A BIBLICAL DISCOURSE ON A VIRTUOUS WOMAN
The Book of Proverbs is a collection of inspired instructions on the kind of conduct which is desirable and acceptable before God. The Proverbs teach piety, justice and duty. They deal in themes of morality, religion, society and politics. They draw comparisons between the righteous and the sinner; the wise and the foolish; and rewards and punishments. A riveting example is Proverbs 31:10-31, which defines and praises a virtuous woman:
"A truly good wife is the most precious treasure a man can find!
Her husband depends on her, and she never lets him down.
She is good to him every day of her life,
and with her own hands she gladly makes clothes.
She is like a sailing ship that brings food from across the sea.
She gets up before daylight to prepare food
for her family and her servants.
She knows how to buy land and how to plant a vineyard,
and she always works hard. She knows when to buy or sell,
and she stays busy until late at night.
She spins her own cloth, and she helps the poor and the needy.
Her family has warm clothing, and so she doesn't worry
when it snows. She does her own sewing,
and everything she wears is beautiful.
Her husband is a well-known and respected leader in the city.
She makes clothes to sell to the shop owners.
She is strong and graceful, as well as cheerful about the future.
Her words are sensible, and her advice is thoughtful.
She takes good care of her family, and is never lazy.
Her children praise her, and with great pride her husband says,
‘There are many good women, but you are the best!’
Charm can be deceiving, and beauty fades away,
but a woman who honors the Lord deserves to be praised.
Show her respect – praise her in public for what she has done."
(Proverbs 31:10-31)
Destee 01-04-2004, 07:05 AM Aqil ... must i do all these things, or will one be sufficient? :look:
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Destee
:D
Not all, my dear...and verse 15 will suffice: "She gets up before daylight to prepare food
for her family and her servants." :)
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Destee 01-04-2004, 07:29 AM :) ... uuhhhh ... i was think'n i could handle this one ...
but a woman who honors the Lord deserves to be praised
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Destee
Man was created to glorify the spirit of God; woman was created to glorify the spirit of man...
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Destee 01-04-2004, 07:48 AM Why can't i just honor the Lord, like the scripture says above?
Not knowing how to plant a vineyard already got me shake'n in my boots ...
and now you wanna add some additional requirements.
See ... i'm thru discuss'n with you ... :wink:
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Destee
Why can't i just honor the Lord, like the scripture says above?You will honor the Lord, and I will praise you...
Not knowing how to plant a vineyard already got me shake'n in my boots...
and now you wanna add some additional requirements.
Stop shakin'...you will be taught how to plant a vineyard...and there are no additional requirements...
See ... i'm thru discuss'n with you ... :wink:
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Destee
I will excuse you then...:)
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Destee 01-04-2004, 04:09 PM You will honor the Lord, and I will praise you...you're gett'n me excited ... :love:
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Destee
Give God the glory!
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Destee 01-04-2004, 06:26 PM Thank you for helping me to maintain my focus.
Yes, of course ... always ... giving God the Glory.
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Destee
Now I'm excited! :)
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Destee 01-04-2004, 07:24 PM Aqil ... your excitement is excite'n me ... so in an effort to stay focused on the topic ... you gonna teach me how to plant a vineyard?
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Destee
When the time comes, my dear...:)
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Destee 01-04-2004, 10:58 PM k ... :)
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Destee
Here are more great words of wisdom from the Book of Proverbs:
Proverbs 5 – Be Faithful to Your Wife
“My son, if you listen closely to my wisdom and good sense,
you will have sound judgment, and you will always know
the right things to say.
The words of an immoral woman may be as sweet as honey,
and as smooth as olive oil.
But all that you really get from being with her is bitter poison
and pain.
If you follow her, she will lead you down to the world of the dead.
She has missed the path that leads to life, and doesn’t even know it.
My son, listen to me and do everything I say.
Stay away from a bad woman!
Don’t even go near the door of her house. You will lose your
self-respect and end up in debt to some cruel person
for the rest of your life.
Strangers will get your money and everything else you have worked for.
