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Blackbird
02-14-2004, 01:23 AM
Alafia, Hetepu, Kayira be, Shalom, Salaam, Ma adwo, Peace and Greetings,

The Wolof of Senegal say "one person's medicine is another person." I think this is similar to "I am because we are, and because we are - therefore I am." As I walk this path, I believe all our paths are ones of healing - paths of becoming whole and one. So as our paths are paths of healing, I believe we all are healers.

I was wondering what do you think your role is as a healer? Or what methods if any do you use to heal?

Blackbird

Alexandra
04-21-2009, 02:57 PM
Alafia, Hetepu, Kayira be, Shalom, Salaam, Ma adwo, Peace and Greetings,

The Wolof of Senegal say "one person's medicine is another person." I think this is similar to "I am because we are, and because we are - therefore I am." As I walk this path, I believe all our paths are ones of healing - paths of becoming whole and one. So as our paths are paths of healing, I believe we all are healers.

I was wondering what do you think your role is as a healer? Or what methods if any do you use to heal?

Blackbird

Bump!

Alexandra

Blackbird
04-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Bump!

Alexandra

Thanks for reviving this thread. You must have been digging in the archives for that one. This was one of my first posts on Destee.

Here's where I'm at now. I'm pretty much the same. We all have paths of healing.

Hopefully others will contribute.

Blackbird

Knowledge Seed
04-21-2009, 04:58 PM
I don't heal. I hex..............Ok, maybe I do a lil of both. lol

Blackbird
04-21-2009, 05:08 PM
I don't heal. I hex..............Ok, maybe I do a lil of both. lol

The art to healing is knowing what destroys. A true person knows when it's appropriate to do one or the other. I don't hex (that's so European). I jinx and cross but as my Uncle Issac used to say, "What good is crossing if you can't uncross because in the end you'll only end up crisscrossing yourself into some b/s and that would not be good."

Hold the keys to life and death - healing is always for more powerful than destroying.

Blackbird

phynxofkmt
04-21-2009, 05:30 PM
as a healer. I became a massage therapist and then received attunement to Reiki, which really heightened my energy flow. I don't work in the field anymore. When I did, I allowed my body to listen, and once the patient was relaxed I could hear their stress, areas of concern or blockages.

I also pursued belief re-patterning where you identify the emotions that negatively affect you, and replace them with something more facilitating.

Every healing course I took all said the same thing though, that our services were valuable, and that we must accept our right to abundant compensation.

I feel discouraged on this path because I feel that money can interfere with what is meant to be restorative. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with a fair exchange, but there ought to be a realization that our work can be done for those most in need and without $$$ to exchange.

Furthermore, I feel a sense of profound urgency that gets tangled up with economy. If healers from all walks of life really insisted on saving our planet, we would find a creative means (outside of the current $$$) to support ourselves while attending to the ailments that really need care. (still wracking my head on this one)

Sometimes we are rewarded by helping others by the universe which is more aware of our efforts. With that said, I also had to re-pattern a vow of poverty that I had taken many lifetimes ago.

I strongly believed at the time, that massage therapy and belief re-patterning, along with hypnosis could actually rehabilitate our sons and daughters in the criminal justice system. Although this theory would not apply to every single person, cuz some people like hurting others and their souls are damaged beyond the scope of healing in one lifetime.

Even though I don't practice anymore, I am studying herbalism, and also work with gemstones, aruveydic diet and a weird form of feng shui that I haven't classified yet.

tyab14
04-21-2009, 05:36 PM
Great thread..

I'm very much into healing, and what I am learning right now is the West African approach, which includes herbs and spirits. But I also like just any traditional herbs, and also power plants, like I said in an earlier thread, I met a brother who calls himself a faith healer and son on Kobayende, who got me interested in traditional shamanistic healing.

Looking forward to see what everyone else has to say.

Sister Phynx that hypnosis, massage therapy, belief re-patterning sounds like a great idea!

P.S. I agree healing is more powerful then destroying....

Blackbird
04-21-2009, 05:52 PM
Great thread..

I'm very much into healing, and what I am learning right now is the West African approach, which includes herbs and spirits. But I also like just any traditional herbs, and also power plants, like I said in an earlier thread, I met a brother who calls himself a faith healer and son on Kobayende, who got me interested in traditional shamanistic healing.

Looking forward to see what everyone else has to say.

Sister Phynx that hypnosis, massage therapy, belief re-patterning sounds like a great idea!

P.S. I agree healing is more powerful then destroying....

Kobayende, huh? Tata Fumbi. Brother Tyab, being into rootwork along with other things, of course, I learned heavily on the herbs. These brothers and sisters can assist you greatly. Pay attention.

