Black People | African Americans | Online Community





Black Chat - Black Poetry - Black Discussions - Destee





Black People | Black Chat | Black Poetry | Destee

Is The Devil Physical Or Is He A Spirit , Ghost , Or Spook ?????

IssaEl21
08-27-2004, 06:17 AM
Is The Devil Physical Or Is He A Spirit , Ghost , Or Spook ?????
The Devil Is A HUMAN BEING , A Man Flesh , And Boold , The Devil Has A Body With Ibliys Evil Spirit In Him . Christian / Minister / Pastors Iman Etc.. Would Lead You To Believe That The Devil And His Fol;;owers Are Spirits , Ghost , Or Spooks , Or Just White People . However , This Is One Of The Biggest Misconceptions . Don't Allow Yourself To Become Confused . The Devil Has Manifested As A Physical Seed That Has Been Fruitful And As Multiplied . Because When It Comes To The Truth About Nakhash ( The Evil Reptilian ) . The Truth Of The Matter Is That He Is Indeed Part REPTILIAN Being The Son Of Tarnush . A Reptilian , And Part Anuuaqi , Being The Son Of His Mother Mylitta The Anunnaqi !! < Lucifer Was A Product Of A Mixed Marriage , Being The Son Of The Two Beings , The Reptilian , Tarnush Raped The Anunnaqi Mylitta , Which Made Lucifer Part REPTILIAN And Part ANUNNAQI . People Are Spell Bound And Can't Recognize Him And Thats The Biggest Advantage The He Has Over You . You Can't Accept That The Devil And His 200 Fallen Eloheem Are None Other Than Human Physical Beings , WOMAN An MEN Just Like You , White Devil As Well As Blacks Devils , Who Reside On The Planet Earth . And That Is Exactly How He Want It . He Doesn't Want You To Be Able To Recogonize Him . He Need You To Stay Blind . AndUnder The SPELL OF SLEEP , Because Onece The Spell Is Totally Lifted . He Won't Be In Control Of You . TRUTH IS TRUTH ! Yet You Refuse To Accept That The Evil Reptilian Is Alive And Walking In The Planet Earth . Read Job 1 ; 6 - 7 , And I Quote ; Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Whence have you come?" Satan answered the LORD, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it." ;... Remember When The 200 Fallen Angelic Beings , Were Cast Down From Heaven With Azaxel To The Planet Earth , They Took On Physical Forms Called Anakim Or Nefilians . They Were Hindus With Six Ether Straight Hair , And Black Eyes With Dark Brown Skin And Red HairAnd Green Eyes And Brown Skin . Not Blode Haired Blue Eyes Demons, You're Caught Up On The Word '' Beings '' The Word '' Beings '' Means '' The State Or Fact Of Existing Or Living ; One Lives Or Exists Or Is Assumed To Do So . Of Physical And Mental Qualities That Make A Person . You Are Human Beings . Thus , Angelic Beings Are Physical . With Agreeable Or Benevolent Natures And Disagreeable Or Malevolent Natures . Do You Still Doubt ??? Then You Should Take A LQQk At Daniel 9 ; 21 , And I Quote . while I was speaking in prayer, the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the first, came to me in swift flight at the time of the evening sacrifice ;... Where It Speaks About The Angelic Being Gabriy'el / Nusku As A Man , Iysh = '' Male Living Being ''. Then Go Further And Read Ezekie 28 ; 14 - 18 , Isaiah 14 ; 12 - 21 And Revelation 13 ;18 , And Koran 72 ; 6 . These Quotes Are Are All Spraking Of The Devil , As A Male Living Being Iysh Being Bound To Dwell On Earth . First Let's Go To Genesis 3 ; 15 , And You Will See The Aramic / Hebrew Word Zeh - Reh Meaning '' Offspring , Descendants , Prosperity '' Of The Devil And Eve . In Ashuric/ Syriac / Arabic , You Get The Words Nasala Which Is Defined As '' Physical Seed '' Then When You Go To Genesis6 ; 4 , It Tells You That They Came Down To Earth As Nephillims Or Giants And They Had Sex With The Daughters Of Men Which Were Human Beings , Cain's Seed And Bore Children . They Lived On Even Afterwards As The Anakites . Some Of These Beings Incarnated Spiritually Into The Offspring Of Libana ( Canaan ) Which Became , The Caucasian Race. Spirit Do Not Have Sperm And Ovum , And They Don't Have Chromosomes . Or Have Children Offspring Cannot Be Used In A Spiritual Sense . You Know That Nakhash ( The Whisperer ) Called The Serpent , Is Not An Actual Snake . This Is What He Wants You To Believe . A Snake Is Merely A Metaphoric Analogy Because It Is Low To The Ground As It Crawls On It's Belly , Hisses Like A Whisper AndMost Are Poisonous , Which Is How The Character Of Nakhash ...
( The Whisperer ) Is Described . Remember The War That Took Place In The Heaven Was Because Nakhash's Refusal To Bow In Respect Of Kadmon / Adam Koran 2; 34 . And Was Cast Out , Revelation 12 ; 9 , Drom What You Call Heaven To Dwell On The Earth Koran 7 ; 25 , And I Quote , He SaidTherein Shall Ye Live And Therein Shall Ye Die . But From It Shall Ye Be Taken Out ( At Last ) .
So Do Not Be Confused . Nakhash Is A Being Appearing As A Man . Bashar . In Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic . As Well As In Aramic / Hebrew Bashir Meaning '' Mortal In The Skin '' And He Intends To Make Good On His Promise In Koran 15 ; 39 - 40
And I Quote . '' Iblis Said ; O Lord ! Because Thou Hast Put Me In The Wrong , I Will Make ( Wrong ) , Except Thy Servants Among Them , Sincere AndPurified ( By Thy Grace. ) Nashash Has Set Forth His Plan To Make Evil Fair-Seeming Isaiah 5 ; 20 , As Well As To Make You Believe That , Time Brings About The Changes Of Ways And Laws . Many Of You Have Accept Nakhash's Promise Over That Of The Most High .

Music Producer
08-27-2004, 03:29 PM
The Devil can exist in any form necessary to complete the LORDs programmed objective.

IssaEl21
08-27-2004, 07:51 PM
The Devil can exist in any form necessary to complete the LORDs programmed objective.


Do You Every Take The Time ToThink BeFore You Say Things .
Just A Question .

toylin
08-27-2004, 08:43 PM
The Devil can exist in any form necessary to complete the LORDs programmed objective.

So you think that the Devil is a spirit that can maniest itself in the flesh?

Music Producer
08-27-2004, 11:52 PM
So you think that the Devil is a spirit that can maniest itself in the flesh?Yes, but understand that there is more than one Devil or I like to say hosts of heaven that YH has ordained to play the role to test or tempt the heart and soul of man. I suspect there are eight in total that play this role.

Eccl:11:2: Give a portion to seven, and also to eight; for thou knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth.

Rv:1:16: And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

The seven stars represent seven of the evils Ecclesiastes was referring to, when we count the one that is holding or commanding the stars we see eight in total. Strange how we have eight major religions in the earth.

GOD has referred to, two of those eight. This is a reference to the first born or created….

Isa:14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

I suspect the second born or created became a great ruler of a city during the days of Israel. The city was Tyrus; first he was a Prince and then became King of Tyrus. This is a reference to it.