When it’s all over, your body will waste away as you groan and shout,
‘I hated advice and correction! I paid no attention to my teachers,
and now I am disgraced in front of everyone.’
You should be faithful to your wife, just as you take water
from your own well.
And don’t be like a stream from which just any woman can drink.
Save yourself for your wife, and don’t have sex with other women.
Be happy with the wife you married when you were young.
She is beautiful and graceful, just like a deer; you should be
attracted to her, and stay deeply in love.
Don’t go crazy over a woman who is unfaithful to her own husband!
The Lord sees everything, and He watches us closely.
Sinners are trapped and caught by their own evil deeds.
They get lost and die because of their foolishness and lack
of self-control.”
(Proverbs 5:1-23)
Proverbs 6 – Don’t Be Foolish
“The Law of the Lord is a lamp, and its teachings shine brightly.
Correction and self-control will lead you through life.
They will protect you from the flattering words of someone else’s wife.
Don’t let yourself be attracted by the charm and lovely eyes of
someone like that.
A woman who sells her love can be bought for as little as
the price of a meal. But making love to another man’s wife
will cost you everything.
If you carry burning coals, you burn your clothes; if you step on hot coals,
you burn your feet. And if you go to bed with another man’s wife,
you pay the price.
We don’t put up with thieves, except with one who steals for something to eat.
And thieves who get caught must pay back seven times what was stolen,
and lose everything.
But if you go to bed with another man’s wife, you will destroy yourself
by your own stupidity. You will be beaten and forever disgraced,
because a jealous husband can be furious and merciless when he takes revenge.
He won’t let you pay him off, no matter what you offer."
(Proverbs 6:23-35)
Proverbs 7 – The Foolishness of Unfaithfulness
My son, pay close attention and don’t forget what I tell you to do.
Obey me and you will live!
Let my instructions be your greatest treasure.
Keep them at your fingertips and write them in your mind.
Let wisdom be your sister, and make common sense your closest friend.
They will protect you from the flattering words of someone else’s wife.
From the window of my house I once happened to see some foolish young men.
It was late in the evening, sometime after dark.One of these young men
turned the corner and was walking by the house of an unfaithful wife.
She was dressed fancy, like a woman of the street with only one thing in mind.
She was one of those women who are loud and restless, and never stays home;
who walk street after street waiting to trap a man.
She grabbed him and kissed him, and with no sense of shame she said:
‘I had to offer a sacrifice, and there is enough food left over for a feast.
So I came looking for you, and here you are!
The sheets on my bed are bright-colored cloth from Egypt,
And I have covered it with perfume made of myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.
Let’s go there and make love all night. My husband is traveling, and he’s far away.
He took a lot of money along, and he won’t be back home before the middle of the month.’
And so she tricked him with all of her sweet talk and her flattery.
Right away he followed her like an ox on the way to be slaughtered,
or like a fool on the way to be punished and killed with arrows.
He was no more than a bird rushing into a trap, without knowing it would cost him
his life.
My son, pay close attention to what I have said.
Don’t even think about that kind of woman, or let yourself be led by someone like her.
Such a woman has caused the downfall and destruction of a lot of men.
Her house is a one-way street leading straight down to the world of the dead.”
(Proverbs 7:1-27)
And from Proverbs 11:22...
“A beautiful woman, without discretion, is like a ring of gold in a swine’s snout.”
redlady 02-16-2004, 08:06 AM aqil, although what you post is truth...is there anything written about women like those changing their lives...or are they forever doomed to live with such corruption. thanks.
although what you post is truth...is there anything written about women like those changing their lives...or are they forever doomed to live with such corruption. thanks.
Can you be more specific?
redlady 02-16-2004, 10:04 PM Can you be more specific?
ok, the bible says to stay away from a non-virtuous woman...but what about a woman who is non-virtuous that becomes virtuous again by repenting her sins? just curious...thanks.
Peace redlady...I defer to the following Biblical scripture re: your query...
