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kente417mojo
08-12-2004, 07:40 PM
Brothas....I don't know what channel this station is on in your respective city/ states, but have you ever seen "Lifetime". It's a channel for women. Ok, I have sat in a watched a couple of movies with my mom and sister and female friends on occassion. To me it seems that every movie has to do with a woman getting beat, raped, verbally abused or cheated on by a man. Is it just me or is this what they are showing. Are they tring to brain-wash women into hating men? The first movie I saw was called the burning bed where a man was abusing his wife and at the end she poured gasoline on him while he slept and lit him on fire. Women love this movie. As if he deserved to be set on fire. What are your opinions of this station?

daroc
08-12-2004, 08:11 PM
this is funny... yeah they do seem to have that trend.. but the movies keep u intersted.. wondering if she gonna leave him.. or have the baby cuz she got raped stuff.. but i kno some guys who watch that stuff and and i kno some women who cant go wit out it....

i guess its a channel for women.. yall jus got one...

kente417mojo
08-13-2004, 12:05 PM
this is funny... yeah they do seem to have that trend.. but the movies keep u intersted.. wondering if she gonna leave him.. or have the baby cuz she got raped stuff.. but i kno some guys who watch that stuff and and i kno some women who cant go wit out it....

i guess its a channel for women.. yall jus got one...

Man, that channel needs to be cut-off. It's making you women think crazy. We got Spike TV. That channel sucks. :maddd: It's not the same. My mom and sister keep the tv tuned in to that station so they can see some poor woman being abused :fight: and sympathize with her. Then they look at me like I'm the one who beat that woman. Talkin about "that's how you guys are".

panafrica
08-13-2004, 01:08 PM
Man, that channel needs to be cut-off. It's making you women think crazy. We got Spike TV. That channel sucks. :maddd: It's not the same. My mom and sister keep the tv tuned in to that station so they can see some poor woman being abused :fight: and sympathize with her. Then they look at me like I'm the one who beat that woman. Talkin about "that's how you guys are".

LOL@Kente I hear what you are saying, but is this any different than books/movies like "Waiting to Exhale"? Bitter women are always going to make men out to be villians. We just have to role with the punches man. :laugh:

CarrieMonet
08-13-2004, 01:31 PM
Lifetime channel is depressing. It is beyond me how a woman can sit and watch those depressing movies back to back.

I love USA channel and the Law and Order marathons.

kente417mojo
08-13-2004, 01:42 PM
LOL@Kente I hear what you are saying, but is this any different than books/movies like "Waiting to Exhale"? Bitter women are always going to make men out to be villians. We just have to role with the punches man. :laugh:

Waithing to Exhale.....I hate that movie. I hear you panafrica. It's just scary to know that millions of women are watching this channel and nodding their head like "see, that why we burn you while you sleep". It's crazy that people would put that much work into making men look bad 24hrs straight....7 days a week......365 days a year. Devoting a whole channel to man-bashing. I mean, yes women have done it for years without this channel...but d@mn!!!

Carrie...Law and Order is probably the best show on...besides Dave Chappelle. I can watch that any day. See, Law and Order levels it out. One day the crime is commited by a man...the next a woman...then after that it's comitted by the children. On Lifetime the man commits the crime all the time and the woman and children are the victims of this alcoholic, reckless, abusive, selfish pig of a man. Why aren't women who watch Lifetime posting in here. I know that there are a lot of women on this site that watch it and stand up and applaud after the woman shoots her husband dead. :uzi:

CarrieMonet
08-13-2004, 02:10 PM
LMAO! My best friend watches Lifetime channel...and laughs at me because I cringe when she tells me how she watched it ALL DAY LONG on Sunday. I would be so drepressed after that. I would like to hold on to HOPING there aren't too many men out there like that...violet killers and abusers.

My favorite Law and Order is SVU. I LOVE THAT SHOW!

define
08-16-2004, 01:21 AM
Yeah, My girl likes SVU. Dave Chapelle is one of my favorite shows. I don't watch lifestyle because of they way they portray men and all of their shows/movies are cliche and banal. They need to get more creative anyways instead of telling the same old story of the Woman is the man's victim. PEACES

Nfant_De_Milieu
08-16-2004, 05:30 PM
That station seems like the male bashing network to me. Whenever I am over a female's places, of course she is watching Lifetime, she is always watching a moving about Jane Doe who is getting abused by John Doe. John Doe also can not keep a job, drug user, spy from Russia and is cheating on her. I am just glad my television has the option to delete stations. Time for some ESPN!!!

kente417mojo
08-16-2004, 05:51 PM
That station seems like the male bashing network to me. Whenever I am over a female's places, of course she is watching Lifetime, she is always watching a moving about Jane Doe who is getting abused by John Doe. John Doe also can not keep a job, drug user, spy from Russia and is cheating on her. I am just glad my television has the option to delete stations. Time for some ESPN!!!

