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AfroBoricuaRoni
09-03-2004, 12:06 AM
My mother, I'm sure her heart was in the right place, recently went through the motions about my little brother dating White girls and told him don't mess with them. She brought up Kobe and O.J. on several occasions and while it was funny to everybody else around I sat there noticing how my little brother wasn't having as much fun as we were.

All this happened because she pick up the other line while he was on the phone with this girl and to my mother she "sounded White". There was another time when this girl was calling here and I'll admit she sounded like a Mary Kate or an Ashley and when we asked him what she was he didn't say anything.

I'm just asking if it's the best thing to tell your son/daughter, that if you date White woman you'll end up in a Kobe situation. We know lawyers who deal with cases like these all of the time and while we don't want him to end up the same way, I still want him to share love wherever it is reciprocated and I want him to be happy, even if it is with a White woman. I'm wouldn't be all that happy but I'm not going to have an attitude about it either.

And it's like come on, he's a biracial child. How can he just date one and rule out all others as if that was the right way because if it was we wouldn't be here.

Would you tell your kid that White woman are trouble?

Destee
09-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Sister AfroBoricuaRoni ... i have been consistently impressed with the wisdom that you display, as well as the very mature way you present it. You are a shining light when it comes to our youth and i'm sure your parents beam with pride at the great work they've done, in you. Thank you for being a part of this community and sharing so much of yourself with us.

Now, this topic ... whew ... to be asked this question all out in the open and everything, almost makes me feel "guilty" at the response i must give.

I do have a 26 year old son and i have cautioned him many times regarding becoming involved with white women. Given the history of white women and black men in this country, what black parent could not discourage their son from going this way? Such a choice could cost him his very life. I personally would feel as though i had been neglectful, not to warn him of this and all the many snares and traps laid especially for him, the young black male.

In addition to the history surrounding such unions, i am a Black woman. Why would i want to see my child leave me, persay, and go with some other type of woman? As a Black Mother, i believe i'd take such an act somewhat personally. As though my own son voted against me, if you will. This is really deep and may be more indicative of my own "issues," moreso than his.

Living in a country where Black women are portrayed as the least desirable, least attractive, etc., decisions like this by our own sons only intensifies these pains ... in my opinion.

But again, i'm just one Black woman and i'm sure there are many other Mothers here who may have no problem at all with their sons making such choices.

Again, you're a beautiful young woman Sister AfroBoricuaRoni, i can only imagine the great impact you will have on the world in years to come.

Remain forever focused and encouraged young Sister!

:heart:

Destee

toylin
09-03-2004, 12:37 PM
Well, while I agree that I would be hurt, if not downright confusedif my son one day bought home a woman that looked NOTHING like me, I must also admit that I cannot put restrictions on his life. When he's grown, I have no say so in his affairs.

While he's in my home, well, I probably will not necessarily point out that she's White and no good for him, but I will ask, as any concerned parent, why this person? what about them do you like? and so forth.

In my youth, I briefly dated a young man (Mexican.). When my father heard about it, he said, Oh, Lawd.. next you'll be bringing home White folks.

(I never did).

Monetary
09-03-2004, 03:49 PM
In my youth, I briefly dated a young man (Mexican.). When my father heard about it, he said, Oh, Lawd.. next you'll be bringing home White folks. (I never did).

Your Dad is too funny. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I totally agree with Destee and Toylin. I would have to speak my peace in reference to my child bringing home another persuasion. Hopefully, by the time they get to the dating age, I would have discussed the consequences of making a decision such as that. They, of course, would have to be willing to pay the cost. If it is truly love, then grin and bear the consequences...for they shall come.

peace

AfroBoricuaRoni
09-04-2004, 12:35 AM
Thank you sister Destee! I feel honored :)

I agree as well. I can't have too much of a complex about it but I will still advise my brother, future children and any other Black man about "trophy wives" who don't want anything more than to get all they can from our Black men and they let them do it. I'd be happy for them as long as the woman genuinely loved them back.

It does sicken me however that there are woman out there plotting on our brother's like this and when sisters try to protect them they get the third degree about trying to restrain them. Some do it out of rebellion, some out of bad luck with sisters, and other idiotic reasons.

I say if it ain't natural then don't do it. If if it's for any reason other than love then they shouldn't go for it.

KWABENA
09-11-2004, 11:57 AM
No, you do not tell your children to go against white women. Just like white men, not all of them are filthy manipulative creatures. Would you tell you child to ignore and go against women like Susan B. Anthony if she was still alive? There are some women like her, and don't count that out.

Frankly, I would not teach my children to go against ANYONE, however, listen to your family, and your community; people who care.

nabraska
09-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Unfortunately, the old rule still applies today. I am 27 years old, of course from Omaha, Nebraska....I had a friend who dated this white girl, from a small town in out-state Nebraska...and her family gave that brother :jawdrop: :jawdrop: well, you know, but he continued to date her through all type of trouble. Now he isn't bi-racial but if your brother is of a darker hue, then there is of course going to be problems. We look at the way Arabs are being profiled, and many bi-racial people look Arab, so there may be an issue with that. All you can tell your mother and brother is to be careful because unfortunately america is a bit more willing and understanding than they were 40 years ago, but we stilll got a long ways to go. Best of hope 2 ya!! :toast: :toast:

MrBlak
09-11-2004, 07:01 PM
I see some brothas (that choose to date white) not being treated right by those women. These same guys would not put up with that from a black girl. Brothas first of all need to be taught not to accept garbage treatment from ANYONE. Then they need to know that some white women see him as a trophy and no real relationship is gonna occur. The parent should let the kid know their preference and why, but saying out right "dont date them" almost makes sure the kid will try it once. Also luck could play in and the guy meets a white woman that he loves then it will be drama.

I aint a parent but when I am will tell of my preferences.....that any kids of mine stay with blacks, but I would leave it up to them to make the decisions.

MANASIAC
09-11-2004, 11:16 PM
I think love does not have a color.

KWABENA
09-13-2004, 11:20 AM
I am going to start a new thread in the Relationships.

But instead of asking why brothas choose white women and that, I am going to state this:

BROTHAS: WHY WILL YOU NOT DATE A SISTAH?

Find it, and speak ya mind Family!

