( Anti - Semitism ) Exist . The Jew would never be able to Co - Exist Peacefully will people of other Cultures . He Considered the only Alternative would be to find and organize A state of their own . Althoiugh Herzl Died of a heart ailment at the age of 44 . Forty Years before establishment of The State Of Israel , It Was he who origanized The Political Force That Made It Possible For It To Become A Reality . Herzl Was Originally Buried In Vienna . But According to his wishes . His remains Were moved To Jerusalem In 1949 A.D. And Entombed On A Hill Now Known As Mt . Herzl .
The Bear Is Also Representative Of Theodore Roosevelt ( 1858 A,D, - 1919 A.D. ) . The 26th Of The United States . Theodore Roosevelt's Campaign For The Prsidency Was Successful Because He Was Backed By The Affirmation Of J.P.Morgan & Co . Of New York And Drexel & Co . Of Philadelphia Both Of These Companies Were Affilated With The House Of Rothschild And Were Companies Of The Illuminati Together Morgan And Drexel Controlled The Election And Roosevelt Became President In 1901 A.D. He Was The First American President To Lead TheFight Against The Arabs . With TheDetermination To Prove Himself Right . He Had The U.S. Join Forces With Britain AndFrance Against Muslims For The Occupation Of Morocco .
Theodore Roosevelt was born in New York City On Octobers 27 . 1858 A.D. Of A Moderately Wealthy Family . He was known the world over as '' Teddy '' Because He Loved Bears . This Is Where The Term '' Teddy Bear '' Originated . As President Of The United States . Roosevelt Serve As Eventgul Term . He was known for his Impulsiveness and his penchant for '' Bullying '' Smaller . Helpless Nations . It was while he was in office that The United States Acquired The Panama Canal Zone From Columbia In 1902 A.D. And Stated Construction Of The Canal In 1904 A.D. The Philippines Was Also Acquired By The United States Under Roosevelt's Supervision . Roosevelt Also Firmly Established Secert Agencies Such As The Federal Bureau Of Investigation ( F.B.I. ) And The Central Intelligence Agency ( C.I.A. ) . Although He Was In Favor Of An International Peacekeeping Organization . He Adamantly Opposed Woodrow Wilson's Proposal Of A League Of Nations ( The Predeccessor Of The United Nations ) . Theodore Roosevelt Died Suddenly In His Sleep On January 6 , 1919 A.D. The Second '' Bear '' Was A Representative Of Four - Star Army , General H . Norman Schwarzkopf . He Was Commander Of All The American And Allied Forces In Saudi Arabia . He Was Referred To By The Nicknames '' The Bear '' Or Stormin Norman . But He Prefered Being Called The Bear '' . 1983 A.D. He Forsaw The Possiblity That The United States Might One Day Find HerSelf At '' War In The Middle East . If A So - Called Unfriendly Nation Succeeded In Taking Over A Neighbor . His Colleagues Insist That Norman Schwarzkopf Is This Generation's Mc Arthur . He Got The Tactical Brilliance Of George Smith Patton . The Strategic Insight Of Eisenhower And The Modesty Of General Omar Nelson Bradley . He Is Known To Have Such Temper Tantrums That When It Erupts . He Starts Yelling And Cursing And Throwing Things . A West Point Graduate And Old Friends Says That He Saw Himself As A Successor To Alexander The Great . His Favorite Battles Were The Battle Of Cannae In Which Hannibal , An African - American , Son Of Hamilcar Barca . In 216 A.D. Crushed The Forces Of Rome . He's Always Had The Dream Of Leading His Country's Forces Into A Major Battle .
Why Did They Choose The '' Zionism ?
Zion is often used in The Place of The Holy City , Jerusalem . When The Luciferians use The Word '' Zionism '' . Is Is A Subliminal Protection For Them . I Know You Are Anti -Zion Or Zionism . '' Then They Are Subliminally Trying To Say That You Are Against All That Is Holy For The Scriptures , The Messiah , The Ark Of The Covenant . The Law . Even The Prence Of The Most High . So If You Oppose Them . Then Your Are Opposing All That Is Holy . Or Sanctioned By The Most High ( The Christian Plays This Game Also > If You LQQk At The Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic Word Zain . It Is The Same Word As The Aramic / HebrewWord Zion , Which Means '''Fornication , Abomination '' . But Rather TheTen First Letters Thus , Six , Six , Six , Is Zaiyn . Zaiyn . Zaiyn . Simply Zionist , The Rothchilds . Benjamin Disraeli , Moses Montefiore , Rabbi Kalisher Of Thorn , Moses Hess , Karl Marx , Arnold Ruge , Jacob Venedy , Frederrick Lassalle , Gabriel Risser , Lord Reading Isaacs , Hebret Samuel , Asher Ginsberg . Nathan Birnbaum , Theodre Hezl , Mack Norday , Chaim Weizmann , Nahum Sokolow , Louis Brandeis . Alfred Mond , Samuel Untermeyer , Leon Blum , Albert Einstein , Helen Blavatsky , Adam Weishaupt . Martinez Pasqualy , George Felt , Albert Pike , Adolph Hitler . King Saud , And Richard S . Nidxon, Thirty Of Them In All And Their Many Sons , Daughters And Devotees Zion Zion Zion , Six Six Six . Ze-lyon , TheNucleus Of Light And Fire . The Greek Word For Zion Is Xiun Xiun Xiun = 666 .
This is how The Jebusites ( Jew ) work through subliminal suggestions . He does things like put The Holocaust incident on Television every year to remind people of their sufferings. The protect them from Anti - Zionism . The Jebusite ( Jew ) claims that The Quote In Genesis 12 ; 3 And I Quote ; '' And I will bless them that bless thee , and curse him that curseth thee ; and in thee shall all familes of the earth be blessed ; .
Where Yahuwa Blessed Abraham [ Ab - ( Heart ) - Ra ( Sun Deity ) - Ham ( Kemet Or Kham - For Blackness Or Majecty ) ] ( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ). Son Of Terah , And I Quote ; '' AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSED HIM '' , Applies To Them . Christians Also believe this lie . Andfeel this is the reason that they ( Must Aid The State Of Israel , For If They Oppose Them , Then They Would Be Cursed . This Quote Was Referring To Abraham
( Heart Of The Majesty Of Re ) , Only , Not The So-Called Jew . Genesis Further Tells You By Abraham , All Families Of The Earth Are Blessed . The Is Referring To The Jebusite Because The BibleAlready Tells You That They Were A Cursed Seed From Libana ( Canaan ) And A Descendant Of The Halaabean ( Flugelrods ) .
Why Are The Jebusite So Interested In Jerusalem ?
Jerusalem .. They Believe , Is Where The Messiah Is Going To Appear In The End Isaiah 27 ; 13 , And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass in that day . that the great trumpet shall be blown and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria , and the outcasts in the land of Egypt , and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem .
So They Think That If They Rebuild The Temple Of Solomon 2Chronicles 3; 1 , That They Will Have A Chance To The Covenant , And The Messiah Would Come For Them . My Own ReSearch Work Has Caused Me To Accept The Document Publish By Professor Nilus In Russia In 1905 A.D. As The Jewish Peril '' . And By Mr . Marsden In England In 1921 A.D. As '' The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion '' . Are The Long Range Plan Of The ILLUMINATI Which Was Explained By Amschel Rothschild To His Associates In Frankfurt In 1773 A.D. As Recorded In Chapter 3 Of This Book . Rothschild Was Not Addressing Rabbis And Elders . He Was Addressing Bankers , Industrialists , Scientists , Economists . Etc . Mention Is Also Made Saying How It Was Intended To Used Political Zionism To Serve The Purpose Of Those Who Direct The W.R.M. In The Future , The ILLUMINATI The Document Outlines How Zionism Shall Be Aided To Read Its Objectives . Theodor Herzl Was The Founder Of The Official Zionist Movement ..

