i live on 13th st in Philly which is the "strip" where folks who are "on the stroll" do their thang.
i know what a "ho" looks like, very well.

why do i turn on my TV and see Serena Williams out at the US open playing tennis in a ho outfit?
she looks like she is ready to turn a trick after the match!

what in the world is going on?

this is sad. :cuss:

You're the first man I've ever heard show displeasure in her outfits...

Most men praise her for her little skimpy skirts and tight short black shorts.

I never thought for a second thought that she looked like a ho...although she wears things I wouldn't wear (but I'm also a mother).

It'll be interesting to see what other people have to say about it.

I didn't find anything wrong with her clothing because her and Venus want to be Fashion designers, however my mother had a big issue with it she said she looks like a tramp and that is not how you are supposed to dress for tennis.


Aisha

I don't have a problem with her outfits!! :rolling: But I do object to her dating choices!

do any of you know what an actual working prostitute looks like?

maybe she gets away with it because people don't know where she gets her "fashion" ideas from.

if i'm the only male who has an objection to her low class ***, then we have a serious moral problem in the community.

what she did tonight was simply inappropriate and embarrassing.

i find the sistah outfit cool she don't look like a street hooker
but a sistah displaying what eyes like to see she looks good
i agree with pan on the style of dates she deal with !

Excuse me brother James...weren't you the same one who was accusing the family of being "puritans" in another thread? :lol:

Excuse me brother James...weren't you the same one who was accusing the family of being "puritans" in another thread? :lol:
yes, i am.
i am also the one who knows the difference between private behavior and public display.
i am in no way a prude nor a puritan but i do have class and decorum.
does that seem inconsistent to you?

i find the sistah outfit cool she don't look like a street hooker
do you know what a street hooker looks like?
have you seen them on the stroll?
did you see Serena tonight?

if you answer yes, will you kindly explain to me what the difference is?
and do you think a black lady should display herself at all times no matter what the situation?
do you want to see your sisters just walking around naked at all times?
should they be naked while every one else has clothes?

tell me what you are talking about.

Man leave that girl alone she ain't bothering nobody..especially not me..let her where whatever she want..I don't even understand tennis but will watch her play all day long......I wouldn't care if she didn't wear a thing when she played... :devil:

Mississippi Red
I am a fat nasty dog and too proud.

brutha i know a hooker any day or night blind
she can ware what she like i see nothing wrong with it

Excuse me but how are you going to call this sister out like this on here?
the sister is doing things in this world and she is a positive role model for younger sisters who want to get into the game! You show a total lack of respect and class in your manner and thinking. she is a fashion and sports diva and you being a Brother you should show her her respect. you don't have to like what she wears or does and that is your right but we need to show more support to her and the women like her that are doing positive things with their lives! I know what a street walker, Ho or whatever looks like and I have lived in Philly and you should know it 2, she never dressed like any of them.
respect brother.... give her that much! :cuss:

Man leave that girl alone she ain't bothering nobody....I don't even understand tennis ......I wouldn't care if she didn't wear a thing when she played... :devil:
she does bother me.
i do understand some tennis.
she and her family are a far cry from Aurthur Ashe.

so you believe that black women should wear no clothes?
do you have a daughter?

sorry, i don't give hos respect.

How are you going to call her a *** my brother you don't even know her like that? I guess you not man enough to give that respect u have the wrong mentality. There could be alot of other people you could be calling out 4 their actions and attire but I guess you are just a Hater and misguided inside. SMH :hammer:

Shaq O'neal is a far cry from Bill Russell....but both are still blazing trials. It is difficult to compare two different eras. The Williams sisters are fashion designers, as well as tennis players. As a result they are constantly trying new styles. Both women are intelligient, beautiful, and sexy! Outside of their dating choices, I don't think they do anything to disgrace the race. I certainly don't think the tolerance expressed by the members on this post is an example of a societal problem within our race. Indeed I view your saying that brother James as the "pot calling the kettle black", as many would view your opinion on fidelity within a relationship as an example of a societal problem within our race. Unless Serena starts posing new for Playboy, or startings tongue kissing other women, constantly bragging about her drug use, sex partners, and getting arrested for gun violations (like some of our beloved musicians, and actors)....I don't have a problem with her behavior.

