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kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 05:26 PM
Why don't men have as many options for birth control as women do? All men seem to have are condoms or vasectomy. I don't know of many other options. Women have pills, the patch, a depo shot, diaphrams (I think that's what it's called) and more. Why are men so limited when it comes to controlling this issue. Do they think men all over the world will use it too much to avoid having kids...in the process ending all humankind? Probably will, but we should have the option to do so if we choose. Is it just me? Has anyone else noticed this. Maybe there are other options out there that I just don't know about. Does anyone know of anymore options for men? Honestly, condoms suck but we have to use them. They take away all feeling. Vesectomies are scary...so that's out. Plus, you might want to have more kids someday. What do you guys think? I mean, if they had a shot or patch for men I'd be the first in line and I'd buy months and months worth of it. :peace:

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 05:49 PM
Not only have I noticed that CONDOMS are NEVER on sale, I notice that men don't seem to have the same options.

It would be interesting to compare the stats of unplanned pregnancies if men AND women were both using contraceptives.

kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 05:56 PM
It would be interesting to compare the stats of unplanned pregnancies if men AND women were both using contraceptives.

It would because you know a guy would NEVER forget to take his pill. There would be no slip-ups. He might take two at the same time just in case one is a "dud". I just think it would be great if men had as many options as women to prevent pregnancies, since we don't have any options once a woman gets pregnant.

jamesfrmphilly
09-14-2004, 05:56 PM
i wanna get a vasectomy but i have this fear of white men standing around my johnson with sharp objects in their hands, u know? :x:

MississippiRed
09-14-2004, 06:19 PM
Dog a vasectomy is the easiest thing in the world ...I got mine done a little over 2 years ago...June 26 2002...took all of 30 minutes.....only had a little pain problem on the left side and had to get to injections to kill the pain but other than that no problems whatsoever.....

Mississippi Red

kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 06:27 PM
Dog a vasectomy is the easiest thing in the world ...I got mine done a little over 2 years ago...June 26 2002...took all of 30 minutes.....only had a little pain problem on the left side and had to get to injections to kill the pain but other than that no problems whatsoever.....
Mississippi Red

One thing I've always been scared of was that people would tell me that some men have performance anxiety after a vasectomy and can't get it up. It's only some though. I'm sure the number is small. That was one thing I was always scared of though. Maybe these men had performance anxiety before even having the vasectomy though. Still, it would be nice to have more than a couple of options...and one out of the two requires surgery.

panafrica
09-14-2004, 06:27 PM
i wanna get a vasectomy but i have this fear of white men standing around my johnson with sharp objects in their hands, u know?

Ain't that the truth!!

PurpleMoons
09-14-2004, 06:45 PM
I think that the reason a man don't have as many options as a women is because it is a womens body who actually withstands all the changes it will take on her. Therefor, the choice is hers.

I remember a time when women didn't have much of a choice either. It was illegal for a women to abort a child, yet many women were risking their lives and dying because they either had to many children already or they couldn't bare the humilation of having a child and not being married.

You raise a very valid point. Maybe men should protest for more birth control for men.

Surly there is another choice that you didn't mention. If you don't want to have children at the time, you can simple avoid having sex.

$$RICH$$
09-14-2004, 06:52 PM
it's just the human nature of it , men will work by the sweat of his bra
women will bare all labor so the choices was made long ago and given
women more options to control birth or bring forth life .

jamesfrmphilly
09-14-2004, 06:56 PM
If you don't want to have children at the time, you can simple avoid having sex.
is that the new wonder drug? (noassatall) :tongue:

jamesfrmphilly
09-14-2004, 06:59 PM
It was illegal for a women to abort a child
will be again, soon as the repubs get elected :uhoh:

jamesfrmphilly
09-14-2004, 07:03 PM
One thing I've always been scared of was that people would tell me that some men have performance anxiety after a vasectomy and can't get it up.
i get that problem without the vasectomy :eeek:

panafrica
09-14-2004, 07:06 PM
will be again, soon as the repubs get elected

Don't believe the hype sister Purple...that is just election talk. If the Republicans outlawed abortion...what would they do when their unmarried daughters get pregnant? If Barbara or Jenna Bush got pregnant by a black man, do you honestly expect ol' GWB to tell them to keep the baby? If you believe so, I have land in Alaska to sell you!

PurpleMoons
09-14-2004, 07:15 PM
Brother Pan
Don't believe the hype sister Purple...that is just election talk. If the Republicans outlawed abortion...what would they do when their unmarried daughters get pregnant? If Barbara or Jenna Bush got pregnant by a black man, do you honestly expect ol' GWB to tell them to keep the baby? If you believe so, I have land in Alaska to sell you!

