with all these bad *** kids ywal? :dance3: :bully:

The first thing that comes to mind is no home training. Seriously. I know this girl, let's her son run all over her. Instead of sitting him down and explaining things to him, or punishing him, or anything, she stands in the middle of their house and screams at him. (He's 5.) He laughs and says, "Shut up, Mommy." And runs away. Let that be my son in 4 years. Hmph.

But perhaps we no longer know what works to control a child. Most of us, when we were growing up, had regular meetings with switches, belts, and backhands. Nowadays, that's child abuse. Time outs don't work. Do they?

Instead of wondering why children are so bad, Why don't we find out why it's hard for them to be good?

Cedric Denson

They are all just evil.

How can a child...which we ALL were at some point...become anything but what they see and often learn to emulate and then be blamed for it? Is there such a thing as a "bad" child or are there people who are raising or influencing children to act badly? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater when it's the bathwater that's dirty.

Think about it.

Queenie :spinstar:

Children are still evil.

I'm not sure whose children you are referring to Brother Manasiac, but the one's I've had the privilege of knowing are not evil. It's unfortunate that you think so in a general way and take no regard for whose feelings may be hurt in the process.

It's good that this is a community that values the many perspectives of its members and allows for open, yet respectful, communication, but I certainly would not like it if our youth or anyone who genuinely loves children would come here and take your words to heart. A little sensitivity would serve you well in this area.

If we're going to throw daggers, let's throw them at well deserved targets and not make blanket remarks like this. I guess I'm wearing my heart on my sleeve at this moment and take personal offense to your comment because I've had a child and now have a grandchild and neither of them are evil.

I sure hope that no one felt that way about you Brother Manasiac and if they did, I'm sorry.

Peace.....

Queenie :spinstar:

I still think they evil. all they do is leech, annoy and provide you no income until your on your death bed.

I still think they evil. all they do is leech, annoy and provide you no income until your on your death bed.

If this is your best "argument" to describe why you think children are "evil," then this description must also apply to everyone even as adults, including yourself. The only difference being that adults have had time to do it longer.

Queenie :cool:

I never said I was a good child, I know I caused my mother alot of stress and anguish and increased debt that could have been easliy avoided with abortion.

Manasiac my children are not evil but a blessing to me
many are bad from lack of understanding or trust , misguided
from what they learn growing up and what they see and hear
many don't have home respect and take the street value as
the answer our children feed off trash talk and let down by
folks like Manasiac with negative vibes .
What are we going to do to give them hope , teach and turn
the badness into goodness ......
i trust in the spanking rule when it's needed and talk when it's needed
no one or law can tell me what to do or how to raise my children they
act a fool in a store i bust that butt in a store Daddy don't play that !
time outs-- is a white race tacted to control children which have not
been proven to work as well as the good old spirit of a belt
so many children are lost because we have children having babies so young
and not ready for parenthood and we have those mother's who don't
show the value of a parent to the child we have dead beat dads who not
in the life of many children the preasure weights in on a child deeper then
we know but inside a home we show good morals and values to a good life
and the future rewards can set off a good vibe for our children and allow
then to know they worthy , we all been children and we all have pose'd a
problem to our parents doing something bad but over all many have become
DOCTORS < LAWYERS < JUDGES < BUSINESS OWNERS < TEACHERS < and so
on we learn respect and to respect our elders by all means but today we
don't have that our kids will base you out in a heartbeat fast to pick up
and use a weapon but some of the worse kids in the hood respects adults
to a degree of how you act and treat them , Punishment is not always the
answer to resolve a child badness or problem .

Brother, brother, brother... I don't understand what you mean Manasiac. Kids are not evil. Kids are children of God. Abortion? Well, move forward. Kids do bad things and good things. I coach 6th grade boys basketball and mentor, and father. And I'm an Uncle. On top of being with my best friend, my spouse, being around the kids brings me the fullest of life. Sure kids argue and talk back to their parents. Man, adults do that too. Are adults evil? Kids fight, while the President of the USA is sending troops over to fight a war that had nothing to do with Sept 11. Kids dress crazy; look at Dennis Rodman. Kids bite other kids... look at Mike Tyson. Kids cuss (not around me cuz I'll beat they...) but look at Eddie Murphy or Chris Rock. Sure we've caused our parents harm by words or some even by muscle, but which fight is your toughest? Against a stubborn adult or some little child who has every opportunity to learn how to react by you? By the way, my kids leech. My kids are a half of me. I give them money and more if I had to. I am literally in their shoes. Sure kids can aggravate you to driving your car like a speed demon, it doesn't mean their evil. YOu need to look at yourself and see how you're RESPONDING. Maybe, you're evil.
Come on, I'm on a www.ShakalotHigh.com now!

I never said I was good. And I still believe Kids are evil.

Manasiac, you're right. You never said you were good. Maybe that's why you get such a negative reaction from kids. You just solved your own problem, cuz.
Try smiling and taking some parenting classes. Get some church why you're at it... then you can learn to respect the power of love. Most importantly, love yourself. Ya' can't love nobody else til you love yourself. So stop blaming kids for your low self esteem. If I was kid and saw you slumping-thinking nothing good about yourself, looking grumpy, and expecting me do something foul because I'm a kid, I'd probably cap all over you, ride my bike all over your lawn, let my dog crap all in it, draw over the sidewalk in front of your house, and litter all over in front of your yard. Kids will do that if you can't get a grip of doing some good in the neighborhood. Learn to be good. It wipes off.