How are you going to call her a *** my brother you don't even know her like that? I guess you not man enough to give that respect u have the wrong mentality. There could be alot of other people you could be calling out 4 their actions and attire but I guess you are just a Hater and misguided inside. SMH :hammer:
you wish to use hos, pimps, thugs and losers for role models and you think i'm a hater?
what would you put in front of our children?

do you think black women should show any decorum in any situation at all?
or is it all just buck wild naked for you?
this is not a hip hop video, this is the US open.

Shaq O'neal is a far cry from Bill Russell....but both are still blazing trials. It is difficult to compare two different eras. The Williams sisters are fashion designers, as well as tennis players. As a result they are constantly trying new styles. Both women are intelligent, beautiful, and sexy! Outside of their dating choices, I don't think they do anything to disgrace the race. I certainly don't think the tolerance expressed by the members on this post is an example of a societal problem within our race. Indeed I view your saying that brother James as the "pot calling the kettle black", as many would view your opinion on fidelity within a relationship as an example of a societal problem within our race. Unless Serena starts posing new for Playboy, or startings tongue kissing other women, constantly bragging about her drug use, sex partners, and getting arrested for gun violations (like some of our beloved musicians, and actors)....I don't have a problem with her behavior.
am i on display at the US open?
for you to post this means that you have never understood what i have said.
the statements i make are clean, clear and correct.
they are based on decades of study and a long life experience.
you would do well to listen rather than spend your energy trying to disprove.

BTW - you are not a fashion designer because you declare your self to be one.

design requires training, study and work.
and ability.

when's the last time you saw Serena at F.I.T.?

this the lady style and truely she hold much respect for self as well as others
she is a queen u need to see that and not worry about what she wear to her
battle in the games....she far from a hooker sound like u just can't stand the
sista for what and who she is GOD bless these sistas and all they do she is very
postive and respectful (STOP PEEPING UNDER HER SKIRT ) and watch the game !
she an adult and have rights to ware what she feel comfortable playing in as
she make a fashion statement which bring her big BUCK $$$$$$$ mo power to
a champion a sista a queen ! get wit today's fashion we out the royal 20's

BTW - you are not a fashion designer because you declare your self to be one.

design requires training, study and work.
and ability.

when's the last time you saw Serena at F.I.T.?


So tell me my brother who or what makes you a fashion designer? Should she wait on your approvial because you are blinded?

you wish to use hos, pimps, thugs and losers for role models and you think i'm a hater?
what would you put in front of our children?

do you think black women should show any decorum in any situation at all?
or is it all just buck wild naked for you?
this is not a hip hop video, this is the US open.


So who deems what to wear and what not to wear? :oops: Is it ok if the white girls do it 1st? I have never seen this sister naked at all not even close to it and yes I do let my daughter watch her play.The sister is a trendsetter and an amazing person, like my brother other than her choices of who she is dateing I can't hate on here. Why do only the sisters get called out for things? :idea: Oh my bad society has us programed to accept whatever white america deems to be right or wrong! :lol:

It's not the clothes that make the woman.....
but anyway.....

nuff said

Peace
Angel

LOL@ Mississippi...I personally do not have a say about what she wears, although my personal tastes are for more mystery, less flesh exposed....not like the Taliban women, but, I like to see women who are dressed nicely and fashinably but not necessarily with it all hanging out for the world to see...just my 2 cents..Aint nothing prettier than a woman who is dressed neatly and well, without exposing all her goodies to the wolves..LOL

so tell me people, is there any situation at all that requires decorum from the ladies?
is it the consensus of this community that the female may put her privates on display anytime, anywhere?
does this community have any standard at all?

i know what a "ho" looks like James
Because a Sista dresses very provocative doesn’t mean that she’s a prostitute. There isn’t a woman in the world who wouldn’t want to be considered sexy; although the way she dresses isn’t the only factor in determining if she is sexy or not.

sorry, i don't give hos respect.
Why did you make this statement, bruh? At this point, you are no longer discussing her dress…you are discussing her character. You are wrong. Don’t do that. Address her decision in clothing but not her character. As Python said, you don’t know her.

this is not a hip hop video, this is the US open. So, it’s ok if Sistas dress provocatively in music videos? Are you saying that it’s ok to dress this way because it’s something seen as Black…whereas Tennis is basically seen as White?

