I'M NOTICING A TREND THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE PROMINENT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. I'M SEEING A LOT OF BLACK WOMEN WHO CLAIM TO BE EITHER BISEXUAL OR LESBIAN. WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S THE DEAL HERE?
IS THIS SOME FORM OF MOVEMENT? ARE Y'ALL REBELLING AGAINST US BROTHERS OR WHAT? OR IS THIS YOUR WAY OF EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS. ( PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO AN INTERRACIAL DATING THREAD PLEEEASSSEE!!!!) ALSO, WHY ARE SO MANY FEMMININE BEAUTIFUL SISTERS HOOKING UP WITH MASCULINE TYPE WOMEN THAT LOOK LIKE SOME KIND OF MALE SUBSTITUTE.

more folks are coming out of the closet these days.
i think that is a good thing.

it's the same as it always was, you just didn't know about it before.

Black Lesbians is cool, I usually turn them Bi if they are interested.

its allot of fony ones too.. women who got like 5 kids and claim they gay... many in atl like that...

some reasons:
might be how they like...
jus want attn...
guys like it .. sometimes...
"a woman knows a woman"
a phase....
confused....
misused....
gave up on finding a "good" man....
it jus happened....lol

idk jus some of my thots...

MANASIAC- thats prolly a reason y they "lie".... to get that response..lol

IMO...this is not a new thing , its a old thang.... its been goin on for years. just not in the opening. to each they own i guess. they are human just like us!!!!..

I don't care one way or another. If I meet a woman that is lesbian or bi or bi-curious, i just want her to be honest so I can leave her alone. I don't have time to compete with women. :nono: I have a relative that just (a year ago) found out his wife was lesbian or bi or whatever. They divorced and she moved in with this chick. They were married almost 20 years and have 2 kids together. Either way, people go through phases and want to try whatever. I also think it's a fad because people seem to feel like it's just the thing to say or be (lesbian or bicurious).

YUCK!

But to each his own.

There are a pack of gay women who look like BIG MALE THUGS who are going around Seattle bullying other women. There are rumors they gang rape women but I haven't heard of them being charged with anything.

YUCK!

But to each his own.

There are a pack of gay women who look like BIG MALE THUGS who are going around Seattle bullying other women. There are rumors they gang rape women but I haven't heard of them being charged with anything.
if they gang rape anyone, they should be charged with a 9mm.

YUCK!



YUCK INDEED!!! WHAT'S WITH THE PURPLE LETTERS?

Purple is my favorite color.

its cool long as theyre not the butch type

I know roc. LOL

Triple Yuck. When I was in basic-training, there were a lot of them! Some were trying to come out the closet all quiet and shy about it but then there were some BOLD ones! We had to shower in "communal showers" big open space with 15-20 shower heads. NO STALLS. NO PRIVACY. Very common in the military. You get used to it. But I never got used to being in there with those "he-shes" Made a sister feel VIOLATED. -And let me say, I NEVER DROPPED MY SOAP! We couldn't complain about it. But I used to be PISSED! Just thinking about it....YyyUUUCCK!

everybody likes a different flavor, I guess. Although, i have noticed that trend, too. Some of my friends, whom I've known for years, and one of my cousins, all came out of the closet when we were in college. *shrugs* Don't bother me none..... My policy is the same for all people: leave me alone, I leave you alone.

just like the growing number of black men on the DL, although this is nothing new, however IMHO someone or thing is controlling our behaviour unwittingly. This may not sound politically correct. But looking at the history of our enemy's preoccupation with dividing the black man and woman in this country, it would not surprise me that mind control plays a part in this, "coming out of the closet" phenomena

just like the growing number of black men on the DL, although this is nothing new, however IMHO someone or thing is controlling our behaviour unwittingly. This may not sound politically correct. But looking at the history of our enemy's preoccupation with dividing the black man and woman in this country, it would not surprise me that mind control plays a part in this, "coming out of the closet" phenomena

