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Just a question to all members of the board.

Music Producer
08-16-2004, 09:12 AM
Should one be educated about their own faith?

If so, why?

Radical Faith
08-16-2004, 11:16 AM
Should one be educated about their own faith?

If so, why?

This question is not that simple. One's faith caters to a particular need in their lives that satisfies some sort of desire or yearning. For example some people are in search of the truth. Some feel the need to be avenged in some way. Some need to feel loved. While some people feel the need for belonging. No matter, desire drives people to their faith. It's sort of like wearing shoes. Though the shoe may be attractive and the lastest trend the shoe still must fit and be comfortable if one plans on walking in them for a long time. One may try on several pair of shoe before they find the right shoe. Comfort is what you feel not what know. Not all size 11 shoes are comfortable to size 11 feet. So my point is faith starts on the inside of each person and then is substanciated by the faith's dotrine.


Peace

Radical Faith

IssaEl21
08-16-2004, 12:25 PM
Should one be educated about their own faith?

If so, why?

Yes , A Child Goes To School The Learn The Three '' R's'' OverStand , And When A Child Take A Test His Or Her Teacher , Wants An Answer She Or Her Doesn't Want To Know If The Child Believe He/ she Has The Right Answer Nor Does The Teacher Give Them A Grade Them On What They're Belief / Faith Is . They Are Graded On The Right Answer . And The Right Answer Take Time Studying ReSEARCHING For The Right Answer To Past These Test . This Way They Can And Will Be Able To TakeCare Self And Family . FAITH / HOPE / BELIEF / Doesn't Pay The Bill's . If More Nubian's Were Educated . Just Think How Powerful As A People We Would Be , And The Jail Would Be Filled With Our Brother & Sister . Because Their No Limit To What A Nubian Could Do And Be . So Why Shouldn't He Be With One Faith / Belief Unless They Are To Lazsyyy . No Intelligence Person Going To Put Their Faith / Belief / Soul... Into ANY Belief System . Without Having Knowledge Of It , Unless Their Just LQQking For A Crutch. Belief Is To Ignore The Facts Intentionally Or Ignorantly , If One Has To Believe , It Means He Or She Does Not Know . And If One Does Not Know , That Is Ignorance . Hence Belief Is Ignorance And Religious Belief WithOut The Facts Is Ignorance , ( Got The Point ) . Not Only That Most Only Have Faith / Belief . Not Knowing What They Have Faith / Belief In .... Other Then What They Are Told To Have Belief And Faith In .. By Their Teachers ... And This Is Why SOME FEAR BEING QUESTION BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEIR TEACHING REALLY SAYING OR ABOUT ..... SO YES TO YOU QUESTION IT A MUST TO BE KNOWLEDGE-ABLE ABOUT ONE BELIEF / FAITH

toylin
08-22-2004, 01:41 PM
I believe that whatever a person's faith, a person should always know the history/rational behind it. Too many people hide behind religion, spouting half-truths and incorrect sayings when they fell threatened. More often than not, the people who feel most threatened by another person's faith are usually ones who do not know enough about their own... IMO.

IssaEl21
08-22-2004, 03:19 PM
I believe that whatever a person's faith, a person should always know the history/rational behind it. Too many people hide behind religion, spouting half-truths and incorrect sayings when they fell threatened. More often than not, the people who feel most threatened by another person's faith are usually ones who do not know enough about their own... IMO.
Amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn To That

Sekhmet
09-06-2004, 10:50 AM
Couldn't agree with you more on that Toylin!!!

toylin
09-06-2004, 11:16 AM
Well, seriously. I do some theological studying on my own (I feel strangely compelled to do this).. my ex husband was so threatened by it that we used to fight about it. He told me i was going to hell for even reading about other faiths, and said that he'd pray for my soul. When i asked him why did he believe what he does (his family is Pentacostal), he said that he kind of believes it's the Truth, but he's scared of going to hell, so he's not going to question it. :oops:

So, I always say that I don't believe in blind faith. I truely believe that you should always read the fine print, and know exactly what you're agreeing to before you get baptized/take shahada/go through the ritual ceremonies......