"Everyone else went home, but Jesus walked out to the Mount of Olives.Then early the next morning he went to the temple. The people came to him, and he sat down and started teaching them.
The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law of Moses brought in a woman who had been caught in bed with a man who wasn't her husband. They made her stand in the middle of the crowd. Then they said, 'Teacher, this woman was caught sleeping with a man who isn't her husband. The Law of Moses teaches that a woman like that should be stoned to death! What do you say? They asked Jesus this question because they wanted to test him and bring some charges against him.
But Jesus simply bent over and started writing on the ground with his finger. They kept on asking Jesus about the woman. Finally he stood up and said, 'If any of you have never sinned, then go ahead and throw the first stones at her!' Once again he bent over and began writing on the ground. The people left one by one, beginning with the oldest. Finally, Jesus and the woman were there alone.
Jesus stood up and asked her, 'Where is everyone? Isn't their anyone left to accuse you?' 'No sir,' the woman answered. Then Jesus told her, 'I am not going to accuse you either. You may go now, but don't sin anymore.'"
(John 8:1-11)
The only way to become a saint is to have been a sinner...
Peace.
redlady 02-17-2004, 09:39 AM Thanks Aqil, this made me smile this morning!
And your smile has made my day, redlady. Always remember that as long as you adhere to principles of justice, no harm can ever befall you..
Peace and :heart:
Re: the topic of the thread:
That the Jews did translate the literary productions of Egypt into the Hebrew language - and mix them with their own - is not a matter of doubt. The 31st chapter of Proverbs is evidence of this; it is said there, "The words of King Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him." This verse stands as a preface to the Proverbs that follow, which are not the proverbs of Solomon, but of Lemuel; and this Lemuel was not one of the kings of Israel, nor of Judah, but of some other country, and consequently an Egyptian...
The Jews, however, have adopted his proverbs, and as they cannot give any account of who the author of the Book of Job was, nor how they came by the book...and as it differs in character from the Hebrew writings and stands totally unconnected with every other book and chapter in the Bible - before it and after it - it has all the circumstantial evidence of being originally a book of the ancient Egyptians...
The prayer known by the name of "Agur's prayer," in the 30th chapter of Proverbs, immediately preceding the proverbs of Lemuel - which is the only sensible, well-conceived and well-expressed prayer in the Bible - has much the appearance of being a prayer taken from the Egyptians. The name "Agur" occurs on no other occasion than this; and he is introduced - together with the prayer ascribed to him - in the same manner, and nearly in the same words, that Lemuel and his proverbs are introduced in the chapter that follows.
The first verse of the 30th chapter says, "The words of Agur, the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy." Here the word prophecy is used in the same application it has in the following chapter of Lemuel, unconnected with any thing of prediction. The prayer of Agur is in the 8th and 9th verses, "Remove far from me vanity and lies; give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me; lest I be full and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor and steal, and take the name of my God in vain."
This doesn't have any of the marks of being a Jewish prayer, for the Jews never prayed except when they were in trouble, and never for anything but victory, vengeance and riches...
The Book of Proverbs sets forth a system of morality that all men of good intentions - irrespective of race, creed or color - can appreciate and apply to their daily lives. It must have been by deliberate design that the book contains nothing distinctive that marked it as being for Israel alone. For example:
1. There is no mention of Israel in the entire book.
2. There is no allusion to the feast of the passover, or to the feast of weeks, or to the feast of the tabernacle.
3. There is no mention of a sabbath day.
4. There is no requirements or reference to the paying of tithes.
5. There is no distinct trace of messianic hope.
In its reference to God, the Book of Proverbs reflects the universal attributes of God's infinity and omnipresence, and that He chastens and reproves the faithful. God is presented as rewarding the good and condemning the evil, in addition to having particular concern for the poor...
Parts of the Book of Proverbs came from the ancient Egyptians of Africa. According to the eminent Egyptologist J.H. Breasted, The Wisdom of Amenemope, the written works of the great Egyptian Pharoah who reigned during the time of Solomon, was translated into Hebrew, and an important part of it found its way into the Old Testament. Whole sections of Proverbs 22:17 and 23:11 are largely drawn verbatim from The Wisdom of Amenemope; i.e., the Hebrew version is practically a literal translation from the Egyptian...