Man, why is it that every guy on that station is about nothing. That's true. He doesn't just have 1 problem...he has like 3 or 4 issues. He's a drunk, wife beater and a cheat with a whole seperate family across town. And she's such a good, pure woman that she stays with him...but he doesn't appreciate her. It's crazy. Women eat this stuff up too. I guess the one's who watch this stuff makes them feel like women are the one's who make relationships work...and men just bring drama.

sweetbrownsugar
08-16-2004, 06:17 PM
I'd peeked in on this thread a few times without commenting but I couldn't resist! You are right kentemojo....they never show a man in a better light. I often wondered if it were called Lifetime: Network for men? Would they show "system-victimized" Men who are made to pay child support for kids they didn't bring into the world? Or how hard a man fought to change something like that? Because in some states there are men who are petioning to change state laws regarding that -But you never see stuff like this on lifetime. I'd watch it if they would they show a man being MORE a hero than some Zero.

atomicangel
08-23-2004, 10:04 AM
Men must really get it bad. i guess it's a good thing that they dont have a channel like that in london

MANASIAC
08-23-2004, 12:06 PM
Lifetime is a network for out of work actresses who are looking for comeback. It also a network which as the same lame programming all day (Male Bashing :-)), and only on Fathers Day will you see any positive programming about men. The best programming on the network is intimate portrait. The other programming just plain out sucks, I mean no disrespect lifetime, but your programming only fuels extreme feminist propaganda about men.

However they do get props for drilling into the head of the sisters that watch lifetime, that ALL BLACK MEN ARE NOT EVIL, if you notice most of the evil men are white, so ladies if you ever thought race was based on behavior, hopefully you can use the convoluted examples on lifetime as an example :-)

Lifetime is Bull****.

Can I be on lifetime?

panafrica
08-23-2004, 10:46 PM
However they do get props for drilling into the head of the sisters that watch lifetime, that ALL BLACK MEN ARE NOT EVIL, if you notice most of the evil men are white, so ladies if you ever thought race was based on behavior, hopefully you can use the convoluted examples on lifetime as an example.

You're right Manasaic...if Lifetime gives us nothing else, we can at least say this. That is until Essence launches their own network! :uhoh:

$$RICH$$
08-24-2004, 01:28 AM
really i watch lifetime daily they have a lot of movies that do give
signs that men just beat/rape or cause dismay to women but i also
see some where the man is the victim one where this lady was crazy
mad treated the kids bad and her husband left got with a young lady who worked at the law firm and she killed him and got time and theirs one when the
school teacher was wrong she had her husband killed for insurance money
so they do cross it up a lot i don't see anything wrong with it no more then
what we see at the movies pan made some key point this a woman station anyway
we sho nuff got to roll wit it ......

toylin
08-24-2004, 12:26 PM
I don't do the Lifetime thing too often.... But, i noticed that it's not necessarily about portraying men in an evil light.. They're trying to show strong women! Like, "look, if this is happening to you, you're not alone." And after omst of those movies, they show phone numbers and address to things like suicide helplines, and women's shelters, and eating disorders help places. They're trying to show women that they do not have to suffer through certain things unnecessarily.

BTW - "The Burning Bed".... she tried to leave him a couple of times.. and everytime, he would beat her. He beat her in front of the kids. She felt her only option was to get rid of him once and for all. I don't necessarily agree with it, but if I remember correctly, even her own mother was reluctant to help her get away from him......

JMO.....

Sangofa
08-26-2004, 04:28 PM
Brothas....I don't know what channel this station is on in your respective city/ states, but have you ever seen "Lifetime". It's a channel for women. Ok, I have sat in a watched a couple of movies with my mom and sister and female friends on occassion. To me it seems that every movie has to do with a woman getting beat, raped, verbally abused or cheated on by a man. Is it just me or is this what they are showing. Are they tring to brain-wash women into hating men? The first movie I saw was called the burning bed where a man was abusing his wife and at the end she poured gasoline on him while he slept and lit him on fire. Women love this movie. As if he deserved to be set on fire. What are your opinions of this station?

I agree that's why I don't watch that channel anymore. Also lifetime shows movies about someone being murdered. I have yet to see anything positive. :yawn:

MANASIAC
08-27-2004, 07:57 AM
Amen to that Brother Pan.