Btw, the dress attire of tennis has changed over the years like any other sport. Women used to wear skirts to their ankles…and now it’s short skirts that have overlapping parts (Sorry ladies...I don't know what in the heck those are called :lol: ). The same evolution in clothing happened with swimsuits for women as well.

this they are based on decades of study and a long life experience.. What study? And who conducted this study?

when's the last time you saw Serena at F.I.T.?
Actually, she or Venus did take some designing classes.

Btw, she’s working with people who are trained as designers. She gives them her ideas…and they design the clothing.

STOP PEEPING UNDER HER SKIRT ) and watch the game ! Can we peep every now and again…cuz a Sista is FIONE...just ask MississippiRed :lol:

I don't even understand tennis but will watch her play all day long MississippiRed

:D

although my personal tastes are for more mystery, less flesh exposed....not like the Taliban women! I feel you here, bruh. A sexy, classy woman turns my head when she’s dressed from head to toe…with all of the matching accessories...when what she’s wearing blends in with her skin complexion…when her hair is whipped…and she’s smelling mm mm good. :D

See James Greg thinks it was not all that great he got ya back..lol

I dont think showing all ya goodies is a good thing I just havent seen a problem with the sister. You are entittled to your opinion on this no matter what I feel or anyone other than me feels.

I just think you have attacked her on a personal level and not addressing the issue of fashion. For her to called a Ho is just wrong. :maddd:

For her to called a Ho is just wrong. :maddd:
i'm confused: for her to dress exactly like a ho is perfectly alright but for me to then call her what she resembles is a no no?

that is ill logical to me.

i don't need to know her personally, she is putting her assets on display for the entire world to see.
when you put it out there for the world don't you give up any limits on what people think about you? and what they call you?

again, i ask.

do you brothers think it's perfectly alright and correct for the young ladies to use the ho as their role model?
you call yourselves brothers and you think it's acceptable for the sisters to walk around dressed like hos?
is that what you will teach your children?

think about it, please.

James the thing is , you are making a character judgement based solely on appearance which is the same thing white folk do to us everday and you know as well as I do that you can't judge folk only on how they look, that is the problem I'm having with what you're saying..and as far as letting my daughter walk around dressed like a ho nah ain't happenin but Serena is a grown woman she can play in whatever she wants to play in it's not like shes out there in a thong, high heels, and bra. Another point is you imply that she uses hoes as role models,,,again you have no idea who her role models are based simply on what she wears during a tennis match..point is we know nothing about the majority of folk that we have opinions on...we come to conclusions about people usually based on how the appear to us but we have to be honest with ourselves and admit that in actuality we know absolutely nothing about said person except what they have on.. it's hard not to do that it's been done to me and I've done it to other folk but I know it ain't the right thing to do.....don't judge old girl and call her a *** and put her down because of what she wearing or not wearing....let her do her thing and appreciate the fact that we are priviledged to be able to watch a Black woman that is feared and respected in her game, when we're watching her we're looking at one of the most physically gifted tennis players of all times....appreciate the greatness that Serena is and don't trip on what she plays in ...

Mississippi Red
Don't throw away the gift because you don't like the gift wrap. :smokin:

I don't know why she dresses like that either. I mean, I'm not saying she is a ho by how she dresses, but she looks too manly to put that stuff on. She's not even hot. :( But, to each HIS own. :lol: She can play hella tennis though.

Whoa...I am in no way shape or form trying to cut down Serna and her choice of clothing...I for one hold nuttin but respect and love fore the lady, she has done far more for the game of tennis and our peoples than any Ho ever could achieve, and I certainly do not view her as a Ho by any stretch of the imagination. Me myself, I think the lady id sexy as all hell!~ Her clothing does not define her character at all. I may not agree with what she wears, but heck, I am sure she wouldn't agree with my choice in clothing sometimes too!...LOL..~peace~

You just mad because Serena aint letting you hit.

Stop Hating. The chick LOOK GOOD.

But Venus Look Better to me.

You just mad because Serena aint letting you hit.

Stop Hating. The chick LOOK GOOD.