Sekhemu, the "epidemic" of Black men living the DL lifestyle is a myth! Are there undercover Black homosexuals? The answer would have to be yes. However, there are also undercover Black female homos (as this thread suggests). The DL is a myth being pushed by the media in their age old attempts to denigrate Black sexuality and people. It’s also a part of the on going effort to link Blacks to the HIV "pandemic" (which is a hoax, but that's a different story). By pushing the "homosexuality" of the Black male they claim that it is us men who are promiscuously passing on the disease to our women and destroying our own community. This—like you stated above—has the effect of dividing the Black man and woman; because the woman distrusts having sex with man because she fears catching some thing. Now, if men and women are not copulating, that means no babies are being born. And that's what this ultimately comes down to...POPULATION CONTROL!!!

BTW, with the revelation by New Jersey Governor, James McGreevy, that he was having homosexual relationships whilst married...why isn't there any talk by the media of White men on the DL? Oh let me guess, it's only a "Black" problem isn't it? Yeah right!

the "epidemic" of Black men living the DL lifestyle is a myth! Are there undercover Black homosexuals? The answer would have to be yes. However, there are also undercover Black female homos (as this thread suggests). The DL is myth being pushed by the media in their age old attempts to denigrate Black sexuality and people. Its also a part of the on going effort to link Blacks to the HIV "pandemic" (which is a hoax, but that's a different story). By pushing the "homosexuality" of the Black male they claim that it is us men who are promiscuously passing on the disease to our women and destroying our own community. This--like you stated above--has the effect of dividing the Black man and woman; because the woman distrusts having sex with man because she fears catching some thing. Now, if men and women are not copulating, that means no babies are being born. And that's what this ultimately comes down to...POPULATION CONTROL!!!

This is pretty much my take on the "DL" issue brother Chukwuemeka.

Sekhemu, the "epidemic" of Black men living the DL lifestyle is a myth! Are there undercover Black homosexuals? The answer would have to be yes. However, there are also undercover Black female homos (as this thread suggests). The DL is myth being pushed by the media in their age old attempts to denigrate Black sexuality and people. Its also a part of the on going effort to link Blacks to the HIV "pandemic" (which is a hoax, but that's a different story). By pushing the "homosexuality" of the Black male they claim that it is us men who are promiscuously passing on the disease to our women and destroying our own community. This--like you stated above--has the effect of dividing the Black man and woman; because the woman distrusts having sex with man because she fears catching some thing. Now, if men and women are not copulating, that means no babies are being born. And that's what this ultimately comes down to...POPULATION CONTROL!!!

BTW, with the revelation by New Jersey Governor, James McGreevy, that he was having homosexual relationships whilst married...why isn't there any talk by the media of White men on the DL? Oh let me guess, it's only a "Black" problem isn't it? Yeah right!

amen brother!!!

This is going to sound extremely contrived but homosexuality could (I believe it is) a strong unifying agent between whites and blacks. After all, it's both colours (all colours) that are being demonized by society for being homosexual. Gay's period are being viewed as the reason for HIV whether they be black, white or asian. You may be right in that it is a subversive way to destroy a culture, that I don't know because I haven't experienced that and I may be unwillingly ignorant to the signs. I do know however, that homosexuals are demonized regardless of their colour. Which, as someone who's sick at society, finds absolutely hilarious + sad because here we still are pushing apartheid in America (Great articles on that at The Black Commentator) but now we're pushing segregation of homosexuals.

You are right Earth this sounds both contrived and naive. Perhaps you may not be aware if this, but J. Edgar Hoover was gay, and he was one of the biggest racist & oppressors of African Americans in the 20th century. I fail to see how homosexuality can bridge the racial divide when other areas such as nationalism & inter-racial dating/marriage has not? Furthermore I fail to see why it should: A homosexual white male is still a white male (entitled to the benefits and rights of "white society), and their sexual orientation does little to change this fact. Their ancestors still oppressed blacks; they are part of the corporate structure which continues to abuse blacks. Yet you believe since white homosexuals practice the same bedroom rituals as black homosexuals...suddenly they'll get along? Yea Right! While homosexuals face some discrimination, it pales in comparision to the oppression that African Americans have faced historically (and continue to face today).