Cedric Denson

Poeticsoulsista
09-13-2004, 12:22 PM
Well I don't have any children but I am mother to my many brothers. In case any one need to know their ages are from 18- 26. I have 7 of them. I would advise my son not to date a white woman ever. There have been men in my family who have dated white women including my a few of my brothers and all have had some kind of problem. LIFE ALTERING PROBLEMS. I begin with Antione, which is one of my older brothers. The white woman he was dating started stalking him, sliced his tires, scratched his face up and evrything. She pulled a knife out and tried to stab him so he punched her in her face. Now the cops was trying to lock him up for punching her. Even after all she did to him. He wrote complaints and no one did anything until he punched her. Luckily all his complaints and things was on file so he had proof. Next is, Lamont, my little brother, he's 18 and he's a big football star here in Philly. The girls be throwing them selves at him like crazy. I do warn him of females in general but he decided he would just be with the white girl ( who was a bonifided gold diggin whore) She slept with him and then when he said he didn't want a relationship she got mad. She kept persuing him after sleeping with all of his friend including some of my other family members. When her father found out my lil brother was black she said he raped her. Now had my mother and I not seen and watched everything unfold she would have tried to get my little brother locked up and branded as a rapist. Now I have many stories and I could go on and on about my uncle who actually spent 7 years locked down because a white woman got mad he left her for black woman (who is now his wife) a restraining order on him after he broke up with her but then she came to our ( my uncle was living with my mom) with a gun and threatened to shoot him and his new girl friend. Now the cops locked him up for violating the restraining order even though she came to my house. She lied and said he dragged her from my house and beat her really bad. Even though she had no bruises. She has a few ccut and scrapes from fighting my mom but other than that nothing. they gave him time for domestic violence including charges like atempted murder and so on. Now why in Heaven's sake would I want my son (when I have one) or any one of my brothers to go through that. To me messing with a white woman is like signing their life away. I've seen too many black men lose everything. My uncle lost everything and my little brother came close to losing his life before it even got started. What should I advise after seeing some very positive black men experience all of this.


Poetic Sista

MANASIAC
09-13-2004, 01:46 PM
(In response to Ced) As far as me dating Sistahs, I do if they holla. But I date all races. Sistahs can be frustrating at times.

Oba Iparankanru
09-14-2004, 12:28 AM
I will not lie i abhore it, male or female with a white, but at the same time i can't really tell someone who to date, though i would be pissed if my daughter brought a non black home.

panafrica
09-14-2004, 04:03 PM
When her father found out my lil brother was black she said he raped her. Now had my mother and I not seen and watched everything unfold she would have tried to get my little brother locked up and branded as a rapist. Now I have many stories and I could go on and on about my uncle who actually spent 7 years locked down because a white woman got mad he left her for black woman (who is now his wife) a restraining order on him after he broke up with her but then she came to our ( my uncle was living with my mom) with a gun and threatened to shoot him and his new girl friend. Now the cops locked him up for violating the restraining order even though she came to my house. She lied and said he dragged her from my house and beat her really bad. Even though she had no bruises.

This is typical of white women...who can be malicious when angry. They will cry rape in a minute if a black man leaves the relationship before she is ready to end it. Historically many instances where black men were lynched for "raping" white women, in truth the relationship was voluntary (in other cases rape was used as a front to murder black political leaders). All black men who date white need to be aware of this tendency.

panafrica
09-14-2004, 04:05 PM
About my feelings on this issue. I have said in other threads about inter-racial dating, that after being violently against it in my youth...I now accept it as an inevidable part of a intergrated society. However my liberalism has a limitation...the limitation being it happening in my house!

KWABENA
09-14-2004, 09:29 PM
If you really want to see what white women think about the African-American society, one recommendation......


RENT ROSEWOOD
or
BUY ROSEWOOD
or
JUST PLAIN RESEARCH ROSEWOOD

That, in case you do not know, was a true story.

Cedric Denson

Oba Iparankanru
09-15-2004, 03:40 AM
if u want to see what white women think have a black woman that dates white men strike up a convo with them. you will be surprised to hear some of the things they will say lol

AfriKing
12-06-2004, 11:07 AM
I aint a parent but when I am will tell of my preferences.....that any kids of mine stay with blacks, but I would leave it up to them to make the decisions.

If I ever have children, I don't want them to get with White people, but I don't know if I can tell them to only get with Black people to, even though that's what I would want, I wouldn't want to be one of those parents who are resented by their children you see on talk shows for interfering with their lives.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 12:58 PM
See, I have a daughter right now. If she was to show up with a Non-black mate, I wouldn't be upset. I feel like this, as long as whoever it is that she dates treats her the way SHE wants to be treated- I'm cool with it!. Now, if I had a son,hmmm....I wouldn't want him to be with a White chick- they ARE too much trouble, seriously. I have been there and done that- I don't want him to go down that route.Don't get me wrong, I want what is best for my Little Girl too, I just don't want her to be as sheltered as I was when I was a Teen coming up. You know, it's weird, I found myself getting a little bothered when my lil' Brother brought home this Latin Chick....I don't know what that was all about.....hm, oh well.

panafrica
12-06-2004, 03:20 PM
Isn't it hypocritical to support black women dating white men, but discouraging black men from doing the same? A lot of black women who support inter-racial dating do this. Whatever reason behind this thinking (white women are trouble, drama filled, etc), there is no real logic behind it. 1hotvirgowoman I am not trying to constantly call you out, but I want you to see the contradictions in what you endorse.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 04:51 PM
Isn't it hypocritical to support black women dating white men, but discouraging black men from doing the same? A lot of black women who support inter-racial dating do this. Whatever reason behind this thinking (white women are trouble, drama filled, etc), there is no real logic behind it. 1hotvirgowoman I am not trying to constantly call you out, but I want you to see the contradictions in what you endorse.


I hear you Pan' and I agree, I am hypocritical Yes. I knew that from the git', I also knew that you and others would pick up on it, but I still took a chance and posted it- despite the fact of knowing that I would be critiscised. Yup, that is how I felt and I'm Woman enough to admit it. I'm not saying that Brothers shouldn't do it, I just don't want MY Brother to do it!. I've done it, so I 've been there. I don't want that for him, I'm kind of Motherly so it is only natural for me to want what is best for him. And I, would like him to have a Sista' for a mate(which he haves now). Mind you he is only 19 and is bound to explore his options, I can NEVER stand in his way! However, if he happens to get a chicken-head for a girlfriend that's on him!

kente417mojo
12-06-2004, 04:59 PM
A lot of black women seem to do that though. They'll say that they were forced to date non-black men because black men are pretty much NO GOOD...but when a brotha does the same they want to make the argument that he can't handle a black woman. Like the only reason black men date outside their race is because black women are TOO STRONG and independant for us to handle. What a crock. :nuts: I think people should just date who they want to date. No one can make the arguement that white women or anyone else is more trouble than another race. Women period are trouble and drama-filled. I have been with black women that have mad me want to choke them. I'm sure that there are white women out there that would make me want to choke them if I ever tried to date one. Everyone is screwed up and if you advise your child against any race....don't be surprised when they turned out to be racist and screwed up along with the rest of the world.

panafrica
12-06-2004, 05:02 PM
Okay 1hotvirgo...at least you do realize this. Well let me give you some advice, one parent to another: Setting restrictions for 1 child and not another, often causes resentment & rebellion. Part of loving children is being fair with them.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 05:06 PM
See, this is the difference between Me and Those other Chicks. I never said that Black Men were never good enough for me nor did I say that they were No-Good. When I dated outside My Race, I did it because I had good chemistry with this fellow. If a Brother stepped to me and WE had a good Rappaport, then it would have been 'On and Crackin' as well!. I give everyone a chance, you either pass or you fail.

yaphet al-wynn
12-06-2004, 05:10 PM
pan, glad it was you and not me. The hypocrisy abounds-Black women forced to date white, because Black men,they no good. Black men dating white women-cause he can't handle a strong Black woman. Both Cuba gooding and if this is true-Taye Diggs dated and married the same white women that dated them, when they had no money.This is just anamolies-probably-so you will not say a Black woman rejected both of them 'cause THEY had NO money? Now what about Black boys raised by Black women that brought home white men that they are no longer with(or still with)and hearing that mess? With the latter-SET A GOOD EXAMPLE-first!!!

yaphet al-wynn
12-06-2004, 05:19 PM
hotvirgo, so-if you son SAID the exact same thing you just said when he bring home a white girl and he knows of your fling with a white man-he ain't gonna listen to a word you say on the subject.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 05:21 PM
Okay 1hotvirgo...at least you do realize this. Well let me give you some advice, one parent to another: Setting restrictions for 1 child and not another, often causes resentment & rebellion. Part of loving children is being fair with them.