The Essence Channel - NOW YOU CAN WATCH NEGATIVE STUFF ABOUT BLACK MEN!!!!

panafrica
08-27-2004, 08:12 AM
Of course the Essence channel would not only have bad black men, unlike Lifetime...they would have white men as the solution!

MANASIAC
08-27-2004, 08:23 AM
Dang you right.

DA BROTHER LOVE
08-31-2004, 12:54 AM
My take on this situation is that this is the classic debate of life imitating art.... Does watching these movies cause women to resent men? Or do women watch these shows because they resent men? I happen to believe that latter is true.... I mean think about it, women wouldnt be so attached to these shows if they didnt identify.... I think the real issue is why are they watching these shows.... This issue is a reflection of the resentment women have held for men from the centuries of degradation and abuse they have endured.... I think men should look at this issue and realize that we need to stand up and address the reason why they are hurting.... take a look deeper than what you see....

NNQueen
08-31-2004, 09:04 AM
Keep in mind people, these movies on the Lifetime Channel are made in Hollywood--about and for WHITE women. This is THEIR empowerment station. Spike is the testosterone channel with white men depicted as larger than life characters. Who in this community can relate to either of these channels? I would not spend nor waste any time watching movies on the Lifetime Channel or Spike Channel for nothing more than entertainment if you're into that sort of thing. Black women and Black men should not internalize nor assume any likenesses to these stories whether real or imagined.

"Waiting to Exhale" is a FICTITIOUS movie made from the same type of novel written about FICTIONAL characters by a Black woman--Terry McMillan. It's not real even though there may be some likenesses drawn in a few characters. Let's face it, there is some drama that occurs in our community whether we like seeing it on the big screen or not. But now, "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" is more of an autobrography and I thought depicted a lot of love between a Black man and Black woman and between friends and within a family. It also showed how a sister chose to deal with a racist and her courage to step outside the box and do what makes you happy. I also think that it gave a Black man substance and props by showing him as a confident person who knew what he wanted and wasn't afraid to go after it.

On the surface what may appear as fluff, can sometimes have deeper meanings that warrant our attention.

Queenie :spinstar:

kente417mojo
08-31-2004, 07:26 PM
My take on this situation is that this is the classic debate of life imitating art.... Does watching these movies cause women to resent men? Or do women watch these shows because they resent men? I happen to believe that latter is true.... I mean think about it, women wouldnt be so attached to these shows if they didnt identify.... I think the real issue is why are they watching these shows.... This issue is a reflection of the resentment women have held for men from the centuries of degradation and abuse they have endured.... I think men should look at this issue and realize that we need to stand up and address the reason why they are hurting.... take a look deeper than what you see....

I agree that these things do happen. No one is disputing that. I do think they show endless hours of man-bashing. Come on. We can make a white-bashing channel, woman bashing channel, gay-bashing channel...what is that really doing but filling minds with garbage and ideas that specific groups are a certain way. I don't think men are driving all these women to watch this station. They are watching it because they have issues within themselves too. I'm sure women who watch this channel do hate men, but unlike "Lifetime" says...all men do not mess women up emotionally. Sometimes they are messed up to begin with and they watch this channel to make themselves feel like victims. Does anyone ask "why does her husband drinks so much" when they're watching a "Lifetime" movie? Well, maybe she drove him to drink. They never show the woman in a negative light though. That's what gets me. The woman always has a hallo around her head. If you're gonna show a movie...show real ones. Not what these sad, pathetic women want to see to validate why they are so weak and messed up. :tongue:

Aisha
08-31-2004, 10:48 PM
I watch Lifetime Movies all the time and some of them are suspense movies which most of the time have romance. The one's where there are so called "male bashing" are usually true stories. The Burning Bed was a true story and if any man were to beat me like that man beat her than I would burned his @*# too and lit a cigarette with the fire like Angela Bassett did in "Waiting to Exhale". I don't see it as a male bashing channel I see it more like a romance channel.