Ezek:28:16: By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

These entities appear to us as righteousness or the light. You have to understand that they are the Sons of GOD being born or created first or before GOD created anything else. All was cool until GOD created us, humans. The Koran suggest the first created did not want to bowl before man because he felt his essence was greater then ours. The Old Testaments suggest it was because they wanted human woman for themselves. In taking human women there offspring’s and them became gods on earth. It was the main reason GOD flooded the earth. We can even see references as to how we served them as gods on earth…

Josh:24:2: And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.

Josh:24:14: Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.

Josh:24:15: And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.


But never the less remember that Satan or the Devil is one of the most loyal servants of YH. He can’t stop from doing so because the hosts of heaven from GODs prospective are like robots programmed to do a task and follow orders. That’s why it is wrong for us to worship, praise or uplift any host of heaven but GOD/YH.

Chucky
08-27-2004, 11:56 PM
So you think that the Devil is a spirit that can maniest itself in the flesh?

Yes. I will refrain from saying what flesh he manifests himself in. Black people innately are godly. Infer what you want.

Music Producer
08-28-2004, 12:01 AM
Do You Every Take The Time ToThink BeFore You Say Things .
Just A Question .
The Devil took on many forms in Job, but if you would notice each time he took on a form it had to be ordained or permitted by YH first.

So what makes you laugh at my statement? Is it because I us one of the most sold and most popular books to prove my point and don’t have to refer to obscure writings and languages to show what you try to show? All of the information needed to have a clear understanding is within the bulk of the KJV itself. You don’t need to go get this book or that book it is write there, in plain English and it is not hidden. The only thing required of you is to pay attention to GOD and put HIS Specific Words over all.

Radical Faith
08-28-2004, 02:12 AM
First and foremost in understanding the enemy one must recognize his weapons of warfare. The enemy's primary weapon is deception hence the name "prince of lies". When we analyze the enemy there are certains things we can say about him based upon scripture in the Bible. First we see that Satan can assume or manipulate mortal flesh beings to do his bidding. This was proven in Genesis 3 when Satan either was in the form of or manipulated the serpent causing woman to eat from the forbidden tree. This tells us Satan is intellent, persuasive and is knowledgeable of our weaknesses. Then we see that Satan was a created angelic being before he fell and became Satan that hides as a man among men. The is proven in Ezekiel 28. Satan is shown to possess dominion, authority, wealth, knowledge and wisdom as King Tyre in the form of a man. It also shows Satan was ordained the angelic order of cherum, was the most beautiful and highly decorated of Gods creations. This scripture show the enemy's intention to be a god and overthrow God. This is the first case disobedience to God's will thus evil is born. This is also proven in Isaiah 14:12-17. So we see through deception Satan takes whatever form is suitable to achieve the deception to build his army of conquest for the supposed overthrow of God and his sovereign.

IssaEl21
08-28-2004, 05:33 AM
The Devil Is Real Man Or Woman OverStand . All One Have To Just LQQK Around And See What's Going In The World . It Has Nothing To Do With Spook's Or Ghost Etc. EveryThing Real . And For Those Who Are Into This Spookism Etc. According To Your Own Scriptures Its Say He A Man , Now If You Want To Believe In This Spookism So Be It . Food For Though .. You Have Never Heard Of Any Spook Nor Ghost .. Rapeing / Robbery / Murdering / Kidnapping Etc. Etc ,,, Again EveryThing Real Stop Playing On Words . Tricks Are For Kids .

Music Producer
08-29-2004, 12:30 AM
First and foremost in understanding the enemy one must recognize his weapons of warfare. The enemy's primary weapon is deception hence the name "prince of lies". When we analyze the enemy there are certains things we can say about him based upon scripture in the Bible. First we see that Satan can assume or manipulate mortal flesh beings to do his bidding. This was proven in Genesis 3 when Satan either was in the form of or manipulated the serpent causing woman to eat from the forbidden tree. This tells us Satan is intellent, persuasive and is knowledgeable of our weaknesses. Then we see that Satan was a created angelic being before he fell and became Satan that hides as a man among men. The is proven in Ezekiel 28. Satan is shown to possess dominion, authority, wealth, knowledge and wisdom as King Tyre in the form of a man. It also shows Satan was ordained the angelic order of cherum, was the most beautiful and highly decorated of Gods creations. This scripture show the enemy's intention to be a god and overthrow God. This is the first case disobedience to God's will thus evil is born. This is also proven in Isaiah 14:12-17. So we see through deception Satan takes whatever form is suitable to achieve the deception to build his army of conquest for the supposed overthrow of God and his sovereign.I understand your point of view but you are working on the assumption that there is one Devil. The entities that became the Fallen in Geneses are referred to as Sons of GOD; this can be confirmed even with the Hebrew Script. So stop trying to call them Angels or Divine Beings in an attempt to pull the GOD given definition of Jesus as being HIS Son out of the picture of being suspect. I will not allow servants of Jesus to re-write the Book.

GOD has shown us two references to entities that would be Satans or the Fallen. In these references HE refers to them with deferent descriptive names. One is referred to as Covering Cherub.

Ezek:28:16: By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

The other is referred to as Lucifer or Son of the Morning.

Isa:14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

What we have here is two different references to beings that are named as to their descriptive properties. All of the Sons of GOD have a natural desire to be like the FATHER.

Music Producer
08-29-2004, 12:54 AM
The reason black people appear to be evil is due to this curse.

Deut:32:23: I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

The first defense one has against a curse is to be aware of it. The second defense is to begin taking measures to free one of the curses. In our case the measures would be to return to the GOD of the Old Testament and began praising that GOD. At the moment this is what GOD desires of us.

Hosea:6:6: For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

At the moment (which is a long time) GOD wants us to grow in understanding HIM and knowing HIM. This is accomplished through reading and studying about our walk with HIM.
The Devils will do anything within their power to keep us from this. One day we shall fulfill this prophecy.

Jer:31:34: And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

We must start the path of getting to know GOD.

IssaEl21
08-29-2004, 01:00 AM
The Devil took on many forms in Job, but if you would notice each time he took on a form it had to be ordained or permitted by YH first.

So what makes you laugh at my statement? Is it because I us one of the most sold and most popular books to prove my point and don’t have to refer to obscure writings and languages to show what you try to show? All of the information needed to have a clear understanding is within the bulk of the KJV itself. You don’t need to go get this book or that book it is write there, in plain English and it is not hidden. The only thing required of you is to pay attention to GOD and put HIS Specific Words over all.


First You Didn't Answer The Question . Do You Ever THINK Before You Write Your Post Yes Or No ? AnyOne With A Little Bit Of Knowledge Of The Scriptures Know The Scriptures Wasn't Writen In Greek Nor Latin . Nor English . < English Is The Devil Language Why Do You Think He Pushing For Everyone To Speak It . He Trying To Make You Forget Your Culture & Language And Who You Really Are > Then Again You Wouldn't Know About Things Like That . Oh By The Way If You Really Knew The History Of King James . You Wouldn't Tell Anyone About Him Or His Book . King James Was Gay . And I Don't Need To Tell You How Some Christian Feel About Gay People .

IssaEl21
08-29-2004, 01:18 AM
The reason black people appear to be evil is due to this curse.

Deut:32:23: I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

The first defense one has against a curse is to be aware of it. The second defense is to begin taking measures to free one of the curses. In our case the measures would be to return to the GOD of the Old Testament and began praising that GOD. At the moment this is what GOD desires of us.

