“To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under the Heavens: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted.” (Ecclesiastes 3:1-2)

If mankind understood and held in obeisance this great universal law – said by Ecclesiastes the Preacher some 3000 years ago – the word “abortion” would be nonexistent in terms of human life. And so would the births of deformed, mentally deranged, and/or physically handicapped human beings, which are – unfortunately (and in real terms) – aberrations of nature...

These kinds of unnatural births would not occur if mankind realized that the universal law that is embodied in this profound Biblical verse is also applicable in the propagation of the human species...

“A Time to Plant”

To be assured of a good harvest, the farmer selects the best soil for his crop and the best time to plant his seed. The best time involves the zodiac sign the Moon is in and its phases. A bad crop is assured if he plants his seed in bad soil – or if he selects good soil but plants his seed at the wrong time...

The same principles apply in the generation of human life, for – just as in all other forms of life – man too, has a mating season. And, like the farmer, if man deposits his seed in bad soil (i.e., an incompatible or unhealthy female), or at the wrong time, his offspring will be bad – at best mediocre...

65% of all people born under the sign Cancer (June 21-July 22) are physical weaklings from birth. Anyone can verify this from the birthdays of friends and acquaintances. Remember, however, that 35% are not weaklings. The reason so many (although they may live quite beyond the average) are never well and almost constantly manifest some symptom or other is because they are born with a deficiency of calcium fluoride (the Cancer mineral) and calcium phosphate (the Capricorn mineral). Capricorn is the polar opposite of Cancer. Most Cancer people are born undernourished because they do not have sufficient corpuscles created by the spleen...

Because Cancer is the natural conception sign, it is unnatural to be born during this period (i.e., between June 21st and July 22nd). One is working against nature, and consequently suffers in health...

If birth occurs when the Sun is in Cancer, conception would have had to occur during the Sun’s transit of Libra, the sign of its fall and therefore its weakest sign position. The Sun is weak in Libra because at this time of the year (September 23-October 23) the Sun is shorn of its power. It prepares to go down into the darkness and coldness of winter, for heat is withdrawn into the earth. Man is not to copulate for purposes of procreation during this time...

Man's mating season (for purposes of procreation) is during the Sun's transit of the sign Cancer (June 21-July 22), when the Sun is in the zenith of the Heavens. Its rays are most direct and hottest at this time, and therefore this is the most propitious time to conceive...

“A Time to Be Born...”

If conception occurs when the Sun is in Cancer, birth occurs when the Sun is in Aries (March 20th-April 20th), the first sign of the zodiac. Aries people are fiery and born leaders, because the ego is brought to birth at the resurrection time of nature, in the spring, when cosmic forces are most powerful and the intake of vital energy by the physical body is very great. Those born during this time of the year are energetic and possess a great supply of reserve energy. And although some are described as delicate looking, they are surprisingly strong and have wonderful recuperative powers...

It is said in The 6th and 7th Books of Moses that: “In Aries, the sign of the Ram, the vegetables of earth obtain new vigor, the trees sap and females become better adapted to propagate the human species. In this sign the fecundity of all creatures is limited and regulated.” Thus if conception occurs when the Sun is in Aries – the sign of the Sun’s exaltation – birth occurs when the Sun is in Capricorn (December 22-January 19), the sign of the statesman and the diplomat...

There are many wonderful egos awaiting birth, and when conception is no longer subjected to unbridled lust; when two people who truly love and respect each other wish for children, they will not only make careful preparations by correcting chemical deficiencies, but will choose that time when nature brings all things to birth. How many are there today who are EVEN THINKING ABOUT SUCH A PLAN? The answer to this question gives us the key to the present chaotic condition of humanity...