Aisha

toylin
08-31-2004, 11:50 PM
Another channel that seems to be following this trend of romance/male bashing-true story/white people save the world? USA.

kente417mojo
09-01-2004, 12:20 PM
Even if these stories are based on true events....it's funny how they are always so one-sided. The women are always 100% loyal, understanding and supportive, no matter what hell the man puts them through. On the other hand, the man just takes and takes and takes....without giving anything good in return. Then the woman gets the courage to leave this abusive man and all is well. :sleep: Give me a break. Very rarely is one party 100% of the problem in a relationship. On the burning bed, wasn't it about a man beating her until she finally used the excuse like "I burned him because he beat me for years and I went insane"? Question.....why would you let a man beat you for so many years that you go crazy and burn him? Stupidity should not be a defense option. If he hits you once...leave. Why do women look for sympathy when they allow this to happen to themselves? No...abusing your wife is not acceptable...but burning a man while he sleeps is worse if you allowed him to drive you to that. This channel makes stuff like this seem justified and that's wrong. :nono:

NNQueen
09-01-2004, 01:14 PM
:lol: @ Bro. Kente...

It's true that some of the movies aired on the "Lifetime" channel are true stories and since it's a network FOR [white] women, the stories are biased toward women. As far as romance themes are concerned, well, haven't we seen enough of "white" love? I know I have--but anyway.

My view of the Lifetime channel is that it sends another political message that has strong racist overtones. I remember very well the movie called "Burning Bed" about the white woman because the actual events took place not far from where I live. Ironically and interestingly though, there was a companion story very similar to that about a Black woman that never made it past the local news. That sister is serving a life sentence in a state penitentiary.

The great majority of the movies on the Lifetime Channel (I really want to say all but can't prove it) are about white women and their struggles. Who are these white women? Well, they are mostly your average middle class white women who get beat up by their spouses, are raped and abandoned, their children get kidnapped and abused, they battle injustices in the family court system, and always (almost always) end up heroines after taking the law into their own hands. Oh, and they usually wind up with a man that loves them, wants to protect them and support them. The end!

Well, maybe that's not all true. In all fairness to the channel, all the movies don't have this theme because some are about crazy white women who kill, abuse men, commit adultery and are child molesters. Am I understanding someone to say that the Lifetime Channel actually aired the movie, "Waiting to Exhale" or was that just being used as an example?

Queenie :spinstar:

kente417mojo
09-01-2004, 01:20 PM
:lol: @ Bro. Kente...

It's true that some of the movies aired on the "Lifetime" channel are true stories and since it's a network FOR [white] women, the stories are biased toward women. As far as romance themes are concerned, well, haven't we seen enough of "white" love? I know I have--but anyway.

My view of the Lifetime channel is that it sends another political message that has strong racist overtones. I remember very well the movie called "Burning Bed" about the white woman because the actual events took place not far from where I live. Ironically and interestingly though, there was a companion story very similar to that about a Black woman that never made it past the local news. That sister is serving a life sentence in a state penitentiary.

The great majority of the movies on the Lifetime Channel (I really want to say all but can't prove it) are about white women and their struggles. Who are these white women? Well, they are mostly your average middle class white women who get beat up by their spouses, are raped and abandoned, their children get kidnapped and abused, they battle injustices in the family court system, and always (almost always) end up heroines after taking the law into their own hands. Oh, and they usually wind up with a man that loves them, wants to protect them and support them. The end!

Well, maybe that's not all true. In all fairness to the channel, all the movies don't have this theme because some are about crazy white women who kill, abuse men, commit adultery and are child molesters. Am I understanding someone to say that the Lifetime Channel actually aired the movie, "Waiting to Exhale" or was that just being used as an example?

Queenie :spinstar:

True, because I've never seen a movie on Lifetime that had a black woman as the victim/ heroine. It is mostly about white middle-class women. Yet another problem with this station. I've only seen a couple that were about women with problems. Most are not (from what I've seen). If this channel shows "Waiting to Exhale"...that will be an all-time low.

Aisha
09-01-2004, 11:33 PM
I agree with you Queen, I have seen enough white love on tv and lately I am seeing more interracial romance on Tv than any black romance. The other family that was ignored was the black family that had I believe 8 babies (naturally) right after the white family (who had artificial insimination) had thiers. The black family barely got anything until Star Jones reported this on The View and was very blunt about how the balck family was not given as many free gifts as this white family. Lifetime is a channel for white women I do not dispute this, I just disagree that it is a male bashing channel.

Kente,
You might want to talk to the families of women who tried to leave thier abusive husbands and were murdered. It is easier said than done, some of these men are really crazy and need to be killed. Most of these women have children with the men so they have to deal with them for the rest of thier lives. My friend was filing for divorce from her husband (although not abusive) he came over to talk to her about thier daughter and now they are both dead just because he "didn't want a divorce". If I am being beaten by a man so bad and I know if I leave he is going to try to find me and kill me, I will provide free heat to the neighborhood by burning his _ _ _.


