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Destee
10-06-2004, 12:50 PM
Hello Family,

As i consider the many warnings given in this community, regarding personal attacks and disrespect to other Members, they go overwhelming to more Brothers than Sisters. I won't name names, but you all know who you are. As a matter of fact, it's quite rare that we have to ask a Sister not to be disrespectful or to cease from personally attacking others.

I'm trying to understand why this is.

Not only must we warn male Members more often, regarding breaking the rules here ... we (i) must repeat ourselves often, saying virtually the same thing over and over again.

Why do you guys make us (me) go through this?

Do you have no respect for us (me) and the rules here?

Does it have anything to do with the fact that i am a woman and perhaps you don't feel the need to respect me and the rules here. Maybe you believe women are beneath you, and therefore justified in acting the way you do.

Would you be carrying on this way if a Brother ran this site?

Do you take my kindness for weakness?

I do not understand why grown men come into this community, are aware of the rules, reminded of them often ... yet intentionally and consistently break them.

Brothers (and Sisters) please help me understand this if you can.

Thanks.

:heart:

Destee

Isaiah
10-06-2004, 01:15 PM
Destee, I have issued and apology, and I am sorry that I offended you... It will not happen again... Moving on...

Peace!
Isaiah

Destee
10-06-2004, 01:25 PM
Thank you Brother Isaiah ... but you are not the only one and i didn't post this thread to call anyone out, but to try and understand the phenomena of what we're experiencing.

I'm not quite ready to move on, as i hope i get some responses to my questions ... but i understand if you wanna ... that's kewl ... and thanks again for your word, it is much appreciated.

:heart:

Destee

CarrieMonet
10-06-2004, 01:58 PM
I don't have any answer for your question Destee...and of course I know you were primarily asking for a response from the men.

All I want to say is that sometimes what we TRY to say does not ALWAYS come out right in written communication. Each person may read the same post and come away with a different take on it. I know I've been guilty of taking things personally at times...which is why I try to read all posts in a thread before responding to the initial subject matter.

Groups like these will always have highly intelligent, highly opinionated people involved and that requires each member to "step up" to the plate and realize they can not always be RIGHT. Each of us comes from different life experiences that helps us form our own opinions, but we should be mindful that you can't teach, help or inspire someone else by berating or being disrespectful to them.

Understanding where someone else is coming from goes a long way in "BUILDING WITH OUR PEOPLE".

jamesfrmphilly
10-06-2004, 02:25 PM
and realize they can not always be RIGHT...............

say, what???????????????

Isaiah
10-06-2004, 03:15 PM
Destee, got a question for you...

Do you support Black Supremacy or Black Supremacists??? You see, i think that's ugly, and that's why I responded to this guy like that... It is why I responded to another board member like that, because I neither like, nor subscribe, nor believe in such nonsense...

How, Destee, can African people say they've been psychologically freed and enlightened by their absorbtion in, and learning of, their history, and be following the white man's history as if it is a blueprint for themselves and their community???? We are so white, and think that we are so BLACK, that we don't truly know how White we are acting... No, I do not think African people are superior... i think God made all of us, and I don't need Black Supremacy to make me feel good about myself... Just being Black, Being African, makes me feel so wonderful, what more could I want... I don't need nor want to feel superior to anyone... That is the priority of the inadequate, and for them, there is no remedy but to concoct something - anything - to make them feel good about themselves...

Peace!
isaiah

panafrica
10-06-2004, 04:00 PM
I'm not Destee...but I believe she would agree with me that the wisest course of action would have been to ask Prophet Chris what he meant by Black Supremacy before you went into full attack mode. I also think Destee doesn't personally subscribe to many discussions which take place on this forum...but she respects people's opinions as long as they are not being disrespectful to other members (which Prophet Chris was not). It is disrespecting others which is the issue here, and a violation of the forum rules!

Keita Kenyatta
10-06-2004, 04:03 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

jamesfrmphilly
10-06-2004, 04:06 PM
:sick: your font gives me a headache.

Keita Kenyatta
10-06-2004, 04:09 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Destee
10-06-2004, 04:31 PM
Destee, got a question for you...

Do you support Black Supremacy or Black Supremacists???

Thank you Brother Pan for responding to Brother Isaiah's question, because you said exactly what i would have said, only you were much more succinct ... something i've always had trouble being.

Brother Isaiah ... since you did ask me, i'll give you my (verbose) response to your question.

It would probably be good to know what exactly you mean by "support," but since i don't have that, i'll proceed based on what i think you might mean.