IssaEl21
11-07-2004, 12:27 PM
The Zionist are a group of Europeans practicing Judaism who have cashed in the covenant with God of the Old Testiment pertaining to land promised to them by God when the Isralites were freed from bondage in Egypt. The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum 1890. The Zionist organization was started in 1897. It was called First Zionist Congress founded by Theodor Herzl and later the name was changed to the World Zionist Organization.

Biblically Zion means "a parched place" let's look at the first mention of Zion in the Old Testiment:

2 Samuel 5:6,7

6 The king and his men marched to Jerusalem to attack the Jebusites, who lived there. The Jebusites said to David, "You will not get in here; even the blind and the lame can ward you off." They thought, "David cannot get in here." 7 Nevertheless, David captured the fortress of Zion, the City of David.

Here's mention in the New Testiment:

Hebrew 12:22

22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

In both instances Zion is commonly throught to be Jerusalem. The Christians take on Zionist and Zionism is the Zion is the Holy City or the Kingdom of God. The new Zionist are those of the New Covenant in which Zion will come in the last days.

Revelation 14:1

1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.


Here's a question you if I may; What do the citizens of Israel call themselves Israeli instead of Israelite? Is there a Difference?



Because The First Time The Word Israel '' Appears In The 5 Books Of Of Moses Is In Genesis 32; 28 , There Jacob , The Son Of Isaac And Rebbeca , The Second Of A Twins , Whose Twin's Name Was Esau , Was Having His Named Changed From Jacob To Israel ,, The Next Time We Hear That Same Word Israel '' Is In The Exact Same Chaqpter , But In A Later Verse , Genesis 32; 32 , Where Is Refers To The '' Children Of Israel '' . This Would Mean, According To These Scripture , Not Interpretations , But Factually , That The Chrildren Of Israel Are Jacob's Immediate Family , Meaning Jacob's 12 Sons And I Daughter Who Also Because Known As Tribes Of Israel , Are Simply The Children Of Jacob ; Nothing More .. It Is Clear That The Name Israel Is Not Describing A Tribe That All Of The Descendants Of The Bible From Adam Down To The Present Day Can Claim They Are Members Of . In Fact , The Statement '' The Tribe Of Israel '' Can Not Be Found In The Bible Anywhere ! However , We Do Find In Genesis 49 ; 16 The Tribes ( Plural ) Of Israel . And This Can Be Found 52 Times Throughout The Bible . This In No Way Negates The Fact That Nobody Before Jacob Was An Israelite Or Of The Tribe Of Israel . In That Respect , To One Was Called A '' Hebrew '' Before Abraham , Who In Genesis 14 ; 13 Was Called A Hebrew . This Leaves The Question ; '' What Was Adam To Noah And All The People Between , If There Was No Hebrew Before Genesis 14; 13 Where Abraham Is Called A Hebrew .. And There Was No Used Of The Word Israelite '' Before Numbers 24 ; 14 Or Anyone Being Called Israel Before Genesis 32; 28 , As Many Have Been Deceived Into Believeing For So Many Thousands Of Years , But Again , Just Like In The Case Of Abraham And The Word Hebrew , The Word ' Israel '' Is Describing An Incident Of A Messenger Of God Or Angel As You May Say . Prevaling Over Jacob In A Fight . So To Say '' The Tribe Of Israel '' Is Incorrect . There Is No Such Thing As The Tribe Of Israel Mentioned In That Form Anywhere In Their Bible . And There Was No Land Originally Called Israel . There Was No Land Name After Jocob In Is Time . The Land That Is Being Called Israel '' Is The Land Of Canaan Name After A Son Of Ham , Son Of Noah , In Genesis 9 ; 18 The Land Of Canaan Was Given The Name Israel May 15 , 1948 A.D. [ To Further Deceive People Into Thinking That Is Was Their Land By Right Because Their God , Yahweh As They Call Him Gave Them The Canaanites Land , In Leviticus 25 ; 38 And Genesis 17 ; 8 In This Quote Their God Takes The Canaanites Land And Just Gives It To Abraham's Family . First Genesis 11; 31 Where Terah Abraham's Father Takes His Family Into The Land Of Canaan First , And Again In Genesis 13;12 , Where It Confirms That Abraham Lived In These People's Land , And Now These Same People Who He Lived Amongst , He Schemes To Take Thier Land . So There Was No Original Land Of Abraham's Or Isaac's Or Jacob's There Was No Israel .. Israel Is Stolen Land And It Went Down In History As Being Original , Just As Other Lies Have Gone Down In History As Being Facts
Were The Descendants Before Abraham Hebrew Israelites ?
I Mean These People >>> Adam Genesis 2; 19 >> Eve Genesis 3;20 >>> Cain - Son Of Adam And Eve >> Abel - Son Of Adam And Eve Genesis 4; 2 >>Enoch - Son Of Jared Genesis 4; 17 >>Lamech - Son Of Methuselah Genesis 4 ; 18 >>>
Seth - Son Of Adam Eve Genesis 4 ; 25 >>>Enos - Son Of Seth Genesis 4; 26 >>>
Cain- Son Of Enos Genesis 5 ;9 >>Mahalaleel - Son Of Cainan Genesis 5 ; 12 >>Jared - Son Of Mahaleel Genesis 5 ;15 >>> Methuselah - Son Of Enoch Genesis 5 ; 21 >>Noah - Son Of Lamech Genesis 5; 29 >>Ham - Son Of Noach Genesis 5 ; 32 >> Shem - Son Of Noach Genesis 5 ;32 >> Japheth - Son Of Noah Genesis 5; 32
>>> Elam - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >>> Asshur - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >>> Asshur - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >> Arphaxad - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >>> Lud - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >>> Aram - Son Of Shem Genesis 10; 22 >>>Salah - Son Of Arphaxad Genesis 11 ; 13 >>> Eber - Son Of Salah Genesis 10; 21 >> Peleg - Son Of Eber Genesis 11; 16 >> Reu - Son Of Peleg Genesis 11 ; 18 >>> Serug - Son Of Reu >> Genesis 11 ; 20 >>> Nahor - Son Of Serug Genesis 11; 22 >>Terah - Son Of Nahor Genesis 11;24 ... What Was The Religion Of These People ? All Of These People Were Before Abraham Genesis 17;5 , So They Are Not Hebrews. So What Were They ? The Childern Of Jacob Because Based On Genesis 32; 28 , Jacob's Name Was Changed To Israel And Anyone Who Was Born Genesis 32; 28 , Jacob's Name Was Changes To Israel And Anyone Who Was Born Before That Was Not Of The Children Of Jacob , Thus They Could Not Have Been Israelites . As I Already Explined , The First Time Out Of The 2,293 Times '' Israel '' Appears In The Bible .. In Genesis 32; 38 AndIt Refers To Somebody Changing Jacob's Name To Israel . The Next Time It Appears Is In The Same Chapter , In Genesis 32; 32 And You Get The Chrilren Of Israel . This Is Talking About Jacob's Chrildren Only . His Immediate Family

Are Hebrew And Israelites The Same People ?
hey Will Lie And Say They Are One Same .. However , As I Just Explained To You , To Call Yourself a Hebrew Israelite Would Be Saying One Who Crossed Over , Because God Prevailed Over Them Or Won Over Them . . And That Doesn't Make Sense . Not To Mention What You Just Real And If An Israelite Is A Person That Lives By The Law And 1Commandment Of The Scritures To The Letter . Then There Are None Today That Are Following These Scripture And Every Law In Them To The Letter . The Will Tell You . It A New Day And Time And We Wear These New Modern Clothes And We Eat This New Modern Way And We Don't Have To Keep All Of The Old Laws What I'm Saying Is They'll Make Up All Kinds Of Excuses To Justify Their Created Form Of Living .
Now You Can Ask The Hebrew Israelites What Is His Or Her Nationality .
They Will Say That They Are Hebrew , Or Hebrew Israelites !
However . If They Can Stand It , As I Just Proved To You In Your Own Language That Most Of You Do Not Not Speak Fluently . The Word Hebrew That Translates To The Aramic Word Ibriy From The Aramic Hebrew Root Word Abar Means To Cross Over . Which Is The Same As The Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic Word Abara . Which , As You Can See Hebrew Was Just An Action That Took Place . Just As What Abraham Did Was Cross Over A River . And The Canaanites Call Him And His Family Chaldeans . Hebrew In Their Own Language Genesis 14; 13 . That Wasn't His Nationality . So Why Is It Yours ? If You Follow Abraham And His Family . You Are Really Chaldeans As He Was Genesis 11 ; 31 Genesis 15; 7 ..