True, true.....That is why I shouldn't have a son- I would be too Protective over him!. My daughter is my Ace tho', she will ALWAYS be My Ace!.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 05:26 PM
hotvirgo, so-if you son SAID the exact same thing you just said when he bring home a white girl and he knows of your fling with a white man-he ain't gonna listen to a word you say on the subject.



He would if he had any Sense!!!! I have been there- he has not!. And furthermore, if he chooses to not listen, then so be it!. 'Cause after all, he IS a Grown a** Man- Right? Right. When time reveals all the things that I have warned him about, he'll come around, hopefully before it's too late....

yaphet al-wynn
12-06-2004, 05:30 PM
Only time will tell. You tried and he can't? So if what come to pass-not that he would do-will you disown him? Say your girl is your ace and she come home with a white man and after you both hi-fived and he turned out to be worse than the Black guys she dated before-will she get care and compassion over your own son?

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 05:44 PM
Only time will tell. You tried and he can't? So if what come to pass-not that he would do-will you disown him? Say your girl is your ace and she come home with a white man and after you both hi-fived and he turned out to be worse than the Black guys she dated before-will she get care and compassion over your own son?



Nope! Not at all. Let someone screw over her- there will be Hell to Pay!!!(hi-five'in it?) where did you get that from? ANYWAYS....

I would NEVER disown anyone of my Children or family Members for that fact- remeber, I am OPEN minded. My Son/Daughter is free to date ANY RACE that they so choose - I will not stand in their way- I can only guide them and that IS my Job as a Mother and I will do it to the fullest degree. If my Son popped up on My Doorstep and said that he was Gay- it wouldn't disown him, I would acept him for what he is- Gay!.

yaphet al-wynn
12-06-2004, 05:48 PM
Oooooooookay, then.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 05:54 PM
Oooooooookay, then.


Wellll, I'm not sure if I answered your question tho', I DO tend to go on a tangent when my mind gets-ta' going!.

panafrica
12-06-2004, 06:13 PM
There is no difference in the dynamics which make up white male-black female relationships and black male-white female relationships. If one is good, then both are good. If one is bad, then both are bad! It can not logically be argued that one is positive and the other is negative. As a result if you are for inter-racial relationships, you have to support them all.

I am not in support of inter-racial relationships. This is my personal choice, just like it is the personal choice of those who decide to date out of their race. While I am against inter-racial dating, I am not a hypocrite with it. For one I have never dated outside of my race. I don't condem black women from dating white men, then encourage black men to sex up white girls. If my daughter brought home a white man I would say, "Hell No"!. If my son brought home a white girl, I would say: "Hell Naw"! There is no inconsistency in my message (whether or not you agree with my message).
People get into trouble when they are inconsistent with their messages. This is particularly true when you are dealing with teenagers. I work with teenagers, and can tell you this for a fact.

1hotvirgowoman I think you need to ask yourself why you have issues with black men dating non-black women, when you support black women doing the same. This contradiction might cause sever conflict in your life at some point. Your decision to "protect" your son in this situation wouldn't be for his benefit, it is to support your personal prejudice...it is selfish! It is also small minded to question the motives of all white women or demean them (call them drama queens), and not suspect white men of the same. Indeed in anoother thread you told me that you think all white women want black men for is sex. Well I can assure you that not only is that not true, but all many white men are interested in black women for is sex (but also not in every case). You need to stop stereotyping, and accept reality.

Black women don't have a license to live however they wish, and criticize black men for doing the same. That mentality is currently causing a lot of problems within our community, and if you aren't careful it will cause problems in your home (if not with your son, then with your husband)! Live the lifestyle you want your children to live. Be an example they want to follow.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 06:35 PM
There is no difference in the dynamics which make up white male-black female relationships and black male-white female relationships. If one is good, then both are good. If one is bad, then both are bad! It can not logically be argued that one is positive and the other is negative. As a result if you are for inter-racial relationships, you have to support them all.

I am not in support of inter-racial relationships. This is my personal choice, just like it is the personal choice of those who decide to date out of their race. While I am against inter-racial dating, I am not a hypocrite with it. For one I have never dated outside of my race. I don't condem black women from dating white men, then encourage black men to sex up white girls. If my daughter brought home a white man I would say, "Hell No"!. If my son brought home a white girl, I would say: "Hell Naw"! There is no inconsistency in my message (whether or not you agree with my message).
People get into trouble when they are inconsistent with their messages. This is particularly true when you are dealing with teenagers. I work with teenagers, and can tell you this for a fact.

1hotvirgowoman I think you need to ask yourself why you have issues with black men dating non-black women, when you support black women doing the same. This contradiction might cause sever conflict in your life at some point. Your decision to "protect" your son in this situation wouldn't be for his benefit, it is to support your personal prejudice...it is selfish! It is also small minded to question the motives of all white women or demean them (call them drama queens), and not suspect white men of the same. Indeed in anoother thread you told me that you think all white women want black men for is sex. Well I can assure you that not only is that not true, but all many white men are interested in black women for is sex (but also not in every case). You need to stop stereotyping, and accept reality.

Black women don't have a license to live however they wish, and criticize black men for doing the same. That mentality is currently causing a lot of problems within our community, and if you aren't careful it will cause problems in your home (if not with your son, then with your husband)! Live the lifestyle you want your children to live. Be an example they want to follow.


If you call yourself "summing alll this up" then you were wrong in some instances. I didn't say that I had a "Problem" with Black Men dating White Women, I said that I felt a little stirring in my feelings with my Brother. I just felt a little strange- But I never said that it was a "Problem". I just wanted Better for him...

I also didnot say that White Woman were full of Drama, I DID however say that most think that they are tha' s***- and I stick By that.Not everyone is the same tho' so No, I don't believe in stereotyping.


Hark!! What is this? Pan' YOU are actually taking UP for White Women? I can honestly say that I am SURPRISED, MR. PROBLACK ALLDAY EVERYDAY huhn? figures.......see, you ARE a HYPROCRITE! You Bugged me in the Post Aparthied Thread for supposedly "takin' up for white folks" and yet you question me AND come to the defense of the White Race ?Astounding......

Look OUT-Double Standards Coming Thru!!

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 06:44 PM
There is no difference in the dynamics which make up white male-black female relationships and black male-white female relationships. If one is good, then both are good. If one is bad, then both are bad! It can not logically be argued that one is positive and the other is negative. As a result if you are for inter-racial relationships, you have to support them all.