Hosea:6:6: For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

At the moment (which is a long time) GOD wants us to grow in understanding HIM and knowing HIM. This is accomplished through reading and studying about our walk with HIM.
The Devils will do anything within their power to keep us from this. One day we shall fulfill this prophecy.

Jer:31:34: And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

We must start the path of getting to know GOD.


You Have Truely Lost It , And I Mean Lost It . Where In The Bible Does It Say Blacks Were Curse . Chapter & Verse ?

Radical Faith
08-29-2004, 11:31 AM
The Devil Is Real Man Or Woman OverStand . All One Have To Just LQQK Around And See What's Going In The World . It Has Nothing To Do With Spook's Or Ghost Etc. EveryThing Real . And For Those Who Are Into This Spookism Etc. According To Your Own Scriptures Its Say He A Man , Now If You Want To Believe In This Spookism So Be It . Food For Though .. You Have Never Heard Of Any Spook Nor Ghost .. Rapeing / Robbery / Murdering / Kidnapping Etc. Etc ,,, Again EveryThing Real Stop Playing On Words . Tricks Are For Kids .


You are right brother, there are truly evil people out there. There is a post that speaks of the Illuminati. These men and woman wear the markings, practice deception and subtleness and are people of great authority and dominion. These flesh beings are doing Satan's bidding and establishing his one world church or "new world order". Satan himself is more than mortal man, if this were so we would be able to find him and kill him thus ending the existence of the devil. Satan is way more craftier than that. Here's food for thought: The KKK, WASP,Aerian Nation, Satanic Church and other various hate groups and devil worshippers are hated by the authorities for what reason? Because they're inheritently evil? No. They are hated by the authorities because they expose themselves and are counterproductive the enemies plan of new world order. As I stated before Satan uses subtleness and deception as his weapons of war. Satan doesn't want people know he in control until it's to late to do anything about. Peace Brother

Radical Faith
08-29-2004, 12:02 PM
You Have Truely Lost It , And I Mean Lost It . Where In The Bible Does It Say Blacks Were Curse . Chapter & Verse ?

I agree with you Issa, brother Music has lost it. I've heard of a group of people that call themselves followers of Christ and believe in the ridiculous notion that the mark place on Cain was black skin. That would allow his progeny to stand out among men and not be killed off by any others. To do so would incur Gods wraith upon the violater. Well this theory was debunk during the slave trade. There were an estimated 100 million black skins people dumped overboard slave ships by Europeans during the course of the slave trade to the Americas. Talk about a holocost. If the cursed black skins people were protected by this curse as well as being cursed by it, why have we not seen God's wraith incurred on the violaters? Because black skin people are not cursed. Just like Issa said show some scripture & verses. If you refer to what I think you what will refer to, We will truely see who you are and where your coming from. Peace.

Music Producer
08-29-2004, 12:43 PM
First You Didn't Answer The Question . Do You Ever THINK Before You Write Your Post Yes Or No ? AnyOne With A Little Bit Of Knowledge Of The Scriptures Know The Scriptures Wasn't Writen In Greek Nor Latin . Nor English . < English Is The Devil Language Why Do You Think He Pushing For Everyone To Speak It . He Trying To Make You Forget Your Culture & Language And Who You Really Are > Then Again You Wouldn't Know About Things Like That . Oh By The Way If You Really Knew The History Of King James . You Wouldn't Tell Anyone About Him Or His Book . King James Was Gay . And I Don't Need To Tell You How Some Christian Feel About Gay People .
Once again your question has nothing to do with spiritual guidance.
I don’t recall ever saying what the scripture was originally written in. But if you want to know the entire Old Testaments was originally written in Egyptian Hieroglyphs. Those particular writings are in the hands of our enemy, the Levitican, buried deep in one of their safes were only there chosen get to look upon it. We as commoners don’t have access to it.

Nebuchadnezzar was one of the most horrid and evil men in the Bible but yet the LORD accomplished works through him, even gave him all the nations to rule, so what’s your point about King James?

English is not the Devils language, it just happens to be the language of the people that took part in our chastisement. Stop looking to rebel against everything. It is up to you only to rekindle and embrace your natural language but you and I both know most black people will not do this. That’s why I refrain from using obscure or ancient languages. My information is presented for the commoner or plain O black folk, that is what makes up the bulk of Israel, just plain O black folks. That’s why my information comes from a book that is probably lying around some were in your house or is readably available, cause we just plain O black folks.

If there was an exodus to Africa at this moment, what language do you think the majority would use and understand?

It’s just like when we came out of Egypt after 400 years we spoke and communicated in the Egyptian tongue.

Music Producer
08-29-2004, 12:49 PM
You Have Truely Lost It , And I Mean Lost It . Where In The Bible Does It Say Blacks Were Curse . Chapter & Verse ?
Deut 11:
26: Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27: A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
28: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.


As you and I both know we broke the covenant with GOD, thus we are cursed as long as we ignore that agreement and follow other gods.

Radical Faith
08-29-2004, 01:00 PM
Deut 11:
26: Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27: A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
28: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.


As you and I both know we broke the covenant with GOD, thus we are cursed as long as we ignore that agreement and follow other gods.


This can be said of anyone not just black people. I feel you are alluding to the Black Christian Church. You have not successfully proven that Jesus is Satan nor have you proven to follow the teachings of Jesus is Satanic. The scriptures have proven otherwise. I've have shown you this time and time again. Let us just say you have your interpretation of scripture and I have mine and in the end God will be the Judge. Peace

IssaEl21
08-29-2004, 01:00 PM
I agree with you Issa, brother Music has lost it. I've heard of a group of people that call themselves followers of Christ and believe in the ridiculous notion that the mark place on Cain was black skin. That would allow his progeny to stand out among men and not be killed off by any others. To do so would incur Gods wraith upon the violater. Well this theory was debunk during the slave trade. There were an estimated 100 million black skins people dumped overboard slave ships by Europeans during the course of the slave trade to the Americas. Talk about a holocost. If the cursed black skins people were protected by this curse as well as being cursed by it, why have we not seen God's wraith incurred on the violaters? Because black skin people are not cursed. Just like Issa said show some scripture & verses. If you refer to what I think you what will refer to, We will truely see who you are and where your coming from. Peace.


The People You're Speak Of Are The Mormon . In Their Bible Called < The Book Of Mormon 2Nephi 5 ; 20 - 25 , Speaks Of Nubians Being Curse Black . Go On Line And You'll See It ForYourself . Plus There Teacher Joseph Smith Was A Mason . One Time I Was Debateing A Mormon And He Didn't Realize He Was Talking To A Nubian And He Said The Same Thing Music Said . And I Really Pick His Teaching Apart Plus Told Him About His Teacher Being A Mason Boyyyyyyy Was He Pissed ... According To The Bible Canaan Was Curse Not Ham Who Was His Father . Music Is A Funny Guy , He Just Say Anything Without Even Thinking . He Must Be Self Taugh . But Hopefully He Will Wakeup Before Its To Late . Because Time IS Really Runing Out

Radical Faith
08-29-2004, 01:23 PM
The People You're Speak Of Are The Mormon . In Their Bible Called < The Book Of Mormon 2Nephi 5 ; 20 - 25 , Speaks Of Nubians Being Curse Black . Go On Line And You'll See It ForYourself . Plus There Teacher Joseph Smith Was A Mason . One Time I Was Debateing A Mormon And He Didn't Realize He Was Talking To A Nubian And He Said The Same Thing Music Said . And I Really Pick His Teaching Apart Plus Told Him About His Teacher Being A Mason Boyyyyyyy Was He Pissed ... According To The Bible Canaan Was Curse Not Ham Who Was His Father . Music Is A Funny Guy , He Just Say Anything Without Even Thinking . He Must Be Self Taugh . But Hopefully He Will Wakeup Before Its To Late . Because Time IS Really Runing Out


See brother you do know who the enemy is and how he work. I have had Mormons come to my home along with Jehovah's Witnesses so I know there game. I even thought of become a Mason before I (as you and others here preach so dilegently) studied them and realize their true motive and hidden agenda. Now you talk about a white man's corruption of scripture. True devils at work. Peace.