Is The Word '' Jew '' Used For The Descendants Of The Tribe Of Judah ?
The Name '' Jew '' Is Really A Yiddish Word . This Name Was Created By Two Groups Of Jew; The Sephardim And Ashkenazim . The Ashkenazim Were Originally Khazars From Russia Who Coverted And Picked Up The Name Ashkenazim ( Genesis 10; 3 <<>>>The Gomerites ; Descendants Of Gomer '' Completion ; Ashkenazites ; Decendants Of Ashkenaz '' A Fire That Spreds ; Rifathites ; Descendants Of And Rifath ( Riphath ) '' Spoken ' And Togarmaahites ; Descendants Of Togarmah '' All Bone , Strong '' << Original Aramic
And Used It As Their Own When In Fact They Were From The Seed Of Canaan , Not The Seed Of Gomer Meaning '' Completion '' And Riphath Meaning '' Speaker Or Spoke '' And Togarmah Meaning '' Bony , Strong '' Ashkenaz In Hebrew Is Meaning '' The Spreader Of The Fire '' He Was The Son Of Gomer , Son Of Japheth .One Of The Triples Sons Of Noah . Ashkenaz Was The First Son Named Of The Three Sons Of Gomer , The Son Of Japheth Genesis 10; 3 And A Kingdom Associated With Ararat ( Turkey ) And Minni . Now - A - Days The Name Is Falsely Applied To The Jew Of Germany ( Aryans ) Europeans Of Northern France ( France )
Europeans From The Tenth Century On . In The Middle Of The 16th Ceturt . The Term Ashkenazim Came To Include The Jews Of Eastern Europe As Well . . The Fake Ashkenazim ( Khazars ) Have Developed A Set Of Distinctive Customs And Rituals , Different From Those Os The Sephardim ; The Fake Jews From Spain , Portugal , The Mediterranean Countries And North Africa . They Mixed With The Seed Of Joktan Who Was The Son Of Eber ( Hud ) Son Of Salah , Son Of Arphaxad . All Of The Sons Of Shem ( Genesis 10 ; 21 - 32 ) . The Original Shemite
( Semetic ) One Of The Triples Sons Of Noah , Had Very Dark Brown Skin With Woolly Hair . ( Gomer Son Of Japheth And Ifat ) Genesis 10; 2 ... Ashkenaz Son Of Gomer Genesis 10 ; 3 ... Salah ( 2335 - 1902 B.C.E. ) Son Of Arphaxad Genesis 10; 24 ..... Eber ( 2305 - 1841 B.C.E. ) Son Of Salah And Barra Genesis 10; 21
Joktan Son Of Eber Genesis 10; 25 ...Sephardim Comes From The Word Sepharad Meaning '' Separated ( Refer To Obadiah 1 ; 20 ... Sephardim Is Said To Mean
'' Spaniards '' . They Want You To Think They Are Real . They Are The Jews Of Spanish And Portuguese Origin Responsible For The Slave Trade . The Customs , Rituals . Synagogue Services , And Hebrew Pronunciation Of The Sephardim Differ From Those Of The Ashkenazim . So You Have One Group , The Spaniards Saying They Are Of Shem's Sons And Use Sephardim And They Are Liars , And You Also Have Europeans Of Many Other Lands Saying They Are Of Japheth's Sons And They Are Also Liars . They Are The Temples , Or Synagogues Of Satan Revelation 2 ; 9 . They Were Expelled From Spain By The Inquisition Of 1492 A.D. The Fake Sephardim Were Scattered Throughout The Mediterranesn World , Along The North Coast Of Africa , The Turkish Empire, The Balkans . Where Even They Went , They Established The Sephardic Ways And Rituals . The Marranos , Or Secret Jews , Transported Their Customs To The New World . The Real Sephardim Are In Yemen , Morocco , Sudan , Ethiopa , And America As American Negroes And The Real Ashkenazim Are In Ethiopia And Mixed With The Nigerians ( Ebo ) And The Ashanti And Also In America As American Negroes As Well As All Over The Caribbeans , This Thread Is Not To Be Take As Racism For If One Truely Want Truth And Knowledge Of History All One Has To Is Research For Themself [ Keyword Here Is Research ]

IssaEl21
11-07-2004, 09:26 PM
What The Word Hebrew Mean And Where Does It Come From ?

Radical Faith
11-10-2004, 12:50 AM
What The Word Hebrew Mean And Where Does It Come From ?


I'm sorry brother for taking so long to answer you question, between responding in other forums, tending my prison ministry, preparing sunday school lessons and researching you answers time has been tight. Without going into great detail, Hebrew(YRB) comes from Eber or Heber(RB) who was the son of Shelah or Salah and the great grandson of Shem.

Genesis10:22-24

22 The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram.
23 The sons of Aram: Uz, Hul, Gether and Meshech.
24 Arphaxad was the father of Shelah, and Shelah the father of Eber.

The name Eber or Heber(RB) means: A Region or Land Beyond. From the children of Eber were called Hebrew meaning: One from Beyond. This is significant because these are the Semetic descendants that God choose to be his people.

Genesis12:1-3

1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you. 2 "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Abram was Eber's great great great great grandson born in Ur of the Chaldeans. By this scripture God has great plans for Abram. Later through Abram who was rename Abraham his grandson Jacob fathered 12 sons later to become to tribes of Israel or Israelites. In all this the Hebrew traditions still remains to this day.

Peace

Radical Faith

P.S. You still haven't answered my question yet.

IssaEl21
11-10-2004, 04:49 PM
[QUOTE=Radical Faith]The Zionist are a group of Europeans practicing Judaism who have cashed in the covenant with God of the Old Testiment pertaining to land promised to them by God when the Isralites were freed from bondage in Egypt. The term Zionism was coined by Nathan Birnbaum 1890. The Zionist organization was started in 1897. It was called First Zionist Congress founded by Theodor Herzl and later the name was changed to the World Zionist Organization.

Biblically Zion means "a parched place" let's look at the first mention of Zion in the Old Testiment:

2 Samuel 5:6,7

6 The king and his men marched to Jerusalem to attack the Jebusites, who lived there. The Jebusites said to David, "You will not get in here; even the blind and the lame can ward you off." They thought, "David cannot get in here." 7 Nevertheless, David captured the fortress of Zion, the City of David.

Here's mention in the New Testiment:

Hebrew 12:22

22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

In both instances Zion is commonly throught to be Jerusalem. The Christians take on Zionist and Zionism is the Zion is the Holy City or the Kingdom of God. The new Zionist are those of the New Covenant in which Zion will come in the last days.

Revelation 14:1

1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.


Here's a question you if I may; What do the citizens of Israel call themselves Israeli instead of Israelite? Is there a Difference?[/QUOTE



They Call Themself Israeli Again These Are Titles ,
Sorry For Not Answering The Question . I Though I Did In The Thread .
Again Thankyou For Takeing Time For Answering My Question Again There No Rush .