The following table provides the complete cosmic information, showing both the favorable and unfavorable times of the year for conception:

Conception......................... Progeny

Aries (3/20-4/20)*...................Capricorn
Taurus (4/21-5/21)...................Aquarius
Gemini (5/22-6/21)...................Pisces
Cancer (6/22-7/23)**.................Aries
Leo (7/24-8/23)***...................Taurus
Virgo (8/24-9/23)....................Gemini
Libra (9/24-10/23)****...............Cancer
Scorpio (10/24-11/22)................Leo
Sagittarius (11/23-12/21)............Virgo
Capricorn (12/22-1/20)...............Libra
Aquarius (1/21-2/19)*****............Scorpio
Pisces (2/20-3/20)...................Sagittarius


*The exaltation of the Sun – a most propitious time to conceive...:love:

**The dignity of the Moon, i.e., man’s mating season – the most propitious time to conceive...:love:

***The dignity of the Sun – a most propitious time to conceive...:love:

**** The fall of the Sun – man is not to conceive during this time...:nono:

*****The detriment of the Sun – an unfavorable time to conceive...:nono:


“To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under the Heavens: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted...”

(Ecclesiastes 3:1-2)

The Sun entered the zodiac sign Pisces on Feb. 20. According to the above conception chart those of you who are potential parents and/or desire a Sagittarian child should plan to conceive while the Sun is in Pisces (Feb. 20-March 20)...


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The Sun entered the zodiac sign Aries on March 20th. According to the above conception chart those of you who are potential parents and/or desire a Capricorn child should plan to conceive while the Sun is in Aries (March 20-April 21). This is a most propitious time to conceive (see chart), because the Sun is exalted in Aries...

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The Sun entered the earth sign Taurus on Friday, April 20th. According to the above conception chart those of you who are potential parents and/or desire an Aquarian child should plan to conceive while the Sun is in Taurus (4/20-5/21)...

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The Sun entered the sign Gemini on May 20th. Those of you who are potential parents and/or desire aPisces child should conceive while the Sun is in Gemini (5/20-6/21)...

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The Sun entered the cardinal water sign Cancer on June 22nd. At this time the Sun reaches its highest point in the Heavens, thus it is the most propitious time to conceive. According to the conception chart, those of you who are potential parents and/or desire anAries child should conceive while the Sun is in Cancer (6/22-7/22)...

as a gimini and my mate is sagitarius
we should mate in da fith month of da year
to asure a good harvest ????
or when is our best tyme for good harvest????:rolleyes:

As an air (Gemini) and fire (Sagittarius)-sign couple, the two of you should plan to have air and/or fire sign offspring. Here is the conception information:


Conception......................... Progeny


Taurus (4/21-5/21)...................Aquarius

Cancer (6/22-7/23)**.................Aries

Virgo (8/24-9/23)....................Gemini

Scorpio (10/24-11/22)................Leo

Capricorn (12/22-1/20)...............Libra

Pisces (2/20-3/20)...................Sagittarius


**The dignity of the Moon, i.e., man’s mating season – the most propitious time to conceive...

Thanks .................i see now !

You're quite welcome, RICH...

The Sun entered the sign Aries on March 21st. According to the conception chart, those of you who are potential parents and/or desire a Capricorn child should conceive when the Sun is in Aries (3/20-4/21)...

The Sun is exalted in Aries, thus this is a most propitious time to conceive...

The Sun entered the sign Taurus on April 21st. According to the conception chart, those of you who are potential parents and/or mothers who desire an Aquarian child should conceive while the Sun in in Taurus (4/21-5/21)...

hey i was wondering why are so many babies born on the full
moon ???

I am unaware of this, Rich...what is the source of your information?

The Sun entered the sign Gemini on May 21st. According to the conception chart, those of you who are potential parents and/or mothers who desire a Pisces child should conceive while the Sun in in Gemini (5/21-6/21)...

The Sun enters the sign Cancer today (June 21st). According to the conception chart, this is the most propitious time to conceive. Those of you who are potential parents and/or mothers who desire an Aries child should conceive while the Sun in in Cancer (6/21-7/22)...

The Sun entered the sign Leo on July 23rd. According to the conception chart this is also a most propitious time to conceive, because the Sun in dignified in the sign Leo. Those of you who are potential parents and/or mothers who desire a Taurus child should conceive while the Sun is in Leo (7/23-8/23)...

this was soo slick, Aqil, your a genius! yes that further explains why cancer and scorpio folks are so troubled...hmmm:eek:

The Sun entered the sign Virgo on August 23rd. According to the conception chart, those of you who are potential parents and/or mothers who desire a Gemini child should conceive while the Sun is in Virgo (8/23-9/23)...

