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CarrieMonet
09-22-2004, 02:58 PM
Men, do you feel it is a weakness to shed tears in front of your kids or your woman?

Do you feel it makes you any less of a man to cry if your feelings are hurt?

jamesfrmphilly
09-22-2004, 03:01 PM
i cry if i get hurt.
i am a huMAN, yo.

$$RICH$$
09-22-2004, 03:11 PM
no it don't make you less then a man because you cry
it show that you as a man has feelings , we are human !
we hurt like anyone , we bleed like anyone so why not cry
like anyone , never shame to show my deep inner emotions
even if it's sheading a tear.

CarrieMonet
09-22-2004, 03:16 PM
hmmm, it's funny you both point out that you're human...like I'M the one saying you're less than a man if you cry.

I was home early yesterday getting my computer fixed. A man was on Maury Povich crying because someone had given his daughter a black eye. The man who was fixing my computer said the guy was a punk for crying on national television...

Which is what prompted the question. Maybe I should have said what do you think of OTHER men who you see crying in public?

MississippiRed
09-22-2004, 04:57 PM
I don't know man....I mean being raised in the South in general and Mississippi specifically we were raised that a man shouldn't cry and if he does it's something that hurts him to his soul..and that's what I still believe it's not manly to shed tears I've never cried in front of my kids and only in front of my wife once and that was when my Daddy died but crying because your daughter got a black eye I'm sorry that's punk....I'd be trying to get my daughter in a position to get some get back....but then again that's me...what do I know....I'm not the most sensitive man...but if another man wants to cry then that's on him....what can I say..nothing...

Mississippi Red

CarrieMonet
09-22-2004, 05:32 PM
His daughter had cerebal palsy, her nurse was beating her when no one was around.

MississippiRed
09-22-2004, 05:36 PM
Oh shhhhhhh now that's a different subject all together...man I'm hot just hearing that man.....I'd get Iraqi on an adult that did one of my liluns like that ...wouldn't even use a sharp knife ..I'd break out a old plastic butterknife and get to gettin it....it's some cold hearted folk in this world....

Mississippi Red

MrBlak
09-22-2004, 06:04 PM
His daughter had cerebal palsy, her nurse was beating her when no one was around.
The man was not a punk for that situation...that is tough to find out your child or anyone you love getting treated like that.

I would try not to judge if I saw a man crying in public......unless there was no reason and he was being a sissy. :lol:

I am from a family where that type of emotion was never shown and as a child, there was no benefit to showing such an emotion...so I dont react to pain and sadness that way....but to each their own.

MANASIAC
09-23-2004, 05:48 PM
Crying is the first step of breaking down the barrier of lack of communication.

kente417mojo
09-23-2004, 06:39 PM
Only if she misses her period.

No, I don't cry that much. I actually haven't cried in years. Last time I did I was by myself anyways like 7 years ago. I don't think it's bad for men to cry though. Just not over a woman. :uhoh:

MANASIAC
09-23-2004, 06:58 PM
Lol@Kente.

I myself cry all the time, tears of joy and tears of pain. It is better therapy than trying to confide in someone who is fake, ya know.

kente417mojo
09-24-2004, 06:28 PM
Lol@Kente.

I myself cry all the time, tears of joy and tears of pain. It is better therapy than trying to confide in someone who is fake, ya know.

I hear you man. Why confide in someone like that.

Solo
09-24-2004, 06:36 PM
I don't have time to cry. I'd rather spend the time looking for a solution to whatever it is that makes me want to cry in the first place. Nothing wrong with crying; absolutely not. But for me it wouldn't solve anything. I don't have time to be crying in the dark.

MANASIAC
09-25-2004, 02:05 AM
Solo we know you cry in the dark because you cry out loud on the forum, you can stop lying to yourself playa, every soul cries in the shadows.