I am not in support of inter-racial relationships. This is my personal choice, just like it is the personal choice of those who decide to date out of their race. While I am against inter-racial dating, I am not a hypocrite with it. For one I have never dated outside of my race. I don't condem black women from dating white men, then encourage black men to sex up white girls. If my daughter brought home a white man I would say, "Hell No"!. If my son brought home a white girl, I would say: "Hell Naw"! There is no inconsistency in my message (whether or not you agree with my message).
People get into trouble when they are inconsistent with their messages. This is particularly true when you are dealing with teenagers. I work with teenagers, and can tell you this for a fact.

1hotvirgowoman I think you need to ask yourself why you have issues with black men dating non-black women, when you support black women doing the same. This contradiction might cause sever conflict in your life at some point. Your decision to "protect" your son in this situation wouldn't be for his benefit, it is to support your personal prejudice...it is selfish! It is also small minded to question the motives of all white women or demean them (call them drama queens), and not suspect white men of the same. Indeed in anoother thread you told me that you think all white women want black men for is sex. Well I can assure you that not only is that not true, but all many white men are interested in black women for is sex (but also not in every case). You need to stop stereotyping, and accept reality.

Black women don't have a license to live however they wish, and criticize black men for doing the same. That mentality is currently causing a lot of problems within our community, and if you aren't careful it will cause problems in your home (if not with your son, then with your husband)! Live the lifestyle you want your children to live. Be an example they want to follow.


And another thing, where in my post did I say that I encourage Black Men/Women to sex up ANY Race?. Why do you always insist on taking what I said out of context?. I explained how I felt with Yaphet, did you not read that before you posted how YOU felt on the situation?

panafrica
12-06-2004, 06:54 PM
Dear sister 1HotVirgoWoman:

I think you need to re-read my post very carefully. There is no double standard, I am not defending white people, and I never said you endorsed sexing up other races.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 06:56 PM
Dear sister 1HotVirgoWoman:

I think you need to re-read my post very carefully. There is no double standard, I am not defending white people, and I never said you endorsed sexing up other races.



And Pan' maybe you need to take a gander at my posting as well for I never said that I had a Problem!.


Atleast I am able to Standby my Convictions whereas you can't!. You can only state thru History why you wouldn't date outside your Race or Let your children do so. I HAVE experienced what I have experienced, enough to know that this is something that I wouldn't want MY Brother and Daughter to do. I fI had a Son, I would advise him the same way that I would my Brother.I never said anything to my Brother because I had nothing to say-WHY?? 'cause I didn't have a Problem!.

panafrica
12-06-2004, 07:02 PM
See, I have a daughter right now. If she was to show up with a Non-black mate, I wouldn't be upset. I feel like this, as long as whoever it is that she dates treats her the way SHE wants to be treated- I'm cool with it!. Now, if I had a son,hmmm....I wouldn't want him to be with a White chick- they ARE too much trouble, seriously.

hmmm.....I must have imagined this!

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 07:14 PM
hmmm.....I must have imagined this!


DID I SAY THAT????? I got a lil' amnesia runnin' thru my skull, must be the weather..(fake coughing..).. My Bad for not explaining this further. I posted this wit half of my Brain (no joke) maybe it was the left side or maybe the right- either way it looks terrible!.
If I had a son, I know for a fact that I would be terribly overprotective of him, don't ask me why, I love my daughter too and will protect her tooth and nail. I believe that I would have a Problem with ANY Woman that decided to date my Son!. As you know, I have a Daughter, if the Man that she chose was trifling he is just that- Trifling!. If my future Son shows up with a Woman that's trifling then she is just that- Trifling!.

1hotvirgowoman
12-06-2004, 07:22 PM
Pan' it's clear to me now that I have been very Hypocritical. I already admitted to that. I'm about to getoff from work right now but I will resume our convo tommorrow, when I will have clear head and clear thinking. Good Night!

AfriKing
12-06-2004, 08:35 PM
Isn't it hypocritical to support black women dating white men, but discouraging black men from doing the same? A lot of black women who support inter-racial dating do this. Whatever reason behind this thinking (white women are trouble, drama filled, etc), there is no real logic behind it. 1hotvirgowoman I am not trying to constantly call you out, but I want you to see the contradictions in what you endorse.

That sounds like a blatant double standard to me.

MizLindaLinda
12-06-2004, 10:13 PM
LOLOL Reading these posts, time it was all over, I learned how to back peddle. Thanks virgowoman!!!!!!! :)

yaphet al-wynn
12-06-2004, 11:09 PM
Personally, if any of my kin folks did interracially date-first I say the same thing to both them and their mates to BOTH of their faces. I'd treat their mates right-but I ain't walking on eggshells with them either on what I say.What I say on this board I definitely WILL say to them and wish 'em both luck.I'm like pan and most men-I am against it period! whether a Black man or woman does it. They have the freedom to choose who they want, I'm not gonna harm them for their choices but don't expect me to condone it either.Personally, I can say that. If they bring home latinos(dark or brown),Blacks in the diaspora(Carribbeans, Europeans, Africans or whatever), Asians(brown or dark) or anybody but white-I'm cool with that interracial dating..

yaphet al-wynn
12-07-2004, 10:35 AM
What is worse is Black women married to white men telling their sons(the white man's child as hers) not to date white women. What a dichotomy-she rejected Black men as a possible partner telling the son of her husband to reject a mate that is a part of HIM!!!!

indya
12-07-2004, 11:43 AM
What is worse is Black women married to white men telling their sons(the white man's child as hers) not to date white women. What a dichotomy-she rejected Black men as a possible partner telling the son of her husband to reject a mate that is a part of HIM!!!!

Do you know someone who has done this, or are you just stating this as an example?

It would be wrong to tell someone who is mixed race black/white that they shouldn't date white. After all the person is half white.

1hotvirgowoman
12-07-2004, 12:36 PM
LOLOL Reading these posts, time it was all over, I learned how to back peddle. Thanks virgowoman!!!!!!! :)



Gyyrl, you ARE Welcome- atleast someone learned Something!

1hotvirgowoman
12-07-2004, 12:38 PM
What is worse is Black women married to white men telling their sons(the white man's child as hers) not to date white women. What a dichotomy-she rejected Black men as a possible partner telling the son of her husband to reject a mate that is a part of HIM!!!!


Yeah, that IS kinda wrong huhn? dumdee dumdee lada ladada........

yaphet al-wynn
12-07-2004, 01:00 PM
I WAS on an interracial board and some Black women married to white men DID indeed express this.

panafrica
12-07-2004, 01:02 PM
Feel free to copy my post and send it to them Yaphet Al-Wynn (with the necessary modifications of course).

triniti424
12-07-2004, 03:25 PM
To address the Question posted by our ever so motivated sista
AfroBoricuaRoni :)
“Would you tell your kid that White woman are trouble?”

My dearest young sister…In my own humble opinion…No, If I had a child or children I would NOT tell them that white “women” are “trouble”. I would tell them that white people are not OUR people. If we lived in a world where all was truly “black or white”, “good or evil” I could be so brazenly blunt with my seed and say…”This is how it is and how it always has been” and know that they would understand. But…that is not the case we live in deceitful times, and much like many of us have learned there are white counterparts out there who are not blatantly “trouble”. Things are not always what they seem. Perceptions are easily gone askew, and this western society is not of us.