[QUOTE=earth]panafrica: as I said it is probably unknowingly being ignorant. I appreciate being educated on things such as these.

Going on what you said; nationalism will unite no one. nationalism is just another form of ignorance, on the global scale. It should be wiped out. Inter-racial dating + marriage should, and is, removing the racial divide.
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LET ME EDUCATE YOU SOME MORE EARTH. INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS HAVE NEVER UNITED US WITH YOU. WHITE MEN MARRIED BLACK WOMEN AND PROFESSED UNDYING LOVE FOR THESE WOMEN,YET STILL BRUTALIZED AND ENSLAVED OTHER BLACK PEOPLE. WHITE HOMOSEXUALS STILL HAVE SOMETHING BLACK HOMOSEXUALS DON'T HAVE, AND THAT'S A WHITE PASS. AS FOR BLACK NATIONALISM, IT ISN'T MEANT TO UNITE US WITH YOU, IT'S TO UNITE US WITH US. GET IT?
HOPE YOU'RE A LITTLE LESS NAIVE NOW.

THAT'S MY "BIG" OPINION.

I agree with everything you say. But I have a question, not necessarily for you, just thinking to myself. If a white man marries a black woman (or black man a white woman) that to me would mean they are a bit more in tune with equality. Yes, they are still part of a system that oppresses minority + poor people. So could this be a difference between social equality + financial equality? After all, these people feel for a social equality (marrying outside of their race) yet they're supporting a system that is against financial equality... Sorry, I'm just going through it in my head while I type. You bring up some very good points bigtown.

You mean like Thomas Jefferson & Sally Hemmings right? Or maybe you were referring to the white police officer who sodomized Louima (he was engaged to a black woman)? Just because a white man is married/dating a black woman doesn't mean he isn't prejudiced, it simply means that he is attracted to that particular person. However this man can still feel that blacks as a people are inferior...he can still oppress black people. Again Earth you are being naive. Indeed I dare say you are putting yourself into debates which you can't possibly understand. I always use the analogy that a white person who says they understand racism is like a man saying he understand what childbirth is like. This is impossible because you can not understand a situation that you don't experience. You might be able to sympathize....but you don't understand it. Maybe you might want to think about that one!

BTW, with the revelation by New Jersey Governor, James McGreevy, that he was having homosexual relationships whilst married...why isn't there any talk by the media of White men on the DL? Oh let me guess, it's only a "Black" problem isn't it? Yeah right!

It's funny because I was watching this guys resignation on TV this morning and he almost tried to make it sound like what he was doing is honorable and natural. He was d@mn near grinning while saying it (at least that's what I saw). I do think it's a plot to make black men look bad (once again) for something that every other race is also doing. It's true...every other gay race is just gay...but we are gay on the DL. Like all black men are walking around a normal men and then at night sneaking off into an alley to have sex with men.

[QUOTE=earth]1. Am I the only one that finds the overuse of caps extremely insulting + beligerant? QUOTE]


YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING BUB. AS FAR AS BEING HARD FOR YOU TO READ THAT SOUNDS PERSONAL. IF OTHERS COMPLAIN, I'LL STOP.

I may not truly understand racism because I've never experienced it. Does that mean that I'm better off not trying to understand racism? I may be naive but at least I'm making an attempt to learn. Which is a lot more than I can say for a lot of people, regardless of what their colour is.

Earth ... with all due respect, at this point it makes me no difference if you or any White person takes the time to understand racism. As a matter of fact, i've found that when White folk try to "understand" Black folk, or any of the weapons of mass destruction they've put upon us for centuries (which seems ridiculous in and of itself) ... it causes us to lose our focus ... for we must now stop our forward movement to help you understand us, and what "you" have been doing to us. It's a great waste of our time, for regardless of if you or some other handful of White folk ever "understand" ... it changes nothing for us ... for we must still deal with the great injuries, assaults, and deaths taking place daily.