Solo
09-25-2004, 11:20 AM
No, I really don't cry. There was a time a few years ago that I was so distraught over my lonliness I lay in bed and tried to MAKE myself cry, since I thought that would help. But I couldn't do it. The tears wouldn't come. I didn't cry at my father's funeral, I don't cry over anything. It's not that I think it's wrong or it makes you a punk, it's just not something I do. I guess it's because I don't feel like it helps or benefits and I see it as a waste, at least for me it is.

NNQueen
09-27-2004, 01:15 PM
There are different ways to "cry" so it isn't confined to shedding tears. As someone already said, crying can depict happiness as well as sadness, including anger and rage. When someone is under emotional distress, they call out for help or express their feelings in different ways. Some cry and some take it out on things or others in more drastic ways. Pain is pain and how someone shows it is important for someone close to an individual who has been hurt to learn and know. It could make a significant difference in someone's life.

Queenie :spinstar:

atomicangel
10-04-2004, 02:17 PM
my reply might not be needed but i think it's kind of sweet when a man cries. To see the 'Macho' man shed a tear kind of reassures me in a way because sometimes when i cry in front of a guy i feel a bit pathetic. it gives me the opportunity to hold him and get closer to him too. it makes me look at him as more human, too.
i think crying is stress relieving. it's a good way to release anger, stress or pain. but maybe it's because i'm a lil bit emotional. :uhh:

panafrica
10-04-2004, 04:49 PM
PanAfrica never cries...I only make other people cry!

Emeka
11-11-2004, 12:37 PM
No way is it Ok for men to cry. What the hell is this?! Women can cry if they wont, because they are women, they can be forgiven for showing weakness. As for men? NEVER!!! If my daughter had cerebal palsy and was being beating by her nurse, I would not cry about it. I would AVENGE!!!! Simple.

$$RICH$$
11-11-2004, 12:54 PM
to weep a tear don't make you any less then a man
what it do is show you have a heart and feeling com'mo
now we all human and we cry some way or nother i agree with NNQ here

what keep most men from a tear is his pride as a man !
we all weep differently out of way unknown but we weep
as human beings

I cry/weep...... but I am a MAN

Emeka
11-11-2004, 01:21 PM
to weep a tear don't make you any less then a man
what it do is show you have a heart and feeling com'mo
now we all human and we cry some way or nother i agree with NNQ here

what keep most men from a tear is his pride as a man !
we all weep differently out of way unknown but we weep
as human beings

Forget all this mushy mumbo-jumbo feminine garbbage. This 'men cry because the're all humans too' stupidity is pathetic, unmanley and has got to stop. I'm sorry, but men are not supposed to strong and self-controlled. Not breaking down into tears like little girls at any whimsical thing. I don't care what this effeminate society tells to the males (especially little boys) that it's ok to 'get in touch with your feminine side' I can not accept this. Men are men and women are women. Women should not be playing the role of a man, nor should men be playing the role of women. And what's wrong is that the men are begining to accept their emasculization with out complaint.

$$RICH$$
11-11-2004, 02:13 PM
hold up let me tell u one thing for sure i'm no four leg dog
so do reframe the use of such word for the B word is on our banned
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Destee
11-11-2004, 03:56 PM
Yeah, says you. For me if you cry/weep and a male, then that makes you a B*tch!!

Brother Chukwuemeka ... did you have to go here? You know the Brother is thinking you called him a B*tch ... and i don't know that anyone could read this and think otherwise ... wassup with this kinda dialogue?

Can you fix this please?

Thanks in advance.

:heart:

Destee

Emeka
11-12-2004, 12:20 AM
hold up let me tell u one thing for sure i'm no four leg dog
infact you view of it tells me u are a cry baby because right now
u weeping over discussion
now that you have step wrong and out of disrespect it will not be
so do reframe the use of such word for the B word is on our banned
list as moderator I ask that you remove it NOW !!!!

Make me!!!!