IssaEl21
08-29-2004, 04:16 PM
Once again your question has nothing to do with spiritual guidance.
I don’t recall ever saying what the scripture was originally written in. But if you want to know the entire Old Testaments was originally written in Egyptian Hieroglyphs. Those particular writings are in the hands of our enemy, the Levitican, buried deep in one of their safes were only there chosen get to look upon it. We as commoners don’t have access to it.

Nebuchadnezzar was one of the most horrid and evil men in the Bible but yet the LORD accomplished works through him, even gave him all the nations to rule, so what’s your point about King James?

English is not the Devils language, it just happens to be the language of the people that took part in our chastisement. Stop looking to rebel against everything. It is up to you only to rekindle and embrace your natural language but you and I both know most black people will not do this. That’s why I refrain from using obscure or ancient languages. My information is presented for the commoner or plain O black folk, that is what makes up the bulk of Israel, just plain O black folks. That’s why my information comes from a book that is probably lying around some were in your house or is readably available, cause we just plain O black folks.

If there was an exodus to Africa at this moment, what language do you think the majority would use and understand?

It’s just like when we came out of Egypt after 400 years we spoke and communicated in the Egyptian tongue.



Translate This For Me < Akhay - Atha - Antuk - Shenu - Kalun - Renuk >
This Is Ancient Egiptian Mystery Language From The Wall's Of Egipt
You May See Yourself As A Plain Old Black Man . But I'm Not , Nor Do I Call MySelf Black . I Am A Nubian , And If You Have Taken The Time And LQQkup The Word Black , You Wouldn't Call Yourself Black Ether , But Then And Again What Do You Know About AnyThinggggggggg. You Say Anything Without A Though Don't You . :geek:

IssaEl21
08-29-2004, 04:23 PM
What Is A Soul ? Shouldn't Be A Hard Question ForYou Right ??????

Music Producer
08-29-2004, 09:24 PM
What Is A Soul ? Shouldn't Be A Hard Question ForYou Right ??????

A soul is a Breath of GOD.


Gen:2:7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

IssaEl21
08-31-2004, 01:33 AM
Deut 11:
26: Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27: A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
28: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.


As you and I both know we broke the covenant with GOD, thus we are cursed as long as we ignore that agreement and follow other gods.


YOUR MIND IS CURSED BIG TIME THAT FOR SURE

Music Producer
08-31-2004, 08:56 AM
YOUR MIND IS CURSED BIG TIME THAT FOR SURENo, my mind, body and soul has been lifted of the curse because unlike my ancestors and so many of us today I have learn not to embrace the religion of the heathens around about me, I have learn to accept GOD and GOD only and love the fact that my knowledge and love grows for HIM each day. I have learned to put GODs Specific Words above all and found that it is only respect. I have learned that I do have a GOD even though everyday I see heathens that have stolen my people’s history and living my life. But all they do is fulfill the Word.

Hosea:1:10: Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

It is not my mind that is cursed, it is yours because you continue to accept and believe in the statement the heathens make to you every time they show you a white man claiming to be the original people of the Old Testaments. Your mind continues to be trapped in the (Ye are not my people) statement.

To bad you cant see that our entire existence evolves around Specific Sayings of GOD.

IssaEl21
08-31-2004, 02:39 PM
No, my mind, body and soul has been lifted of the curse because unlike my ancestors and so many of us today I have learn not to embrace the religion of the heathens around about me, I have learn to accept GOD and GOD only and love the fact that my knowledge and love grows for HIM each day. I have learned to put GODs Specific Words above all and found that it is only respect. I have learned that I do have a GOD even though everyday I see heathens that have stolen my people’s history and living my life. But all they do is fulfill the Word.

Hosea:1:10: Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

It is not my mind that is cursed, it is yours because you continue to accept and believe in the statement the heathens make to you every time they show you a white man claiming to be the original people of the Old Testaments. Your mind continues to be trapped in the (Ye are not my people) statement.

To bad you cant see that our entire existence evolves around Specific Sayings of GOD.

Each Post You Write Show How Your Mind Deteioaring A Little Each Day . A Ant Has More Knowledge Of The Bible Then You Ever Have . And You're Right I'm Not Of Your People , And Thank The Most High For That . Because If Ignorance Was A Crime They Would Lock You Up And Throw Away The Key . It People Like YourSelf That Make The White Man Think , Their No Intelligent Nubians Among Us . At First I Though You Were Just Trying To Be Smart Guy . But As Time When By I See You're Really Brian Dead , And You Have No Control Of Your Own Thoughts . And You Must Be Living In Some Institution And Using The Computer While Everyone Sleep . Because No Way Anyone Would Let You Write Such Mindness Though's , About The Scriptures Or History For That Matter , Because You Know Nothing About Neither .

Sekhemu
08-31-2004, 03:55 PM
No, my mind, body and soul has been lifted of the curse because unlike my ancestors and so many of us today I have learn not to embrace the religion of the heathens around about me, I have learn to accept GOD and GOD only and love the fact that my knowledge and love grows for HIM each day. I have learned to put GODs Specific Words above all and found that it is only respect. I have learned that I do have a GOD even though everyday I see heathens that have stolen my people’s history and living my life. But all they do is fulfill the Word.

Hosea:1:10: Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

It is not my mind that is cursed, it is yours because you continue to accept and believe in the statement the heathens make to you every time they show you a white man claiming to be the original people of the Old Testaments. Your mind continues to be trapped in the (Ye are not my people) statement.

To bad you cant see that our entire existence evolves around Specific Sayings of GOD.
I'm curious, who are the heathens around you?

Music Producer
08-31-2004, 09:26 PM
I'm curious, who are the heathens around you?
According to the Old Testaments there are only two types of people on this earth, those that serve GOD and GOD only and those that do not. Those that do not would be heathens.

Sekhemu
09-01-2004, 04:54 AM
According to the Old Testaments there are only two types of people on this earth, those that serve GOD and GOD only and those that do not. Those that do not would be heathens.


Don't dance around the question. are you refering to the people on this site as heathens or not. I didn't ask you what the scripture says.

Music Producer
09-01-2004, 08:47 AM
Don't dance around the question. are you refering to the people on this site as heathens or not. I didn't ask you what the scripture says.I believe in the Old Testaments, I believe in that GOD. Anyone who doesn’t believe in and worship the GOD of Israel only, is a Heathen. I am not clear as to how everybody on this forum worships, so I am referring to anybody that doesn’t believe in the GOD of the Old Testaments.

This is no different then servants of Jesus saying if you don’t serve their Jesus then you are going to hell or you are the antichrist or what ever.

IssaEl21
09-01-2004, 03:09 PM
I believe in the Old Testaments, I believe in that GOD. Anyone who doesn’t believe in and worship the GOD of Israel only, is a Heathen. I am not clear as to how everybody on this forum worships, so I am referring to anybody that doesn’t believe in the GOD of the Old Testaments.