MrBlak
09-06-2004, 11:53 AM
One should be educated about their faith on their own time...as long as it dont interfere with schooling to prepare them for the world, they should be allowed to learn all they want about religion from mom and dad or who ever.

Sekhemu
09-06-2004, 04:59 PM
It depends on who is qualified to do the educating!

Music Producer
09-06-2004, 08:54 PM
It depends on who is qualified to do the educating!Why would knowledge of your religious beliefs be dependant on another person besides you? Are you being fair to yourself? Shouldn’t we all follow a god that exist in a way in which that god is capable of educating?

Sekhemu
09-07-2004, 06:56 PM
Why would knowledge of your religious beliefs be dependant on another person besides you? Are you being fair to yourself? Shouldn’t we all follow a god that exist in a way in which that god is capable of educating?



You claim to follow what was writen by god not man. What God and of who? Your very own religious beliefs are based on what another person wrote and taught, other than yourself. Namely Moses(an Egyptian Initiate) and since when did God use a pen and a pad :laugh: Clearly knowledge of your belief is dependant on someone other than yourself

Who do you think you are fooling with this mess. you are here to try to convert people to your religion. So be a man and admit it. So who is we, only you believe in your doctrine and it's interpretation. How many times do I have to tell you this. Oh that's right, I forgot you have to keep trying to come at the forum using different ruses because after all you do have an agenda

"Shouldn't we all follow a God that exist in a way in which that god is capable of educating?" not neccesarily, first of all who is this God you are referring to, who determines whether or not this God "exist" and under what criteria. and lastly what is this God teaching. Is he teaching what the Gnostics wrote about the God Yadabaoth, if so, the answer is no.... Hell No

deepy
09-07-2004, 09:48 PM
if you asked me a question about my faith ( i am assuming you mean my religious affiliation and not " faith") it would be nice to answer you...I can only do that if i know something about it to reply.
Or I can communicate with you about my "faith"..and I am educated about that through life experience...

Music Producer
09-07-2004, 10:50 PM
You claim to follow what was writen by god not man. What God and of who? Your very own religious beliefs are based on what another person wrote and taught, other than yourself. Namely Moses(an Egyptian Initiate) and since when did God use a pen and a pad :laugh: Clearly knowledge of your belief is dependant on someone other than yourself

Who do you think you are fooling with this mess. you are here to try to convert people to your religion. So be a man and admit it. So who is we, only you believe in your doctrine and it's interpretation. How many times do I have to tell you this. Oh that's right, I forgot you have to keep trying to come at the forum using different ruses because after all you do have an agenda

"Shouldn't we all follow a God that exist in a way in which that god is capable of educating?" not neccesarily, first of all who is this God you are referring to, who determines whether or not this God "exist" and under what criteria. and lastly what is this God teaching. Is he teaching what the Gnostics wrote about the God Yadabaoth, if so, the answer is no.... Hell NoIf the writings are expressed in a way that shows GOD HIMSELF saying them or actions showing GOD HIMSELF committing to them then that is what I account as Holy or Divine information or knowledge. Vary, vary few books that were written in those days contain writings of any god in this format. That fact alone would peak an intelligent persons curiosity as to, is that a divine act or prelude to what we call a miracle?

You show or bring me a book, not just bits a pieces of one but a whole book that was written in those days that show a god speaking, conversing, teaching and committing to actions and we; no, I, will take a look at it and study it in the same manner as I have done with the Old Testaments. Good luck in finding one.

Convert people? No, not me, what would I be converting people too? Have I named a religion that I am part of, NO. Have I named a group that I am part of, NO. So what am I trying to convert people too? Following and paying more attention to GOD, well, I would be guilty of that. But I think one would be better off asking them self, why do they resist?

The GOD I am referring to is the GOD of the Hebrews, don’t look at HIM as being the GOD of the Jews that exist today, that is one of the ways they have taught you to resist. Look at HIM as being the GOD of our ancestors. And as for Gnostic teachings, is GOD HIMSELF informing you or is it written in a form that expresses GOD HIMSELF as saying it or doing it? If not, then it is not of GOD.