[/QUOTE]Men are humans too we cry / weep at some point u not steel rethink your action and fast .............don't bite off more then you can chew[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Keep dreaming...keep dreaming!

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I see one's toss stones hide behind cloth
look and run give me more reasons to see that men cry
also sho me that one's can't stand strong so forth not a MAN

Look, a man is never supposed to cry unless he undergoes some extrordinarly traumatic experience, such as watcing a child gradually die of some incurable disease, etc. Any thing less than this...then that guy better be walking around wearing a dress!

[/QUOTE]I AM A MAN most of all a MAN of respect that makes me more man
now i'll pass this alone to your heart of manly guilt and hope u rethink
what a human really is and not steel ........nor a B...................!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

I'm willing to let this pass as soon as you are.

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BY THE WAY I'M MORE MAN THEN YOU EVER KNOW OR SEE
we all have our view and feelings on it but men do cry and so do you
and i will show you how much man i really am
don't set forth judgement on a man when you are not the judge
to call me out my name was low as a man so why are you crying and for what???

How says I'm crying. You're then one whose getting all emotional about this. I mean three consecutive posts? Is this really necessary?

[/QUOTE]let discuss it more and see if a more solution can be resolve or will
you continue to hide Big Real man![/QUOTE]

Shoot way, I'm listening. Btw..."Big Real man"? Is that a joke?!

[/QUOTE]not trying to pull this away from the facts or discussion but it
was low and foul and a rule was broken in two ways . :nono: :nono:[/QUOTE]

May be...

Emeka
11-12-2004, 12:38 AM
Brother Chukwuemeka ... did you have to go here? You know the Brother is thinking you called him a B*tch ... and i don't know that anyone could read this and think otherwise ... wassup with this kinda dialogue?

Can you fix this please?

Thanks in advance.

:heart:

Destee

Ok, ok, ok, ok...geesh Destee, you sound like my mother, lol. Look Rich, I sincerly and wholeheartedly apologize to you if I offended you (and to the rest of the DDF family. When I stated that "For me if you cry/weep and a male, then that makes you a B*tch" it really was not meant as an insult to you personally per say (though I can see how you could have seen it that way). I was trying to say that in my opinion, if a man (any man) were to cry and weep over little insignificant things, then that guy would be effeminate. Although I used the singular noun of "you" I meant it in a plural sense and was not trying to attack you. As for the use of the B word, it was used for impact purposes, and since I know that no swearing is allowed here, I did a little self-censorship myself. That's why there is a star in between the b and the t.

Thank you

P.S I've even removed the offending sentence.

Emeka
11-12-2004, 12:48 AM
so u wanna play games and be a child then you will be treated as one
your time is up !
all we asked was that you remove it ...o u say make u worry not i will

pass .....are you for real you disrespect somebody foul and won't remove
it as i ask nicely as moderator of this community u tell me to make you
so be it .......so u wanna play !

we have different views on if a man should cry i respected your and should have
mines men cry say you don't heartless men don't cry but they weep badly inside
deep and also leaves them with a greater problem .....

no it's not a joke nobody laughing at all sir.
so you want to continue to disrespect me and the forum rules and Destee
sad brutha very sad ..................now again i ask that you remove this mess
within 24 hours ........

Wow, wow, wow!!! What the HELL?!! I removed the sentence already and I apologized to you. Where is this coming from? Now you're giving me ultimatums and threats? Ok I apologized to you (very sincerly and honestly) to you ONCE, I shall not do so again!

P.S. what ever happens, happens...

Emeka
11-12-2004, 12:59 AM
likewise.................

It's nice to see that we are in perfect agreement.

$$RICH$$
11-12-2004, 01:13 AM
i don't agree with you .............

Emeka
11-12-2004, 01:15 AM
i don't agree with you .............

Ok, please explain this comment?

