Do you believe that people have and can correspond with the ancestors?
Do you believe in people having physic abilities and premonitions?
Do you believe that people can talk to lost spirits?

If yes/no please elaborate. And explain why you do or dont.

Do you believe that people have and can correspond with the ancestors?
Do you believe in people having physic abilities and premonitions?
Do you believe that people can talk to lost spirits?

If yes/no please elaborate. And explain why you do or dont.


Purplemoons, your questions are good ones.. sad to say no one has replied.


Yes, I believe that individuals who are intuned with thier heritage can commune with ancestors. I believe if one is intuned to that part of themselves it is possible.

I believe that we all possess some physic abillities. Some are more defined than others. However, I believe if a person has a desire to develop there physic sense it can be done to the fullest

Yes, I believe that people can talk to spirits. Here again if it is developed. The third eye has to be opened. Most of us close it due to outside, cultural and societal influences. But it can be opened.

Lady Bastet

Purplemoons, your questions are good ones.. sad to say no one has replied.


Yes, I believe that individuals who are intuned with thier heritage can commune with ancestors. I believe if one is intuned to that part of themselves it is possible.

I believe that we all possess some physic abillities. Some are more defined than others. However, I believe if a person has a desire to develop there physic sense it can be done to the fullest

Yes, I believe that people can talk to spirits. Here again if it is developed. The third eye has to be opened. Most of us close it due to outside, cultural and societal influences. But it can be opened.




Lady Bastet
Very Good Answer And The Third Eyes Can Be Open Again . Haven't Heard Any Sister Speak Of Third Eye In A While .

Yes, people can commune with their ancestors. Namely me! There are very precise and careful methods to invoke them .

Psychic ability is determined by the mother -child relation. My mother is a medium so it was fairly well developed in me before birth.

Most psychics operate on a gut feeling so to speak, thru meditation and libation your psychic awareness increases. There is a direct correlation between "talking" as well as feeding your ancestors and the hightened awareness of psychic ability

Ashe

You know, I've always been interested in things like this. SAdly, most people who know i was interested dismissed it as a "white" thing, or at the very least, weird.

I truely believe in communication on another plane. I have seen a few ancestral spirits in my day (if that's what they were, and amazingly enough, they weren't MY ancestors!), and I have felt the presence of a few.

I've been hearing a lot lately about ancient/ancestral memory. What is this? How does it work? I know I have weird dreams sometimes, almost like trances...... Anyone have any info on this?

Oh wow! This is an fairly old post. I posted this at a time when I began to experience unfamiliar things. I was seeing energies manifest before me.

During my quest for information on the subject, some have told me it was my own life source that I was seeing. But that left me puzzled because I actually saw these energies in different areas of my room at one time. Some has told me it was my guardians/ancestors trying to communicate with me and some have told me it was a message telling me that change was about to happen for me.

Without guidance from someone experience of such things it made my quest most complicated and doubt grew even larger. So I posted this in hopes that someone would/could clarify and elaborate.

I began to see these energies quite often. It didn't matter what time of the day it was as long as I was relaxed and at peace with myself. When I closed my eyes I would see patterns formed. often I saw eyes looking back at me for a breif second, then the eyes turned into patterns. Like a white mist moving and constantly changing forms. It even changed colors. Once in a while these patterns would spin really fast and my eyes couldn't adjust to the speed. I felt as I was falling through the middle of it. It would then come to a stop with a loud thomp and I could feel my body vibrate from a crash. I would then be in a unfamiliar place. Visions of different things at different times. I thought that I was losing my mind! I didn't know how else to explain it.

Until this day, I'm still not clear about these patterns I see manisfesting when I close my eyes and no one has yet explain to me exactly what it is taking place in my minds eye. Sometimes I'm up for hours just trying to make out the shapes and colors in my mind. I hope that I will begin to understand soon. *sigh*

Now that there are more conciously aware people here, Perhaps they won't mind enlightening me on these changes.

You know, I've always been interested in things like this. SAdly, most people who know i was interested dismissed it as a "white" thing, or at the very least, weird.

I truely believe in communication on another plane. I have seen a few ancestral spirits in my day (if that's what they were, and amazingly enough, they weren't MY ancestors!), and I have felt the presence of a few.