I do "support" a wide variety of thought processes, religions, lifestyles, behaviors, etc., as this community has been provided for many years, to be a place where Sisters and Brothers are free to share their life experiences, opinions, wisdom, regarding anything they'd like, so long as it's done respectfully.

I do not personally take part in all of the lifestyles, religions, activities, sports, or endeavors shared here.

It is my hope that this community can be that place where every single Sister and Brother can feel welcome to share whatever they think may enlighten, uplift, encourage, and move us toward unity and respect for each other, regardless of our differences.

It is a challenge to say the least. I've heard it said that we, Black Folk, can't come together peacefully, for when there are many of us in the same area there will surely be some swearing, fighting, stabbing, and shooting. This community proves that that is a lie, for we are all here together, living peacefully. It is very important to me that we maintain this very high level of peace and respect.

In order to do this, have such a community as ours, i've found that everyone won't comply. There will be those that insist on the swearing, fighting, stabbing, etc., so my hope for every single Sister and Brother won't be achieved ... as i've kicked a few out already ... but it is my goal to have as many of us as possible.

Brother Isaiah ... if i must agree or actually be living the different options presented in this community, for them to be allowed here ... i'd probably be here all by myself. This is not about any one of us, including me. It's about all of us, coming together peacefully, in spite of our differences. The bigger we grow, the greater the challenge becomes. I'm confident that we're up to the task and will continue to maintain what we've been so abundantly blessed with, and it will be all the more easier if everyone is working toward that same goal.

*sigh* ... am i long winded or what? :)

Much Much Love Brother Isaiah.

:heart:

Destee

Isaiah
10-06-2004, 04:36 PM
Do you know of any Black supremist ? Where are they located ? What organization do they have ? What flyers or pamphlets are they handing out ? Is there a Black Supremist web site some where I don't know about ?

I'm confused, cause as I last remember...black supremacy and white supremacy can't exist in the same vacuum, and being that we are dominated by so called "white supremacy" in all areas of people activity, where are you coming off with this black supremacy nonsense ?!?

Is it possible that what you're interpreting as black supremacy is simply a reaction to white supremacy ? I

Brother Keita, a poster on another thread, whose name I will not mention, gave greetings and salutations to the Black Supremacists on this website, so it aint about quizzing me on Black Supremacy... I don't believe in it, so I couldn't possibly answer your questions, my beautiful brother(smile!)

Pan, if you don't think that being a Black Supremacist is disrespectful to others, then you must not think being a White Supremacist is disrespectful to others... I don't understand what respect for one group is, and not others who live and breathe the same air, on the same planet... Brotherman, i am not into that phony kinda rhetoric... And Yes, it offends me deeply...

Peace!
isaiah

$$RICH$$
10-06-2004, 06:40 PM
just me saying from what i've read cross the boards .....

Men disrespect out of what they feel is man power and being right to
put up a fight to be heard there way so it brings on a more personal
attack at another because they feel or don't see it the same way which
make it more heated then it really is , many men act without fully going
deep into what the next is trying to say or express from words written
many read and take it differently pose to women who has seem to always
been more supportive and together more understandable and lend to not
get into a power struggle upon each other but read between lines to see
the next point of view i don't think men disrespect on grounds of who in
control or run things but for speaking out of what they feel is right and what
they trust in which bring on fussing and disrespect and lord knows if a female
is involve she will be hit not out of total disrespect but the hammer of what a
brother feel is right and what a woman can't tell them on a subject or topic men
known for such acts as a man to speak freely on what they feel is right no matter
who it is or where they at and can get out of control pose to woman who can
ware off and step away ladies are more in unity and bonds better then men do,men
off subjects they don't agree with but lash out coz it may
seem crazy or out right wrong to them , but i learn to know if i don't agree and
to stay away from drama is to leave it well along without my comment or say
they can't back down and off it so it come off into a personal attack against
anothers way of thinking of what they feel so we see more men in war then
unite in unity but do know the rules are place'd to keep peace and harmony
and respectfully which are broken ......Sometime the mind can't be change so
what need to be done to keep respect and peace should be done so the rest
will see the rules are a standard in this community and must be respected

Da peace maker

Sekhemu
10-06-2004, 08:50 PM
Hello Family,

As i consider the many warnings given in this community, regarding personal attacks and disrespect to other Members, they go overwhelming to more Brothers than Sisters. I won't name names, but you all know who you are. As a matter of fact, it's quite rare that we have to ask a Sister not to be disrespectful or to cease from personally attacking others.

I'm trying to understand why this is.

Not only must we warn male Members more often, regarding breaking the rules here ... we (i) must repeat ourselves often, saying virtually the same thing over and over again.

Why do you guys make us (me) go through this?