Aisha

panafrica
09-02-2004, 04:50 AM
Domestic violence against women is an undeniable problem, which I don't believe anyone wants to understate. However I believe that brother Kente417Mojo wanted to point out that the media seems to concentrate solely on men (particularly black men) who do this, at the exclusion of black men who do not. I've always maintained that the media likes to take the extraordinary, and portray it as ordinary. The media (television, film, and print) does not provide a balanace...this is especially true for black men in such issues as DL brothers, domestic violence, child abandonment, criminal behavior, etc. It does not matter how many white men commit crimes (car theft is a rift of passage for white youth, yet they only get probation); turn their back on children; cheat their wives/girlfriends, hit their spouses, these issues will always be black issues as far as the media is concerned. Even black people buy into these stereotypes.

The biggest issue (really the only issue) I took to Bill Cosby's "speeches" is when he made the blanket statement, "Black Men stop beating your wives because you can't find a job." When statements like this are made from black lips it becomes validation for all the negative stereotypes floating around in the media. There are an abundance of white men who commit domestic violence. As brother Manasiac said the one positive about Lifetime is that it shows this aspect of white society.

Black people like to think whites are perfect, and incapable of doing wrong to others (like slavery was some aboration); however, the reality is: The feminist movement was created by white women about white men! The sins of the white male are manifold. However the difference between our community and theirs is that when a white woman is abused and she decides that is enough...she'll go to a counselor, a priest, a lawyer.....shen a black woman does...she'll go to the media. In other words white folks keep their disgraces in house, while we like to display ours for the world to see (in many cases).

All this being said domestic violence is not excusable, and it needs to be eliminated. For a negative societal pattern to end the roots & causes must be examined. However neither the roots nor causes can be truly explored as long as they are hidden in stereotype...domestic violence, infidelity, child abandonment, these are human problems...not cultural practices! As long as we continue to look at the as such...they will continue to inflict us.

kente417mojo
09-02-2004, 12:36 PM
Kente,
If I am being beaten by a man so bad and I know if I leave he is going to try to find me and kill me, I will provide free heat to the neighborhood by burning his _ _ _.
Aisha

How would you ever KNOW that a man was going to kill you?

So because these men MIGHT be crazy I guess that makes it ok for women to take the law into their own hands and kill them right? :lol: See, this is exactly what Lifetime does. Makes women believe they have the power to make a decision like this. I will never say that these men are victims, but no one has the right to make a decision to end someone's life....period. No matter if you turn the waterworks on until 2050...it's still murder. Now, if you're separated and he breaks into your home and tries to beat you or kill you...then ok...it's self defense. But to say "I'm leaving, and I'm going to kill him before I go because he MIGHT kill me" is murder. I think the law should prosecute men who beat women more severely than they do, but that's not your job to execute him. I've had women try to hit me....should I kill them? No, because I'm a man right? I should be able to shake it off and turn the other cheek right? How do I know she won't try to kill me if I leave? I am sympathetic to battered women, but know your value. How many of these women tried to leave after the first slap and were murdered?

NNQueen
09-02-2004, 05:06 PM
I would never condone murder without provocation but I think we need to be careful Bro. Kente in underestimating the fear factor that comes with constant abusive relationships. Things that may not make sense to us now because we are not faced with the threat, might cause us to misjudge or miscalculate the situation when or if it becomes real.

Unless something is seriously wrong psychologically, most people don't set out to kill other people for no reason. A lot of murders are crimes of passion--those that occur in the heat of a moment without premeditation. People have been known to mentally click out when their adrenalin kicks into overdrive because they believe their lives are being threatened.

I know this may not be easy for you to do being a man but try to put yourself in a woman's shoes who is crazed with fear brought on by countless experiences of mental, emotional and/or physical brutality. Being able to think rationally is the fist thing to go for many women under these circumstances. It happens a lot but I agree, the Lifetime Channel seems to focus on these stories more than any other type and you have to wonder what message does that send to viewers. To balance the programming, romance stories is not necessarily what addresses these issues. Maybe they should include programming that teaches women how to better choose partners and to be less inclined to "fall in love" so quickly and sexual too early and more observant of these men over a longer period of time.

Queenie :spinstar:

kente417mojo
09-02-2004, 05:31 PM
I would never condone murder without provocation but I think we need to be careful Bro. Kente in underestimating the fear factor that comes with constant abusive relationships. Things that may not make sense to us now because we are not faced with the threat, might cause us to misjudge or miscalculate the situation when or if it becomes real.