This is no different then servants of Jesus saying if you don’t serve their Jesus then you are going to hell or you are the antichrist or what ever.


Your Not Even Man Enough To Standup Amd Admit Your Saying Anyone Who Doesn't Believe & Accept The Garbage That Coming Out Of Your Mouth Are Heathen . This Is Not The First Time You Have Said This . Again I Say ... I See You're Really Brian Dead , And You Have No Control Of Your Own Thoughts . And You Must Be Living In Some Institution And Using The Computer While Everyone Sleep . Because No Way Anyone Would Let You Write Such Mindness Though's , About The Scriptures Or History For That Matter , Because You Know Nothing About Neither . < Here's A Verse That Fits A Person Like YourSelf John 8 ; 44 You Are Of Your < Father > The < Devil > And The Lust Of Your Father Ye < Will > Do . He Was A < Murderer >
From The Beginning And < Abode > Not In The < Truth > Because There Is No < Truth > In Him < When He Speaketh A Lie He Speaketh Of HisOwn For He Is A Liar . And The Father Of It >
By The Way I'm Writeing A Post On What Does The Word Soul Mean , In Case You Though I Forgot , You Couldn't Even Get That Write . :geek:

Music Producer
09-01-2004, 04:46 PM
Your Not Even Man Enough To Standup Amd Admit Your Saying Anyone Who Doesn't Believe & Accept The Garbage That Coming Out Of Your Mouth Are Heathen . This Is Not The First Time You Have Said This . Again I Say ... I See You're Really Brian Dead , And You Have No Control Of Your Own Thoughts . And You Must Be Living In Some Institution And Using The Computer While Everyone Sleep . Because No Way Anyone Would Let You Write Such Mindness Though's , About The Scriptures Or History For That Matter , Because You Know Nothing About Neither . < Here's A Verse That Fits A Person Like YourSelf John 8 ; 44 You Are Of Your < Father > The < Devil > And The Lust Of Your Father Ye < Will > Do . He Was A < Murderer >
From The Beginning And < Abode > Not In The < Truth > Because There Is No < Truth > In Him < When He Speaketh A Lie He Speaketh Of HisOwn For He Is A Liar . And The Father Of It >
By The Way I'm Writeing A Post On What Does The Word Soul Mean , In Case You Though I Forgot , You Couldn't Even Get That Write . :geek:And here is a passage to describe you…

Isa:8:20: To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.


That passage falls within the prophesy of Immanuel. It is referring to those that ignore the specific teachings of GOD. It is referring to those that define Jesus outside of or contrary to the GOD given definition of Jesus. It is referring to those that put the words of Peter, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Mathew and Jesus over and above the Specific Words of GOD. It is referring to those that do not perceive religion or the Kingdom of GOD as GOD has Spoken and Explained it.

You asked me what is a soul and I showed you one passage showing you an Action of GOD ALMIGHTY that explains what a soul is and now you want to explain what a soul is. For people that believe in GOD, that one passage would have been enough and explained it all, but you feel you need to show your knowledge of what a soul is.

Let me ask you a question. When did you become more intelligent then GOD?

My belief system is based on Specific Sayings and Actions of GOD only, it will usually be marked with the statement of, “Thus saith the LORD” or it is written in first person. You believe system is based on flesh. If you can’t find for me where GOD Himself explains to the reader that HIS Son would be the Messiah, then your entire concept of the Kingdom of GOD is based on the words of flesh; you have chosen that over the Words of GOD.

The garbage that’s coming out of my mouth…..

Well, what have I posted in which I have not supported with the Specific sayings of GOD? If I have posted religious doctrine in which I failed to support with GOD then I will agree, it is garbage. But be advised 90% of your posts are without GOD also. Just like that little statement there by John. You may be able to give those worshippers of John good feeling or good tidings but I know John ain’t GOD.

What did Jesus save you from?

Sekhemu
09-01-2004, 04:46 PM
I believe in the Old Testaments, I believe in that GOD. Anyone who doesn’t believe in and worship the GOD of Israel only, is a Heathen. I am not clear as to how everybody on this forum worships, so I am referring to anybody that doesn’t believe in the GOD of the Old Testaments.

This is no different then servants of Jesus saying if you don’t serve their Jesus then you are going to hell or you are the antichrist or what ever.

So you are saying that anyone on this forum, the Majority I would Imagine.... that does not subsrcribe to your religious interpretations of the old testament, are heathens? And if we are heathens as you say, why are you on this forum in the first place, why do you indulge us?

Afterall you claim to understand the old testament better than any member here!

Music Producer
09-01-2004, 05:10 PM
So you are saying that anyone on this forum, the Majority I would Imagine.... that does not subsrcribe to your religious interpretations of the old testament, are heathens? And if we are heathens as you say, why are you on this forum in the first place, why do you indulge us?

Afterall you claim to understand the old testament better than any member here!I don’t know what the majority of the people on this forum believe. But here is a test to see if you are a heathen. I will show you multiple statements in which it is not possible to believe in all and continue to have a stable foundation of faith.

Isa:44:24: Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Eph:3:9: And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

QAF
[50.38] And certainly We created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods and there touched Us not any fatigue.


Which do you believe?

Here is another..


Mt:3:17: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Rv:22:16: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Which do you believe?

If you have chosen to believe all of the statements or believe in the ones in which GOD is not explaining or believe in none of them, then you are a heathen.

Sekhemu
09-01-2004, 05:29 PM
I don’t know what the majority of the people on this forum believe. But here is a test to see if you are a heathen. I will show you multiple statements in which it is not possible to believe in all and continue to have a stable foundation of faith.

Isa:44:24: Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Eph:3:9: And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

QAF
[50.38] And certainly We created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods and there touched Us not any fatigue.


Which do you believe?

Here is another..


Mt:3:17: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Rv:22:16: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Which do you believe?

If you have chosen to believe all of the statements or believe in the ones in which GOD is not explaining or believe in none of them, then you are a heathen.


It is obvious that your beliefs are in the majority on this site. this was borne out last week when you ran out of the voice chat because you didn't want to hear about Neely Fuller unless he talked about your beliefs regarding scripture

Now if you have the ba*#s why don't you start a thread asking the members of this site whether or not they are heathens based on there belief in God? I doubt you'll do it though

Sekhemu
09-01-2004, 05:36 PM
you still haven't answered my question, why are you here if nobody on this thread agrees with your religious beliefs?

Aqil
09-01-2004, 09:07 PM
And I mean ABSOLUTELY NOBODY! :laugh:

Music Producer
09-01-2004, 09:59 PM
It is obvious that your beliefs are in the majority on this site. this was borne out last week when you ran out of the voice chat because you didn't want to hear about Neely Fuller unless he talked about your beliefs regarding scripture

Now if you have the ba*#s why don't you start a thread asking the members of this site whether or not they are heathens based on there belief in God? I doubt you'll do it thoughI didn’t run out of the voice chat because of that, I left the voice chat because he has good ideas but doesn’t give any direction, he didn’t give purpose. He talks about how we should focus or energy or concentrate on an objective but he never defined an objective. To me personally he just kept repeating what needs to go into an objective but never defined it.