:lol: Oh Brother Pan, SMH I think I love you! :lol: In that case, I'll just leave my iron panties locked away for now. :lol:

kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 07:36 PM
I don't think abstinence is an option. :lol: I understand that it is the woman that has to bear the child and push and scream when the time comes to have it. Men however have to take responsibility also because we have to be there after the child is born. I think men should have the option to NOT have a child with a woman without having to avoid sex. Women have the option to do so. I don't think it's about who's giving birth because if the man had the same chioces...no one would be getting pregnant period. There would be no debate as to who's body goes through what changes..because there would be no changes to go through. Like $$RICH$$ said, when that baby is on the way men know they have to work and stress about taking care of him/her. So why should we just have to sit back and have limited choices about something that changes our lives forever? Even after getting pregnant women still can abort the pregnancy...and that's understandable because then it's a matter of who's body the baby is in. But before that (conception) happens it should be 50-50.

Iron panties :huh:

panafrica
09-14-2004, 07:51 PM
If the Bush daughters got pregnant by a black men...George would make them have 2 abortions...just to make sure!! :grin:

MANASIAC
09-14-2004, 07:51 PM
I probably will do the vasectomy in a few years if I do not find who a woman can keep my attention for longer than 5 minutes. I am no real fan of having children so I do not need the ability, it will of course save a lot of headache and drama down the road. If I get a woman thats want them after the procedure and she wants kids, she can adopt, if she wants to leave for not having kids, that is fine. I replace women like you replace trash bags.

I do not care for the whole legacy thing. I think the idea of Legacy is flawed and impossible to fulfill anyway. I prefer to be successul and alone than to be broke and miserable, with ungreateful, expensive *** children and a nagging wife.

Because kids to cost money, that I do not have nor want to spend :-)

kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 07:54 PM
I know I'd take the birth control pills or the patch as long as it didn't make me gain weight and lose my figure. :lol:

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 07:55 PM
I think that the reason a man don't have as many options as a women is because it is a womens body who actually withstands all the changes it will take on her. Therefor, the choice is hers.

The choice is hers true indeed, but if he doesn't want to have children, he should have other options of birth control than just using condoms...

There are also married couples who have this problem and of course most of them dont use condoms. Most married couples who are "family planning" don't always choose to avoid having sex. I have met a few men who claimed they sought a divorce because they felt their wife was intentionally trying to have children when they'd previously agreed to wait.

This is not just a problem for single folks.

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 07:56 PM
I know I'd take the birth control pills or the patch as long as it didn't make me gain weight and lose my figure.

Silly man, that wouldn't be fair! LOL! You'll have to start growing breasts and hips while taking birth control. LMAO!

MANASIAC
09-14-2004, 07:57 PM
LOL@carriemonet.

kente417mojo
09-14-2004, 07:58 PM
This is not just a problem for single folks.

True, what married couple would want to use protection? Even people who are not married but monogomous tend to not want to have a condom between them and their mate. I always wonder what is the reasoning behind the lack of options. There must be some because this issue has had to come up.

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 07:59 PM
I always wonder what is the reasoning behind the lack of options. There must be some because this issue has had to come up.

I think the TRUE reason is that men are not demanding more options.

MANASIAC
09-14-2004, 07:59 PM
They probably just did not feel like making no pills.

PurpleMoons
09-14-2004, 08:03 PM
I agree Brother Kente. Men should have more choice before conceptions. I guess men have to fight for it as did women. (smiling @ abstinence not being an options) LOL I guess thats pushing it a bit to far huh? LOL

As for the iron panties, there was a device known as a chastity belt. It was made of iron. When men went away for long periods of time they would put this device on their women and and pad lock it with a key that they kept with them. This insured them that no other man would have their way with their woman.

I never seen such a device but it is said that it did exist.

$$RICH$$
09-14-2004, 08:05 PM
lol @ y'all we as men and women are made different with choices
to choose so be it , let me be as i am forget the girly stuff no pill
for me i'll leave that up to the woman .....whew and to think of
breast and hips all dat stuff naw i'll play the condoms role for now !

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 08:09 PM
Rich Wrote:
whew and to think of breast and hips all dat stuff naw i'll play the condoms role for now !
Wha?? You don't want girlie girl hips Rich? *giggling*

panafrica
09-14-2004, 08:09 PM
The Chasity Belt most certainly did exist...and some of ya'll women could benefit from its use today! :grin:

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 08:11 PM
Uh, there are STILL chastity belts out there today.

I won't be buying one though...it might give me cobwebs...

MANASIAC
09-14-2004, 08:14 PM
LOLlllllll

panafrica
09-14-2004, 08:15 PM
Some might have cobwebs anyway!

CarrieMonet
09-14-2004, 08:17 PM
*lQQking*

Nope, no cobwebs yet. WHEW! Ain't been overworked yet. Mental chastity is the best anyway.

fanyamambo
09-15-2004, 03:21 AM
There's a bigger challenge in blocking millions of sperm than there is in blocking one ovum a month!

As far as I know there is a lot of research and testing going on to find a male contraceptive. I believe that there was one developed in Australia to be injected every three to four months. I think the difficulty lies in finding ways to reduce sperm production and in a way that is reversible.