That’s the bottom line and that’s how you can distinguish rather or not a works or phrase is of GOD or not. If there is a GOD and if we all come before that GOD, I don’t think that GOD is going to be interested in what man has taught you. I think that GOD will be interested in what HE has taught you and what you have retained as a student as a human being. And if you have learned nothing, you come right back to earth to start the process all over again. And you will repeat this until you begin to learn and understand GOD.
:deal:

Sekhemu
09-08-2004, 04:40 AM
If the writings are expressed in a way that shows GOD HIMSELF saying them or actions showing GOD HIMSELF committing to them then that is what I account as Holy or Divine information or knowledge. Vary, vary few books that were written in those days contain writings of any god in this format. That fact alone would peak an intelligent persons curiosity as to, is that a divine act or prelude to what we call a miracle?

You show or bring me a book, not just bits a pieces of one but a whole book that was written in those days that show a god speaking, conversing, teaching and committing to actions and we; no, I, will take a look at it and study it in the same manner as I have done with the Old Testaments. Good luck in finding one.

Convert people? No, not me, what would I be converting people too? Have I named a religion that I am part of, NO. Have I named a group that I am part of, NO. So what am I trying to convert people too? Following and paying more attention to GOD, well, I would be guilty of that. But I think one would be better off asking them self, why do they resist?

The GOD I am referring to is the GOD of the Hebrews, don’t look at HIM as being the GOD of the Jews that exist today, that is one of the ways they have taught you to resist. Look at HIM as being the GOD of our ancestors. And as for Gnostic teachings, is GOD HIMSELF informing you or is it written in a form that expresses GOD HIMSELF as saying it or doing it? If not, then it is not of GOD.

That’s the bottom line and that’s how you can distinguish rather or not a works or phrase is of GOD or not. If there is a GOD and if we all come before that GOD, I don’t think that GOD is going to be interested in what man has taught you. I think that GOD will be interested in what HE has taught you and what you have retained as a student as a human being. And if you have learned nothing, you come right back to earth to start the process all over again. And you will repeat this until you begin to learn and understand GOD.
:deal:


WRONG again, this is your rule of thumb. Your God, your ancestors, not mine. Just because you come to this conclusion does not make it true. You are the only one that believes in this garbage. It's funny how you are the only one who claims to have the correct knowledge of hebrew scripture, can you say Cult figure :uzi:

But I tell you what since you think you know it all, Go to Khemit, in fact go to Waset(al Aksur) Go to the temple complex of Amenhetop lll called the hypostyle hall. Read the Medu Neter if you can. then get back to me about your Hebrew God. Because unlike your bible, the medu neter is written in stone.

There you will also find the other 137 negative confessions, you know the ones your religion plagiarized by calling them the 10 commandments.

Music you're out of your league, so stop the lies

One more thing, you will never overstand the mysteries of my creator, because your approach is purely intellectual, not spiritual. The highest overstanding is not learned thru reading

Music Producer
09-08-2004, 10:12 AM
WRONG again, this is your rule of thumb. Your God, your ancestors, not mine. Just because you come to this conclusion does not make it true. You are the only one that believes in this garbage. It's funny how you are the only one who claims to have the correct knowledge of hebrew scripture, can you say Cult figure :uzi:

But I tell you what since you think you know it all, Go to Khemit, in fact go to Waset(al Aksur) Go to the temple complex of Amenhetop lll called the hypostyle hall. Read the Medu Neter if you can. then get back to me about your Hebrew God. Because unlike your bible, the medu neter is written in stone.

There you will also find the other 137 negative confessions, you know the ones your religion plagiarized by calling them the 10 commandments.

Music you're out of your league, so stop the lies

One more thing, you will never overstand the mysteries of my creator, because your approach is purely intellectual, not spiritual. The highest overstanding is not learned thru readingHey dude, I can’t even read Hebrew but I can punch it into a program and let it read it for me. So I do not claim to have any knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures. I thought about learning Hebrew even bought a book on it but it takes away from my studying of GOD. So I haven’t had time to learn it. And it is really not necessary because all you need to show and study is in plain English, GOD has made it that way. I would be kind a leery of someone trying to teach me something not in the language I have been subject to, many people use translation errors to hide behind, know what I mean.