Radical Faith
11-12-2004, 01:23 AM
I was 8 years old when my grandma passed. I remember seeing my father shed a tear and crying. From that point on I knew it was okay for a man to cry. My father was a black belt in Karate, a soldier in the Army and a black militant. I didn't know God but I knew my father. So anyone that think it's not okay to cry is lying to themselves. Crying is healthy. Crying is how you get past grief. I cried for a moment when on 9/11 when those planes clashed into the World Trade Center. I knew 1000s of people were going to die. I cried when they showed a man searching for his wife. He was showing her picture to passers-by. After the towers completely collapsed and it got later the grim reality seeped in that he may never see his wife again and the man broke down. You would have to be pretty hard hearted not to shed tears as you felt the man's tragedy and agony. Not to say the man with the daughter wasn't angry but maybe it broke his heart to see his daughters disfigured face that was abused by a system they placed their trust in. A child with cerebal palsy is a helpless victum that has no way of defending it's self. So brothers whether you cry in the light or the dark, shed crocidile tears,or boo-woo out loud all men cry even the hardest of hard.

Peace

Radical Faith

$$RICH$$
11-12-2004, 01:46 AM
sure happy to express why!!!

true facts ::: Men do cry /weep and feel as human beings , man cry inside
from pain / man cry teary eyez / man cry as some point as a man and from
different stand points even pride breaks down and man cry/weep we all do
as human .
I also disagree fully because there is no written proof that man don't or
should cry which you fail to prove i agree that you may not cry but as a
human being really you do just not in tears but inside you do and trust me
you will weep tears as a man

i also disagree because you have no respect for others what so ever
stop fooling self and let ego's go the pride factor down and know men
cry and it's very well ok to cry it don't make you any less of a man or
stain who you are
i don't agree ....you can't judge another man and say they need a dress
or call names because what you think is right which is so wrong man cry
theirs no human on earth that don't cry and if so they need H20 bad ....
these are true facts not a myth or personal thinking

i don't agree with you at all at no point ........brutha you over step your self
don't make false statements about others when you don't know or see it as
they do we all have our view on it and mines stand
I CRY / WEEP / FEEL / and i am respectful I am a MAN as any walking talking
or looking if you can't buy that accept it then it's your rights but don't down mines
do you overstand now brutha ........

Emeka
11-12-2004, 02:11 AM
sure happy to express why!!!

true facts ::: Men do cry /weep and feel as human beings , man cry inside
from pain / man cry teary eyez / man cry as some point as a man and from
different stand points even pride breaks down and man cry/weep we all do
as human .
I also disagree fully because there is no written proof that man don't or
should cry which you fail to prove i agree that you may not cry but as a
human being really you do just not in tears but inside you do and trust me
you will weep tears as a man

i also disagree because you have no respect for others what so ever
stop fooling self and let ego's go the pride factor down and know men
cry and it's very well ok to cry it don't make you any less of a man or
stain who you are
i don't agree ....you can't judge another man and say they need a dress
or call names because what you think is right which is so wrong man cry
theirs no human on earth that don't cry and if so they need H20 bad ....
these are true facts not a myth or personal thinking

i don't agree with you at all at no point ........brutha you over step your self
don't make false statements about others when you don't know or see it as
they do we all have our view on it and mines stand
I CRY / WEEP / FEEL / and i am respectful I am a MAN as any walking talking
or looking if you can't buy that accept it then it's your rights but don't down mines
do you overstand now brutha ........


What ever man.

PurpleMoons
11-12-2004, 02:46 AM
From one woman's perspective!

When my man cries, I don't see it as a weakness. I see it as strength. I say strength because it shows me that my man is brave enough to break the sterotypical notion that a man isn't supposed to cry. It also tells me that he is warm, caring, and have an enormous ability to love me with all his heart. He is not afraid to feel and demonstrate his compassion in situations that can be overwhelming.