But Venus Look Better to me.
actually, Serena does not look good to me, i would prefer Venus.
i just like my ladies with a touch of class.

I appreciate their tennis skills and what they've done for the game but....they are both visually offending.:crying: That's just my opinion though. They sure can hit a ball though.

Looks aren't everything though. :grin:

Kente I am rolling on the flo dog.....visually offending.....man you killing me... :devil:

They sure can hit a ball though. :grin:
um, how do you mean that? :shades:

Kente I am rolling on the flo dog.....visually offending.....man you killing me... :devil:

I didn't want to straight out say ugly. That wouldn't be right. :lol: After all, they might be nice people...just not nice to look at, IMO. They're faces make me dizzy.

James.....hey..they might be able to both ways.....you never know. :lol:

"Visually Offensive"....Thanks brother Kente....you just added a new phrase to the vocabulary!!

"Visually Offensive"....Thanks brother Kente....you just added a new phrase to the vocabulary!!

Cool, glad I can help brotha. :o Use it for good...not evil. :lol:

JAmes I am sorry for hating. We are best friends because we like Venus.

I was thinking about stalking her in palm beach, she stays like 5 hours away from me :-)

I was jus playnig.....

For those of you who missed the outfit... CLICK BELOW

OUTFIT (http://msn.foxsports.com/id/2860652_7_3.jpg)

and later without the boots

WITHOUT BOOTS (http://msn.foxsports.com/id/2860674_7_2.jpg)

I'm with Mississippi Red on this(LOL!) Just leave that ole amazon sista alone, brother James - she doin' just FINE!(lol!)

One of the issues I have with us, as African people in the United States, is we seem to be still a little uptight about African women "exposing" their voluptuous beauty to the world... Sisters are just BUILT differently - no pun intended... Serena falls on that side of about 75% of African American women, who are straight up on the thick side in all the right places(YES!) The African Woman's history in the United States makes us quite uncomfortable with "others" gawking at her, ogling her, undressing her visually... I can dig it, 'cause I feel uncomfortable with that, too... But I have had to ask myself, why, what was my issue with that, as African women on the continent even have a ritual of exposing their breasts to strangers as a greeting(Ndebele women do this, I believe)...

Why then should I be uncomfortable with Serena, or Halle Berry, or Sally Richardson doing their thing, and showing the world just how gorgeous African Women can be??? I don't know, I just still think we're still uncomfortable with it based on our history, the Black Women's history, in America... I can't knock that, though... I understand how folks feel about that...

Peace!
Isaiah

Preach Isaiah. I agree :spinn:

I was told today that Serena started dressing like this after her sister was murdered, mabey this is her tribute to her sister. We all also have to remember that we have to try new things. I'm pretty sure that when they showed the first woman on tv wearing pants or with a short skirt that people where saying the same things. Serena may opening up a new trend for tennis players. Dennis Rodman was one of the first Basketball players to have multiple tatoos on the court and now so many of the players have tatoos that I don't even notice them. Let's give these sistahs a break and be supportive for once.

Aisha

is it open season?

is there any venue that sisters (and brothers) should respect?
help me out here, is it truly anything goes? anywhere? anytime?

i get the feeling that is the consensus here and i must tell you i stand against that.
i sure ain't no prude at all but i do believe in decorum.
i may well be the only one left in the country who believes that ladies should cover that thing up, but i have to tell you, i think folks should give it some thought and swing to my side of this issue.

you'll feel a lot better in the morning :toast:

[QUOTE=jamesfrmphilly]is it open season?

For some...Yes,
Do allow me to explain what "open season" means to me...
it means when he/she laid with a variety of people (do that ring a bell?)

is there any venue that sisters (and brothers) should respect?
help me out here, is it truly anything goes? anywhere? anytime?

Once you leave your nest, to "rest" with another/s, then anything goes...or better yet, 'comes



i may well be the only one left in the country who believes that ladies should cover that thing up,

I might be kinda slow, :uhoh: so help me out...
when you say cover that thing up...what are you saying?
do that apply to all ladies? ... and if so, then what do the women that has more than one partener called? or, are they the exceptions to the rule? cause surely they can't "give that thang up" and "cover that thang up" at the same time.
If you can call a women that only show legs a "***", then what do you call a woman that shows it all?
help me out here... :confused:

Thank you CarrieMonet for the link. I didn't see the outfit... Well, nothing is hanging out or anything. The outfit looks a little odd, but not "whorish" to me. Jamesfrmphilly, your opinion doesn't make you a prude, no more than my opinion makes me a prude in the thread regarding being faithful in a marriage.