I have already made the Egyptian connection between the Old Testaments and New Testaments, as a matter a fact I suspect the entire original Old Testaments are written in some form of Egyptian Hieroglyphs, but for me that is not reason enough to reject GOD. As a matter of fact it is more reason to understand GOD because GOD did explain that the remembrance of us would be next to nothing. Meaning that our original culture and history would be very difficult to discover because of what the heathen has done. So people like me take all of the bits and pieces, all of the scattered information and try to bring them together into one piece. From what I have seen, the Old Testaments is a very large bulk of those pieces. Like we have been scattered to the four corners of the earth, so has our ancient books, so has our ancient GOD. It is up to you to find those scattered pieces and bring the knowledge back together. But I will tell you this, it takes a natural Love and Desire of GOD to accomplish this, you have to desire to find GOD. So that when you do find ancient writings that the Old Testaments resemble you wont throw your hands up and say, “Ooh it is all fake or Ooh the Old Testaments are plagiarized”. No, son, you just found a piece of a very large puzzle. Those writing and drawings on the walls and beams that you know about or have seen in Egypt were already described to you 2000 years ago; you just have to listen to GOD.

Hab : 2 :
10: Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.
11: For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.
12: Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!
13: Behold, is it not of the LORD of hosts that the people shall labour in the very fire, and the people shall weary themselves for very vanity?
14: For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Now, do I need to tell you what this is talking about or do you understand it on your own? Pay attention to verse 11 to figure out the entire thing.

Sekhemu
09-08-2004, 04:47 PM
Hey dude, I can’t even read Hebrew but I can punch it into a program and let it read it for me. So I do not claim to have any knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures. I thought about learning Hebrew even bought a book on it but it takes away from my studying of GOD. So I haven’t had time to learn it. And it is really not necessary because all you need to show and study is in plain English, GOD has made it that way. I would be kind a leery of someone trying to teach me something not in the language I have been subject to, many people use translation errors to hide behind, know what I mean.

I have already made the Egyptian connection between the Old Testaments and New Testaments, as a matter a fact I suspect the entire original Old Testaments are written in some form of Egyptian Hieroglyphs, but for me that is not reason enough to reject GOD. As a matter of fact it is more reason to understand GOD because GOD did explain that the remembrance of us would be next to nothing. Meaning that our original culture and history would be very difficult to discover because of what the heathen has done. So people like me take all of the bits and pieces, all of the scattered information and try to bring them together into one piece. From what I have seen, the Old Testaments is a very large bulk of those pieces. Like we have been scattered to the four corners of the earth, so has our ancient books, so has our ancient GOD. It is up to you to find those scattered pieces and bring the knowledge back together. But I will tell you this, it takes a natural Love and Desire of GOD to accomplish this, you have to desire to find GOD. So that when you do find ancient writings that the Old Testaments resemble you wont throw your hands up and say, “Ooh it is all fake or Ooh the Old Testaments are plagiarized”. No, son, you just found a piece of a very large puzzle. Those writing and drawings on the walls and beams that you know about or have seen in Egypt were already described to you 2000 years ago; you just have to listen to GOD.

Hab : 2 :
10: Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.
11: For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.
12: Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!
13: Behold, is it not of the LORD of hosts that the people shall labour in the very fire, and the people shall weary themselves for very vanity?
14: For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Now, do I need to tell you what this is talking about or do you understand it on your own? Pay attention to verse 11 to figure out the entire thing.


Not only are you exceedingly ignorant you're also equally presumptuous. I'm going to keep this fairly short.

Everytime I challenge you do something you make excuses and twist and turn in the wind. You can put as many bit. But since you do not overstand the medu neter, I do. The medu neter, is a comprehensive system. Unlike you I do not search for bits and pieces.

Your religion, the one that you and you alone subscribe to, has bits and pieces that are plagiarized from the Medu Neter, and It's very interesting and contradictory of you to make a comment about being leery about someone teaching you something in another language you are not subjected to. Well who translated your bible. Perhaps you don't have enough faith in your God to ascertain what is true and false in these matters

At anyrate, you are in no position to suggest, coerce or even encourage me or anyone else here, to go find the scattered pieces and bring them into one piece, while your gesture may be sincere it is very misguided, because you make the assumption that everyone here is for the same purpose.