I've been hearing a lot lately about ancient/ancestral memory. What is this? How does it work? I know I have weird dreams sometimes, almost like trances...... Anyone have any info on this?


Ancestral memory is an "imprint" on the blood left by members in your family tree. It's a quickening of sorts, precipitated by crossing over what is called a grid.


Communicating with your ancestors is a deliberate attempt at establishing a symbiotic relationhip. However much caution is needed when doing this.

Some mediums see spirits without having to invoke them, this is called clairvoyance.

Oh wow! This is an fairly old post. I posted this at a time when I began to experience unfamiliar things. I was seeing energies manifest before me.

During my quest for information on the subject, some have told me it was my own life source that I was seeing. But that left me puzzled because I actually saw these energies in different areas of my room at one time. Some has told me it was my guardians/ancestors trying to communicate with me and some have told me it was a message telling me that change was about to happen for me.

Without guidance from someone experience of such things it made my quest most complicated and doubt grew even larger. So I posted this in hopes that someone would/could clarify and elaborate.

I began to see these energies quite often. It didn't matter what time of the day it was as long as I was relaxed and at peace with myself. When I closed my eyes I would see patterns formed. often I saw eyes looking back at me for a breif second, then the eyes turned into patterns. Like a white mist moving and constantly changing forms. It even changed colors. Once in a while these patterns would spin really fast and my eyes couldn't adjust to the speed. I felt as I was falling through the middle of it. It would then come to a stop with a loud thomp and I could feel my body vibrate from a crash. I would then be in a unfamiliar place. Visions of different things at different times. I thought that I was losing my mind! I didn't know how else to explain it.

Until this day, I'm still not clear about these patterns I see manisfesting when I close my eyes and no one has yet explain to me exactly what it is taking place in my minds eye. Sometimes I'm up for hours just trying to make out the shapes and colors in my mind. I hope that I will begin to understand soon. *sigh*

Now that there are more conciously aware people here, Perhaps they won't mind enlightening me on these changes.

If I may let me make a suggestion. Try taking a bath with about a pint of milk in the water, this is meant to clean the aura.

You also want to put a bowl of water under your bed before going to sleep. I have other methods I can share with you, just say the word!

If I may let me make a suggestion. Try taking a bath with about a pint of milk in the water, this is meant to clean the aura.

You also want to put a bowl of water under your bed before going to sleep. I have other methods I can share with you, just say the word!


What's the water for? Please, enlighten us...... And I'll have to share some of my experiences with you sometime......

Thank you Brother Sekhemu!!!!

I have been putting the water under my bed as you have suggested to me before. I haven't tried the bath with milk. I will try this as well.

When I'd put the water under my bed I had three clear visions come into my minds eye after a few days. Two came in the form of a colored cartoon.

It was a path, and along the sides were greenery and trees as if I was walking through a forest or some type of wooded area. At the very end of the path I saw two large skyscrapers. Atleast thats what it looked like to me. The building on the left was shorter than the one on the right. As I continued to journey down this path I saw two people. They both looked to be aboriginian. (Not sure if I spelled that correctly.) One was a young girl who was pointing down the path and speaking a language I didn't know to the man. He then turned toward the city where the two buildings were and headed that way.

The other vision I saw was very dark. I saw a figure standing in front of what looked like to me to be some kind of shrine or alter. He was aware that I saw him because he breifly he looked in my directions then back at the alter. I became startled and that broke my connection. As it does with all my visions.

The last one came as a dream. Two wild animals were running wild on the streets of New york. One was a white horse and the other was a baby buffalo. As I watched from an apartment window I became hysterical as these two beast were dodging in and out of traffic. Each one just missing being hit by a car. I rushed to get outside to try to save them. I saw the horse first and grabbed it by the neck. Rubbing its head to calm it. It Then spoke to me. Told me it loved me and asked me to dance. It stood on its hind legs and began to dance with me. I told it that I needed to find the baby buffalo. Then I saw it. It was too late. Some young man had gotten to it first and claimed it to be his own. I watched him walk away with it and felt as if I had failed to save it. I don't want to keep going on with this dream as it is very long if I give you all the details of what happened. So I'll end it here. But what is unique about these visions is they all came in one night or should I say morning.