I just don't buy this "insanity" theory. I've never been a fan of it. I think people use it to justify their wrong doings. I mean, if that's the case then it should be alright for black people to gun down police officers when they get pulled over..right? I mean, it's constant abuse on black folks as a whole throughout the years. I'd have less of a problem with this though because I hate pigs anyway. I do see what you guys are getting at though. If someone is constantly jumping on you then you might feel as though it will happen again..if not worse the next time around. Still, no woman can make the decision to do that no matter what the circumstances. You have to take steps before that. I'm not a fan of the judicial system, but you have to take steps. Restraining orders first. Leave him. Not after the 100th time he slaps you around, but after the first time it happens. Relocate and change your name or something. I'm sure there are women's groups that help with this. Take responsibility for your life and stop leaving it in the hands of a man. I bet alot of these women said nothing throughout the years and took no action against him. Then they wonder why it keeps going and going and going. Why wait until he beats you crazy, then you snap and kill him and risk spending the rest of your life in jail. In real life killing him won't do you any good because you'll be rotting in prison. So instead of watching your back because of your one crazy husband...now you're watching your back because of hundreds of crazy inmates. How is this better?

NNQueen
09-02-2004, 05:45 PM
Brother Kente, all of your points are legitimate ones but again, unless you're faced with the threat, you never know how you will react or what you're going to do. It's just not always as simple as the process you described. I wish it was, but I know from working with women in situations like this that it's not. This attitude happens alot too with women who are rape victims. People never having faced the threat are always looking at it differently than the victim.

Your analogy about what Black people constantly have to go through, well, yes what you wrote is true but we don't have to sleep with the cop or hopefully they aren't the father of our children. Yes, we carry the stress caused by the encounter but we can leave and go home and vent to someone who understands and emphathizes with us. A battered woman seldom has that type of support system.

I'm not condoning women killing men. I'm just trying to explain to you that abuse is a complicated situation without a simple solution. There are ways women can escape like you suggested. But to some of these women, unfortunately, homicide is also an option.

Queenie :spinstar:

kente417mojo
09-02-2004, 05:54 PM
Point taken NNQueen. I still don't buy it, but I guess I can't totally count out something I've never been through. I just seems like these women would see the writing on the wall before it gets to that point.....you know. There is always a way out....always. No one is trapped if you open your eyes and reach out.

NNQueen
09-02-2004, 06:10 PM
Point taken NNQueen. I still don't buy it, but I guess I can't totally count out something I've never been through. I just seems like these women would see the writing on the wall before it gets to that point.....you know. There is always a way out....always. No one is trapped if you open your eyes and reach out.

True, there are options to help these women (and men) to get out of abusive relationships and I wish more and more people would seek the help they need.

But getting back to the point about the Lifetime Channel...I certainly don't watch it and wouldn't encourage anyone I knew to watch it either. It simply doesn't appeal to my tastes, but it at least, makes white women happy to have it. Which brings us back to what's out there for Black folk that reflects the depth and breadth of who we are? We've nixed BET and if there are other cable channels I don't think they are broadcast nationwide.

Queenie :spinstar:

MANASIAC
09-09-2004, 09:24 AM
Lifetime Stills Sucks. And the Essence Channel Still Will Suck too :-)

Sanaiah25
11-13-2005, 07:37 AM
Not all Lifetime movies are about men being evil and aggressive, though plenty of them use negative situations to show how some women choose to respond to them. Most movies that are about abuse, advocate the woman finding a way out of the relationship. In rape movies, they advocate women overcoming fear and humiliation, so they can come forward and report the incident.

I do agree that Lifetime shows a lot of victimization of women, but it is all based on reality. It is reported that 1/3 women will be sexually assaulted during her lifetime, yet this factor only includes that one category of assault. I wonder how many more women are assualted physically.

In most lifetime movies (if you bother to notice), there is always some positive male in the woman's life despite her negative situation. There is usually a father who helps to support his pregnant teenage daughter, a husband who helps his wife after being raped, and abused wives usually end up falling in love again by the end of the movie (with a decent guy). So there are always positive males to counter the negative ones.

I don't think this situation is any different than hip hop artists saying "we only speak about the reality in the streets", "don't blame me, i'm just the messenger", "i'm just talking about life in my hood", etc... I would think that such an excuse would be better understood concerning domestic violence, since it is a more universal problem than dangers of the street life.
:donttell:

soulsearcher
11-13-2005, 09:13 AM
My opinion... Lifetime has a lot of movies that are very negative against men. Even if they are true stories, showing SO MANY of them could form a perception that all men are child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, and cheaters. There are some movies that show women doing bad things, or a man that was a protagonist... but there is not enough of a balance. And even though I do like watching Lifetime... too much of it just gets depressing. I haven't even watched it as much now because I don't always want to be in a negative, angry mindset.