It involves treatment with testesterone (injecting men with testesterone will trigger the brain to think that the testes is overproducing, and its response will be to slow down and eventually stop sperm production )and progestin...however too much testesterone can cause serious side effects(I assumen progestin a 'female' hormone is used to counter these). Even some female contraceptive methods have serious side effects. I remember Depo provera coming under a lot of scrutiny.

as for chastity belts...yup those still exist :D

kente417mojo
09-15-2004, 12:24 PM
There's a bigger challenge in blocking millions of sperm than there is in blocking one ovum a month!

As far as I know there is a lot of research and testing going on to find a male contraceptive. I believe that there was one developed in Australia to be injected every three to four months. I think the difficulty lies in finding ways to reduce sperm production and in a way that is reversible.

It involves treatment with testesterone (injecting men with testesterone will trigger the brain to think that the testes is overproducing, and its response will be to slow down and eventually stop sperm production )and progestin...however too much testesterone can cause serious side effects(I assumen progestin a 'female' hormone is used to counter these). Even some female contraceptive methods have serious side effects. I remember Depo provera coming under a lot of scrutiny.

as for chastity belts...yup those still exist :D

I guess that would be tough stopping all those sperm. Well, it's good to know that it at least crossed their mind. I don't know about that chasity belt thing. Cobwebs are not HOT. Hey, I found something about a new birth control that they are testing. Check it out and see what you think about it?

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/health/wabc_oncall_102703malebirthcontrol.html

NNQueen
09-22-2004, 01:57 PM
:lol: @ Brother James.

Brother Kente, here's a link that you might find interesting because it addresses your questions about other forms of birth control for men.

http://www.stormpages.com/sisterzeus/Hsp2bc4m.htm

Like anything in this country, the squeaky wheel gets the grease (pardon the pun). Research is usually driven by the level of public demand. If men truly want more options, then they should let their interests be known. Eventually, more taxpayers dollars will be pumped into (pardon the pun again) research and more options will suddenly appear.

But still, let's be careful and not dismiss the fact that HIV/AIDS is still very much with us and condoms remain the BEST prevention (outside of sexual abstinance) to the spread of this disease. So, for the most part, if you're going to wear condoms anyway, you might want to consider whether it's worth adding birth control chemicals into your body at the same time.

Just a thought....

Queenie :spinstar:

panafrica
10-04-2004, 04:47 PM
A picture of Rosanne Bar is pretty effective birth control for me! :grin:

MANASIAC
10-04-2004, 05:33 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOO

Marika
02-15-2005, 09:19 PM
Actually outside the US (I can't rem the country at the moment) a patch is available for men to use. I read about it on the net a few months ago.

AHMOSE
02-16-2005, 06:46 AM
Did I hear someone say no sex ut oh......Be like bombs over Bahdad brothers running up and down the street lol. :gossip:

Monetary
03-01-2005, 01:59 PM
Did I hear someone say no sex ut oh......Be like bombs over Bahdad brothers running up and down the street lol. :gossip:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Monetary
03-01-2005, 02:01 PM
Why don't men have as many options for birth control as women do?

Naw, bruh...ain't happening here. They come up with as many as they want. I ain't using it. The condom is as far as I go.

peace

kente417mojo
03-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Naw, bruh...ain't happening here. They come up with as many as they want. I ain't using it. The condom is as far as I go.

peace


Why not? I agree, there are health risk with birth control and any medication, but would'nt it be nice to have the option? I would be careful to use a safe one...or the safest one, but I would like the option other than condoms. My argument is that men should have as many options as women do. I mean come on, in the event of a pregnancy, who is going to get the short end of the stick (finacially, if the two concenting adults aren't together or married)? I think that person should have as many options as the other person does.

panafrica
03-01-2005, 06:29 PM
Child support payments would be pretty effective birth control for me!

Monetary
03-01-2005, 06:30 PM
Why not? I agree, there are health risk with birth control and any medication, but would'nt it be nice to have the option? I would be careful to use a safe one...or the safest one, but I would like the option other than condoms. My argument is that men should have as many options as women do. I mean come on, in the event of a pregnancy, who is going to get the short end of the stick (finacially, if the two concenting adults aren't together or married)? I think that person should have as many options as the other person does.

Brotha man, I totally understand. I do. But, I ain't taken no contraceptives made them other folks, bruh. Ain't gonna happen. However, I do believe that their should be more produced for men as options. Sure. But, I ain't takin''em. :D

Seriously, I understand where you're coming from. However, any woman I get pregnant...and she decides to keep the baby although we're not together, I'd help her take care of our child. I wouldn't leave her hanging. But, I do agree with you. There should be more options for men in this area.

Dapz.

peace.

Monetary
03-01-2005, 06:31 PM
Child support payments would be pretty effective birth control for me!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know it is for me. Hell, I was broke for most of my life...financially broke that is. :D

kente417mojo
03-01-2005, 06:41 PM
You brothas are crazy. I hear you both though. Those drugs are dangerous whether they are for men or women. panafrica got jokes. It's all truth though. You never know what they'll put in those birth control pills for black men. They might make it to where out stuff shrinks so they don't feel so embarrassed in front of their women.


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