I just saw the latest outfit, "Hide your shame Serena...Hide your SHAME"!

help me out here... :confused:
your confusion comes from not distinguishing between private behavior and public display.

your confusion comes from not distinguishing between private behavior and public display.

Confusion?? ...I'm far from confused, I was being funny...but I'm not confused.
Your "private behavior" became ..."public display" the moment you put it in the forum.
do have a continued good day.

For those of you who missed the outfit... CLICK BELOW

OUTFIT (http://msn.foxsports.com/id/2860652_7_3.jpg)

and later without the boots

WITHOUT BOOTS (http://msn.foxsports.com/id/2860674_7_2.jpg)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-833913,prtpage-1.cms

i don't think it's a good idea for our young people to use pimps and hos for role models in fashion or anything else.
i don't think it's a good idea for our young ladies to be putting their bodies on display in front of the world.
i don't think that's cool.

All Im saying brother is that nothing is hanging out from her outfit. It's a fashion statement and I think it's a nice one. Pimps and Ho's for role models? I dont believe this sister is a pimp or a ho in the terms you use. She is only pipming this tennis game to futher her career in the fashion world. Now somone like Lil Kim who displays her body just 4 the sake of she can do that I could suppoet your feeling! But nude women should not offend you at all because it's a natural state and we being the sinners we are tend to see what we want to see.Does this mean that you think National Geographic is a porn mag? LOL :huh:


Ain't is nice we can have a disagreement on here and nobody has called eachother outside of their name? :grin:

She probably just trying to advertise. She does have a clothing line or something in the works.
Using herself as the model my backfire though.... :bazooka:

I dont really care what she wears but I wouldn't be surprised if the Tennis officials/admins try to change the dress code rules for upcoming years.

I dont really care what she wears but I wouldn't be surprised if the Tennis officials/admins try to change the dress code rules for upcoming years.

I also think they will. You know they don't like her being out there showing all that booty.

FWIW:
Chanda Rubin looked quite good last night.
she was dressed the way i would expect a tennis professional to dress.
quiet class.

Venus, again, looked very poorly attired.
she hurt my eyes.

they had some ferocious rallies.
Chanda lost.

I'm praying for the day when she beats the Williams.

I'm praying for the day when she beats the Williams.

why would you pray for a Sister to lose?

that's deep

:heart:

Destee

I admit, the boots make her look a bit like a hooker. I mean they may be fashionable, but a tennis match is not the place for that kind of dress. Now if she's on a runway getting her model on--then hey I don't have an issue with it. But she is portraying herself, her family, and like it or not many Black Women here in america and throughout the Diaspora, that's the main reason that I have issue with it....how we are portraying ourselves to the greater human populace with all their sterotypes, and stereo-rights....

:fight: :fight: :yo: :yo: :fight: :fight:

can u dig it??

I still fail to see the big deal!

why would you pray for a Sister to lose?

that's deep

:heart:

Destee
Chanda Rubin is black.

Chanda Rubin is black.

oh ... okay ... i didn't know that ...

*sigh* ... yall got me so traumatized up in here ... :wink:

that helps me understand moe betta ... thank you Brother JamesFrmPhilly :love:

:heart:

Destee

its not so bad because she's just plugging her clothing line, besides she could also look like your average clubber, some street hookers dress normal, and some flashy, and its hard to tell between the 2 sometimes until u talk to one, or where they are hanging out. i.e. not a club.

Oba I dug Serena's outfit, and I wondered whether she could actually play tennis in that thing(smile!) In other words, i was thinking about the "functionality" of the outfit, as opposed to how it looked... Athletic uniforms, if you will, place more emphasis on making the athlete comfortable, rather than looking great - although in this modern age(since the 1970's)that is not altogether true...