I can only share my own experience with MY OWN mother warrior Queen. Everything from birth was vital to her shaping my understanding of my people. In the womb I was read writings for us by us, as a toddler my most used picture book “Now Sheba Sings the Song” beautiful art sketches of strong blak brethren that I came to know as…me…all a part of me. :read: Every little question I asked was answered with a reply overflowing with blak pride and laced with hopes for my tomorrow. I asked why the sky was blue :look: momma tole me because the tears of our ancestors filled the sky *smiles* and I believed her lol. I asked why they cried and she would tell me the tales and the players in the past and who they are in the present and who they will attempt to become in the future. Momma raised me to believe, the acknowledgement of my ancestry, was a life or death matter. She never OUTRIGHT told me so…but everything was shaped in my world so that I came to know it as so. A present life without a past ensures not much of future. So when I became of the age where “boys” came into the picture or rather they attempted to lol. “white men” never became an issue. I had developed such love and understanding for my own that entertaining the idea of being with anyone but my blak brothas, was never an option. As I am now caring for momma she tells me she knew she had to work twice as hard to build me up because white society would revolve around tearing me down.

Recently, one of my nieces was hounded by a few classmates for saying that she didn’t want a white boyfriend. They made her to feel horrible for saying it. She is just barely 12 and as I plaited up her lil head we sat there and looked at her reflection, I pulled out our family album. As we laughed and turned the pages I smiled and I reassured her she is so beautiful it was no wonder even white boys were attempting to gain her favor. I asked her why SHE said she didn’t want a white boyfriend. She told me in her quiet voice, “I cant explain it Enca it just…I don’t know…they don’t make me FEEL the way that boys like me make me feel.” I wrapped my legs roun her skinny lil body, smiled, and told her that while in the past we may have been taught to bear shame for our beauty and our desires to uphold our own peoples unity…SHE did not have to have that burden but she did have to understand it…but that was something she needed to find out ON HER OWN. And I told my young niece, “Blak is beautiful in ways that words can never truly do justice…that was why we were made…that is why YOU were made… only the EXISTENSE of our people could justify the beauty that is US…never feel ashamed or guilty because you want to preserve that beauty… or because you feel bonded by ancestral blood to KEEP that bond…just be baby gurl…just be…blak beautifully… blak just as you are and follow your heart.”

I share all this to say that… I do understand your brother’s confusion regarding the “mary kate & Ashley” situation lol and I can not say that I would tell him that white folks are trouble per se…but he would know how I felt about it…and why I felt so inclined against it but only after I was sure he knew about HIM first. I honestly believe that if a parent desires for their child to know the truths about white counterparts, so as to make wise decisions in the future, they must start early you can only love, teach, share and tell all within your disposal to make it absolutely clear ones stand concerning interracial relationships. After all is said and done everyone is free to make their own decisions…

So I guess to close my own longwinded rantings lol…would I advise my seed against white folks…if I thought that were enough…yes…but it is not…I would not advise them against white women/men…I would build their lives around the REAL so they can always identify the COUNTERFEIT, very much as my own mother did for me. But of course sister that is this sistas lil 2 cents :) I wish nothing but happiness for your brother my sister :) But ummmm I hope he finds it with a sista hehehe :D

Peace and blessings to you my sista :)

1hotvirgowoman
12-07-2004, 05:42 PM
To address the Question posted by our ever so motivated sista
AfroBoricuaRoni :)
“Would you tell your kid that White woman are trouble?”

My dearest young sister…In my own humble opinion…No, If I had a child or children I would NOT tell them that white “women” are “trouble”. I would tell them that white people are not OUR people. If we lived in a world where all was truly “black or white”, “good or evil” I could be so brazenly blunt with my seed and say…”This is how it is and how it always has been” and know that they would understand. But…that is not the case we live in deceitful times, and much like many of us have learned there are white counterparts out there who are not blatantly “trouble”. Things are not always what they seem. Perceptions are easily gone askew, and this western society is not of us.

I can only share my own experience with MY OWN mother warrior Queen. Everything from birth was vital to her shaping my understanding of my people. In the womb I was read writings for us by us, as a toddler my most used picture book “Now Sheba Sings the Song” beautiful art sketches of strong blak brethren that I came to know as…me…all a part of me. :read: Every little question I asked was answered with a reply overflowing with blak pride and laced with hopes for my tomorrow. I asked why the sky was blue :look: momma tole me because the tears of our ancestors filled the sky *smiles* and I believed her lol. I asked why they cried and she would tell me the tales and the players in the past and who they are in the present and who they will attempt to become in the future. Momma raised me to believe, the acknowledgement of my ancestry, was a life or death matter. She never OUTRIGHT told me so…but everything was shaped in my world so that I came to know it as so. A present life without a past ensures not much of future. So when I became of the age where “boys” came into the picture or rather they attempted to lol. “white men” never became an issue. I had developed such love and understanding for my own that entertaining the idea of being with anyone but my blak brothas, was never an option. As I am now caring for momma she tells me she knew she had to work twice as hard to build me up because white society would revolve around tearing me down.

Recently, one of my nieces was hounded by a few classmates for saying that she didn’t want a white boyfriend. They made her to feel horrible for saying it. She is just barely 12 and as I plaited up her lil head we sat there and looked at her reflection, I pulled out our family album. As we laughed and turned the pages I smiled and I reassured her she is so beautiful it was no wonder even white boys were attempting to gain her favor. I asked her why SHE said she didn’t want a white boyfriend. She told me in her quiet voice, “I cant explain it Enca it just…I don’t know…they don’t make me FEEL the way that boys like me make me feel.” I wrapped my legs roun her skinny lil body, smiled, and told her that while in the past we may have been taught to bear shame for our beauty and our desires to uphold our own peoples unity…SHE did not have to have that burden but she did have to understand it…but that was something she needed to find out ON HER OWN. And I told my young niece, “Blak is beautiful in ways that words can never truly do justice…that was why we were made…that is why YOU were made… only the EXISTENSE of our people could justify the beauty that is US…never feel ashamed or guilty because you want to preserve that beauty… or because you feel bonded by ancestral blood to KEEP that bond…just be baby gurl…just be…blak beautifully… blak just as you are and follow your heart.”

I share all this to say that… I do understand your brother’s confusion regarding the “mary kate & Ashley” situation lol and I can not say that I would tell him that white folks are trouble per se…but he would know how I felt about it…and why I felt so inclined against it but only after I was sure he knew about HIM first. I honestly believe that if a parent desires for their child to know the truths about white counterparts, so as to make wise decisions in the future, they must start early you can only love, teach, share and tell all within your disposal to make it absolutely clear ones stand concerning interracial relationships. After all is said and done everyone is free to make their own decisions…

So I guess to close my own longwinded rantings lol…would I advise my seed against white folks…if I thought that were enough…yes…but it is not…I would not advise them against white women/men…I would build their lives around the REAL so they can always identify the COUNTERFEIT, very much as my own mother did for me. But of course sister that is this sistas lil 2 cents :) I wish nothing but happiness for your brother my sister :) But ummmm I hope he finds it with a sista hehehe :D

Peace and blessings to you my sista :)



That was such a sweet story.... I wish that it had been broke down to me like that when I was a young 'Lass. Unfortunately it wasn't and now I see the error of my ways.... You live and you learn, and now, I am STILL in my learning phase............