Do you have no respect for us (me) and the rules here?

Does it have anything to do with the fact that i am a woman and perhaps you don't feel the need to respect me and the rules here. Maybe you believe women are beneath you, and therefore justified in acting the way you do.

Would you be carrying on this way if a Brother ran this site?

Do you take my kindness for weakness?

I do not understand why grown men come into this community, are aware of the rules, reminded of them often ... yet intentionally and consistently break them.

Brothers (and Sisters) please help me understand this if you can.

Thanks.

:heart:

Destee


Point is well taken, Family if I have been disrespectful to any of you, my sincerest apologies.

Peace and love

$$RICH$$
11-12-2004, 01:19 AM
many do it because they feel they can as a man
it's that pride factor or some ego this why you see
more men disrespecting then women...................

seminoleBACP
11-12-2004, 09:44 AM
:fyi: ..................................

Dana
12-22-2004, 08:15 AM
As i consider the many warnings given in this community, regarding personal attacks and disrespect to other Members, they go overwhelming to more Brothers than Sisters. I won't name names, but you all know who you are. As a matter of fact, it's quite rare that we have to ask a Sister not to be disrespectful or to cease from personally attacking others.

I'm trying to understand why this is.

Not only must we warn male Members more often, regarding breaking the rules here ... we (i) must repeat ourselves often, saying virtually the same thing over and over again.

Why do you guys make us (me) go through this?

Do you have no respect for us (me) and the rules here?
I know this is a few months old but I have an opinion anyway.

The answer to your question is quite simply, because you are a woman....and a Black woman at that.I have a friend who runs a forum as well and just a day or 2 ago we had this very discussion.Though you and she both have Mods and so forth, many realize that you are the lone woman running this forum and they try to run all over you.Sad to say also, that many angry self hating Black men also come to Black forums to vent their anger at Black women and usually go overboard is doing so.I hope you stay strong and not allow the crazies to destroy your board.Good decent Black forums are in short supply.

Btw, my poor friend has decided to try and find a male to help run her forum as she figures it will be easier that way. :(

jamesfrmphilly
12-22-2004, 08:22 AM
.Sad to say also, that many angry self hating Black men also come to Black forums to vent their anger at Black women................
so, who is venting at whom? :puke:

panafrica
12-22-2004, 08:38 AM
There are also male moderators (yours truly included) who are among sister Destee's biggest supporters!

HODEE
12-22-2004, 09:07 AM
The male lion has always roared and growled more than the female. :donttell: Men are always flexing and spilling testosterone.

Isaiah
12-22-2004, 10:06 AM
We just love to give sistas somethin' to talk about(Hahahahahaha!) Keep Mama Destee busy, ya know!(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah

ASHANTA
02-04-2005, 12:39 PM
In order for a people; to understand the observation of truth, one must be able to speak, many take personel offense, when truth comes; through the back door, to speak is to recognize, their shall be no unity, until man understands; that sometime truth is a bitter taste, I ask my self? am I a racist, answering my self.

I am a warrior of truth, we as a people must understand, what you see, is what you get, every man wear glasses is not blind. When we speak as a people, it dose not mean, the objective that we speak about; has know baring to all, are some. Many people live through a tunnel vise mind. We like to put on arches; as we the perfect women, or the perfect man, how do we correct our mistakes, if they are hidden, breaking the black code is very hard. We have become collectives, more than people of individual thoughts, if my sister lives by the laws of the devil, it dose not apply to all, if my brother, kill and steal from another, it dose not mean; all black men or thieves and thugs, breaking the black code, one must say, what everyone wants them to say, when we as a people know ; it is not in the order it is shown.

How can we teach our young, if we hide behind the black code, who shall they trust, if we lye, truth is the source of free self, we must respect one another, but if we speak the truth, which we live, how can we be the offender, to point out the toxins that seperate our people. :hearts2:

Ralfa'il
03-26-2005, 12:38 PM
Destee

I'm new here and don't know all the personalities...

But I think that men are more aggressive and rebelious by nature.

If we weren't the world would be pretty boring, don't you think? :coffee:



Also, many black men in America have a lot of penned up frustrations just looking for place to let it loose in.
They don't want to go on a war path out on the street and damage the environment so they choose to let the ghosts out their skull on the internet.

From what I've seen, there are only a handful of black sites available now in which to do this.

1poetsought
03-26-2005, 05:28 PM
Real men may not eat quiche but do respect the sovereignty of a Queen.

atman
04-01-2005, 10:09 AM
Real men may not eat quiche but do respect the sovereignty of a Queen.

Hey I like quiche! Does that mean I may not be a real man??? Darn it!

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