Your suspicions about the old testament being written in some sort of heiroglyphs is just that, a suspician. The hebrew alphabet is called a fire language. Based on the shadows cast by hand gestures and constellations. Just like the medu neter. this is knowledge that is not learned by reading books. You obvioulsy don't get that concept.

I will say this and not make anymore replies to this thread. I do not believe or recognize your God. To Me he is a false God. you can take it or leave it alone

I also have one or two questions for you. Who if anyone believes in your doctrine the way understand it. and if they do, why are you on this site. What is your mission?

And no you don't need to tell me nothing about the words from your little book called the bible. I don't care about your doctrine because it's not for me. But know this, if you continue to try to throw this stuff in my face on another thread, I'm gonna tell you where you can put it :sand:

Music Producer
09-09-2004, 11:45 AM
Not only are you exceedingly ignorant you're also equally presumptuous. I'm going to keep this fairly short.

Everytime I challenge you do something you make excuses and twist and turn in the wind. You can put as many bit. But since you do not overstand the medu neter, I do. The medu neter, is a comprehensive system. Unlike you I do not search for bits and pieces.

Your religion, the one that you and you alone subscribe to, has bits and pieces that are plagiarized from the Medu Neter, and It's very interesting and contradictory of you to make a comment about being leery about someone teaching you something in another language you are not subjected to. Well who translated your bible. Perhaps you don't have enough faith in your God to ascertain what is true and false in these matters

At anyrate, you are in no position to suggest, coerce or even encourage me or anyone else here, to go find the scattered pieces and bring them into one piece, while your gesture may be sincere it is very misguided, because you make the assumption that everyone here is for the same purpose.

Your suspicions about the old testament being written in some sort of heiroglyphs is just that, a suspician. The hebrew alphabet is called a fire language. Based on the shadows cast by hand gestures and constellations. Just like the medu neter. this is knowledge that is not learned by reading books. You obvioulsy don't get that concept.

I will say this and not make anymore replies to this thread. I do not believe or recognize your God. To Me he is a false God. you can take it or leave it alone

I also have one or two questions for you. Who if anyone believes in your doctrine the way understand it. and if they do, why are you on this site. What is your mission?

And no you don't need to tell me nothing about the words from your little book called the bible. I don't care about your doctrine because it's not for me. But know this, if you continue to try to throw this stuff in my face on another thread, I'm gonna tell you where you can put it :sand:What have you challenged me too?

The Medu Neter, many of the patriarchs in the Old Testaments have no been found to have been kings and rulers, some even thought to have been Pharaohs. Before these patriarchs encountered GOD they had lives and wrote books that promoted most of the basic concepts of the great Egyptians. The Medu Neter could vary well be one of those books written by Moses/Akhenaten before he encountered a real GOD. If this is the case then all you are doing is going in full circle back to what GOD pulled our ancestors from. I shall purchase the Medu Neter because I continue to be interested in these things and it might have a piece in it.

Well, it’s a little bit more than a suspicion. When I looked into the Mormons and how they evolved I found that the main person had gotten his concept from a lost book, page or chapter of Abraham. This papyri was written in Egyptian Hieroglyphs. You can even find photos of it on the net. And also the fact that we lived in Egypt for about 400 years supports that suspicion strongly.

http://www.isitso.org/guide/papyri.html

Rather or not it is authentic, I can’t say. But I suspect the entire original Old Testaments exist in this format and it is in the hands of the people that conquered us, the main servants of Jesus, the starting point of formulation and collation of the servants of Jesus, which would be the Levitican, which is Rome.

I will find that scattered pieces because I don’t mind doing the work. And my mind won’t be pulled away from GOD in laboring in the fire. It is not a venture for the weak minded or easily swayed ones.

My mission is to say Look, See.

Dude this is my thread, I should be telling you where to put it, but my mind is not of those type of people. So I will just tell you the truth YHVH Loves you. It is up to you to learn to Love HIM back.