King Lemuel is mentioned in the subscription to Proverbs 31, which is addressed to him by his mother. Various theories have been proposed in explanation of the subscription. Cheyne reads "Jerahmeel." Others (e.g., Wildeboer) join the phrase "Lemuel the King" with the following word, "massa" (following the punctuation, "prophecy"), which they take as a proper name, and read "King of Massa," an Ishmaelite people (Genesis 25:14).
The Ishmaelites were descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's first-born son. They were an African people, as Stephen Foster alludes to in his 1850 song called, "Oh Lemuel":
"Oh! Lemuel my lark,
Oh! Lemuel my beau,
I's gwine to give a ball tonight,
I'd have for you to know;
But if you want to dance,
just dance outside de door;
Because yo feet so very large,
Dey will cover all de floor.
Oh! Lem! Lem! Lem!
Lemuel I say!
Go down to de cotton field,
And bring de boys away.
Chorus:
Go down to de cotton field!
Go down, I say!
Go down and call de darkey boys all;
We'll work no more today.
Oh! Lemuel my hope,
Oh! Lemuel my joy,
I'll tell you who'll be at de ball,
My woolly-headed boy.
Dere's Nelly Bly, you know,
And Juliana Snow,
Dere's cane-brake Kitty likes de boys,
She'll be sure to go.
Oh! Lem! Lem! Lem!
Lemuel I say!
Go down to de cotton field,
And bring de boys away."
Repeat chorus:
(Thus the mother of King Lemuel in Proverbs 31 of the Bible was an African woman.)
The word "Lemuel" is Hebrew and it means "Godward."
Music Producer 06-06-2004, 04:39 PM ok, the bible says to stay away from a non-virtuous woman...but what about a woman who is non-virtuous that becomes virtuous again by repenting her sins? just curious...thanks.
Ruth:3:11: And now, my daughter, fear not; I will do to thee all that thou requirest: for all the city of my people doth know that thou art a virtuous woman.
Prov:12:4: A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones.
Prov:31:10: Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
Those are the hits from the Old Testaments on the word, “virtuous”. I see no part as to where GOD HIMSELF is speaking as to staying away from a non-virtuous woman. So let us be clear that GOD doesn’t speak to this in terms of relations. If there has been any restriction as to this type of relations between a man and a woman these restrictions are of our own devices, not GOD.
In reality a non-virtues woman or man is in the eye of the beholder. For example: a woman or man that dances in a strip joint for a living may appear to some as non-virtues. Then they may appear to others as doing nothing wrong. GOD does not regulate this perception, but our own human will to control or appear more righteous then others is the main factor. I cringe when I see people trying to use GOD to control other people. In my observations of many relationships I have seen very mean people joined in love to people that are just the opposite. I’ve seen righteousness spread in this manner as to the mean person being corrected by the nice person. Virtue is in the eye of the beholder. Don’t let anyone tell you that you are doing wrong if they can’t show you specifically where GOD HIMSELF addresses it in HIS own words.
Music Producer 06-06-2004, 04:42 PM Peace redlady...I defer to the following Biblical scripture re: your query...
"Everyone else went home, but Jesus walked out to the Mount of Olives.Then early the next morning he went to the temple. The people came to him, and he sat down and started teaching them.
The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law of Moses brought in a woman who had been caught in bed with a man who wasn't her husband. They made her stand in the middle of the crowd. Then they said, 'Teacher, this woman was caught sleeping with a man who isn't her husband. The Law of Moses teaches that a woman like that should be stoned to death! What do you say? They asked Jesus this question because they wanted to test him and bring some charges against him.
But Jesus simply bent over and started writing on the ground with his finger. They kept on asking Jesus about the woman. Finally he stood up and said, 'If any of you have never sinned, then go ahead and throw the first stones at her!' Once again he bent over and began writing on the ground. The people left one by one, beginning with the oldest. Finally, Jesus and the woman were there alone.