Sister Phynx,

I received my Reiki I & II atunements. Yes, Reiki did open up some strong energy currents in me. I haven't put it to use in some years now but it's an interesting concept and modality.

Healing extends beyond the individual human body and goes into human systems. This was my intended thoughts when I first started this thread.

Blackbird

phynxofkmt
04-21-2009, 05:56 PM
Great thread..

I'm very much into healing, and what I am learning right now is the West African approach, which includes herbs and spirits. But I also like just any traditional herbs, and also power plants, like I said in an earlier thread, I met a brother who calls himself a faith healer and son on Kobayende, who got me interested in traditional shamanistic healing.

Looking forward to see what everyone else has to say.

Sister Phynx that hypnosis, massage therapy, belief re-patterning sounds like a great idea!

P.S. I agree healing is more powerful then destroying....

Brother Tyab, I thrive on validation...

I got the idea through observation. So many of us missed out on loving touch when we were younger. Harsh discipline, sexual abuse and sometimes just the absence of a trusted adult to hold us when we are frightened closes off our heart chakra. We grow up believing that we have to be hard, and sometimes cold in order to make it. As adults we then have a tendency to pursue sexual relationships because our bodies need the energy exchange, but what we reallly want is to open our hearts again and experience the touch of love. When this is mis-understood it leads to promiscuity and an interest in demoralizing one another through sexual union (prostitution, pornography and unsafe sex). In extreme circumstances it also leads to violence because the body literally starves for affection.

The First Nations people in Canada were able to get a secondary or alternative prison system, where some of them are re-connected to their culture and value systems in a wholistic environment. The inmates must adhere to and commit wholeheartedly to healing, it's not a quick out from doing hard time. Drumming circles, support groups, and other methodologies are utilized to bring the person back into the community.

I really believe that Africans deserve this much, if not more. Again, though you have to be selected for the programs and recidivism is not tolerated. They have a very good success rate, especially with their young people and womben who are most often incarcerated for crimes of drug abuse, theft or prostitution.

Alexandra
04-21-2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks for reviving this thread. Blackbird

My pleasure.

You must have been digging in the archives for that one.

To call it digging would be outrageously fondling the reality of the matter lol. This mission was akin to turning over a graveyard.

This was one of my first posts on Destee.

I was looking for the very first one. But this will suffice.


Here's where I'm at now. I'm pretty much the same. We all have paths of healing.

Thank you for the update!

Hopefully others will contribute.

Here is my contribution;

My role as a healer is to recognize imbalance and restore harmony.

To achieve this, I use a holistic approach; by this I mean that I understand/appreciate the interconnectedness between the mind and body. I am especially mindful of this when addressing female ailments.

Being a simple gal, I mainly work with herbal plants.

I found out something of great interest today while reading a book on rootwork. Apparently, when the African slaves landed on your shores, they had all this knowledge about herbs/plants, but very little knowhow in terms of how to use them to heal. The Native Indians taught them much about what we know about now herbal medicine. Who knew?! Thoughts I.

Alexandra

Blackbird
04-21-2009, 06:14 PM
Brother Tyab, I thrive on validation...

I got the idea through observation. So many of us missed out on loving touch when we were younger. Harsh discipline, sexual abuse and sometimes just the absence of a trusted adult to hold us when we are frightened closes off our heart chakra. We grow up believing that we have to be hard, and sometimes cold in order to make it. As adults we then have a tendency to pursue sexual relationships because our bodies need the energy exchange, but what we reallly want is to open our hearts again and experience the touch of love. When this is mis-understood it leads to promiscuity and an interest in demoralizing one another through sexual union (prostitution, pornography and unsafe sex). In extreme circumstances it also leads to violence because the body literally starves for affection.

The First Nations people in Canada were able to get a secondary or alternative prison system, where some of them are re-connected to their culture and value systems in a wholistic environment. The inmates must adhere to and commit wholeheartedly to healing, it's not a quick out from doing hard time. Drumming circles, support groups, and other methodologies are utilized to bring the person back into the community.

I really believe that Africans deserve this much, if not more. Again, though you have to be selected for the programs and recidivism is not tolerated. They have a very good success rate, especially with their young people and womben who are most often incarcerated for crimes of drug abuse, theft or prostitution.

The program in the States for First Nation people centers on what is called "the Red Road" - the road of the Indian. It is about his journey, his highway where the scenery is viewed from his lenses. For those undergoing treatment it is re-centering of culture and guess what - the ancestral soul. Y'all see that? We have a discussion on this in the Lion King thread. It begins with a desire to re-connect, participation and then re-integration. Metamphetamine use, alcoholism, suicide and prostitution are all rampant throughout Indian country and the use of sweats, ceremonial dances, drum groups, and even cultural food items (including herbs and roots) are used to bring the lost one back.