Keita Kenyatta
09-11-2004, 08:12 PM
My Beloved Brother !
I took to reading this thread out of curiosity, and I want you to know this concerning your search.

1. Ask yourself why there are 17 versions of the Bible ?
2. Look on the walls of Ancient Kemet (Egypt) and see what the so called Hebrews (Haribu) looked like in the 12th Dynasty.
3. Find out who were the first people to invade Kemet and when so called Abraham came in...as well as what color he was....and if you make it that far, try and find some history to even support the idea that he actually existed if you can do that.
4. Do study the Medu Neter.
5. If possible, find out Moses real name and don't try to mix it with Ankhnaton
6. Find out the history of the Hebrews or Jews concerning when they got any books at all and where from.
7.Find out exactly where the letters YHVH came from and what they really meant.
8. Since the so called OLD TESTAMENT was not written nor can be found in any ancient kemetic literature at all, you may want to re-think that.
9. be sure when you call GOD a HE, that you are right ?
10. After you do all of this, throw your Bible away unless you learn how to use it to deprogram our people.

PEACE AS ALWAYS !

Sekhemu
09-12-2004, 12:23 AM
[QUOTE=Keita]My Beloved Brother !
I took to reading this thread out of curiosity, and I want you to know this concerning your search.

1. Ask yourself why there are 17 versions of the Bible ?
2. Look on the walls of Ancient Kemet (Egypt) and see what the so called Hebrews (Haribu) looked like in the 12th Dynasty.
3. Find out who were the first people to invade Kemet and when so called Abraham came in...as well as what color he was....and if you make it that far, try and find some history to even support the idea that he actually existed if you can do that.
4. Do study the Medu Neter.
5. If possible, find out Moses real name and don't try to mix it with Ankhnaton
6. Find out the history of the Hebrews or Jews concerning when they got any books at all and where from.
7.Find out exactly where the letters YHVH came from and what they really meant.
8. Since the so called OLD TESTAMENT was not written nor can be found in any ancient kemetic literature at all, you may want to re-think that.
9. be sure when you call GOD a HE, that you are right ?
10. After you do all of this, throw your Bible away unless you learn how to use it to deprogram our people.

PEACE AS ALWAYS ![/QUO :spank: need I say more Mr Record Manifacturer :hot:

Sekhemu
09-12-2004, 01:44 AM
[QUOTE=Keita]My Beloved Brother !
I took to reading this thread out of curiosity, and I want you to know this concerning your search.

1. Ask yourself why there are 17 versions of the Bible ?
2. Look on the walls of Ancient Kemet (Egypt) and see what the so called Hebrews (Haribu) looked like in the 12th Dynasty.
3. Find out who were the first people to invade Kemet and when so called Abraham came in...as well as what color he was....and if you make it that far, try and find some history to even support the idea that he actually existed if you can do that.
4. Do study the Medu Neter.
5. If possible, find out Moses real name and don't try to mix it with Ankhnaton
6. Find out the history of the Hebrews or Jews concerning when they got any books at all and where from.
7.Find out exactly where the letters YHVH came from and what they really meant.
8. Since the so called OLD TESTAMENT was not written nor can be found in any ancient kemetic literature at all, you may want to re-think that.
9. be sure when you call GOD a HE, that you are right ?
10. After you do all of this, throw your Bible away unless you learn how to use it to deprogram our people.

PEACE AS ALWAYS ![/QUO :spank: need I say more Mr Record Manifacturer :hot:


Keita, a brotha suggested that sometimes it's best we ignore people like this "Dude" who has wants to appropiate the legacy of Khemit.

So let's not even reply to him.

AUM
09-12-2004, 02:46 AM
"Sniper Word"! You guys "Smote" him!! :bazooka:

Music Producer
09-12-2004, 03:03 AM
My Beloved Brother !
I took to reading this thread out of curiosity, and I want you to know this concerning your search.