I looked at Serena in her outfit, and I thought she looks like she wants to hang out at the club, rather than get all sweaty(yum yum)on a tennis court(smile!) Other than that, I know it is my responsibility to take all of this with a grain of salt...

Over the years I've seen so many African Athletes criticised for bringing our culture onto the court, or Black professionals and laborers being F-ed with because they wore their dreads, braids, and tatoos, that i know already that it's a coded attack on our culture, and on our people... It is the Majority society telling us in all of their continued arrogance, that we didn't give you OUR permission to do THAT, and thus begins the verbal assault...

Well, there are gonna be some Africans who turn tail and run from the assault, and those who stand up against it, knowing they will win when all is said and done... I choose to stand up against the assault, not because I am RIGHT(nobody's right or wrong), but to assert the freedom of choice, and to say to those who are going to resort to Verbal Assaults to control me, it aint gone work... I support that much about what Serena is doing, her right to do it... She aint hurting nobody... She's doing her thang, as Muhammad Ali, Deion Sanders, Reggie Jackson, or Ricky Henderson have done before her... I supported Ricky Henderson and Allen Iverson, and i'm gone support the sista - period...

Peace!
Isaiah

.. She aint hurting nobody... she is hurting me.
every time i turn on my TV, i feel embarrassed when i see her or her sister.

i am not part of the majority society nor am i unaware of African sensibilities.
to model your self after a common street hooker is NOT advancing African culture.
is R Kelly advancing African culture? is Micheal Jackson?

there is a right and a wrong and the Williams come down squarely on the wrong side.

Brother James, don't get me wrong, I did not say she was advancing AFrican culture any more than Iverson wearing them tatoos is advancing African Culture... I doubt that either of the two of them know what is and isn't African Cuture...(smile!)

But now you're going into another area which is something you're foisting upon her.... Like is it her responsibility to further African Culture? I guess it is to some extent, because as African people, our every move should be about it 'bout it, but...would that not begin in her home and community???

Remember, these are different times we live in... Those things of our community as discussed in the Honoring Our Elders thread, were not perpetuated as they should've been, and we have so much negative competition from the larger society's decadence and demonization of our culture, that to not have reinforced those things we held dear, is something we should've know would lead to things we didn't like... If Serena is representing something we don't like, then that's our fault to some extent...

For me, she is representing a certain African beauty which we might even find overwhelming at times(smile!) Those are those sistas that leave you in pieces on the ground... Imagine what it does to the larger society, seeing this amazon-like young Black woman put her "pale" competitors to shame???(smile!) Again, brother, I still see the relativity of it all, how seeing us dance the Lindy in the '30's, or seeing Chuck Berry wielding his guitar like a phallic instrument in the '50's, caused White folks fits, knowing their children would be emulating these African things...its that calvinist spazing over Black skin and Black things... Like I said, I don't want to see sisters exposing their bodies in this society - even as I think, feel, believe Black Womna's body is the most awesome sight my eyes have ever beheld... I don't like it because of the history of this nation, what it has done to African women, how it devalued their existence, commodified it even more so than Black men...

By the same token, I know how sisters are... If they want to wear that dress that hugs their angles and curves, or wear those ridiculous hiphugger jeans that never seem to quite make it around the circumference of their African backsides, leaving more hangin' out than I got in, aint zip I can say(smile!)... They're gonna wear it anyway... I just have to be comfortable with myself, and not allow it all to reflect negatively on me... BTW, James, Sistas wore the hell outta them hot pants in the 70's - with the knee-high boots - and brothers was lovin' it(smile!) Why are we revising history 30 years later, and saying those are Ho Boots???(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah

Hmmmm! May I cut in on this post?

Her clothing is setting back African culture? I don't watch much tennis other
than the clips they show on they news. Is her outfit that much different from what they are wearing on the court? I mean I've seen the little skirts with the sleeveless tops and to me its not much different from what this sister had on. Okay, the boots was different, but she didn't play in those.

We need to learn to stop judging people from the outside. After all it is the character of person that makes the greatest statement. Isn't it? I looked at her outfit and combined it to her character and the message I got from it was, I am strong! I am confident! I will fight this battle to the bitter end! And I will do it comfortably!!!