Jesus stood up and asked her, 'Where is everyone? Isn't their anyone left to accuse you?' 'No sir,' the woman answered. Then Jesus told her, 'I am not going to accuse you either. You may go now, but don't sin anymore.'"
(John 8:1-11)
The only way to become a saint is to have been a sinner...
Peace.Could you point out in the Old Testaments as to where the Law of Moses teaches this?
Music Producer 06-06-2004, 05:13 PM Parts of the Book of Proverbs came from the ancient Egyptians of Africa. According to the eminent Egyptologist J.H. Breasted, The Wisdom of Amenemope, the written works of the great Egyptian Pharoah who reigned during the time of Solomon, was translated into Hebrew, and an important part of it found its way into the Old Testament. Whole sections of Proverbs 22:17 and 23:11 are largely drawn verbatim from The Wisdom of Amenemope; i.e., the Hebrew version is practically a literal translation from the Egyptian...The entire Bible, Old and New; comes from Africa this is why you can find the Trinity theory on the tomb walls of King Tut. The entire concept of Messiah as in the New comes from the life of King Tut. As Akhenaten started the concept of monotheism, after his reign King Tut removed this concept through allowing the people to praise what ever god they wanted and removing any historical remembrance of Akhenaten and his followers and people. In essence King Tut delivered the people from the bondage of Akhenaten and his army which gives rise to the concept of Messiah. King Tut is often depicted as being born from, I think, the Lotus plant, which has the Egyptian concept of being born from a virgin. There are signs that King Tut was starting to go back to the concept of monotheism, but he was murdered before he could reinstate it.
So you see the entire Bible has been stolen from Africa and re-written as to how it is perceived today.
Eccl:1:9: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Eccl:1:10: Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
I only see this as a concept or philosophy that is good advice but not Holy advice. He sure says a lot.
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Not all, my dear...and verse 15 will suffice: "She gets up before daylight to prepare food
for her family and her servants." :)
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Yeah, right - LOL! I'm not married and my son is an adult. That young man better not even look at me before daylight - LOL! On weekends, he catches the transit to work while Mom still lays in bed.
However, I would have to change that IF I get married. My late mother was an example of the Proverbs 31 woman...she was the last one in bed and the first one to rise. Don't know how she had the energy, but she was a homemaker and we kids never left the house without a wholesome breakfast. When we got home from school, a full course dinner was cooking. I DARE not share with you the menus...for you will get very hungry.
You were blessed indeed, vj57...thanks for sharing...
"If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning..."
(Aristotle Onassis)
Keita Kenyatta 01-29-2005, 07:43 PM First of all, I'm sorry to burst any bubbles but MONOTHEISM EXISTED FOR 0VER 17 DYNASTIES BEFORE A KING TUT WAS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT. PLEASE CHECK YOUR HISTORY.
FURTHERMORE, WHERE IS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT A VIRTUOUS MAN ? OH, MY BAD...I FORGOT THAT SOME FOREIGN MEN PUT THIS BOOK TOGETHER TO CONTROL THE WOMAN AND PLACE THEMSELVES ABOVE HER.
SO AS WE CAN SEE, VIRTUE ONLY APPLIES TO HER !
info-moetry 01-29-2005, 08:09 PM "If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning..."
(Aristotle Onassis)
peace,
R U SIRIUS Aqil? oops I meant to say serious, pardon me......brotha???????
peace!
You don't agree with Aristotle???
WHERE IS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT A VIRTUOUS MAN?The book of Job 29-31...
From Ecclesiasticus, or The Wisdom of Jesus The Son of Sirach:
"He who devotes himself to the study of
the law of the Most High will seek out the wisdom of all the
ancients, and will be concerned with prophecies;
he will preserve the discourse of notable men,
and penetrate the subtleties of parables.
He will serve among great men and appear before rulers;
he will travel through the lands of foreign nations,
for he tests the good and the evil among men.
He will set his heart to rise early to seek the Lord who made him,
and will make supplication before the Most High; he will
open his mouth in prayer and make supplication for his sins.