If my man was ashamed to be seen crying, I would think that his love for me was superficial. I would think that he doesn't feel. So how can he love me if he can not or will not allow himself to feel pain as well as love. If he cant release his pain in a humble way, I would be afraid that his pain would turn into rage. Which in turn could cause harm to me, himself, and others.

However, If he cries because that bottle of lotion on the dresser fell off and landed on his toe, I would become alarmed. If he cries because he didn't get that Job he wanted and refused to take actions to obtain another one. Then I would be alarmed. If he cried because another man keeps harrasing him. I would become alarmed.

If my man cries because the emotional pain he feels has him overwhelmed. I would just love him even more. And to me he is more than a man. He is human and he is my man!

Emeka
11-12-2004, 03:14 AM
From one woman's perspective!

When my man cries, I don't see it as a weakness. I see it as strength. I say strength because it shows me that my man is brave enough to break the sterotypical notion that a man isn't supposed to cry. It also tells me that he is warm, caring, and have an enormous ability to love me with all his heart. He is not afraid to feel and demonstrate his compassion in situations that can be overwhelming.

If my man was ashamed to be seen crying, I would think that his love for me was superficial. I would think that he doesn't feel. So how can he love me if he can not or will not allow himself to feel pain as well as love. If he cant release his pain in a humble way, I would be afraid that his pain would turn into rage. Which in turn could cause harm to me, himself, and others.

However, If he cries because that bottle of lotion on the dresser fell off and landed on his toe, I would become alarmed. If he cries because he didn't get that Job he wanted and refused to take actions to obtain another one. Then I would be alarmed. If he cried because another man keeps harrasing him. I would become alarmed.

If my man cries because the emotional pain he feels has him overwhelmed. I would just love him even more. And to me he is more than a man. He is human and he is my man!

Ahh common now sista PurpleMoons, you can't really be serious with this? Your comments above remind me of when women say they want a nice, sensitive, guy who's "in touch with his feminine side"; yet who are actually attracted to the very opposite of the character traits they proclaim they want. The truth is that women—yes, you included—like their men to be men and not effeminate (no matter what feminists may say). This is a biological mechanism in built in the female psyche to ensure that he mates with the manliest male in her species, and thus ensures her offspring’s survival. That is why women are so severely put off at the thought of a man who is homosexual. They might go shopping and pour their hearts out to a gay man; but as for getting involved with him in a relationship other than platonic? NO WAY!!!

PurpleMoons
11-12-2004, 03:29 AM
lol I am serious Brother chukuemeka. :laugh: He really is sweet, loving, giving, and compassionate when he needs to be. He is also a Strong, ferious, determined, warrior when it calls for it.

You don't believe a man can be all this if he cries when his heart is hurting. I asure you Brother, If you met my man, you would not think him any less of a man. If it calls for him to be about it, then their is no doubt that he will be about. I must admit though, The side I have seen is never shown while in presense of other men.

Emeka
11-12-2004, 03:33 AM
lol I am serious Brother chukuemeka. :laugh: He really is sweet, loving, giving, and compassionate when he needs to be. He is also a Strong, ferious, determined, warrior when it calls for it.

You don't believe a man can be all this if he cries when his heart is hurting. I asure you Brother, If you met my man, you would not think him any less of a man. If it calls for him to be about it, then their is no doubt that he will be about. I must admit though, The side I have seen is never shown while in presense the of other men.

Aiight sis, I here ya.