In relations to how Lifetime concerns the black community, though... the few movies or television shows they have about black women do not put black men in a negative light, especially the Rosa Parks film, who contained her husband who was a very strong black male character (despite being a little reluctant to embrace Parks activism which is understandable in that day and age). He cared about her and supported her... and this was a story in real life! So people can use this as an argument against those that feel white men or any other race of men don't do this or that. It can also be used as an argument that many white women do voice complaints about their men... black women are not solo when it comes to this.

Sanaiah25
11-13-2005, 09:57 AM
My opinion... Lifetime has a lot of movies that are very negative against men. Even if they are true stories, showing SO MANY of them could form a perception that all men are child molesters, rapists, wife beaters, and cheaters. There are some movies that show women doing bad things, or a man that was a protagonist... but there is not enough of a balance. And even though I do like watching Lifetime... too much of it just gets depressing. I haven't even watched it as much now because I don't always want to be in a negative, angry mindset.

In relations to how Lifetime concerns the black community, though... the few movies or television shows they have about black women do not put black men in a negative light, especially the Rosa Parks film, who contained her husband who was a very strong black male character (despite being a little reluctant to embrace Parks activism which is understandable in that day and age). He cared about her and supported her... and this was a story in real life! So people can use this as an argument against those that feel white men or any other race of men don't do this or that. It can also be used as an argument that many white women do voice complaints about their men... black women are not solo when it comes to this.

Atleast there are still positive men in every lifetime movie. There is not a single movie on the network where the only man in the film was the rapist, murderer, or abuser. Their are always positive fathers, neighbors, husbands,or friends. Some male usually is supportive in some way, even if it is only the cop who spends hours investigating a case, and refuses to rest until the assailant is behind bars. That is the balance of life:the representation of both groups (good and bad men) coexisting in the same neighborhood, in the same situation. :idea:

soulsearcher
11-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Atleast there are still positive men in every lifetime movie. There is not a single movie on the network where the only man in the film was the rapist, murderer, or abuser. Their are always positive fathers, neighbors, husbands,or friends. Some male usually is supportive in some way, even if it is only the cop who spends hours investigating a case, and refuses to rest until the assailant is behind bars. That is the balance of life:the representation of both groups (good and bad men) coexisting in the same neighborhood, in the same situation. :idea:

True... I agree, though some people have a tendency of concentrating more on the negative characters.

spicybrown
11-13-2005, 02:15 PM
I'm lovin Lifetime. Matter of fact, between classes, I go home just to watch a full hour of "Unsolved Mysteries", the newer movies are rather boring. Movies from the mid 90's are on hit. I've been a fan of Unsolved Mysteries since I was 10, a bit spooky then. :hearthis: Anybody know where I can find the episode fav's on DVD?

nevar
11-13-2005, 03:22 PM
i dont care what you men say lifetime is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

kente417mojo
11-14-2005, 12:56 PM
i dont care what you men say lifetime is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Well, the responses don't surprise me because even when I speak on it with friends or relatives (that are female) it's pretty much the same response. I don't think women mind that men are being made to be viewed in a negative light. I agree with soulsearcher, there is not enough balance. I didn't start this thread as a "black man being demonized" topic, but men in general. We all know that if black women are watching a channel that's full of white people going through certain issues, it's going to be reflected directly on black men, so it will affect us even though there are white faces on the screen. There are some that have positive supportive male figures in it, but not all. Plus, these characters only get a small portion of the time on screen. it's usually at the very begginning and the very end. All throughout men are getting bashed and trashed, so it's not even close to evening out.

Sodwn2earth
11-14-2005, 02:53 PM
My mom love's Lifetime, even upped her cable service to get the Lifetime Movie Network where they show nothin but lifetime movies. I personally don't like the network because it is very depressing, but not all the movies male-bash. There are also movies about best-friends and kids and sex. There are a variety of shows and movies, you just have to watch it long enough. If I want to see tv, I don't have much choice but to watch it sometimes, but my original opinion still stands. Very depressing. Makes me hate being a female.

nevar
11-15-2005, 04:02 AM
listen ba what i watch dont reflect how i going to treat my man. I love my man an watching some channel wont make me go shoot him. look i even got my friend watching it. where when he gets off the road he looks at it. there not all violent. there are stories about all different kinds of struggles through life. and if you know what you was talking about 99% of the time there true stories. baby i hope im not sound sarcastic don't knock it till you tried it. that just like me i don't like chitling tried it still dont like it. but one day someone will cook some for me that right and maybe i'll grow to love it. so try to approach it like my chitling example. in due time you'll be beating your significant other to the t.v. or telling your friends you cant watch the Dirty Birds because Lifetime on. oh sorry about the Dirty Birds I'm a falcon fan all the way getting off the subject.:hearts2:

HoneyBrown05
11-15-2005, 01:58 PM
I like watching Lifetime because the majority of the movies are based on real life stories and you can learn and take something positive from it. But I don't watch it all the time because some of the stories can make you cry!