Uhhhh,Can you be My Auntie Trin?

triniti424
12-07-2004, 09:23 PM
That was such a sweet story.... I wish that it had been broke down to me like that when I was a young 'Lass. Unfortunately it wasn't and now I see the error of my ways.... You live and you learn, and now, I am STILL in my learning phase............

Uhhhh,Can you be My Auntie Trin?

lol sho nuff sister lol jes dont be surprised when I reach ova
and pop you on the forehead for you starin in the wrong direction
at dem otha mens QQ hehehe :grouphug:

yaphet al-wynn
12-07-2004, 09:31 PM
Now I knew there WAS something that I LIKED about you triniti.Carry on, teach.

panafrica
12-08-2004, 02:49 AM
The sister is deep, no doubt...just has to show her pic in the family album below!

triniti424
12-08-2004, 09:17 AM
Thank you brotha yaphet-al wyn

and pan we arent still on that are we lol

smh there is a sufficient picture there so hush :read:

1hotvirgowoman
12-08-2004, 12:12 PM
lol sho nuff sister lol jes dont be surprised when I reach ova
and pop you on the forehead for you starin in the wrong direction
at dem otha mens QQ hehehe :grouphug:


:haha: :haha: :haha:

:skillet: Kinda like this?


Trini' you are soo sweet!!!! and since You are Totin' some of dat' good stuff, why don't you sprinkle some of dat' on these other folks too- 'cause they needs it!

Mucho Love to Ya' Auntie! :hearts2:

triniti424
12-08-2004, 01:04 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

:skillet: Kinda like this?


Trini' you are soo sweet!!!! and since You are Totin' some of dat' good stuff, why don't you sprinkle some of dat' on these other folks too- 'cause they needs it!

Mucho Love to Ya' Auntie! :hearts2:

LOL welll mijita I was thinking more along the lines of :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

and of course if that dont work... :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:

than add a dash of :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam:

but mercy you iz a grown one so i might jes have to get you :drink: :drink: :drink:...

Right before...I :playball: :playball: :playball: :playball:

hopefully after all dat mija you will be saying :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :great:

:lol: :laugh: :rolling: :laugh: :lol: smh gurl you so silly lolol but if all else fails I think the whole get ya tipsy thang will work most definitely lol

all out of love of course :heart: :grouphug: :heart: lol

1hotvirgowoman
12-08-2004, 01:37 PM
LOL welll mijita I was thinking more along the lines of :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

and of course if that dont work... :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:

than add a dash of :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam: :bam:

but mercy you iz a grown one so i might jes have to get you :drink: :drink: :drink:...

Right before...I :playball: :playball: :playball: :playball:

hopefully after all dat mija you will be saying :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :great:

:lol: :laugh: :rolling: :laugh: :lol: smh gurl you so silly lolol but if all else fails I think the whole get ya tipsy thang will work most definitely lol

all out of love of course :heart: :grouphug: :heart: lol



(in my best Latin accent)No-No- Tia, YOU are muy comica indeed!.


Personally, I'll take a couple of these :wine: over a Beating any D*** day!!!
But if you must resort to :whip: make you sure you get a mighty big Switch 'cause I gots me a Brick wall in tha' back - Ya' follow me?.

Jackie Gleason stlye: Trini, you're tha' Greatest!!!!!(that's home-dude from the Honeymooners)

triniti424
12-08-2004, 01:54 PM
(in my best Latin accent)No-No- Tia, YOU are muy comica indeed!.


Personally, I'll take a couple of these :wine: over a Beating any D*** day!!!
But if you must resort to :whip: make you sure you get a mighty big Switch 'cause I gots me a Brick wall in tha' back - Ya' follow me?.

Jackie Gleason stlye: Trini, you're tha' Greatest!!!!!(that's home-dude from the Honeymooners)

LOL smh no you did not say "home-dude"

and if ya my niece ya sho nuff do gotta a big ol badookadunk :lol:

*standin up screamin* THAS MY NIECE! :laugh: gurl we done got SO off subject in here smh LOL

anywho... :read:

1hotvirgowoman
12-08-2004, 02:24 PM
LOL smh no you did not say "home-dude"

and if ya my niece ya sho nuff do gotta a big ol badookadunk :lol:

*standin up screamin* THAS MY NIECE! :laugh: gurl we done got SO off subject in here smh LOL

anywho... :read:
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Trin'-is that you gyrl? Here I come, OOO- there go tha' Bus:wchair: !!!!
This ain't easy now...... :bus: "ALL Aboard The SPECIAL BUS"............ : :run: C'mon Gyrl, you almost there :run: :bus: Ya' made it- SUCCESS!

:hearthis: You are crazy!!!!!! You be havin' me rollin'!(kinda like now).I know that we are off the subject but still, it's fun as h*** ain't it?. Im stuck here :nightowl: , so I needed the laugh. Thank ya' kindly........

Suga' Suga how'd you get soo Fly?

Zoraida
12-14-2004, 07:11 PM
I have some kids who are in their late 20s. The oldest married a Puerto Rican man. My next oldest married a Jamaican man. The third oldest is dating an Italian girl and the fourth one is with an African-American girl. The other one is still to young for dating, but i don't think I ever thought twice about the issue as long as they are all happy. Knowing their roots and where they come from is the basis of removing that veil of ignorance that could overtake them. I love my children and will stand by them as long as I live. I raised them with a strong sense of security within themselves and always raised them to be open-minded and true to others. I am blessed to have kids that still look to me for support and don't see me as an evil mom who only wants them to think one way, my way. They get cultural schooling from me and my husband, so they know what they are and have taken pride in all aspects of their lives. This past Thanksgiving my house felt like the United Nations. It was fun though. The music went from Salsa to Reggae to Hip Hop to Ballads. We had a wonderful time with all their families. We have a pretty big house. There were over 80 people here. Good thing there was more than one turkey and lots of food to go around!

panafrica
12-18-2004, 05:23 PM
This past Thanksgiving my house felt like the United Nations. It was fun though. The music went from Salsa to Reggae to Hip Hop to Ballads.

I'd like my house to feel like Africa!

Keita Kenyatta
02-08-2005, 08:58 PM
[Once my daughter's grown, and should she decide to make such a decision as to hook up with a white man....from that point on, that's her family, cause she, him or any of their children will not cross my steps or call my phone unless it's in the next life somewhere. There are always certain lines in relationships, society, business or life in general that should never be crossed. Once they are crossed it's a whole different game with unpredictable outcomes to it. But this isn't one she will have to predict. This one she will know from the door !!

Prizefighter16
02-08-2005, 10:39 PM
I think love does not have a color.

I will have to agree.

Prizefighter16
02-08-2005, 10:41 PM
[Once my daughter's grown, and should she decide to make such a decision as to hook up with a white man....from that point on, that's her family, cause she, him or any of their children will not cross my steps or call my phone unless it's in the next life somewhere. There are always certain lines in relationships, society, business or life in general that should never be crossed. Once they are crossed it's a whole different game with unpredictable outcomes to it. But this isn't one she will have to predict. This one she will know from the door !!