PurpleMoons
11-12-2004, 03:40 AM
:kiss: :love:

panafrica
11-12-2004, 03:46 AM
There are a lot of things worthy of heavy debate & discussion (even argument); however, I don't think a man's right to cry is one of them. How a man should conduct themselves in public is cultural to a large degree. In many cultures it is considered improper for a man to show emotion. Other cultures do not have the same restrictions. I have only seen my father cry once in my lifetime, when my grandfather (his father) died 10 years ago. I know another brother around my father's age, who will literally cry at the drop of a hat! Despite this wide difference in public behavior, I consider both to be men...true men! The reason for this is because I don't measure manhood by public displays of emotion or toughness. To me a man is someone who takes care of his children. A man is someone who provides for his wife or girlfriend. A man is someone who honors & respects his parents, brothers, and sisters. A man goes to work every day, and pays the bills. A person can be the "hardest" dude on the block, but if he is running around making babies, and not taking care of them (or not working)....in my eyes that same brother is a punk! Others might see that same brother and feel he is a god, but that is my opinion.

seminoleBACP
11-12-2004, 09:41 AM
I do not think it makes a man less of a man because cries, at least on certain issues. Crying is a form of catharsis, an emotional release of stress or hurt or something in relation to the first two. if it is something along the lines of a death of a loved one, losing a job, or because he is happy. But do not cry because some female dumped you! Black women right now are in surplus to black males, 12 to 1 (year 2002), respectively. It my own belief that all men will have a catharsis of some great significance sometime in their lifetime unless it has already occurred.





You gon' make bring my cursor to a real slow blink!

Khasm13
11-12-2004, 04:05 PM
the last time i cried was when my friend of 10 years was murdered in college back in 1991. i was also brought up that men do not cry and maybe that is the reason i haven't cried in over 13 years. while i think that it's ok for men to cry...i believe that it should be something very serious that brings this about. in the family structure...the man must be the strongest...at least this was how i was raised...to tell u the truth, i am not looking forward to the next instance where i cry if there is one...because i know that it will have to be something truly bad that has happened in my life to prompt this....it's ok to cry men...just not over spilled beer...:lol:
one love
khasm

NNQueen
11-15-2004, 07:34 AM
If men shouldn't cry...about anything they want to cry about...then why do they have tear ducts just like women do? Have "we" bought into the whole social construct that men are less manly IF and WHEN they cry? Why do they cry as babies and when something hurts them deeply? How can anyone create a list like a prescription that proposes that men should ONLY cry under certain circumstances and women can cry at anytime and for any reason? Is anyone suggesting that a man that cries for whatever reason can't be the head of a household or the head of a major corporation or a protector of women or a hardcore criminal or......and the list goes on. How did it ever come about that people think that it's not right that men should cry? Who started that notion and why are "we" (some of us anyway) to this day, still firm and adamant believers of this notion?

Queenie :spinstar:

Emeka
11-15-2004, 09:19 PM
If men shouldn't cry...about anything they want to cry about...then why do they have tear ducts just like women do? Have "we" bought into the whole social construct that men are less manly IF and WHEN they cry? Why do they cry as babies and when something hurts them deeply? How can anyone create a list like a prescription that proposes that men should ONLY cry under certain circumstances and women can cry at anytime and for any reason? Is anyone suggesting that a man that cries for whatever reason can't be the head of a household or the head of a major corporation or a protector of women or a hardcore criminal or......and the list goes on. How did it ever come about that people think that it's not right that men should cry? Who started that notion and why are "we" (some of us anyway) to this day, still firm and adamant believers of this notion?

Queenie :spinstar:

Sista Queenie, you gotta overstand that men must be men! Women can be forgiven by society for crying and showing weakness, but a man NEVER will. There is a current campaign in this society to effeminize men by conning them into thinking that there's something wrong with being macho (i.e. manly), and good for him to "get in touch with your feminine side". I personally don't think that a man should, but since I know that we are human, I accept that there should be exceptions. However, I DEFINATELY do not agree that a man should cry in public. That to me is a big HELL NO!!!!!