I am open for any suggestions you may have. I need to understand whats going on with me. Some might say it's old age settling in or that I may need to seek medical attention. LOL But the truth of the matter is that even as a young child I have experienced these things but didn't acknowledge it.

I have shared dreams with my Mother and have felt the outcome of friends and family before it even happened. However, Its not something I have happened to me on a regular basis.

I hope I didn't bore you with my dreams but it was something that has been on my mind and I have'nt talked with anyone about it.

Not everyone tune into their visions and dreams so seriously as I. And they often feel uncomfortable when I talk about them or they just brush them off thinking I'm a few cards short of a deck. :hammer: Hmmmm! They may be right!!! Especially when you see shadows move and there is no one visibly there but you.

Yes I believe in physic abilities and premonitions. My mother before she passes away had these abilities, and so do I. My premonitions come in my dreams. And as for talking to spirits I never saw this happen with her, but she would see them.

I would suggest you try to invoke a conversation with GOD. Be mindful, if successful ask the entity if it is GOD and be specific as to being the GOD of Israel or the Old Testaments. If the entity or energy does not say specifically it is the GOD of Israel be careful of it.

You may be a descendant of the tribe Levi, one of the tribes that will be reawaken as the time draws near.

I would suggest you try to invoke a conversation with GOD. Be mindful, if successful ask the entity if it is GOD and be specific as to being the GOD of Israel or the Old Testaments. If the entity or energy does not say specifically it is the GOD of Israel be careful of it.

You may be a descendant of the tribe Levi, one of the tribes that will be reawaken as the time draws near.


Once again your have managed to throw you own religious chauvinism in the mix. Nobody asked you about your God. So I suggest you stick to your own doctrine. THis has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. You are attempting to use every thread concerning spirituality to convince the members that your beliefs are the only one's that hold credence.
Why is that. is because nobody is visiting your page like you think they should.

You are not qualified to give advice on this topic, simply due to the fact that ancestral veneration and psychic ability are diametrically opposed to your Judeo/christian convictions.

Brother Sekhemu

Why do my connection to the visions I have get broken before the can view the whole picture?

I think my connections have something to do with India. I say this because now that I think about it, I had another vision way before the others I mentioned.

I ended up in a strange house. It was full of women and children. There was an open doorway which had these shingles hanging down. A women with a red dot on her head looked through the shingles and waved me to come on in. When I got to the back there were other women. They looked at me and startled wailing. I mean the cried so loud that I got scared. The children began to cry also. I was running around asking them whats wrong but no one would answer. once again my connection was lost and I had no answers.

What can I do to keep from being distracted? How do I discipline myself to stay focused?

My ancestors have always been present in my life. I felt their protection and saw what happened to people who often tried to harm me. What do you know about India? I will be doing some reach now that I realize that their is a connection to india.

Brother Sekhemu,

Not calling you out ok or nothing….just seems you know a lot of things in this area and maybe can help me ….I got a few questions….wheeeew..and i see where you are helping and explaining things to Sister Purple.....

Ok here goes….

Psychic awareness how do you know if this is what you have?
All my grandmother says it skip a generation…and don’t say nothing else on it

For me, I can dream never see a face...but the event in my dream comes to life about 2-3 days sometimes it takes a week. My grandmother had a dream catcher made and bless for me, in which it is hanging in my bedroom window. When I ask her why, she said it would help my dreams which I haven’t had the nightmares or just pain hurtful dreams

Example of one dream that have come to pass a few times:
I could see a casket…and when I look into the casket I can see all but the face… this only happens when a family member is about to pass….weird huh?

Then it’s the vibes I can get from a stranger or a friend. Not a close friend…..through voice or just being near that individual I get this little weird feeling some times I get chills But if I try to do it I cant….its like it comes and goes.

Peace
Angel

Brother Sekhemu

Why do my connection to the visions I have get broken before the can view the whole picture?

I think my connections have something to do with India. I say this because now that I think about it, I had another vision way before the others I mentioned.