As for asking anyone; if they are a heathen, is an invalid question because you are assuming they know what a heathen is. You could ask every servant of Jesus if they are a heathen and they would say, no. So it is up to each individual person to determine that through answering the questions as to what do you believe as to the GOD given information and the none-GOD given information. And if you are unable to answer the question, then you probably lean more towards being a heathen because you are unable to choose between GOD and something else. So, you are correct, I will not start a thread asking people if they are a heathen.

Music Producer
09-01-2004, 10:05 PM
you still haven't answered my question, why are you here if nobody on this thread agrees with your religious beliefs?
17: Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18: When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19: Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20: Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21: Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

IssaEl21
09-01-2004, 10:37 PM
And here is a passage to describe you…

Isa:8:20: To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.


That passage falls within the prophesy of Immanuel. It is referring to those that ignore the specific teachings of GOD. It is referring to those that define Jesus outside of or contrary to the GOD given definition of Jesus. It is referring to those that put the words of Peter, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Mathew and Jesus over and above the Specific Words of GOD. It is referring to those that do not perceive religion or the Kingdom of GOD as GOD has Spoken and Explained it.

You asked me what is a soul and I showed you one passage showing you an Action of GOD ALMIGHTY that explains what a soul is and now you want to explain what a soul is. For people that believe in GOD, that one passage would have been enough and explained it all, but you feel you need to show your knowledge of what a soul is.

Let me ask you a question. When did you become more intelligent then GOD?

My belief system is based on Specific Sayings and Actions of GOD only, it will usually be marked with the statement of, “Thus saith the LORD” or it is written in first person. You believe system is based on flesh. If you can’t find for me where GOD Himself explains to the reader that HIS Son would be the Messiah, then your entire concept of the Kingdom of GOD is based on the words of flesh; you have chosen that over the Words of GOD.

The garbage that’s coming out of my mouth…..

Well, what have I posted in which I have not supported with the Specific sayings of GOD? If I have posted religious doctrine in which I failed to support with GOD then I will agree, it is garbage. But be advised 90% of your posts are without GOD also. Just like that little statement there by John. You may be able to give those worshippers of John good feeling or good tidings but I know John ain’t GOD.

What did Jesus save you from?

You Speak Of The Light Hummmmm AnyOne With A Little Intelligent Know That Light Blinds . If I OverStand What Your Saysing , Your Saysing I'm In Darkness Yes ?....Now Let's See If Darkness Is Evil . It depends on which point of viewyou see it from , the religious point of view or the Scientific point of view , LQQking as it from the religious point of view , Darkness is considered Evil , and Chaos , and Light isconsidered Good and Knowledge That's The Caucasians Canaanite point of view Their Racism . White Good And Black Bad But As You Can See They Lied , They Are Wrong , LQQking at it from the scientific point of view , Light Is Considered Chaoe And Darkness Is Considered Good , If You Sit In A Dark Room , You Feel At Peace , Just As You Were In Your Mothers Womb . You Felt Secure , HowEver , As Soon As You Turn On The Light , You GIVE Birth To Chaos , For The World Was InA State Of Peace AndDarkness , Before The Eloheem ( Gods ) Turned On The Light , Then Gave Birth To Caucasians The Curse Seed Of Canaan / Canaaite Genesis 9 ; 25 <<< And he said Cursed be Canaan a servant of Servants shall he be unto his brethren , Also Read Genesis 10; 15 - 18 ... Which Have Been Causing Havoc And Evil Since The Beginning Of Time ,, Job 1 ; 7 << And the Lord said unto Satan Whence comest thou ? Then Satan answer the Lord , and said , From going to and Fro in the Earth and from walking up and down . in it ..Also Read Proverbs 22 ; 15 ...Darkness Has Become A Tool Of A Race Of People Who Want To Make All Other Of Colour Feel INFERIOR , Using The Devil Through Fear And Scare Tactice , The Unseen World , The Spirit , The Spook And The Ghost , Even Your Version Of The Bible Says God Was In Darkness First , Or Moves In Darkness Genesis 1 ; 2 <<< And the earth Was Without Form and void and Darkness was upon the face of the deep , And the Spirit Of God Moved Upon The Face Of The Waters . ... You Have From The Darkness Eloheem ( Gods ) , Came The Light Sun A Star Jehovah , The Lord , Don't Fear I We Worship The Most High God Elyon Al Genesis 14 ; 18 ..
When I Ask You The Question What Was A Soul . I Knew BeFor Hand You Would Give Me That Quote , And That Because You Don't Know The Answer ; I Ask You Once Before What Kindergarten Store Are You Geting This Garbage From . I Say This Because Your In A State Ignorance Beyond Repair = To Put Back Into Proper Or UseFul Condition FIX ! And Your Right I'm Very Knowledgeable ABOUT SOME THINGS , And AnyOne Who Accept That Sillyness You Call YourSelf Teaching Is In A State Of LOST . You Ask The Question <<< When did you become more intelligent then GOD? >>> According To Your Own Scriptures I' Am A Eloheem And I Quore Psalm 82 ; 1 And I Quote God Standeth In The Congregation Of The Mighty He Judge Among The Gods ;... Again Yahuwa Of The Eloheem Say In Verse 6 . I Have Said, Ye Are Gods ; And All Of You Are Children Of The Most High . ;.... Also Yashua Whom You Love So Much Says In John 10 ; 34 - 35 And I Quoe . Jesus Answers Them Is It Not Written IN YOUR LAW . I Said Ye Are Gods ? If He Called Them Gods . Unto Whom The Word Of God Came , And The Scripture Cannot Be Broken ;.... But This Is Not To Say I'm More Intelligent Then Yahuwa Of The , Eloheems , It Mean Yahuwa Give Knowledge To Whom He Please , I Rather Have The Knowledge Of Yahuwa Of The Eloheem . Then Walking In The SoCall Light That Have Blinded You . And Have Curse Your Tongue , For Speaking Evil Of His Son Yashua Calling Him The Devil ...
Belief Is Ignorance . Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point ) . The Children Of Yahuwa Of The Eloheem Will Have / Know The Truth , And Will Not Have Wait Until They Die . To Know The Truth .
And As Far As What I Post 98 % Of Them Go UnChallenge , And That Because Most Here Haven't Seen Knowledge Like This Before , Or If They Have They Haven't Spoke On It YET ;... And You Have Some Say You Don't Need Knowledge Of There Belief And All One Need Is Salvation . Those Are The One Being Fool , By People Like YourSelf . And Thats Because That Haven't Realize The Power / Weight That The Word Belief / Believe Have In Their House Of Worship . And The Fear Of Being Called A Names Like Devil Etc ....
You Ask <<< What did Jesus save you from? >> I 'Am A Man And A Man Is Responsible For His Own Action. = Deuteronomy 24 ; 16 ;...Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin. Then This Commandment Was Repeated Through The Bible .
2Chronicles 25 ; 4 ;... Yet he did not put their sons to death, but acted in accordance with what is written in the Law, in the Book of Moses, where the LORD commanded: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins .2Kings 14 ; 6 ;...Yet he did not put the sons of the assassins to death, in accordance with what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses where the LORD commanded: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins." Ezekiel 18; 20 ;...The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.

< Music Producer I Have Read Some Of The Post By The Brother's LQQK Like You Have Step In Some S*** Mix Peanut Butter < LaughingBigTimeHere > So You Ran Out Of The Chat With You Tail Between Your Legs Because You Couldn't Deal With The Truth Laughinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Sekhemu
09-02-2004, 04:47 AM
I didn’t run out of the voice chat because of that, I left the voice chat because he has good ideas but doesn’t give any direction, he didn’t give purpose. He talks about how we should focus or energy or concentrate on an objective but he never defined an objective. To me personally he just kept repeating what needs to go into an objective but never defined it.