If the great Lord is willing, he will be filled
with the spirit of understanding;
he will pour forth words of wisdom
and give thanks to the Lord in prayer.
He will direct his counsel and knowledge aright,
and meditate on his secrets.
He will reveal instruction in his teachings,
and will glory in the law of the Lord’s covenant."
(Sirach 39:1-8, Books of the Apocrypha)
info-moetry 01-30-2005, 09:33 AM Peace,
No sir, I do not agree with Aristotle on any point or any topic he ever discussed, especially one of such a LOW science as this. This quotation, I feel is worthy to be "thrown to the dogs"...............
peace
Keita Kenyatta 01-30-2005, 04:27 PM THIS IS NOT ABOUT A VIRTUOUS MAN BRO ! FURTHERMORE, THAT LITTLE DEFINITON WE READ?...WHAT MAN DID THAT COME FROM...I HOPE NOT DAVID, CAUSE DAVID 9 TIME OUT OF 10 WAS GAY !!! NOW, DO YOU NEED THE RESEARCH ON THAT TOO, OR DO YOU THINK YOU CAN FIND IT YOURSELF ?
The author is Joshua ben Sirach, Queen...
panafrica 01-30-2005, 05:55 PM The author is Joshua ben Sirach, Queen...
Aqil:
Are you talking to QueenTswana or Keita?
Both Pan...check out the "Spiritual Numerology" thread...
panafrica 01-30-2005, 06:37 PM Both Pan...check out the "Spiritual Numerology" thread...
Well don't talk to both Aqil...brother Keita is the only one who debates you. Sister QueenT wishes to be left out of your discussions, and you need to respect her wish!
Keita has posted as Queentswana several times in this forum, as you can see in the "Spiritual Numerology" thread. I would have honored such a request if either had posed it to me...
Destee 01-31-2005, 01:28 AM Well don't talk to both Aqil...brother Keita is the only one who debates you. Sister QueenT wishes to be left out of your discussions, and you need to respect her wish!
In defense of Brother Aqil ... i have seen where it appears as though it is Sister Queen who is responding to Brother Aqil ... or taking part in the discussions.
If they don't want Brother Aqil addressing Sister Queen, then "Sister Queen" should not address him (or appear to be doing so) ... or post even ... because all responses are open to comment from everyone ... if done respectfully.
I don't think it's fair to obligate Brother Aqil to not respond to Sister Queen, when it clearly says on the forum (at some times), that it is Sister Queen who is speaking.
Working out the mixup of who is really posting, is on Sister Queen and Brother Keita. Not Aqil.
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Destee
fanyamambo 01-31-2005, 02:51 AM Clearly the Bible was written by men :nuts:
panafrica 01-31-2005, 03:51 AM In defense of Brother Aqil ... i have seen where it appears as though it is Sister Queen who is responding to Brother Aqil ... or taking part in the discussions.If they don't want Brother Aqil addressing Sister Queen, then "Sister Queen" should not address him (or appear to be doing so) ... or post even ... because all responses are open to comment from everyone ... if done respectfully. I don't think it's fair to obligate Brother Aqil to not respond to Sister Queen, when it clearly says on the forum (at some times), that it is Sister Queen who is speaking. Working out the mixup of who is really posting, is on Sister Queen and Brother Keita. Not Aqil.
I was unaware of that Destee, as I have not followed every post ever written by brother Keita or sister QueenT. However it is known by most (definately by Aqil) that brother Keita & sister QueenT are husband & wife. As such it is likely that they share computers. There are many times when people who living together go on the same sites, and forget to log each other's identities off. I have done this with my wife, and vice versa. This is clearly what happened with Keita & QueenT. In any case it is Keita who is writting in this thread, that should be obvious. Therefore Aqil should address Keita, not QueenT.
Destee 01-31-2005, 09:09 AM Brother Pan ... we're actually discussing 2 separate issues here ... and i really hate that we are taking this thread off-topic ... but that's okay, sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do, right where we are! :)
Yes, there are 2 issues here.