IssaEl21
11-10-2004, 04:59 PM
I'm sorry brother for taking so long to answer you question, between responding in other forums, tending my prison ministry, preparing sunday school lessons and researching you answers time has been tight. Without going into great detail, Hebrew(YRB) comes from Eber or Heber(RB) who was the son of Shelah or Salah and the great grandson of Shem.

Genesis10:22-24

22 The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram.
23 The sons of Aram: Uz, Hul, Gether and Meshech.
24 Arphaxad was the father of Shelah, and Shelah the father of Eber.

The name Eber or Heber(RB) means: A Region or Land Beyond. From the children of Eber were called Hebrew meaning: One from Beyond. This is significant because these are the Semetic descendants that God choose to be his people.

Genesis12:1-3

1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you. 2 "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Abram was Eber's great great great great grandson born in Ur of the Chaldeans. By this scripture God has great plans for Abram. Later through Abram who was rename Abraham his grandson Jacob fathered 12 sons later to become to tribes of Israel or Israelites. In all this the Hebrew traditions still remains to this day.

Peace

Radical Faith

P.S. You still haven't answered my question yet.


What Is The Meaning Of The Word Hebrew And Where Did It Come From ?
The Word Hebrew , In Aramic , Is The Word Ibriy Which Comes From The Root Word Abar . Which Means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' In The Aramic / Hebrew Language , In Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic , The Word Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Traverses And Ebra Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' '' Traversing '' As Used In The Person To Whom The Name Was Given Fiest . Was Eber , Son Of Salah , Son Of Shem , Son Of Noah , As Found In Genesis 10 ; 21
Noah ( 2970 -2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah Genesis 5; 29 ..
Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah Genesis 5;32
The Name Eber , Also Abar , Ay - Ber And Heber , Means The Region Beyond ''
From This You Get The Derivative Of Eber , Hebrew , To Mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' Genesis 14 ; 13 And That's Just What Hebrew Means '' To Cross Over ,
Is The Word Hebrew , The Name Of A Tribe Or A People
According To Deuteronomy 15; 12 , In The Strong's Concordance The Word '' Hebrew '' Ibriy Is Not The Name Of A Tribe Or A People . Hebrew Is Just A Title For What Abraham And His People Did Not What They Were . The Word Hebrew Is Merely Describing An Acts Of A People Or A Person ; Moving From One Side To Another , And Could Apply To People Originally Born On One Side Of The Mississippi River , And Deciding To Relocate To The Other Side Of The Mississippi River . In English They Would Be Called '' Crossed Over '' In The Canaanite Language They Would He Called Hebrew , Which Later Was Picked Up And Because Their Name . As You Have Seen , The Name '' Hebrew '' Existed Before Abraham With A Man Name Eber . People Think That The Word Hebrew Stems From The Word Hebron Genesis 13; 18 The Name Of A Place In The Hill Of Judah South Of Jerusalem Where Sarah Died Genesis 23 ; 2 . However , If You Check It Out In The Original Language . You See It Does Not . Now Take A Look At The Word Ibriy . The First Letter Aiyn Is The Hard A Or I In Hebrew . The Root Of Ibriy Is Abar
Meaning '' To Cross Over '' Whereas . The Root Of 'Hebron ' Chebrown Pronounced Khebronee '' Is Cheber Meaning '' A Society ; Also A Spell , Charmer , Enchatment '' These Two Words Do Not Have The Same Root , Therefore , You Can See That They Are Not The Same Word By Their Roots
What Is The Meaning Of The Word '' Israel '' And Where Did Come From ?
The Word '' Israel '' Yisra'el Pronounced Yis - Raw - Ale In Aramic / Hebrew , And Israa'el In Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic Means El Prevails '' As If God Could Lose . In This Case , The Translation Of Israel . Which Would Be '' God Prevails Or Won '' Is First Used In Genesis 32; 38 As The Name Of Jacob ( Koran 2; 132 - 133 ) Then As A Nation Koran 2; 47-53 In Reference To Jacob , Son Of Isaac , Son Of Abraham , Who Was Running From His Brother Esau In Fear , For His Life .
Genesis 32; 38 ...
Jacoh ( 1918 - 1771 B,C.E, ) Son Od Isaac And Rebekah ( Genesis 25; 26 )
Jocob Was Running From Esau , Because Of An Evil Act That He And His Mother Rebekah Commited . By Straling Esau's Brithright ( Genesis Chapter 27 ) And Deceiving Their Father Issac , In His Old Age In Blindness ( Genesis 27 ; 1 )
Isaac ( 1978 - 1798 B.C.E ) Son Of Abraham And Sarah ( Genesis 17; 19 )
Rebekah Daughter Of Bethu'el And Zigiaq ( Genesis 22; 23 ) ..
In The Process Of Trying To Run From His Brother Esau . Jacob Was Stopped By What Follwers Of The King James Bible , Called An Angel , That Was Obviously In Human Frorm , In Order For Jacob To Be Able To Wrestle Whith Him , And In Genesis 32 ; 24 Jaocb Wrestled With An '' Eesh Meaning '' Male Living Being , Physical Man ; An Angel Who Wrestled And Caused Jacob's Thigh To Go Out Of Joint Genesis 32; 25 Before Blessing Him And Chaning His Name From Jacob To Israel Genesis 32; 28 ...

How Can '' Hebrew '' And '' Israelites '' Be One In The Same When The Word Hebre ?
If They Were , They Would Know That The Word '' Hebrew '' Is A Title That Was Attributed To Abraham When He Traveled From Ur Of Chaldees , And Crossed A Strip Of Land Called Mesopotamia , Which Is Nestled Between The Tigris - Euphrates River . Abraham Son Of Terah ( Genesis 11; 27 ) He Was Attributed The Title '' Hebrew '' When He Traveled From Ur Of Chaldees And Crossed The Mesoptamia Genesis 14; 13 Abraham Was In Route To The Land Of The Canaaites . Which Was Promised To Him And His Descendants Who Were Destined To Come From His Seed For An Everlasting Possession Genesis 17; 8 . Abraham Met A Group Of Phoenician - Canaanites ( The Canaanite Tribe Of Sidon Who Mixed In With The Assyrians ) Who Witnessed Abraham Crossing The Tigris - Euphrates , And Referred To Him And His Family As Ibriy '' One Who Passed Over , Joseph , Son Of Jacob , Son Of Isaac , Son Of Abraham . Was Also Called A '' Hebrew '' In Genesis 39 ; 14 ...In Genesis 32 ; 31 The Word '' To Pass Over '' Is The Hebrew Word Abar Meaning '' To Crossover '' And In Arabic ,, You Have The Same Word Containing The Same Letters ; '' Aiyn '' Beh '' Rah '' Abara Meaning The Other Side Or Cross Over '' Which Is The Same Root The Word Hebrew Comes From Genesis 32; 31 .. In This Quote , It Is Referring To When Jacoh , The Father Of Israel , Passed Over [ From The Abar ] The River , From One Side To The Other . ..

IssaEl21
11-10-2004, 05:04 PM
Ques Why Did Yashua Isa Jesus Christ Come ?

Radical Faith
11-12-2004, 06:10 AM
Ques Why Did Yashua Isa Jesus Christ Come ?


A. The slaughter of Jesus' flesh was the atonement of the sins of mankind.

Isaiah 53:3-6

3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

Matthew 3:1-3

1In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea 2and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near." 3This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
"A voice of one calling in the desert,
'Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.' "

B. To prove the existence of the living God by his presences, through miracles, teachings and testimony.

Matthew 3:16-17

16As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Matthew 4:23-25

23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people. 24 News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill with various diseases, those suffering severe pain, the demon-possessed, those having seizures, and the paralyzed, and he healed them. 25 Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him

Matthew 17:1-5

1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah."
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!"


C. To prove life after physical death by his triumphant resurrection.

Matthew 28:1-10

1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
5 The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you."
8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me."