Actually I work well with Kids, I currently coach a group of Kids in HIgh School Speech and Debate. I never said that kids did not get along with me, I just said that I believe that kids are evil.

Can't say your opinion's wrong. You just keep on believing in kids being evil. Adults are what's creating war, HIV, abuse, parental neglect, and so on. That makes adults evil right? So, everybody is evil? Where do you draw the line?

Never said adults where good either. I just said Kids were evil.

children not evil it's what you make of them to turn them evil
how we treat them and talk to them it's adults that become evil
and instill this in a child mind that they are evil but these are our
future and a gift of GODS creation happy my little ones not lable
as such and they know who and what they are make it more beautiful
these children are not corrupt until older folks corrupt there minds this facts
it's not them but adults who set there path to destruction and evil doing so
seek the real truth about our children which are a blessing to us as parents .

now that u deeply feel they are evil why deal with them or try to teach
evil kids and what can u do to change so much of this evil in children ????

I know the answer already !

peace unto the children of GOD small angels

God also says in Isaiah 45:7 that he creates Evil.

so true he also divide good and evil
our children is of good before they
be tought evil ....thankz for the word

Kids have a tendency to mimic whatever they see and hear around them. Younger children are also curious about the world around them, and they want to smell, taste, touch everything. I'm learning that if I do not want my son to pick up my bad habits, I have to replace them with good habits. Children watch us for cues on how to act, what to say. Perhaps we, as parents and responsible adults, should be more careful of what we do and say when they little ones are watching.

so ture toylin i agree we are the samples set forth and the teacher
to guide our children in the right respectable path before them .....

Kids have a tendency to mimic whatever they see and hear around them. Younger children are also curious about the world around them, and they want to smell, taste, touch everything. I'm learning that if I do not want my son to pick up my bad habits, I have to replace them with good habits. Children watch us for cues on how to act, what to say. Perhaps we, as parents and responsible adults, should be more careful of what we do and say when they little ones are watching.

Sister toylin I agree with you completely, especially the part that is in bold text, but, if I may, I'd like to expand on it and modify it somewhat.

If responsible thinking adults genuinely want to provide their children with the best possible tools in which to help them succeed in life, then it's critical (not perhaps) that they be careful of what they do and say PERIOD, but particularly when children are present.

Lying hypocrits will preach one thing and do something different or completely opposite of what they preach. The lesson we (as responsible behaving adults) want to TEACH our children is not how to lie or be hypocritical. We want to teach children how to be honest and take responsibility for their actions. Doesn't mean we're going to raise perfect people who won't make mistakes, but maybe these children will become individuals who are less likely to do things that put themselves and others at risk. That's why your statement is profoundly important in my opinion Sister Toylin. That's why I took issue with Brother Manasiac's opinion that children are evil. In the absence of any identified chemical imbalances, children learn from what they are taught and for an adult to blame only the child for their behavior, well, is thinking in a very narrow space, and a dark one at that.

Peace,
Queenie :spinstar:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

well said keita and 100% agree it take all to defeat the evil that looms
and bestored upon our children today we need everyone to step up and help
to beat the worst of odds and enter the goodness of life in a child with
respect and hope .......thankz for sharing on this topic i agree and feel you here.

I have a question because I'm seeking understanding. Besides Brother Manasiac, does anyone else here believe that children are evil? I'm really having issues with that because I think it's a sign of a decayed spirit or malfunctioning spirit if people believe that. If we think something is wrong with our children to the point that they are possessed with "demons" and such, then what are we really saying about the future potential of our children and any role that we, as adults, parents, guardians, play in their development? When children do "bad" things, does it make them evil? That is a blanket statement that is really causing me some concern and I'm wondering if people who think like this are throwing our children away because of it. Brother Manasiac, what if everyone was to think that any Black man convicted of a crime is evil and doesn't deserve a second chance after he's paid his "debt" to society? Gosh, my sense is this opinion may not bother you but I'd really like to know your answer.

Queenie :spinstar:

Besides Brother Manasiac, does anyone else here believe that children are evil?

Of course not, children are products of thier upbringing. I've always believed this, but now that I work with teenagers....I'm absolutely convinced!

Well Sister NNqueen, if someone believes that a crminal is evil that is their buisness, instead of getting upset with these people, I just make it my business to show with action a difference of opinion. If their opinion does not change oh well, they do not pay my bills, I will live

As far as the kiddies, they are still evil. And by the way, I like kids, kids get along with me quite well, and I am even making a movie about kids in 4 months, but I still think the kiddies are evil.

brutha your too much but what i love is how you stand by your thinking
which is very different like i said before maybe we all need a long look in
the visional mirror before us too see how children are being placed as evil
but we all know they not at all and truely a blessing ,
take a look inside the mirror bruh ! .

but now i ask what is evil and what makes evil ???????