river
11-18-2004, 10:09 PM
Forget all this mushy mumbo-jumbo feminine garbbage. This 'men cry because the're all humans too' stupidity is pathetic, unmanley and has got to stop. I'm sorry, but men are not supposed to strong and self-controlled. Not breaking down into tears like little girls at any whimsical thing. I don't care what this effeminate society tells to the males (especially little boys) that it's ok to 'get in touch with your feminine side' I can not accept this. Men are men and women are women. Women should not be playing the role of a man, nor should men be playing the role of women. And what's wrong is that the men are begining to accept their emasculization with out complaint.
What you must understand is that it's not about what you can and cannot accept. My brothers know who they are. By no means will they allow you to define manhood for them. You may call them names like weak, efeminate or little girls but as strong as you think you are you have no power to reduce these men based on your standards. They are the ones who have the power to define themselves while you have become nothing more than a talking head with little influence.

river
11-18-2004, 10:33 PM
Make me!!!!

Men are humans too we cry / weep at some point u not steel rethink your action and fast .............don't bite off more then you can chew]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Keep dreaming...keep dreaming!

Destee,

Aren't our members required to be at least 18years old? This cat sounds like some five year old who needs somebody to give him something to cry for. "Make Me!!!!" With not one not two but no less than four exclamation points.

Brother Chuk, you desire to have control over other men but you don't even have control over your own self.

$$RICH$$
11-18-2004, 11:04 PM
some cry one way / some cry another way / some weep within deeply / some cry through
pain and anger / some cry mentally as well spiritrually through a physical moment but one
thing we have to stop this false act and elevate truth MEN CRIES.....and still a MAN !

caramelpython
11-21-2004, 04:50 PM
LIke jay-Z said and i quote : "I can't see it coming down my eye so I have to let the song cry" :D

real men do cry and have no shame in it but can some of you so called sensitive brothers have some self respect and don't cry about every dam thing? LOL

MANASIAC
11-22-2004, 06:44 AM
Say Chuck,

Cyring in public has nothing to do with masculinity. Cyring in public is simply a way of expressing ones feelings.


You got to get over yourself . You are only fooling your self if you think you never cry, I think you and Brother Solo ought to hangout you guys would make good friends, he does not cry either...

plainrhythm
11-22-2004, 07:10 AM
men should cry and if there is any man who thinks he doesn't cry he's got another thing coming. i really wanna see this men at a funeral.
you can't have a heart and not cry.

Emeka
11-22-2004, 12:02 PM
Say Chuck,

Cyring in public has nothing to do with masculinity. Cyring in public is simply a way of expressing ones feelings.

So you cry in public, and in front of your boyz too, right?

You got to get over yourself . You are only fooling your self if you think you never cry, I think you and Brother Solo ought to hangout you guys would make good friends, he does not cry either...

It's you guys who are fooling yourselves, because you're are mistaking an ideal world (where a man can show such weakness as crying in public, without being ridiculed) with that of the real world. People like to delude themselves with similar kind of thinking, which has no real basis in reality, yet is idealic in nature and so recieves popular support.

plainrhythm
11-22-2004, 12:10 PM
So you cry in public, and in front of your boyz too, right?



It's you guys who are fooling yourselves, because are mistaking an ideal world (where a man can show such weakness as crying in public, without being ridiculed) with that of the real world. People like to delude themselves with similar kind of thinking, which has no real basis in reality, yet is idealic in nature and so recieves popular support.

you've got a point there, but i don't think they mean that. i think they mean like, a tear dripping out your eye silently, not a brother wailing and screaming "oh my goodness" at the top of his lungs. so i guess it's ok, if your homies are real homies they would understand, but also you can't go around screaming for everything. crying in public is ok for both sexes, just don't make a scene.

river
11-22-2004, 02:14 PM
There are all kinds of ways to cry. If you are a person whose tear ducts simply do not function that's okay as long as you have some kind of way to release distress to avoid a stroke or heart failure from holding stuff in.