D. To commission men to build the kingdom of God by establishing his church to minister to the needs of mankind so that all mankind know salvation.


Matthew 16:17-19

17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Matthew 28

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

E. To return to claim his people from the decaying world in the end.


Revelations 19:7-10

7Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
8Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear." (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)
9Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!' " And he added, "These are the true words of God."
10At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

Revelations 22:12-14

12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city

F. To cast Satan and his children into the abyss of eternal damnation.

Revelations 20:7-10

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever

Revelations 20:11-15

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Heres a question for you what and where is the kingdom of God?

Peace

Radical Faith

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A. The slaughter of Jesus' flesh was the atonement of the sins of mankind.

Isaiah 53:3-6

3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

Matthew 3:1-3

1In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea 2and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near." 3This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
"A voice of one calling in the desert,
'Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.' "

B. To prove the existence of the living God by his presences, through miracles, teachings and testimony.

Matthew 3:16-17

16As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Matthew 4:23-25

23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people. 24 News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill with various diseases, those suffering severe pain, the demon-possessed, those having seizures, and the paralyzed, and he healed them. 25 Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him

Matthew 17:1-5

1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah."
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!"


C. To prove life after physical death by his triumphant resurrection.

Matthew 28:1-10

1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men.
5 The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you."
8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me."


D. To commission men to build the kingdom of God by establishing his church to minister to the needs of mankind so that all mankind know salvation.


Matthew 16:17-19

17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Matthew 28

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

E. To return to claim his people from the decaying world in the end.


Revelations 19:7-10

7Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
8Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear." (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)
9Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!' " And he added, "These are the true words of God."
10At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

Revelations 22:12-14

12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city

F. To cast Satan and his children into the abyss of eternal damnation.

Revelations 20:7-10

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever

Revelations 20:11-15

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Heres a question for you what and where is the kingdom of God?