I didn't see a hoer! I saw a person ready for a challenge! Maybe it's the conditioning my mind has been subjected to. Maybe it's the conditioning that others minds have been subjected to. Either way her outfit wasn't enough for me to come to the conclusion that she is representing a street hoer and creating a negative look at Black Culture! She has two big legs and two strong arms! Thats all I saw!!! :wink:

purplemoon u said a mouth full i so much agree 110%
we so quick to judge the character of a person i saw a
strong sistah in battle to win and make a deeper history
to add in our black culture my eyes was on the points not
our sistah body she really didn't pose a message as a hoer
but a tennis pro!

Just leave the girl to wear whatever she wants

sorry folks, there is a right and there is a wrong.
Serena is totally wrong in this case.

i suggest you rethink your position.
if anything goes, anytime, anywhere.
if there is no wrong.

you are opening up a can of worms.

Why does it seem like the only way women feel they can make fashion statements is by showing skin. I mean, I know that's what media wants to see, but why not go out on a limb and be a little creative. Showing less is not always better, and really that shows a lack of creativity and vision IMO.

I don't think it would matter if she were showing less skin. If she showed up in anything different people would still pick at her outfit.

sorry folks, there is a right and there is a wrong.
Serena is totally wrong in this case.

i suggest you rethink your position.
if anything goes, anytime, anywhere.
if there is no wrong.

you are opening up a can of worms.


I guess I just don't get your problem with the williams sisters. A person would think that they were poseing nude in a PlayBoy magazine or somthing. Some of the outfits have been revealing in some ways but nothing that was tasteless. They are boots not steletto High heel strip club specials...lol
Did the Puma Suit make u feel like a crime was commited? What makes you right about this and everyone esle wrong anyway? I just don't get it! There are alot of Sisters who are promoting and living a negative lifestyle so why would we bash the positive ones? Or are you just mad because they are doing this in a so called white sport?

....one thing is for sure, I can't half stand that fake blonde mess she sticks to her head...both her hair and attire hurts her more than it helps, imo:

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51070430.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D113652325CCB81D87B7B EF61621B2AC3A62513D3 <---at least she's not blonde here. :rolleyes1:


...I hate that she got cheated out of that match though.
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What makes you right about this and everyone else wrong anyway?
as i read it, folks seem to be saying that there are no standards, there are no limits, that anything goes.

i say, that is wrong.

Serena is good to me... I love to watch her and her sister play. I don't even mind the outfits. I personally think the boots were a tad bit tacky. I wouldn't say she was street hookerish because tennis is all bras and short skirts anyway. She's built differently from the other tennis players, so she's seen differently. I just didn't like the outfit...it wasn't that she was wearin it. The next fit might look a little better I hope. In addition...their hair and earrings always bother me, but those girls are bad (when they're not beating themselves in a match).

Serena is build differently...she is built like a woman, which is not common to female athletes.

Serena is build differently...she is built like a woman, which is not common to female athletes.
Serena is fat

Fat?? I doubt that her percentage of bodyfat is over the healthy standard of 18% for women. Come on now James, you may not like her, but saying she's anywhere near fat is just wrong.

Fat?? I doubt that her percentage of bodyfat is over the healthy standard of 18% for women. Come on now James, you may not like her, but saying she's anywhere near fat is just wrong.
have you looked at her stomach? her rear? her bosoms?
http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51070430.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D113652325CCB81D87B7B EF61621B2AC3A62513D3

she is fat. :smash:

Serena is Phat!

Serena is Phat!
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgth!

Look brother jamesfromphilly...you are off base on this one. I hope you didn't seek to prove Serena is "fat" with the provided link? Actually you are the 1st person (white, black, or otherwise) who I've heard refer to Serena Williams as fat. She is anything but fat! I dare say that Serena has a perfect body! If you believe Serena is fat, I'd really like to know what standards you judge women by. In fact now I'm curious...post a pic of your perfect woman.

Fat...now that's a little silly.

Naomi Campbell

In other words you are into the European, stick-figure, Super Model type. Well you are entitled to like what ever you like...however most brothers don't consider Serena Williams to be fat! We like curves!!