The Sun enters the sign Libra on Tuesday, Sept. 23rd. According to the conception chart this is not a propitious time to conceive, because the Sun is in its fall (meaning its weakest sign position) in Libra. However, those potential parents/mothers who desire a Cancer child should conceive while the Sun is in Libra (9/23-10/23)...

Footnote: Because Cancer is the natural conception sign, it is unnatural to be born during this period (i.e., between June 21st and July 22nd). One is working against nature, and consequently suffers in health...

If birth occurs when the Sun is in Cancer, conception would have had to occur during the Sun’s transit of Libra, the sign of its fall and therefore its weakest sign position. The Sun is weak in Libra because at this time of the year (9/23-10/23) the Sun is shorn of its power. It prepares to go down into the darkness and coldness of winter, for heat is withdrawn into the earth. Man is not supposed to copulate for purposes of procreation during this time...

I didn't quite understand, mabey I need to re-read in a quiet place, but it was very good.

Aqil, i see that you have a conception guide for all those desiring an air/fire sign baby- but what about those of us who are earth/water signs,certainly we would want our family life to blend smoothly as well...where's our chart my Brotha'???? :confused:

The information you seek is on p.1 of this thread...the conception times for all the signs are indicated there...

Hey Aqil! thanks for answereing my que.i guess what i was tryin'ta ask was is there anything wrong with wanting to have a scorpio or cancer child? are you trying to say that they will be sickly because they were conceived @ the wrong time? i think that every sign can be very sickly- my aunt is an aries,she is very sick right now and has always been prone to sickness.i thought that they were strong, energetic individuals Aqil-whut's tha'deal?

ASTROLOGICAL BIRTH CONTROL

Interest in astrological birth control was first sparked in recent times by Dr. Eugene Jonas, who developed the system of birth control and sex selection presently available to the public. The ancient Assyrian/Babylonian assertion, "Woman is fertile during a certain phase of the Moon," gave Dr. Jonas a starting point in his search for an understanding of human fertility. After much thought and calculation in search for a set of laws, Dr. Jonas arrived at a tentative conclusion and set out to statistically verify it.

This was done by using the birth weight and birth times of infants to determine their sex. For example, by knowing the birth date of the mother, Jonas knew the day of each month when she was most fertile. By knowing the birth time and weight of the newborn infants, Jonas was able to calculate the approximate time of conception. The exact day of conception was the woman’s fertile day that was closest to the approximate time of conception. The sign position of the Moon on the day of conception indicates the sex of the child. The positive signs (i.e., the air and fire signs) indicated a male child, and negative signs (i.e., the earth and water signs) indicated a female child.

Work with hospital records showed him to be 87% correct in his predictions. The difficult thing was to convince others that his system deserved further research and financial support. After a prolonged struggle with narrow-minded bureaucrats, Jonas gained some influential supporters who were convinced by statistical evidence that his system worked. Astra, a government-funded research group, was created. Dr. Jonas, head of Astra, conducted computerized researches into aspects of human fertility that went far beyond what we presently know about his system. This additional information, the fruits of Jonas' research, is unavailable. When the Russians invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, Dr. Jonas was silenced. We may never know what refinements he may have devised and never released. Here is the Jonas System in brief:

1. Prevention of Conception

(a) The cosmic fertility period occurs each time the Sun and Moon are in the same angular relationship that they were in when the woman was born. When the Sun and Moon form this angle once every 28 days, a woman is at her most fertile time for conception. She is also considered fertile for 2 days before this time. This is necessary since sperm can live 2 days before it is considered sufficient. Three or four days before is usually safe, but avoided for extra caution.

(b) The regular monthly ovulation cycle as used by the Catholic Church is also used in the Jonas System. This is the time halfway between the beginnings of two menstrual periods. Three days before and three days after should definitely be avoided. A full 7 days before and after is avoided for extra caution. This period is not considered as fertile as the cosmic fertility period.