Peace

Radical Faith

Ques Why Did Yashua Isa Jesus Christ Come ?
Ans ; First Let Me Make SomeThing Clear . What They Don't Tell You Is That Yashua ' Bar Miriam , Isa Waled Maryam Known As The Real Jesus Of 2000 Years Ago Was Raised Up In Israel Out Of The Seed Of Daveed , Dawud , David ,
Acts 13 ; 22 - 23 ;...After removing Saul, he made David their king. He testified concerning him: 'I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.' "From this man's descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised
To Come Into The World To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel Only Matthew 15 ; 24 . And The Reason Why Yashua , Isa , Jesus Came According To The Scripture Was Put Ever So Clearly In 1John 3 ; 8 ;... He That Committeth Sin Is Of The Devil ; For The Devil Sinneth From The Beginning . For this purpose the Son of God was manifested , that he might destroy the works of the devil .
The Purpose Of The Coming Of Haru Pa Messeh <> Yashua Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih <> Jesus The Messiah '' Christ '' Is Also Mentioned In The Book Of Luke ;
The Holy Bible Luke 4 ; 17 19 ;.... And There Was Delivered Unto Him The Book Of The Prophet Esaias , And When He Had Opened The Book , He Found The Place Where It Was Written The Spirit of the Lord ( Kurios , Adonai ) is upon me because hehath anointed me to preach the gospel to thepoor ; he hath sent me to heal the brokenearted , to preach deliverance to the captives , and recovering of sight to the blind to set at liberty them that are bruised , The preach the acceptable year of the Lord ( Kurios , Adonai ) .
Make Note That When They Say Seed Of Daveed , Dawud , David In ...
John 7 ; 42 ;...42Still others asked, "How can the Christ come from Galilee? Does not the Scripture say that the Christ will come from David's family and from Bethlehem, the town where David lived
In This Verse The Greek Word For Seed Is Sperma Which Simply Means Semen , Sperm '' So In Fact . It Says That Yashua , Isa , Jesus Would Be From The Sperm Of Daveed , Dawud David , And If We LQQk At Matthew 1 ; 1 - 15 ;....A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar, Perez the father of Hezron, Hezron the father of Ram,
4Ram the father of Amminadab, Amminadab the father of Nahshon, Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab, Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth, Obed the father of Jesse, 6and Jesse the father of King David. David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife, 7Solomon the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa, 8Asa the father of Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram, Jehoram the father of Uzz 9Uzziah the father of Jotha Jotham the father of Ahaz, Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, 10Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, Manasseh the father of Amon, Amon the father of Josiah, 11and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon. 12After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel, Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, 13Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, Abiud the father of Eliakim, Eliakim the father of Azor, 14Azor the father of Zadok, Zadok the father of Akim, Akim the father of Eliud, 15Eliud the father of Eleazar Eleazar the father of Matthan, Matthan the father of Jacob,
They Give The Bloodline Of Daveed , Dawud , David , But They Include Joseph , As It States In Matthew 1 ; 16 ;... 16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ .... This Information Is Right In The Holy Bible , Read The Holy Bible Daily Or Have Their Clergy Pick And Choose Which Person They Want To Discuss Or Elaborate On In Church . But They Never Go Step - By - Step -Chapter - By Chapter - Verse - Verse And LQQK Up The Words , Trace Out The People Or Location Of These People And Discover Who , What And Where They Were , So Storie Like This One Go Unmentioned While The Clergy Focus On Congregatation Size And Wealth , Most People Don't Want To Follow Yashu'a Bar Mariam Isa Waled Maryam = Jesus Son Of Mary Since He's Too Stricy . And They Don't Want To Keep The Law Of Mosheh , Musa , Moses As Yashua Isa Jesus , Told Them ,
John 1 ; 14 ;...For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
John 7 ; 23 ;...Now if a child can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath
John 17 ; 19 ;..For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
Mark 7 ; 10 ;...10For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,'[ and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death
Luke 2; 22 ;...When the time of their purification according to the Law of Moses had been completed, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord
So They Find Alternatives Like Saul , Shaool , Paul , When We LQQk Into Saul , Shaool , Paul's Genealogy You Find Out That He Is Not Of The '' Holy Seed '' The Book Of Ezra Point This Out . If Israelites Mixed Their Seed With Other Than The Seed Of Israel , They Were Rejected As It States In Ezra 2 ; 59 - 62 , And I Quote
The following came up from the towns of Tel Melah, Tel Harsha, Kerub, Addon and Immer, but they could not show that their families were descended from Israel:
The descendants of Delaiah, Tobiah and Nekoda 652 ..And from among the priests:
The descendants of Hobaiah, Hakkoz and Barzillai (a man who had married a daughter of Barzillai the Gileadite and was called by that name). These searched for their family records, but they could not find them and so were excluded from the priesthood as unclean ..
Now In The Above Verse It Explain How The Israelites Tried To Get Registered And Were Turned Away Because Their Genealogy Was Polluted .
Ques ; What Is Meant By Their Genealogy Was Polluted ?
Ans ; It Means That They Mixed Their Holy Seed With The Cursed Seed Of Canaanites Genesis 9 ; 25 ;...he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves
will he be to his brothers." Genesis 24 ; 3 ;... I want you to swear by the LORD , the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, And Genesis 28 ; 1 ;;...So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman ...Not To Take A Canaanite Wife , As A Result Of Their Disobedience , They Were Rejected As It Says In Ezra 9; 1 - 2 ;....1 After these things had been done, the leaders came to me and said, "The people of Israel, including the priests and the Levites, have not kept themselves separate from the neighboring peoples with their detestable practices, like those of the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians and Amorites. 2 They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness."
So According To The Scriptures , Not Me It Is An Abomination To Mix Your Seed With The Canaanites Who Were Sodomites And Gomorrites ...
Genesis 10 ; 15 - 19 ;...Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites, 16 Jebusites, Amorites, Girga****es, 17 Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, 18 Arvadites, Zemarites and Hamathites. Later the Canaanite clans scattered 19 and the borders of Canaan reached from Sidon toward Gerar as far as Gaza, and then toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha ;....
And Take Strange Wives And Hubands Ezra 10 ; 10 - 12 ;...Then Ezra the priest stood up and said to them, "You have been unfaithful; you have married foreign women, adding to Israel's guilt. 11 Now make confession to the LORD , the God of your fathers, and do his will. Separate yourselves from the peoples around you and from your foreign wives." 12 The whole assembly responded with a loud voice: "You are right! We must do as you say. .... And Their Strange Gods Joshua 24 ; 20 ;..
And I Quote ;...If you forsake the LORD and serve foreign gods, he will turn and bring disaster on you and make an end of you, after he has been good to you."
The Gentiles Were Not Of The Pure Or Holy Seed , And In Galatians 3 ; 13 - 14 ...
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. ...Saul , Shaool , Paul , Actually Tries To Tie The Gentiles , Which Includes Himself , Into Avraham , Ibrahim , Abraham's Seed ! Yashua , Isa , Jesus Christ Made It Clear That He Was Not Interested In All Of The Other Tribes Of People During That Time m But Only The Lost Sheep Of Israel . All Throughout The Holy Bible , Elohyeem '' God '' Made Covenant With Men Such As Avraham , Ibrahim , Abraham . And Eliezer ...
Genesis 15 ; 2 ;...But Abram said, "O Sovereign LORD , what can you give me since I remain childless and the one who will inherit my estate is Eliezer of Damascus?"
Swear By The Yahayyu '' Lord '' Not To Mix His Blood Or The Blood Of His Seed With That Of Canaan ( Caaucasians ) Because Those People Are Cursed In .....
Genesis 24 ; 3 ;.... I want you to swear by the LORD , the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living
Eliezer Was Told To Go Back To His County Which Was Chaldea Which Had Black - Skinned Inhabitants Syrian Or Ashuric Genesis 10 ; 21 - 22 ;....Sons were also born to Shem, whose older brother was [Japheth; Shem was the ancestor of all the sons of Eber. The sons of Shem: Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud and Aram
And Take A Wife For His Son Yitkhaq , Ishaaq , Isaac Genesis 24 ; 4 ;...from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, 4 but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac."
This Shows You That Avraham , Ibraham , Abraham Was Firm In His Covenant With Elohyeem '' God '' And Had No Intentions Of Canaanites Marrying Into His Family Genesis 24 ; 3 - 4 ;....I want you to swear by the LORD , the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, 4 but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac."
The Covenant Was Renforced By Yitskhaq , Ishaaq , Son Of Avraham , Ibrahim , Abraham , To His Own Son Yacov , Ya'qub , Jacob In Genesis 28; 1 ;....So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman
After Yitskhaq , Ishaaq, Isaac's Wife Ribqa Rifqa , Rebekah Made Him Think That Their Son Yacov , Ya'qub ,Jacob Was Going To Take A Wife Of Of The Daughters Of Heth Genesis 27 ; 46 ;...Then Rebekah said to Isaac, "I'm disgusted with living because of these Hittite women. If Jacob takes a wife from among the women of this land, from Hittite women like these, my life will not be worth living."