While i admire your desire to understand, you do us a great disservice expecting us to stop and teach you ... at least in this forum ... because we are trying to teach each other how to overcome these atrocities, and save / better our lives and the lives of our children. So time given to your lessons, is time taken from ours.

I'm sure if you really want the best for us, you'll take these words in the Spirit in which they are shared.

:heart:

Destee

Earth ... with all due respect, at this point it makes me no difference if you or any White person takes the time to understand racism. As a matter of fact, i've found that when White folk try to "understand" Black folk, or any of the weapons of mass destruction they've put upon us for centuries (which seems ridiculous in and of itself) ... it causes us to lose our focus ... for we must now stop our forward movement to help you understand us, and what "you" have been doing to us. It's a great waste of our time, for regardless of if you or some other handful of White folk ever "understand" ... it changes nothing for us ... for we must still deal with the great injuries, assaults, and deaths taking place daily.

While i admire your desire to understand, you do us a great disservice expecting us to stop and teach you ... at least in this forum ... because we are trying to teach each other how to overcome these atrocities, and save / better our lives and the lives of our children. So time given to your lessons, is time taken from ours.

I'm sure if you really want the best for us, you'll take these words in the Spirit in which they are shared.

:heart:

Destee


Excellent, Excellent points. My sentiments exactly. I think white folks who claim that they want to "understand" what blacks are going through would do well to try to convince there fellow whites to try and understand their ways with respect to how they treat us.

But we know they ain't gonna do that. However I've veered off the topic. Someone in the thread made the point that I agree with, that it seems that there are a growing number of black lesbians, or at least more and more of them are coming out of the closet. True. There was a time when if two women walked down the street as a couple they would get beat up, the same things with men. While I will say that today this type of assault is not the norm, it is improving.

However I still get this rotten in the cotton feeling to this phenomena. One member in the thread suggested that this all boils down to population control. I couldn't agree with him more

I think gay black females are kinda kool. Some even look sexy wearing throwbacks, fitted hats, baggy jeans and jordans

Do ya think that it might be even remotely possible that as we sit and focus on who is sleeping with and loving who, that as we use our precious and collective brainpower to wonder about these types of things, we might just be digging our heels in deeper into the American status quo as it relates to the condition of Blacks in America and the African Diaspora? People, if they ain't sleeping with you or want you, then what does it truly matter? If you had to take a best guess, which one do you think would harm you more, a lesbian or a racist?

Just a thought,
Queenie :spinstar:

How did a thrad on Black Lesbians become a thread on Black Male Homosexuals?

Did anyone read The Color Purple? Or see the movie? Some black women are sticking with women because maybe they are sick and tired of being abused by men, or because they have grew out of comfort with a man. I won't say that it is a black problem, because you people know as well as I know that that is a fluke. Besides, EVERY RACE has a bi-sexual group of people, not just us. If black women are comfortable being with other women because they are uncomfortable around men, then I can accept that. But just don't think of it in a way that black women are the only ones who can be lesbians; all cultures do it.

I also highly believe in that very point about Population Control. It will be the group of people that take the most interest in Homosexuality and Bisexualilty that goes to the bottom of the pyramid. We need to be strong black brothas-n-sistahs who have an affinity for cultural success, not cultural deterioration. Do we want our youth growing up thinking that it is okay to engage in homoseuxal activity? Or do we want them serve as leaders who can make a difference in the way we are treated in this world? Because if I can flash back to last year in my High School, I could not believe the amount of lesbian activity that I encountered. Nobody had a problem with it.
Is that how we want our future to be about black homosexuality? How about keeping it to a minimum? Or how about controlling the homosexual activity before it controls us?

Just a few thoughts!

Cedric Denson