I hope I don't sound disrespectful brotha, but isn't that harsh?

Keita Kenyatta
02-08-2005, 11:12 PM
I can't say if it is or not. One of my brothewrs hooked up with a white woman and had some kids. That was over 20 years ago...and I told him right then and there with his baby and his woman next to him the same thing...and I meant it. And if he came to my door right today, I would simply ask him "Are you still with that white woman?" If he says yes, then he may as well go on back with her because he still would not be welcome in my house.

Keita Kenyatta
02-09-2005, 12:48 AM
The wise know that the white woman is nothing more than the white man in drag. Furthermore, she's the original devil...for every thought process and attitude that the white man has towards people of color was taught to him by the white woman...his first teacher!

Ireadastory
02-09-2005, 09:12 AM
I do not have a son but I have a daughter. I would definitely not teach her to not bring a white man home. I am for her bringing any race home as long as they will love and provide for her and treat her like a lady not because she is black but because she is a young lady. I feel as though as long as we are (her dad and I) are giving her the spiritual understanding of Christ now, that she will become a strong mature young lady fully capable of making and accepting the decisions and oftens times consequences for her decisions. Yes, we want to protect our children but we also have to let them grow and make there own choices whether we approve or not. To be honest I would have a problem if her mate wasn't Christian more than what color he is, but again it is still her choice.

karmashines
04-08-2005, 04:10 PM
Isn't it hypocritical to support black women dating white men, but discouraging black men from doing the same? A lot of black women who support inter-racial dating do this. Whatever reason behind this thinking (white women are trouble, drama filled, etc), there is no real logic behind it. 1hotvirgowoman I am not trying to constantly call you out, but I want you to see the contradictions in what you endorse.

lol, I don't. I do think though that culturally my son would have a lot more in common with someone who was one or both of his ethnicities, or was another biracial mixed with black.

Nisa
04-08-2005, 04:36 PM
When I have my children..I will always tell them never to bring the opressor into the home..love does have a color in my home/family..and its black. My mom has a coworker and her son married a white woman..and she regrets not having the "talk" about not bringing a white woman home..my mom gives her sons the "talk" all the time..and they know better. The person who I'm with his mother told him the same thing. Black men have been lynched physically..psychologically and financially (Like O.J.)..people have a problem with thinking..that this is not the past...The same thing is going on..its just not as in your face as it used to be...and people can be so blind to it..but when a white person offends you..you are going to be like that whitey..but then you dont mind interracial dating..i mean lets get real here...Marry your kings women..and men marry your queens...man yall done got me wound up in here

Ledda
04-08-2005, 06:18 PM
When I have my children..I will always tell them never to bring the opressor into the home..love does have a color in my home/family..and its black. My mom has a coworker and her son married a white woman..and she regrets not having the "talk" about not bringing a white woman home..my mom gives her sons the "talk" all the time..and they know better. The person who I'm with his mother told him the same thing. Black men have been lynched physically..psychologically and financially (Like O.J.)..people have a problem with thinking..that this is not the past...The same thing is going on..its just not as in your face as it used to be...and people can be so blind to it..but when a white person offends you..you are going to be like that whitey..but then you dont mind interracial dating..i mean lets get real here...Marry your kings women..and men marry your queens...man yall done got me wound up in here

I agree with you wholeheartedly!!!!!

karmashines
04-09-2005, 01:25 AM
So for those who do plan on having the don't date whitey talk with their kids, what would you do if they did bring a white person home? You can control who they date when they're under your roof, but you can't do anything when they're out on their own. And like Kente said in similar thread, if you constantly lash out at their mate and/or their relationship, your kids very well might resent you, causing strained, in some cases irreparable relations. What about the grandkids that could result? Are they going to be rejected because the mom or dad is white?

yaphet al-wynn
04-09-2005, 09:45 AM
Karmashines, children ALWAYS got rejected when the parent WAS Black, does Strom Thurmond's daughter ring a bell? Do not lecture Black people on how Black people should feel-most of what Black people feel is reactive NOT active. White people, in this country, have ALWAYS actively done what they done WITH no apologies whatsoever!!!!!!

karmashines
04-09-2005, 10:10 AM
I am not lecturing or forcing my views on anyone. I'm simply stating my opinion; if you don't like it, oh well.

And by the fact that I am black, grown up around blacks, etc. I feel qualified enough to give my opinion on black matters. Not every black person you encounter on Destee is going to share your same viewpoint on things like this.

And the question still hasn't been answered: if the child does go white after all the lecturing, rules, or whatever, what do you do then? Yes, there are gazillions of cases of whites and other non-blacks disowing their kids because of this, and that is just as wrong as if a black person does it. Just because white culture has accepted it doesn't mean blacks need to adopt that same attitude.

And while I understand blacks reasoning against mixing with whites is more pure than whites (who don't want to mix with blacks because they think they're racially superior), it still doesn't change the devestating effects of either disownership or severely strained relations with your kids because their mate isn't what you wish for them to be.

Lastly, I am not advocating for people to say, "Oh, go get a white man/woman." I am not even saying anything against the don't get yt lecture. I am saying though that kids will do their own thing regardless, and that could very well mean dating/marrying a white person. And unless the parent wants to totally disown their kid, and/or have strained relations with them, at some point they're going to have to accept it. That is not lecturing, or making apologies or whatever... it's stating the facts.

Nisa
04-09-2005, 10:46 AM
Boy im appaled at some of these replies..no you cant control it once they are gone..but you can make an INFLUENCE..even they go against it..at least you did all you could do...my goodness..And yes you are saying go get a white woman/man if you don't tell them. My goodness ...open your eyes..it's a dangon shame..don't complain about whitey no more then if you dont have a problem with black/white relationships. In my big fat honest opinion

karmashines
04-09-2005, 11:20 AM
I guess it's best to agree to disagree.

I will say though that just because someone supports IR or God forbid is in one themselves doesn't mean they condone racism committed by white culture against blacks, and they do have a right to complain, along with being permitted to find ways to help solve the problem.

Destee
04-09-2005, 12:32 PM
And the question still hasn't been answered: if the child does go white after all the lecturing, rules, or whatever, what do you do then?

Love my baby like i always have, and always will.

:heart:

Destee

yaphet al-wynn
04-09-2005, 12:35 PM
Karmashines, your questions was answered by individuals in a few posts(I do not necessarily agree with them or not) that they either have or will disown loved ones. If I misunderstood you, I apologize. It just get my goat, after hearing it for a long time...get over slavery, it's in the past from white and Black folks-or some other forms of forget it in that vein. It's a different day, his or her ancestors never owned slaves(never wanting to hear that they profited from or benefitted from it). Or put in your favorite stock quotes that you get tired of hearing. Oh yeah-the world's famous..'love has no color'' until what the naysayers said to you happen to come true... that you are still Black. I am speaking of Black/white relationships now.

karmashines
04-09-2005, 12:41 PM
Karmashines, your questions was answered by individuals in a few posts(I do not necessarily agree with them or not) that they either have or will disown loved ones. If I misunderstood you, I apologize. It just get my goat, after hearing it for a long time...get over slavery, it's in the past from white and Black folks-or some other forms of forget it in that vein. It's a different day, his or her ancestors never owned slaves(never wanting to hear that they profited from or benefitted from it). Or put in your favorite stock quotes that you get tired of hearing. Oh yeah-the world's famous..'love has no color'' until what the naysayers said to you happen to come true... that you are still Black. I am speaking of Black/white relationships now.