If your tear ducts work fine but you are trying really hard not to let the tears drop you are adding to the stress of the situation the stress of holding stuff in with no outlet. This is not about strength. This is about the fear of what others will think and say. Everybody we meet knows we are a human being so what is the point of going through life trying to keep people from finding out what they already know? That's like the ostrich who sticks his head in the sand and his tail in the air. Get your head out of the sand and look around. Only those who are weak inside envy those who are strong outside. Those who are strong inside see the tail sticking in the air and laugh.

$$RICH$$
11-22-2004, 04:54 PM
it's just simple men cry if they human no doubt all the self inflicked pride that one don't
weep is lying to self or putting up a front ! people everyone cries it's life , it shouldn't be
a debate on if one cry because everyone do and will keep living !

it's not that you cry but what you cry about ....some men cry about anything some cry for
the right reasons but truth is they cry so chill on the fronting everyone cries

Destee
05-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey Family ... i went back and found this thread, and it seems the overwhelming opinion is that men should be crying ... and plus ... Sister Queenie said that's why yall got tear ducts ... so cry on Brother, cry on ...

but i'm witchoo Brother Mississippi ... men cry'n like women and girls ... sump'n aint rite 'bout that

:heart:

Destee

oldiesman
05-05-2006, 02:34 PM
all of us are different,for you brothers with no children let me hip you to something,when you see your child accomplish things as they grow[grades,school programs,ect.]it will touch you in a way you never dreamed and your heart will fill with so much pride that the tears will flow[although we as blackmen always want to portray that cool thing]but believe me it'll happen.

Slowly
05-05-2006, 02:48 PM
I cried when Rosa Parks died. I also cry when I get too too happy, especially in church.

SAMURAI36
05-05-2006, 02:50 PM
I cried when Rosa Parks died. I also cry when I get too too happy, especially in church.

I cried with my mother died. I also cried when my home burned down. I cried with my God-Son was born. I cried when I broke up with my last girlfriend.

Also, when I finally moved out from my father's house (a house that we financially shared), he cried over that.

I guess none of us are "REAL MEN". :rolleyes:

PEACE

Sanaiah25
05-05-2006, 03:38 PM
I cried with my mother died. I also cried when my home burned down. I cried with my God-Son was born. I cried when I broke up with my last girlfriend.

Also, when I finally moved out from my father's house (a house that we financially shared), he cried over that.

I guess none of us are "REAL MEN". :rolleyes:

PEACE

We know you all are.

Kemetstry
05-05-2006, 03:44 PM
Hey Family ... i went back and found this thread, and it seems the overwhelming opinion is that men should be crying ... and plus ... Sister Queenie said that's why yall got tear ducts ... so cry on Brother, cry on ...

but i'm witchoo Brother Mississippi ... men cry'n like women and girls ... sump'n aint rite 'bout that

:heart:

Destee


.o0( I knew you like girly men )

Destee
05-05-2006, 03:53 PM
.o0( I knew you like girly men )

i don't just like you ... i love you ... :love:

:heart:

Destee

Isaiah
05-05-2006, 03:54 PM
all of us are different,for you brothers with no children let me hip you to something,when you see your child accomplish things as they grow[grades,school programs,ect.]it will touch you in a way you never dreamed and your heart will fill with so much pride that the tears will flow[although we as blackmen always want to portray that cool thing]but believe me it'll happen.

DAPZ, brother! I know the feelin'!(smile!)

I also know what it's like to weep when I couldn't control my anger, and got fired from a job...

I, also, know what it's like to weep when I CONTROLLED my anger, and a fool continued to live on, and I didn't have to go to jail because of it...

I also know how some of you women who think like this, raised your sons, and that YOU shouldn't be surprised one day when he does something to his wife or girlfriend behind it... YOU are as much RESPONSIBLE for his behavior as he is... REMEMBER THAT behind all of you damned snickering, o.k.?


Peace!
Isaiah

Kemetstry
05-05-2006, 03:55 PM
i don't just like you ... i love you ... :love:

:heart:

Destee


Watch that woman!!!!!!!!!! :lol:


Men still goooooooooooooooooooood!!!!!

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