How come both just can't be beautiful. Noami is cute...she's tall and skinny. Serena's cute....she's tall and thick. Heck, I'm short and thick....I must be really messed up. ;)

In other words you are into the European, stick-figure, Super Model type. Well you are entitled to like what ever you like...however most brothers don't consider Serena Williams to be fat! We like curves!!
stick figure? have you ever actually seen her? i have.
are you stating that a slim black female is "European".
there are no slim ladies in Africa?

i have been a photographer for over 15 years and i have seen my share of models.
i do know what a good looking woman is like.

most brothers may well like Serena.
most brothers like chrome wheels on their rides.
most brothers like a lot of things.

i am not most brothers.

most brothers may well like Serena.
most brothers like chrome wheels on their rides.
most brothers like a lot of things.
i am not most brothers.

Okay I'll respect that brother JamesfromPhilly!

williams is a beautiful nice figured woman Campbell is also nice but
by far is Serena fat brother she really is what many black men feel
the perfect size and shape indeed i love curves .
why so hard on a gifted sista who out to prove we as blacks are winners ?
one outfit and now she nothing , this just another part of our struggle as
people cause can't be for the people
Serena graded A+ from my eyes

Serena is fat


Somone please give this brother some glasses and a eye doctor! :ohmy: FAT? :confused: And you say that Naomi Campbell is not skinny? Both have their positives and negatives but Naomi is a sandwich away from being a stick figure....lol
:teach: Serena has a body most "WOMEN" would kill for...lol I have seen her without the makeup bro it aint all that when it's off....lol

Yo James back away from the bar because tha Big @zz cup of "Hateration" you are drinking is 2 strong 4 you Brah! :coffee:

Naomi is a walking street hooker looking chick...lol So tell me when she showing her @zz and TaTa's is she a street hooker? :huh:

Somone please give this brother some glasses and a eye doctor! :ohmy: FAT? :confused: And you say that Naomi Campbell is not skinny? Both have their positives and negatives but Naomi is a sandwich away from being a stick figure....lol
:teach: Serena has a body most "WOMEN" would kill for...lol I have seen her without the makeup bro it aint all that when it's off....lol

Yo James back away from the bar because tha Big @zz cup of "Hateration" you are drinking is 2 strong 4 you Brah! :coffee:

Naomi is a walking street hooker looking chick...lol So tell me when she showing her @zz and TaTa's is she a street hooker? :huh:
variety is the spice of life.

Serena dresses normal:
i saw her play tonight and she was dressed like a tennis player.
i wonder if she reads Destee?

Serena dresses normal:
i saw her play tonight and she was dressed like a tennis player.
i wonder if she reads Destee?

****, James, I wonder 'bout that myself(smile!) Actually, as we are a reflection of African American feeling and sentiment here at Destee, I am sure she heard loud and clear how folks feel about her fashion statements... But I really feel that she was just modeling her stuff, and folks took it outta context... I believe the sista was raised right, and aint freakin' off 'cause she's a freak(smile!) Then again, who knows... Aint nothin' wrong with a little freakin' off er'y now and then, if I do say so myself...(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah

Serena dresses normal:
i saw her play tonight and she was dressed like a tennis player.
i wonder if she reads Destee?


Hahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaha :lol: :laugh:

****, James, I wonder 'bout that myself(smile!) Actually, as we are a reflection of African American feeling and sentiment here at Destee, I am sure she heard loud and clear how folks feel about her fashion statements... But I really feel that she was just modeling her stuff, and folks took it outta context... I believe the sista was raised right, and aint freakin' off 'cause she's a freak(smile!) Then again, who knows... Aint nothin' wrong with a little freakin' off er'y now and then, if I do say so myself...(smile!)

Peace!
Isaiah
wait for the tape :slobber:

First let me say from a woman's perspective that Serena is built like a brick house. The way of the world is change. Fashions change, sentiments change. What Serena was wearing is not very revealing by today's standards. She showed some leg and a little stomach. If you want to see revealing check out a Brittany Spears video. Of course there are limits, but as for mine Serena didn't cross them at all. I dress conservativley, only because that is my personal style. Serena Williams is a grown woman with her own sense of style. Calling her a *** is judging a book by its cover and we all know what happens when you do that.

Calling her a *** is judging a book by its cover and we all know what happens when you do that.
why do you think they put covers on books?