The Second Son Of Canaan Genesis 10 ; 15 ;....Canaan was the father of
Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites
Who Was Cursed Genesis 9 ; 25 ;.... he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers."
Why He Was Cursed Leviticus 18 ; 7 ;.....'Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.
Genesis 9 ; 21 - 22 ;.... When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told his two brothers outside
With Leprosy Where His Skin Turned White Leviticus 13 ; 4 ;....If the spot on his skin is white but does not appear to be more than skin deep and the hair in it has not turned white, the priest is to put the infected person in isolation for seven days.
Leviticus 13 ; 10 ;.....The priest is to examine him, and if there is a white swelling in the skin that has turned the hair white and if there is raw flesh in the swelling,
And Hair Became Thin Leviticus 13 ; 30 - - 36 ;....the priest is to examine the sore, and if it appears to be more than skin deep and the hair in it is yellow and thin, the priest shall pronounce that person unclean; it is an itch, an infectious disease of the head or chin. 31 But if, when the priest examines this kind of sore, it does not seem to be more than skin deep and there is no black hair in it, then the priest is to put the infected person in isolation for seven days. 32 On the seventh day the priest is to examine the sore, and if the itch has not spread and there is no yellow hair in it and it does not appear to be more than skin deep, 33 he must be shaved except for the diseased area, and the priest is to keep him in isolation another seven days. 34 On the seventh day the priest is to examine the itch, and if it has not spread in the skin and appears to be no more than skin deep, the priest shall pronounce him clean. He must wash his clothes, and he will be clean. 35 But if the itch does spread in the skin after he is pronounced clean, 36 the priest is to examine him, and if the itch has spread in the skin, the priest does not need to look for yellow hair; the person is unclean
Thin Hair Is Straight Hair And Yellow Hair Is Blond Hair . Leviticus Speaks Also Of Freclles In Leviticus 13 ; 39 ;.... the priest is to examine them, and if the spots are dull white, it is a harmless rash that has broken out on the skin; that person is clean.
And That's '' Old Leprosy '' Not ' New Leprosy '' Leviticus 13 ; 11 ;.....it is a chronic skin disease and the priest shall pronounce him unclean. He is not to put him in isolation, because he is already unclean.
Now Was This Racism ? < No > The Prophets Were Abiding By The Laws That Elohyeem ( God ) Gave Them . Elohyeem ( God ) Did Not Intend For The Cursed Canaanites ( Caucasians Whites ) To Mix Their Seed In With HIS Chosen Ones
( Melinites , Nubians / Blacks ) This Is Not Racism , Its The Holy Bible
Genesis 27 ; 46;....Then Rebekah said to Isaac, "I'm disgusted with living because of these Hittite women. If Jacob takes a wife from among the women of this land, from Hittite women like these, my life will not be worth living."
Genesis 28 ; 1 ;.... So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman
So According To The Holy Bible , The House Of Israel Were Not By Any Means To Mix With Canaanites ( Caucasians , White ) Why Do I Keep Calling Canaanites Caucasians ? Well It's Not From Me , It's A Well Know Fact ...
In The Teachers Bible Commentary written by H. Franklin Paschall and Herschel H. Hobbs Copyright 1972 A.D. published by Broadman & Holman Publishers, located in Nashville, Tenn. This book which is registered with the Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 75-189505, on page 21 Second Column it states and I Quote Nubians/Negro/Blacks are NOT Descendants of Canaan, who was white, but are descendents from Ham, the curse was not predicated upon all Ham's descendants, but only upon the canaanites, please note that the 25 contributing Editors of this commentary are all Caucasians, thus they all agree with the contents of this book. (This has nothing to do with Racism I'm only Quoting from Books Authored by Caucasians) The curse of Canaan is on the Canaanite Race. Not the Nubians/Blacks/Negroes Race. The Editors of The Teacher Bible Commentary are as follows.
Donald F. Ackland, Author and formal editor, Nashville, Tenn, Deuteronomy through Malachi
J.P. Allen, Radio and Television Commission (SBC) Forth Worth, Texas, John
James E. Carter, First Baptist Church, Natchitoches Louisana, Isaiah 1-39
Robert L. Cate, First Baptist Church, Aiken, South Carolina Levitcus
William B. Cobble, Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Kansas, MIssiouri, Revelation
Wayne Dehoney, Walnut St. Baptist Church, Louisville, Kentucky, Acts
Russell H. Dilday, Jr. Second - Ponce De Leon Baptist Church, Atlanta, Georgia, Esther through Psalms 41,
W.C.Fields, Executive Committe, Southern Baptist Convention, Nashville, Tenn, Galatians through James
Fred L. Fisher - Gollen Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, Mill Valley, California, Romans through 2nd Corinthians
Clyde T. Francisco, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, Kentucky, Genesis
J. Loe Green, Southern Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminiary - Wake Forest, North Carolina, Jeremiah and Lamentations.
Herschel H. HObbs, First Captist Church, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Editor, New Testament
J. Hardee Kennedy , New Orlean Baptist Theological Seminary , New Orleans , Louisiana , Psalms 42 - 150
Landrum P. Leaveil, First Baptist Church, Wichita Falls, Texas, Mark
Peter McLeod, First Baptist Church, Waco, Texas, Isaiah 40-66
H. Franklin Pashall, First Baptist Church, Nashville, Tenn Editor, Old Testament
Ben F. Philbeck, Carson-Newman Collage, Jefferson City, Tenn, Joshua through 1 Samuel
Billy E. Simmons, East Texas Baptist College, Marshall, Texas, 1 Chronicles through Nehmiah
Jerry Falwell, D.D.D. Litt. L.L.D.D.D. Tenn Temple Theological Seminary; D. Litt California Graduate School of Theology, L.I.D. Central University (Seoul, Korea)
Wayne A. Brindle, B.A. Th. M.Th. D.B.A. Kansas University; Th. M. Th.D. Dallas Theological Seminary
Carl J. Diemer, B.S.M. Div. Th. D.B.S. Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University; M Div. Th. D. Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Edward G . Dobson , B.A.M.A.D.D.Ed.DB.A.M.A.Bob.Jones University ; D.D. California . Graduate School . Of Theology Ed.D. University Of . Viginia ,
Paul R. Fink , B.A. M.E.d.Th.M.Th.D.B.A.Columbia Bible College ; M.E.d.University Of Southern California , Th.M.Th.D.Dallas.Theological. Seminary .
James A. Freerksen, B.A. M.D.iv, Th. M. Th. D.B.A. Pilsbury, Baptist College, M.Div. Th. M. Central Baptist Theological Seminary; Th D Grace Theological Seminary
Edward E. Hindson, B.A.M.A. Th. M. Th. D.D. Min D. Litt, Et. Phil, Fiba. B.A. William Tyndale College; M.A. Trinity Graduate School of Theology D. Min. Westminister Theological Seminary; D. Litt, Et. Phil University of South Africa Fellow of The International Biographical Association (Cambridge England
Daniel R. Mitchell B.A.B.D. Th. M.S.T.M. Th B. A. Washingtion Bible College; B.D. Th. M. Captial Bible Seminary; S.T.M. Th.D. Dallas Theological Seminary
Richard D. Patterson, A.B.M. Div. Th. M.A. Ph. D.A.B. Wheaton College, M. Div. Los Angeles Baptist Serminary Th.M.Talbot.Theological Seminary.M.A.Ph.H.University Of California . At Los Angeles ( UNCLA )
Ronald C . Sauer , B.A.Th , M.Ph.D. B.A.. Mississippi College . Th .M.Dallas Theological Seminary Ph.D.University Of Manchester ( England )
Stephen R. Schrader, B.S.M. Div. Th. M. Th. D. B.S. Evansville University M. Div. Th. M. Th. D. Grace Theological Seminary.
Elmer L. Towns, B.A. Th. M. M. R.R. D. Min. B.B. Northwestern College; M.A. Southern Methodist University; Th. M. Dallas Theological Seminary; M.R.E. Garrett Theological Seminary; D. Min. Fuller Theological Seminary.
Robert W. Yarbrough, B.A.M. A. Ph.D. B. A. Southwest Baptist College; M.A. Wheaton College Graduate School; D. University of Aberdeen (Scotland)
Jerry Falwell .. William Franklin ... “Billy Graham - Ruth Bell Graham...”
The wife of Billy Graham - Anne Graham Lotz - the daughter of Billy Graham
John Hagee, and Robert H. Schuller, They all agree that the Curse of Canaan is on the White Race because they all appear within the Nelson Catalog. Even some of their wives and children are inside the Book. Thus we see that they obviously Condone what is written in the Nelson Version of The King James Bible.
Another bible that share this same point is the Zondervan N.A.S.B. (New American Standard Bible) Study Bible on page 17
Within the Commentary in Reference to Genesis 9:25 it states Noah's Prophecy Cannot be Used to Justify the Enslavement of Black. Since those cursed here were Canaanites. Who Were CAUCASIAN this bible was edited by General Editor. Another bible that share this same point is the Zondervan N.A.S.B. (New American Standard Bible) Study Bible on page 17
Within the Commentary in Reference to Genesis 9:25 it states Noah's Prophecy Cannot be Used to Justify the Enslavement of Black. Since those cursed here were Canaanites. Who Were CAUCASIAN this bible was edited by General Editor.
Ronald Youngblood <> Genesis
Ronald Youngbloom and Walter C. Kaiser Jr. <>Exodus
R. Laired Harris and Ronald Youngblook <>Leviticus
Ronald B. Allen and Kenneth L. Barker <>Number
Earl S. Kalland and Kenneth L. Barker <>Deuteronomy
Arthur Lewis<>Joshua
John J. Davis and Herbert Woldf <>Judge
Marvin E. Wilson and John H. Stek <>Ruth
J. Robert Vannoy <>1.2.Samuel
. Robert Vannoy <>1.2.Kings
Robert Dillard <>1.2. Chronicles
Edwin Yamauchi and Ronaldd Youngblood <>Ezra & Nehemiah
Raymond Dillardd <>1.2. Chronicles
Edwin Yamauchi and Ronald Youngblood <>Ezra & Nehemiah
Raymond Dillard and Edward Yamauchi <>Esther
Elmer B. Smick and Ronald Youngblood <>Job
John H. Stek<>Psalms
Herbert Wolf <>Proverbs
Derek Kiner<>Ecclesiates
John H. Stek <> Song of Solomon
. Robert Vannoy <>1.2.Kings