1. Ask yourself why there are 17 versions of the Bible ?
2. Look on the walls of Ancient Kemet (Egypt) and see what the so called Hebrews (Haribu) looked like in the 12th Dynasty.
3. Find out who were the first people to invade Kemet and when so called Abraham came in...as well as what color he was....and if you make it that far, try and find some history to even support the idea that he actually existed if you can do that.
4. Do study the Medu Neter.
5. If possible, find out Moses real name and don't try to mix it with Ankhnaton
6. Find out the history of the Hebrews or Jews concerning when they got any books at all and where from.
7.Find out exactly where the letters YHVH came from and what they really meant.
8. Since the so called OLD TESTAMENT was not written nor can be found in any ancient kemetic literature at all, you may want to re-think that.
9. be sure when you call GOD a HE, that you are right ?
10. After you do all of this, throw your Bible away unless you learn how to use it to deprogram our people.

PEACE AS ALWAYS !1. So many versions exist because as the heathens began to understand the Old Testaments more and more they began to see the truth of Sons of GOD. This is why in newer versions they have began replacing the saying with Divine Beings or Angles. With each new version of the Old Testaments they edit out specific wording to make it less hostile to the New Testaments.

2. Who told you that Haribu was a reference to Israel? When Israel came out of Egypt they encountered a people on their why to Egypt to conquer it. These were Haribus.

3. Abram was the son of Terah who has been identified as Senakhtenre. You can find more of this information on this web page, which is also the page I use to make the Egyption connection between the Biblical charicters and Egyption rullers.
http://www.domainofman.com/book/chap-9.html

4. I will order the Medu Neter, but if I don’t find any new information from GOD HIMSELF I will have to only conceder it as being writings and philosophies of men and not Divine.

5. Moses And Akhenaten existed in the same time frame when you remove what the heathens have done to cause the Biblical time line and the Egyptian time line to become out of synch. You can get extreme information and heard core evidence from a book written by David Rohl, “A Test of Time”. David’s final proof that he correctly re-synchronizes the Biblical time period with Egyptian time and shows Moses and Akhenaten being one in the same with the exception of the conquest of the Holy Land, he does a computer star map regression until a particular star is aligned as to how it was referred to through ancient text. His calculations were about 30 years off. As apposed to the heathens lying to us and pushing the Egyptian time line 500 years forward. You will better understand it through reading the book. Most of this type of knowledge I have forgotten.

6. The Jews of today have indeed edited and encrypted and stolen information that links the Old Testaments and Egypt. They did it this way in order to disassociate with the Egyptian gods and hide the true origin and rightful Kingship of the true bloodline of Israel. We are Kings but every heathen on earth is not interested in letting you know that because once it is known, once the original people of the Old Testaments become aware of who they are they can rightfully stake claim in the land as described in the Old Testaments. Do you thank they will just hand it over to you? We ruled most of Africa and all of the land up to the Euphrates River.

7. I know of the links in YHVH and how it is said to be a substitution but it is the reference I will use because YH has made it that way until HE engraves the engraving.

8. There does exist information about Israel in ancient Egyptian writings one is actually called the Israel stone. I forget who the pharaoh was but he is making a reference in bragging about his conquest of a people, they are referred to as Israel the drawing shows people on a heal or mount and the pharaoh running over them on his horse the writing say “Israel is no more, his seed is laid waste” and also you can actually see letters and communications that may have been written by the hand of David himself. But due to the time dilation that the heathens have distorted the Old Testaments with the link was never made until now. This book that has these writings in them is called, “The Amarna Letters”.

9. Deut:32:39: See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
That is GOD referring to Himself as “he” or acting as “he” meaning a male. Thus it is how I will see HIM. Until otherwise informed by HIM.

10. It seems someone has used it to deprogram you and cause you to revert back to what GOD originally pulled us from and that is worshipping the gods of the Egyptians. The Old Testaments is basically a recording of one great Egyptian family or bloodline that encountered a real GOD. The information that you seem to be infatuated with is the writings and doctrines of these families and individuals before they encountered GOD.

Keita Kenyatta
09-12-2004, 09:17 AM
I apologize for taking up your time and wish you well in your future searches.