I understand. These same things bother me as well. And yes, you are still viewed as black, even if you are in an IR.

I guess I'd better take another look at some of the responses. :)

KWABENA
04-11-2005, 10:28 PM
Let me say this, and I don't mind WHAT anyone says or thinks about this.

Your best friend can be your worst enemy. White folks and families have more money and power than black folks and families. If a white boy became a friends with a black boy, overtime white boy would get to know his strengths and weaknesses, and the families' strengths and weaknesses (white families do a good job of raising their children to understand this.) The same thing goes for the young black man. Now being that the white boy and black young man know each other well, and get to know eachother's strengths and weaknesses, who is going to be hurt the most when one ends the friendship? As black people, we do not bring our families together well enough to understand that our neighbors will be there when we need them to. I learn from History, and I have learned that when a black man is being accused of something, his white friends will not be there to help him in the same way that his family would be. If a black child os accused of acting up in school, their white buddies do not stand up for them. As you grow up with that type of attitude, Do you think it benefits?

I am not trying to imply that nobody should hang out with white folks; I am only trying to imply that we all should be CAREFUL of who is around us. Because if you would like to know why I said whites have more money and power than blacks, that goes on to show just how easy it would be for the white boy and white family to learn the black family's strengths and weaknesses, and use it against them. Isn't that what most white folks do? You bring a white boy or girl into my house...Fine. First, I will make sure I know the parents. But then when it comes to my child going to a white person's house (if I had one,) My child would barely make it up the stairs, or would only get to sit on the porch, or they would not feed them. Then when it comes to church or shopping, they are ashsamed to take a black child with his white friend and their white family. In this case, it is more than likely that whites would do the same thing that blacks would do, so do not single white out like they are innocent, and ALWAYS welcome a black child into their household with a happy face. Neither of us are innocent or guilty, so please do not make it seem like we are wrong for telling our children to stay away from whites, because whites do the same thing with their children. Have you ever thought about the fact that white children get sick and tired of their parents telling them to stay away from blacks, to the point where the child does what THEY want to do - hand out with the black child?

Watch the white boy in the movie "Rosewood" again. See how he reacts to how his white uncle treats him.

CD

omowalejabali
12-11-2005, 09:58 AM
My mother, I'm sure her heart was in the right place, recently went through the motions about my little brother dating White girls and told him don't mess with them. She brought up Kobe and O.J. on several occasions and while it was funny to everybody else around I sat there noticing how my little brother wasn't having as much fun as we were.

All this happened because she pick up the other line while he was on the phone with this girl and to my mother she "sounded White". There was another time when this girl was calling here and I'll admit she sounded like a Mary Kate or an Ashley and when we asked him what she was he didn't say anything.

I'm just asking if it's the best thing to tell your son/daughter, that if you date White woman you'll end up in a Kobe situation. We know lawyers who deal with cases like these all of the time and while we don't want him to end up the same way, I still want him to share love wherever it is reciprocated and I want him to be happy, even if it is with a White woman. I'm wouldn't be all that happy but I'm not going to have an attitude about it either.

And it's like come on, he's a biracial child. How can he just date one and rule out all others as if that was the right way because if it was we wouldn't be here.

Would you tell your kid that White woman are trouble?

"And it's like come on, he's a biracial child."

I think this is the point some folks missed. If he is "biracial" most likely he will be open towards involving himself in an inter-racial relationship.

Tantrum
03-14-2006, 07:37 AM
interracial
Wow Brother Pan here are alot

LUV_puerto rica
04-20-2006, 01:08 PM
I Am married to a puerto rican now for 4 years we daughters and honestly i'd rather my daughters marry a hispanic i am black but i know that my chldren would be happier and not have to deal with the drama i would raise them to date hispanic men, i mean i think it would be better. im not racist it's what i have been used to for years since i was 14 i have only benn 1 black man my 1st time was with a hispanic they treat us better.

Blaklioness
04-20-2006, 01:24 PM
I Am married to a puerto rican now for 4 years we daughters and honestly i'd rather my daughters marry a hispanic i am black but i know that my chldren would be happier and not have to deal with the drama i would raise them to date hispanic men, i mean i think it would be better. im not racist it's what i have been used to for years since i was 14 i have only benn 1 black man my 1st time was with a hispanic they treat us better.


You know what the REAL crime is in this situation?.....Both you and your daughters will still be (mis)identified as "black"! smh.....

spicybrown
04-20-2006, 02:19 PM
I Am married to a puerto rican now for 4 years we daughters and honestly i'd rather my daughters marry a hispanic i am black but i know that my chldren would be happier and not have to deal with the drama i would raise them to date hispanic men, i mean i think it would be better. im not racist it's what i have been used to for years since i was 14 i have only benn 1 black man my 1st time was with a hispanic they treat us better.

Out of your FIVE posts thus far, why do you mention your Hispanic husband and mixed children everytime? It's good to see you appear happy, but not all Black Brothers are bad. You admitted to having dated 1 Black man........how would you know they're ALL bad? If Hispanic men float your boat, just say it, and keep it movin.......don't drag ALL Black men into it. After all, you are born either male or female.......so if you had been born male, you'd inevitably be trifiling? :jawdrop:

oldiesman
04-21-2006, 09:49 AM
My mother, I'm sure her heart was in the right place, recently went through the motions about my little brother dating White girls and told him don't mess with them. She brought up Kobe and O.J. on several occasions and while it was funny to everybody else around I sat there noticing how my little brother wasn't having as much fun as we were.

All this happened because she pick up the other line while he was on the phone with this girl and to my mother she "sounded White". There was another time when this girl was calling here and I'll admit she sounded like a Mary Kate or an Ashley and when we asked him what she was he didn't say anything.

I'm just asking if it's the best thing to tell your son/daughter, that if you date White woman you'll end up in a Kobe situation. We know lawyers who deal with cases like these all of the time and while we don't want him to end up the same way, I still want him to share love wherever it is reciprocated and I want him to be happy, even if it is with a White woman. I'm wouldn't be all that happy but I'm not going to have an attitude about it either.

And it's like come on, he's a biracial child. How can he just date one and rule out all others as if that was the right way because if it was we wouldn't be here.

Would you tell your kid that White woman are trouble?hell yes i would,but i wouldn't bar them from my house if they choose to date white.

panafrica
04-23-2006, 08:30 AM
Out of your FIVE posts thus far, why do you mention your Hispanic husband and mixed children everytime? It's good to see you appear happy, but not all Black Brothers are bad. You admitted to having dated 1 Black man........how would you know they're ALL bad? If Hispanic men float your boat, just say it, and keep it movin.......don't drag ALL Black men into it. After all, you are born either male or female.......so if you had been born male, you'd inevitably be trifiling? :jawdrop:

Spicy:

You asked me before what is Troll behavior, and did I have someone in mind. Well the person you are responding to is what I had in mind!

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