Robert Dillard <>1.2. Chronicles
Edwin Yamauchi and Ronaldd Youngblood <>Ezra & Nehemiah
Raymond Dillardd <>1.2. Chronicles
Edwin Yamauchi and Ronald Youngblood <>Ezra & Nehemiah
Raymond Dillard and Edward Yamauchi <>Esther
Elmer B. Smick and Ronald Youngblood <>Job
John H. Stek<>Psalms
Herbert Wolf <>Proverbs
Derek Kiner<>Ecclesiates
John H. Stek <> Song of Solomon
Herbert Wolf and JOhn H. Stek<>Isaiah
RonaldYoungblood <> Jereiah
Roanld Youngblood <>Jeremiah & Lamentations
Mark Hilmer<>Ezekiel
Gleason L. Archer, Jr. and Ronald Youngblood <>Daniel
Jack P Lewis Hosea
Jack P. Lewis <> Joel
Allen R. Millard and John H. Stek <>Amos
John M. Zinkand <>Obadiah
Marvin R. Wilson and John H. Stek <>Jonah
Allen A. MacRae Thomas E. McComiskey <>Micah
G. Herbert Livingston and Kenneth L. Barker <>Nahum
Ronald K. Harrison and William C. Williams <>Habakkuk
Ronald K. Harrison <> Zephaniah
Herbert Wolf <>Haggai
Kenneth L. Barker and Larry L. Walker <>Zechariah
Herbert Wolf and JOhn H. Stek <>Malachi
Ralph Earle and Wlater W. Wessel <>Matthew
Walter W. Wessel and William L. Lane <>Mark
Lewis Foster <> Luke & Acts
Leon Morris <>John
Lewis Foster <> Acts
Walter W. Wessel<>Romans
W. Harold Mare <>1Corinthians
Robert Mounce<>Galatians
Walter L. Liefeld <>Ephesians
Richard B. Gaffin Jr. <>Phillippians
Gerald F. Hawthorne and Wilber B. Wallis <>Colossianss
Leon Morris <>1.2. Thessalonians
Wlater W. Wesseel and Geroge W. Knight III <>1.2. Timothy
D. Edmond Herbert <>Titus
John Werner <>Philemon
Philip E. Hughes and Donald W. Burdick <>Hebrews
Donald W. Burdick <>James
Donald W. Burden and John H. Skilton 1.2. Peter and Jude
Donald W. Burdick <>1.2.3. John
Robert Mounce <>Revelation
So you See what I'm Saying is Definitely not Racism because they are saying this themselves. Right from the horses mouth. The white man has The Curse of Canaan Not Nubians/Blacks. Who are Indeed the trut and only pure seed of the Tribe of Judah.William Franklin "Billy" Graham, and American Evangelist who conducted revivals all over the World, Ruth Bell Graham The Wife of Billy Graham ....
Anne Graham Lotz the Daughter of Billy Graham
John Hagee The Founder and Pastor of the 17,000 member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Taxas .Jerry Falwell A Baptist Telvision Evangelist and Head of the Moral Majority
This List Is From The Caucasians Who Say In Thei Own Books Or Bible The Canaanites Are White People Not The Nubians / Blacks / Negroids , People , This Is What Some Of Their Most Intelligent Scholars Say . So The Curse Of Ham That Was Really Canaan's Curse That So Many People Were Taught For Years Was On Nubians / Black / Negroids People ...Was In Fact A White People Curse , Now There Were Dark - Skinned Canaanites By Canaan And Halsa Their 11th Son Hammath , His Seed Was Mixed And Called The Phoenician . This Knowledge Was Passed Down Through GenerationsFrom Father To Son AndWas An Important Commandment Given By Elohyeems ( God ) Genealogy Was Extremely Sacred ( Genesis 2 ; 4 ) And I Quote ;....This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. ;... Since It Linked His Seed To Heaven . If Israelite Mixed Their Seed With SomeOne OutSide Of The Seed Of Israel They Were Rejected Ezra 2 ; 59 ; 62 ;....The following were those who came up from Tel-me'lah, Tel-har'sha, Cherub, Addan, and Immer, though they could not prove their fathers' houses or their descent, whether they belonged to Israel: 60 the sons of Delai'ah, the sons of Tobi'ah, and the sons of Neko'da, six hundred and fifty-two. 61 Also, of the sons of the priests: the sons of Habai'ah, the sons of Hakkoz, and the sons of Barzil'lai (who had taken a wife from the daughters of Barzil'lai the Gileadite, and was called by their name). 62 These sought their registration among those enrolled in the genealogies, but they were not found there, and so they were excluded from the priesthood as unclean;
Ezra 9 ; 1 - 2 ;.... After these things had been done, the officials approached me and said, "The people of Israel and the priests and the Levites have not separated
themselves from the peoples of the lands with their abominations, from the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Per'izzites, the Jeb'usites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. 2 For they have taken some of their daughters to be wives for themselves and for their sons; so that the holy race has mixed itself with the peoples of the lands. And in this faithlessness the hand of the officials and chief men has been foremost.
Mixing Your Seed With The Canaanites ( Caucasians ) Made You Unacceptable As Heirs Hebrew 1 ; 2 ;.....but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
To God's Kingdom Through The Blood . As A Result Certain Familes Of Edomites And Romans In Particularly Hated Haru Pa Messeh <> Yashua Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih <> Jesus The Messiah '' Christ For His Statements ;
Mattew 24 ; 9 ;....Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.
John 1 ; 11 ;.... He came to his own home, and his own people received him not
Matthew 10 ; 5 ( In Part ) ;.... These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, 6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel
Matthew 15 ; 24 ;... He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
t Is A Fact That Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus The Messiah '' Christ '' Ignored A Caucasian Or Canaanite Woman Whose Daughter Was Grievously Possessed By A Demon Matthew 15 ; 21 - 28 ;...
Starting With Verse 21 ;....And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon.
Note ; Sidon Was The FirstBorn Son Of Canaan Genesis 10 ; 15;....Canaan became the father of Sidon his first-born, and Heth,
Making Him And His Town A Land Of Canaaites . Canaan Was Cursed In ...
Genesis 9; 25 ;....he said, "Cursed be Canaan; a slave of slaves shall he be to his brothers."
And That Curse Was Leprosy Making The Skin White As Snow Leviticus 13 ; 3 - 4
;.....and the priest shall examine the diseased spot on the skin of his body; and if the hair in the diseased spot has turned white and the disease appears to be deeper than the skin of his body, it is a leprous disease; when the priest has examined him he shall pronounce him unclean. 4 But if the spot is white in the skin of his body, and appears no deeper than the skin, and the hair in it has not turned white, the priest shall shut up the diseased person for seven days;
Or Albinoism ... Then In Verse 22 ;....And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and cried, "Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon."
Note ; This Canaanite Woman Came To Jesus Telling Him That Her Daughter
Is Possessed With A Devil ... And In Verse 23;....But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying after us."
Note ; Yashua Isa , Haru , Jesus Did Not Answer Her , He Ignored Her And Even The Disciples Were Sending Her Away Because She Was Crying After Them LQQking For The Disciple To Bless Her Daughter And Heal Her . So She Believed AnyOne Of These Men Could Have Helped Her ;....
And In Verse 24 ;....He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ;... Note Yashua Isa , Jesus ' Answer To This Canaanite Woman Was That He Was Sent To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel '' Judah '' Nubian / Blacks
In Other Words , I Did Not Come For You And Your Tribe '' Canaanites '' Gentiles
Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Specifically Sought After The Lost Sheep Of The House Israel
Thus , Yashua , Isa , Jesus , REJECTED Her ! The Book Of Ezra 9; 1 - 2 Tells You That It Was An Abomination For The Children Of Israel Who Were Nubian Brown Skinned And Black - Skinned Nappy - Hair ;.... To Even Mix Their Seed With Canaanite Tribes Who Was White -- Skinned With Straight Fur , Again In
Ezra 9; 1 - 2 ;....After these things had been done, the officials approached me and said, "The people of Israel and the priests and the Levites have not separated themselves from the peoples of the lands with their abominations, from the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Per'izzites, the Jeb'usites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. 2 For they have taken some of their daughters to be wives for themselves and for their sons; so that the holy race has mixed itself with the peoples of the lands. And in this faithlessness the hand of the officials and chief men has been foremost."
In Matthew 15 ;25 ;...But she came and knelt before him, saying, "Lord, help me."
Note . The Canaanite Woman Commenced To Beg Jesus For His Help .
Now In Matthew 15 ; 26 ;... And he answered, "It is not fair to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.
Yashu'a Isa , Jesus , Christ Called Her A Dog ! Notoce How The Woman Answer Yashua In Matthew 15 ; 27;...She said, "Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table." ;... Stop And Think , The Woman Respnds '' Truth , Lord '' Meaning She Knows That She Is A Canaanite Or Classified By The Judahites Called Jews Of Yashua , Isa , Jesus '' Time As Goyeem Or Akumeem Heathens , Gentiles , Dogs Or Caines , Meaning '' An Animal Of The Family Canidae , Especially A Dog , According To The American Heritage Dictionary , And Knowing That , She Is Still Willing To Take WhatEver Blessing She Can Get From Him . And Finally In Verse 28 ;..Then Jesus answered her, "O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire." And her daughter was healed instantly.
Note JesusTold Her That Her Faith Is What Healed Her Daughter ;... Note That Right After Yashua ' Isa , Jesus Finishes With This Woman , He Goes Into Galilee And Begins To Heal The Multitude Amongst His Own People In Matthew 15 ; 29 - 31 ;,,,And Jesus went on from there and passed along the Sea of Galilee. And he went up on the mountain, and sat down therAnd Jesus went on from there and passed along the Sea of Galilee. And he went up on the mountain, and sat down there. 30 And great crowds came to him, bringing with them the lame, the maimed, the blind, the dumb, and many others, and they put them at his feet, and he healed them,

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