As for asking anyone; if they are a heathen, is an invalid question because you are assuming they know what a heathen is. You could ask every servant of Jesus if they are a heathen and they would say, no. So it is up to each individual person to determine that through answering the questions as to what do you believe as to the GOD given information and the none-GOD given information. And if you are unable to answer the question, then you probably lean more towards being a heathen because you are unable to choose between GOD and something else. So, you are correct, I will not start a thread asking people if they are a heathen.

Nice way of weasling out of this one! You are the one that brought up the issue of being surrounded by heathens. So why are you gonna punk out now. Nobody came here talking about accepting Jesus or being damned to hell, so that's a moot issue.

Why would I answer your question, I thought it was obvious I do not accept your religion and/or interpretation of scripture.

I asked you if you would start a thread to ask the members of this forum if they believe they were heathens. Based on your beliefs. But you cop out of that one. Be a man, not a mouse.

As far as you leaving voice chat because you claim he had no direction. another lie. You left because he didn't emphasize your belief concerning your old testament. Because you found you had no wins there

LIke Aqil said. Every time you post you lie :nono:

Sekhemu
09-02-2004, 04:53 AM
17: Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18: When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19: Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20: Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21: Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.



Like I said who appointed you religious police, Once again. Aqil was on point, nobody, absolutely nobody shares your religious beliefs, but you're not man enough to admit that

IssaEl21
10-17-2004, 06:18 AM
A soul is a Breath of GOD.


Gen:2:7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


From The Time You Were Born , Whether Young Or Old , You've Heard Or Used The Word '' Spirit '' And '' Soul '' Interchangeably For Something Felt Deep Down Inside . My Spirits Are High ; Or My Spirit Is Weak ; I Mean It From My Heart And Soul ; Or This Is Coming From The Depths Of My Soul ; HowEver , When You Use These Expressions , Do You Know What You Are Really Saying? Yet On The Other Hand , The Same Word '' Spirit '' And '' Soul '' Are Also Used When Speaking About Something Existing Or Lingering On After A Person Has Died , Which Is Referred To As Ghost Or Spooks . When These Terminologies Are Used , Do You Actually Know What They Mean ? This Is The Sole Purpose Of Me Writteing This Post . To Help You OverStand Soul And Spirit By Telling You What A Soul And Spirit IS NOT ;.....All Of The Interpretations Given To You By Various Religious Leader Have Gotten Thousands Of People Caught Up In What Is Called Spookism , The Belief In Spooks , Ghosts , And Goblins , Things That Only Exist In Myths . Legends And Fables , Belief In Spookism Take You Away From The Reality Of Life's True Essence And The Real Truth Of Life's Existence . Its Time To Put Away These Myths And Legends And Deal With The Facts Of What A Soul And Spirit Really Is Which Bring Us To The First Question . What Is A Soul . The Word Soul Is Used More By Religious People Than By Anybody Else . It Is Religious Groups That Constantly Speak About A Soul And Spirit , And What Is Sad Is That If You LQQk In Each Religion's Holy Books ; Torah The Old Testament Genesis 17 ; 14 . The New Testament Matthew 12 ; 18 As Well As The Quraan 4 ; 171 . You Will See That They Mistranslat And Misuse The Word '' Soul '' Intentionally . The Soul Or Spirit Is Not Some Ghost Like Apparition Or Some Spiritual Being Like Painting Pictures , Statues And Television Have You Thinking . Here Is An Example Of How The Word Soul Has Been Mistranslated . Can Be Found In Genesis 1 ;2 And I Quote , And The Earth Was Without Form , And Void ; And Darkness Was Upon The Face Of The Deep . And The Spirit Of God Moved Upon TheFace Of The Waters Take A LQQk At The Hebrew Word Ruwach Meaning . Wind Breath , Mind , Also In The Quraan 70 ; 4 Where It States And I Quote . Whereby , All The Heavenly Host The Soul ( Jesus Christ ) Shall Elevate Unto Him In A Day Whose Length Is Fifty Thousand Years .
In Arabic , The Word Ruwh Is Used Meaning , Breath Of Life Soul . Now This Is How The Confusion Starts , Why Would They Translate The Word Rooakh In HebrewOr Ruwh In Arabic As Spirit When In Actuality The Word Spirit Is Nafs In Arabic And Nefesh In Hebrew? Either It Was Deliberately Done Or The People Who Translated It Do Not Know The Language Nor Do They Know That There Is A Difference Between Spirit And Soul Themselves . Clarke's Bible Commentary Shows TheExact Point I'm Making Here . In Genesis1 ;24 It States , AndI Quote '' All God Said , Let The Earth Bring Forth The Living Creature After His Kind ...
'' Let the earth bring forth the living creature nephesh hayyum ; a general term to express all creatures endued with animal life .
Clarke's Bibl Commentary . Volume I . Genesis - Deuteronomy .
Now In This Verse It Says '' Living Creature '' And Translates As Nefesh Hayyum In Hebrew . Here Clarke Is Uncertain Of The Correct Definition Of Nefesh Spirit And Ruwach Soul . Yet , In Genesis 1 ; 2 As Previously Stated , He Translates '' Spirit Of God '' . Based On The Hebrew Word Ruwach . The Spirit Of God ; This Has Been Variously And Strangely UnderStand . Some Think A Violent Wind Is Meant . Because Ruach Often Signifies Wind As Well As Spirit , As Pneuma Does In The Greek .
Clarke's Bible Commentary . Volume I . Genesis - Deuteronomy .
Also Lane Arabic - English Lexicon Defines Ruwh As ; The Soul , Spirit , Or Vital Principal . ; Syn ; ( But There Is A Difference Between These Two Words . For They Are Not Always Interchangeable ,
However , The Greek Translation Shows The Following Definitions Of Spirit And Soul ; Psuch / Soul . Life Mind ; The Breath Of Life ; The Vital Force Which Animates The Body And Shows Itself In Breathing Which Can Be Found In Mark 8 ; 36 And I Quote For What Shall It Profit A Man . If He Shall Gain The Whole World , And Lose His Own Soul ?

Pneuma ; Spirit ; A Movement Of Air ( A Gentle Blaste ) ; The Spirit , The Vital Principal By Which The Body Is Animated ; TheRational Spirit Which Can Be Found In Matthew 3 ;16 And I Quote . And Jesus When He Was Baptized , Went Up Straightway Out Of The Water ; And Lo . The Heavens Were Opened Unto Him And He Saw The Spirit Of God Descending Like A Dove , And Lighting Upon Him

So , The Problem Of Overstanding The Difference Between Spirit And Soul Is Not From The Person Reading The Scriptures , It Stems From The Translator . Your Religious Leaders Are At Fault Because They Don't Know Any Other Language And Therefore Have To Rely On These Mistranslations . Even If What They Read Doesn't Make Sense To Them They Will Still Relay It To Hundreds Of Thousands Of Their Followers Believing Without A Doubt That This Translated Scriptures Is Correct . Let's Further Examine The Word Ruwh In Arabic From The Root Raha Which Means '' It Was Violently Windy ''
Other Derivatives Are In Arabic ;
Reeh <> ( n ) wind , fart , smell , odor
Rayyah <> ( adf ) , a gentle wind
Ruwh <> ( n ) breath of life , soul
Al Ruwhul Quwdus <> ( n ) the holy soul

And In Hebrew The Root Of Ruwach , Means '' To Blow Breathe ..
Other Derivaltives Are In Hebrew
Ruwach <> mind , spirit , wind
Ruwach <> Wind by resemblance breath , a sensible ( or even violent ) exhalation ; life, anger unsubstantiality ; a region in thesky ; by resemblance spirit . but only of a rational being ( its expression and functions ) ; air anger . blast breath , cool . courage . mind quarter , side , spirit , tempest , vain , ( whirl wind ) . :nightowl:

LibertyLady
10-17-2004, 01:38 PM
mmm this is verry interessting ...




i will come back on this topic to respond ...
cause i have to sit and take my time to read and respond...



but music .......


you said some good things.....