GmoneyP2010
11-15-2005, 03:10 PM
I LOOK at it as a promotion for lesbianism.......SATAN is the prince of the power of the airwaves so i am not surprised at anything i see on TV, his main objective is to kill,rob,distroy.....Those days when you had the stuff on tv that had good moral values are gone and thats a shame.Sheryl Swoopes of the NBA married for 8 yrs with one son fell for the hype and now she is gettin ready to marry another woman which was her coach and she is proud of it 20 yrs ago you didnt see sistas acting in that manner because in the HOOD it wasnt tolerated. These days menhave to worry about another woman hittin on they wives, lol i cant type anymore.

Tantrum
03-03-2006, 11:05 AM
I dont think I have ever been with a woman
Who didnt watch lifetime
Its super crazy there like just locked
Unto the screen like a good football game
Hmmmm-Interesting

panafrica
03-03-2006, 11:40 AM
I dont think I have ever been with a woman
Who didnt watch lifetime
Its super crazy there like just locked
Unto the screen like a good football game
Hmmmm-Interesting

Mine watches Brazilian soap operas on Telemundo.

MississippiRed
03-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Mine watches Brazilian soap operas on Telemundo.


Man Telemundo and Univision are the best tv channels ever.........ever...............E V E R .......a homeboy of mine moved out to Dallas when I lived there was down on his luck so I told him he could stay with me till he got it back together..........I told that fool about them channels and at first he was like...."aight man whatever" ....one day I rolled in after work and his ***** was sitting there watching Ritmo Noche.... ...talkin bout BOY ! This henh is the best ish ever.......I can't speak a lick o Spanish but this stuff it FI .........LOL.......again Love it .......


Red

PoeticManifesta
03-03-2006, 02:06 PM
Lifetime.. should be sued.. for entrapping minds in drama. You cant just sit n watch one movie.. your going to be stuck watching at least 2.5-4 movies....
its for women..
but its also.. very addictive.
there should be an scientific study done on that channel...

cursed heart
03-03-2006, 02:10 PM
Lifetime.. should be sued.. for entrapping minds in drama. You cant just sit n watch one movie.. your going to be stuck watching at least 2.5-4 movies....
its for women..
but its also.. very addictive.
there should be an scientific study done on that channel...

It's an excellent channel!
I have two lifetime stations,:love:

oldiesman
03-04-2006, 09:49 AM
yes i have the channel,but the movies are no more different from the other channels and the ladies enjoy it,so as long as i got[espn]my wife can enjoy her[lifetime].

nevar
03-04-2006, 10:01 AM
spicy i found the unsolved mysteries in walmart for 20.00. it was the bizarre murders and ghosts. i love me some unsolved too bad that man died not too long ago. someone need to fill his shoes to revive that show.

Sweet baby_face
04-04-2006, 01:27 PM
Lifetime channel is depressing. It is beyond me how a woman can sit and watch those depressing movies back to back.

I love USA channel and the Law and Order marathons.
Law and Order is my show!!!
I watch SVU,Criminal Intent,and the
original Law and Order.I gotta be completely
bored to watch the Lifetime Channel.

spicybrown
04-04-2006, 01:50 PM
spicy i found the unsolved mysteries in walmart for 20.00. it was the bizarre murders and ghosts. i love me some unsolved too bad that man died not too long ago. someone need to fill his shoes to revive that show.

$20 atWalmart? lol..I watched that show every Wednesday night since I was 10. Remember thatcreepyt music that made you sleep with the blanket over your head, and those scary aliens........*whew*......had me starin at my closet door at night! I'll most def look into that. I like solving the "unsloved murder" mysteries. John Walsh can take Robert Stack's place, IMO. Naaa, John will probably solve the mystery as he hosts the show:( Thx Nevar for the heads up:)

triniti424
04-04-2006, 02:52 PM
I've never watched lifetime. I've seen commercials on other channels for movies FEATURED on lifetime and that was enough for me smh NO THANK YOU *boooooooooooooo* lol

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