2. Sex Determination (choosing male or female child)

The sex of a child may be chosen by planning conception so that it will occur with the Moon in a feminine sign (if a girl is desired) or a masculine sign (if a boy is desired). Feminine signs are noted by the negative symbol (-) on the solar lunar calendar, and the male signs are noted by the positive symbol (+). In order for a male child to be born, copulation should occur one day before the cosmic fertility day, when the Moon is in a masculine sign at the cosmic fertility time. Note that copulation could occur in a female sign and conception could occur in a male sign. This method cannot be used during a woman’s monthly ovulation cycle since the exact time of fertility is not known during this period.

Originally my, intention in writing this article was to present the Jonas method of astrological birth control and show you how to implement it through the use of the solar lunar calendar. Since then evidence of its failure has changed my mind. A member of Katharsis who used the Jonas method for two years recently conceived on a safe day according to Jonas. The Jonas system of birth prevention is supposed to be 97% accurate. Of course this indicated that the system would fail in 3% of the cases. Perhaps our failure was within this 3%. But we have no knowledge of solid statistical evidence to prove this. Jonas' records were confiscated, so we don't know how he got his proof and what relevance his data really has. More and more astrologers have been telling me Jonas's system has failed in many cases.

At the American Federation of Astrologers Convention in San Francisco I met Douglas Miller, who has developed a system of astrological birth control that goes beyond what we know about Jonas' method. Miller says that there are other fertile days besides the ones Jonas gives. These are related to other planets and other Moon phases. It is presently the only alternative we know of to the Jonas method.

Miller claims that every conception he has ever heard of has occurred on one of his fertile days. He admits, though, that his system needs more refinements and statistical verification. We recommend reading Miller's book for those interested in astrological birth control. The title is Lady, I Have Your Number, and is available from the American Federation of Astrologers, 6 Library Court, Washington, DC 20003.

Here is Miller's system in brief:

A woman is fertile on the day described by Jonas, and also on other phases of the Moon, depending upon the solstice point of her Moon at birth. The solstice point is the sign position that is an equal distance from the Solstices (0º Cancer and 0º Capricorn) as the planet is on the opposite side. For example, the solstice point of 10º Cancer is 20º Gemini – both are 10º away from the Solstice. Miller says that women can conceive when the Moon or its solstice point form an angle a woman had at birth between her Moon or its solstice point and the Sun.

Other factors necessary for conception:

1. The transiting Sun, Mars or Jupiter must form a conjunction, square or opposition to the birth positions of the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Ascendant or Midheaven.

2. The transiting Sun, Mars or Jupiter must form parallel aspects to the birth positions of the Sun, Mars or Jupiter. A parallel exists when two planets are within 2º of each other by declination.

3. Transiting Venus will almost always make a conjunction, square or opposition to the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Ascendant or Midheaven at birth. If this does not occur, a 45, 135, 225 or 315-degree angle will occur.

(For simplified instructions and related techniques, read The Natural Birth Control Book, Tao Publications, Boston, MA. For more extensive information on Dr. Jonas, read Natural Birth Control by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder, Bantam Books.)

again thankz .......but i better stop on the kids now !
guess i'll mate in between the dates and time /signs

Elder Brother Aqil... Our ancestors have guided me here, to your thread.

I had just seen a lecture by Sister/Elder Pookrum two days ago, where she, to my joy and surprise touched in on the subject of ovarian and testicular breathing, moon/sun angles (it seems you are very knowledgable on this?) etc. This is something I have been increasingly interested in for some time now, I actually decided to cease all sexual activites until I had found out how to utilize this technique, or just found out more about it.

So, I searched the internet (which is full of Caucasian sites, to my dismay) looking for info on it. There's a vast library about this subject, and I have issues with trusting non-Afrikan sources and people I don't know, escpecially when they keep referring to some German or Hungarian astronomer as the scientist behind the sun/moon angle. Prepostorous...

But now I have found you and this thread (by chance...no, by fate) Brother Aqil!

Thanks be to our ancestors!

I will read through this thread, and if I have any questions I hope that you wil aid me in finding any answers I might have. Perhaps in a more private setting than this? Mail, for instance.

Give thanks!

~Ikoro

And suddenly Ikoro notices that the last post in this thread was from 2004!

....*whistles*

*goes to track down Elder Aqil*

~Ikoro