IssaEl21
10-24-2004, 02:12 AM
According to Genesis 2 ; 7 , upon the procreation of Adam God Blew his soul into Adam , And I Quote ; And the Lord < Yehovah > God < elohiym > formed
< yatsar > man < adam > of the dust < aphar > of Nm < min > the ground
< adamah > and breathed < naphach > into his nostrils < aph > the breath
< neshamah > of life < chay > and man < adam > became a living < chay > soul
< nephesh >
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground , and breathed into his nostrlis the breath of life ; and man became a living soul ;...
The soul is called the breath ( Genesis 6 ; 17 , John 1 ; 4 ) .
Bible - Old Testament Genesis 6 ; 17 ( with Hebrew inserts )
And , behold < hinneh > . I < aniy > , even I . do bring < bow > a flood
< mabbuwl > of water < mayim > upon the earth < erets > , to destroy
< shachath > all flesh < basar > wherein in the breath < ruwach > of life < chay >
from under < tachath > heaven < shamayim > and every thing < kol > that is in the earth < erets > shall die < gava >
And , behold , I , even I , do bring a flood of water upon the earth , to destroy all flesh , wherein is the breath of life , from under heaven ; and every thing that isin the eath shall die .
Bible - Old Tesament John 1 ; 4 ( with Greek Inserts )
In < en > him < auntos > was < en . life < zoe > and < kai > was < en > the light
< phos > of men < anthropos >
In him was life ; and the life was the light of men
And now if you recall '' ruwach '' isdefined as '' wind '' and wind is also breath as you've previously read . So the Lord God or as translated in Hebrw , '' Yahweh Eloheem '' gave him ( Adam ) the breath of divine life and Adam was born a spirit ( Genesis 2 ; 7) .
The Quraan 32 ; 9 Also states he '' breathed '' from his soul , And I Quote
The < thum - ma > He fashioned him < saw waa hu > and < wa > breathed
< na fa ka > into him < fee he > of < min . His spirit < rew he he > and < wa > gave < ja a la > you < lakum > the ability to hear < as sa ma a > and < wa > see the inner sight ( the discerning mind ) < al ab ssar > and < wa > inner hearts
( emotions ) < af e da ta > a little < qa lee lan > yet you only than him
< tas ka room > ( Ps 104 ; 30 , 148 ; 5 ) .
Then He fashioned him breathed into him of His spirits and gave you the ability to hear and see , and the inner sight ( the discerning mind ) . and inner hearts ( emotions ) ; yet , you only thank him a little ( Ps 104 ; 30 , 148 ; 5 ) .
So the ruwach '' soul '' is likened to the wind that is felt when it blows , but isn't seen John 3 ; 8 And I Quote , The wind < pneuma > bloweth < pneo > where
< hopou > it listeth < thelo > , and < kai > thou hearest < akouo > the sound
< phone > thereof < autos > , but < alla > canst < eido > not < ou > tell < eido>
whence < pothen > . it cometh < erchomai > , and < kai > whither < pou > it goeth < hupago > so < houto > is < esti > every one < pas > that is born
< gennao > of < ek > the Spirit < pneuma > ( with Greek Inserts ) ..
The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof , but canst not tell whence it cometh , and whither it goeth ; so is every one that is born of the Spirit .
The soul is the ether , life force within you and is the source of vitality of life for all forms . The soul is therefore the nature of the inner part of man :nightowl:

1hotvirgowoman
12-09-2004, 02:50 PM
I believe that the Devil is a Spirit. Only Angels and other Spirits were allowed up there in Heaven with Jah. Furthermore, it was said in the Bible that before Satan became Satan, he was Beautiful Spirit. The name of the scripture where it was brought out escapes me at the moment but I'll get back to yas' when I find it. At one point in time, Satan along with his hoard of fallen Angels, DID in fact materialize themselves into Super Beings in order to have sexual relations with the Women on Earth. Their intercourse with these Women produced Nephilims(spell check), super-crazy Giants who terrorized the short, weak humans. God saw to it that these Freaks of Nature were done away with. Thus, you have "The FLOOD".........

$$RICH$$
10-30-2006, 05:43 AM
The devil is what it is destruction and the other half of goodness a plague he is form through the human souls which he live
to motal minds . Although he has persuaded many people in our modern world that he doesn't even exist, Satan very definitely is a real, personal being, the fountainhead of all unbelief and of every kind of moral and spiritual evil in the world. He is called by various names in the Bible, including Satan (meaning, “adversary”—Job 1:6; Romans 16:20; etc.), the devil (i.e., “slanderer”—Matthew 4:1; 1 Peter 5:8; etc.), Lucifer (Isaiah 14:12), the serpent (2 Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 12:9; etc.), and many others.
before man and the world were made, God had created an “innumerable company of angels” (Hebrews 12:22), a heavenly host of spiritual beings, of great strength and intelligence. The highest of these beings are the cherubim, who are attendants at the very throne of God, and the “anointed cherub that covereth” that throne was originally Satan himself (Ezekiel 28:14). He was “full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.”The root of all sin, in both man and angels, is the twin sin of unbelief and pride—the refusal to submit to God’s will as revealed by His own Word and the accompanying assertion of self-sufficiency which enthrones the creature and his own will in the place of God. This was the original sin of Satan, rejecting God’s Word and trying to become God himself. He said in his heart: “I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: . . . I will be like the most High” (Isaiah 14:13,14). and he said unto him " I'll tame more souls then you" Through my will of thinking i am the GOD !
Millions of people think that the Devil is a figment of human imagination; a non-existent being akin to hobgoblins and elves. They are mistaken.
the Devil exists and is more active today than he ever was in the past. Let us now consider this evil spirit: for, believe it or not, of all the enemies the human race has, he is the most dangerous.
The Devil was originally a holy arch angel of light called Lucifer! He is a being of astonishing beauty, intelligence and power. He was one of the two original "covering cherubs" who stood in the very presence of Yahweh the Creator. The Devil was in Eden at the creation of the world. The Devil was symbolised by a 'serpent' who tempted our first parents to mistrust the Almighty and break His commandment. Though he has existed for thousands of years, the Devil is not immortal, his time is short. The Bible tells us that the Devil knows that his time is running out; that he is scheduled to be judged, found guilty and burned to ashes in the sight of the redeemed. The Devil knows all these facts better than we do. The following Biblical passages tell us about Lucifer the Devil, the king of Tyrus (an ancient city of Phoenicia where money for business transactions was first used) who merely symbolised the Devil, the arch enemy of the human race.
known to have been cast down unto earth which he walks within the human souls to join him be of him and sin as him .

Black People | Black | Black Chat | Black Poetry | Destee


Destee Copyright 2006 Black People