Pharaoh Jahil
09-14-2004, 11:47 AM
This question is not that simple. One's faith caters to a particular need in their lives that satisfies some sort of desire or yearning. For example some people are in search of the truth. Some feel the need to be avenged in some way. Some need to feel loved. While some people feel the need for belonging. No matter, desire drives people to their faith. It's sort of like wearing shoes. Though the shoe may be attractive and the lastest trend the shoe still must fit and be comfortable if one plans on walking in them for a long time. One may try on several pair of shoe before they find the right shoe. Comfort is what you feel not what know. Not all size 11 shoes are comfortable to size 11 feet. So my point is faith starts on the inside of each person and then is substanciated by the faith's dotrine.


Peace

Radical Faith



Peace


I must say Radical Faith, I whole heartedly agree with you. Sure one should be educated about there faith but education is not the determining factor of me picking a religion. It starts within like you stated. There should be some type of personal Divine inspiration that brings you to your ultimate decision on faith.

toylin
09-14-2004, 09:13 PM
Absolutely. I was raised to believe certain things, but by high school, i began to question things, and was not very satisfied with the answers I recieved. I ran away from religion all together until around the time I got married. I read the entire Left Behind seried by Tim LaHaye, and that sent me running back the to the Bible. My best friend reverted to Islam, and gave me a Qu'ran, which lead me back to the Torah. Also, I have always been interested in African religous practices. I have big binders full of information I have collected. This study is what led me to believe that we are all following the same One Supreme Being.... Education is important, but it must be personal. If you foroce something on someone, they will grow to hate you and reject the doctrine.

Joyce
09-30-2004, 02:55 PM
Should one be educated about their own faith?

If so, why?

To be educated about one's own faith is nice, but fortunately not necessary. Thus, many are like Paul who once said...all I know is Christ and Him crucified. In other words if education were a requirement then many of us would be in trouble...thus, simple faith in Jesus is all that's needed in the Christian faith. I can't speak for other faiths, but thankfully in my faith all I need is...is faith...faith in the works that Christ did for me as a sinner.

Joyce

MANASIAC
09-30-2004, 03:10 PM
very cool point Joyce.

Music Producer
09-30-2004, 03:17 PM
To be educated about one's own faith is nice, but fortunately not necessary. Thus, many are like Paul who once said...all I know is Christ and Him crucified. In other words if education were a requirement then many of us would be in trouble...thus, simple faith in Jesus is all that's needed in the Christian faith. I can't speak for other faiths, but thankfully in my faith all I need is...is faith...faith in the works that Christ did for me as a sinner.

JoyceWith out being educated in your faith how can you tell the difference between good and evil?
For example if your object of worship explains…

Rv:2:28: And I will give him the morning star.

Rv:22:16: I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


As one that has faith in that entity doesn’t it becomes your duty as faith to explore the meaning of what Jesus is saying? Doesn’t it become your duty as faith to know the FATHER?

21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Doesn’t it become your duty as faith to do the will of the Father?

Joyce
09-30-2004, 06:34 PM
As you know Music Producer, in the past I have had to refrain from argumentive debates with you because of your tendency to digress to places I don't desire to go. You asked a simple question and I gave a simple answer. I did not think you were looking to argue with anyone who happens to think differently from the mind you currently posses.

By the way...it doesn't take an education to know the difference between right and wrong. To most people, this awareness comes naturally unless they have been "educated" differently by other sources.

Now...I am through :climb: this tree of yours, because as the clipart indicates...with you, this can be an endless climb. And I ain't wit dat today. :getout:

Music Producer
09-30-2004, 09:33 PM
As you know Music Producer, in the past I have had to refrain from argumentive debates with you because of your tendency to digress to places I don't desire to go. You asked a simple question and I gave a simple answer. I did not think you were looking to argue with anyone who happens to think differently from the mind you currently posses.

By the way...it doesn't take an education to know the difference between right and wrong. To most people, this awareness comes naturally unless they have been "educated" differently by other sources.

Now...I am through :climb: this tree of yours, because as the clipart indicates...with you, this can be an endless climb. And I ain't wit dat today. :getout:Not so much as a climb but you hit the nail right on the head, “unless they have been "educated" differently by other sources.”

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