My uncle lost his son to suicide and drug use. Later, my uncle took to drawing and he opened up a quasi-trading post/art gallery named Thundercloud in his son's honor. This was therapeutic for uncle because he began to use his Indian name more, engaged in more Indian things and found an eventually outlet after losing his legs to diabetes. Uncle has transitioned now but his memory and presence remains strong as many people know of him. I pour tobacco on Mother Earth and the Four directions for Uncle Jerry.

Blackbird

Blackbird
04-21-2009, 06:30 PM
To call it digging would be outrageously fondling the reality of the matter lol. This mission was akin to turning over a graveyard.

You'll be a palera before you know it. Lol...



Here is my contribution;

My role as a healer is to recognize imbalance and restore harmony.

To achieve this, I use a holistic approach; by this I mean that I understand/appreciate the interconnectedness between the mind and body. I am especially mindful of this when addressing female ailments.

Being a simple gal, I mainly work with herbs, and plants.

I like that role. It is a challenging mission, but someone gots to do it, oui?


I found out something of great interest today while reading a book on rootwork. Apparently, when the African slaves landed on your shores, they had all this knowledge about herbs/plants, but very little knowhow in terms of how to use them to heal. The Native Indians taught them much about what we know about now herbal medicine. Who knew?! Thoughts I.

Who wrote this? That's a crock of bull. Africans have been using herbal medicine for how long now - too too too too long before anyone else. What it is: The Native peoples here showed my African ancestors the uses of certain herbs native to this land that they had no knowledge of or have never came in contact with. These herbs, plants and roots then in turn entered into the magica materia of Southern rootwork. That's why I love rootwork - it is a creation on these shores from the blending of Red and Black - just like me - perhaps this is why my family has been practicing rootwork for generations.

Blackbird

phynxofkmt
04-22-2009, 12:33 PM
Brother Tyab, I thrive on validation...

I got the idea through observation. So many of us missed out on loving touch when we were younger. Harsh discipline, sexual abuse and sometimes just the absence of a trusted adult to hold us when we are frightened closes off our heart chakra. We grow up believing that we have to be hard, and sometimes cold in order to make it. As adults we then have a tendency to pursue sexual relationships because our bodies need the energy exchange, but what we reallly want is to open our hearts again and experience the touch of love. When this is mis-understood it leads to promiscuity and an interest in demoralizing one another through sexual union (prostitution, pornography and unsafe sex). In extreme circumstances it also leads to violence because the body literally starves for affection.

The First Nations people in Canada were able to get a secondary or alternative prison system, where some of them are re-connected to their culture and value systems in a wholistic environment. The inmates must adhere to and commit wholeheartedly to healing, it's not a quick out from doing hard time. Drumming circles, support groups, and other methodologies are utilized to bring the person back into the community.

I really believe that Africans deserve this much, if not more. Again, though you have to be selected for the programs and recidivism is not tolerated. They have a very good success rate, especially with their young people and womben who are most often incarcerated for crimes of drug abuse, theft or prostitution.

Last night I was refelcting on what I wrote, and I realized that there were reasons why this idea didn't pan out as well as I would have liked.

First, there is the physical safety of the practitioner. I gave up working as a therapist because of the weight of security. It's best in a clinical setting, but even here and in the best of spas, a patient can come in with the idea that massage includes sexual services. Working with men can feel uncomfortable, I was propositioned by several patients, some in their 60's, to go out on dates, buy me dinner, etc... Some employers are underground pimps, or they think that the practitioners are secretly prostitutes.

I don't know anything about the industry of prostitution, I never walked that path and never will. What I do know though, is that there is always an exchange of energy between therapist and patient, and some of the ethereal, or psychic energy that I came away with was more than my psyche could handle efficiently. I know everyone talks about grounding yourself and cleansing afterwards, but I would have dreams and visions that did not belong to my life, and I sometimes was emotionally overwhelmed with the life experiences that I could feel from touching someone.

With that said, massage therapy has a long way to go in providing the esoteric knowledge for the practitioner's security. I believe that there are days or even weeks when it is not astrologically safe to work; I believe that there are methods yet to be uncovered to ground negative or toxic energy that they don't teach you in school.

ru2religious
04-22-2009, 12:59 PM
I don't heal. I hex..............Ok, maybe I do a lil of both. lol

lol ...

Peace

Ru2religous

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