1. You told Aqil ... "Well don't talk to both "
That is not right. He is certainly welcome to respond to both if he so chooses, as long as those responses are respectful.
There is no Member that can control, pick and choose, who they want to respond to them. If a Member posts here, they are putting themselves in a position to receive responses from all that choose to give them. Sister Queen is no exception ... if she posts here ... and Brother Aqil wants to respond to that post, he has every right to do so ... as does everyone else. Now Sister Queen can "block" his responses from her view, but she can't keep him from sharing them.
If Brother Aqil's responses are disrespectful ... then we can address that, as it is a different issue.
2. Sister Queen & Brother Keita signing on as each other.
We have absolutely no control over this, only they do. I don't think it's "obvious" that Brother Keita is really the one responding ... when the name that is attached to the response is Sister Queen. You are asking Brother Aqil to believe other than what his eyes see. Every one here has a "username" and generally, when we see that someone has posted, we do not immediately wonder ... is this really them? Then begin calculating the likelihood that it is not, and compose a response surrounding that assumption ... because clearly the forum is telling us that it is Sister Queen that has just spoken.
The weight of this burden falls on Sister Queen and Brother Keita. If they don't want Brother Aqil responding to "Sister Queen" ... when it is really Brother Keita responding ... then they must do everything in their power ... to log out and back in, depending on which user is actually posting.
Aqil has absolutely no control over that, and shouldn't be expected to adjust for those "errors."
:heart:
Destee
Keita Kenyatta 01-31-2005, 11:24 AM Dear destee, I can respect your position and I think you are 100% correct. When we take what you said into consideration, that is where the problem starts. If you look at page 4 of this thread you will see that i am posting under my own name, not hers. Therefore Aqils response was not to my thread at all...and dispite the fact that I was in my own name, he still insited in calling me Queen.
If you go back to the thread that Aqil referred you to where i had posted in Queens name, you will see that I apologized to Aqil for posting in her name and informed him that it was me. That however was another thread. The thread you are reading is where I posted in my own name and he still insisted on calling me Queen even though it's clear that it's me posting and not her.
Destee 01-31-2005, 11:45 AM Dear destee, I can respect your position and I think you are 100% correct. When we take what you said into consideration, that is where the problem starts.
Thank you Brother Keita. If we can go to where the problem starts, and correct it there, i believe all will be well. If we do that, remove the confusion ... and the same experience exists ... let me know.
:heart:
Destee
Back to the topic of my thread:
A BIBLICAL DISCOURSE ON A VIRTUOUS WOMAN
The Book of Proverbs is a collection of inspired instructions on the kind of conduct which is desirable and acceptable before God. The Proverbs teach piety, justice and duty. They deal in themes of morality, religion, society and politics. They draw comparisons between the righteous and the sinner; the wise and the foolish; and rewards and punishments. A riveting example is Proverbs 31:10-31, which defines and praises a virtuous woman:
"A truly good wife is the most precious treasure a man can find!
Her husband depends on her, and she never lets him down.
She is good to him every day of her life,
and with her own hands she gladly makes clothes.
She is like a sailing ship that brings food from across the sea.
She gets up before daylight to prepare food
for her family and her servants.
She knows how to buy land and how to plant a vineyard,
and she always works hard. She knows when to buy or sell,
and she stays busy until late at night.
She spins her own cloth, and she helps the poor and the needy.
Her family has warm clothing, and so she doesn't worry
when it snows. She does her own sewing,
and everything she wears is beautiful.
Her husband is a well-known and respected leader in the city.
She makes clothes to sell to the shop owners.
She is strong and graceful, as well as cheerful about the future.
Her words are sensible, and her advice is thoughtful.
She takes good care of her family, and is never lazy.
Her children praise her, and with great pride her husband says,
‘There are many good women, but you are the best!’
Charm can be deceiving, and beauty fades away,
but a woman who honors the Lord deserves to be praised.
Show her respect – praise her in public for what she has done."
(Proverbs 31:10-31)
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