I ended up in a strange house. It was full of women and children. There was an open doorway which had these shingles hanging down. A women with a red dot on her head looked through the shingles and waved me to come on in. When I got to the back there were other women. They looked at me and startled wailing. I mean the cried so loud that I got scared. The children began to cry also. I was running around asking them whats wrong but no one would answer. once again my connection was lost and I had no answers.

What can I do to keep from being distracted? How do I discipline myself to stay focused?

My ancestors have always been present in my life. I felt their protection and saw what happened to people who often tried to harm me. What do you know about India? I will be doing some reach now that I realize that their is a connection to india.


To answer your last question first. India is actually the eastern half of Ethiopia. I have a fair amount of knowledge on Indian metaphysics. But before I answer in depth I need to know as much about the woman in the window as possible.

The fact that she waived you in from a window has tremendous symbolism.
The other issue is you need to set up an ancestral altar. so you can actually talk with them, just like you do with physical person in front of you or on the phone. This will help you ascertain the meanings of most of your dreams.

I can tell you how this can be done, but maybe this forum is not the best place to do so

I can tell you how this can be done, but maybe this forum is not the best place to do so


I thought about that as well! I don't have anyone near me that I know of to talk about these things and to help me grow correctly. If you have any suggestions as far as communication goes, I would be honored!

If it's possible, I would love to talk with you and give you more details.

Brother Sekhemu,

Not calling you out ok or nothing….just seems you know a lot of things in this area and maybe can help me ….I got a few questions….wheeeew..and i see where you are helping and explaining things to Sister Purple.....

Ok here goes….

Psychic awareness how do you know if this is what you have?
All my grandmother says it skip a generation…and don’t say nothing else on it

For me, I can dream never see a face...but the event in my dream comes to life about 2-3 days sometimes it takes a week. My grandmother had a dream catcher made and bless for me, in which it is hanging in my bedroom window. When I ask her why, she said it would help my dreams which I haven’t had the nightmares or just pain hurtful dreams

Example of one dream that have come to pass a few times:
I could see a casket…and when I look into the casket I can see all but the face… this only happens when a family member is about to pass….weird huh?

Then it’s the vibes I can get from a stranger or a friend. Not a close friend…..through voice or just being near that individual I get this little weird feeling some times I get chills But if I try to do it I cant….its like it comes and goes.

Peace
Angel


Yes sistah I can help you. I also have dreams about loved ones. However I do see they're faces, and it's always the next closest relative to the one I dream about.

But to answer your question as how do you know you if you have psychic ability. You have a form of it, known as premonition or precognition. If you meditate on a regular basis you can cultivate it more precisely.

If you ask your self a question before you go to sleep, leave a pen and paper next to you so that when you wake up you can write down the answer.

The answer may not make sense right away but write down all you can remember about your dreams.

One more thing, I believe that your ancestors do not wish for you to know exactly who is about to pass. I beleive the Creator is preventing them from telling you who is passing.

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I thought about that as well! I don't have anyone near me that I know of to talk about these things and to help me grow correctly. If you have any suggestions as far as communication goes, I would be honored!

If it's possible, I would love to talk with you and give you more details.


Yes I would love more details, do you want to email me? what would be the best way to do this

I guess we can start from email! My email address is Starchild_98@yahoo.com You can send me yours here. I will send you details from there.

:jumping: :jumping: :jumping:
Thank you so much for your time!!!!
You don't know how much this means to me!!!!

I guess we can start from email! My email address is Starchild_98@yahoo.com You can send me yours here. I will send you details from there.

:jumping: :jumping: :jumping:
Thank you so much for your time!!!!
You don't know how much this means to me!!!!


Ok mine is Arkatron@yahoo.com :shades:

Yes sistah I can help you. I also have dreams about loved ones. However I do see they're faces, and it's always the next closest relative to the one I dream about.

But to answer your question as how do you know you if you have psychic ability. You have a form of it, known as premonition or precognition. If you meditate on a regular basis you can cultivate it more precisely.

If you ask your self a question before you go to sleep, leave a pen and paper next to you so that when you wake up you can write down the answer.

The answer may not make sense right away but write down all you can remember about your dreams.

One more thing, I believe that your ancestors do not wish for you to know exactly who is about to pass. I beleive the Creator is preventing them from telling you who is passing.

Thank you
Ok i will start from here i guess..and work on my meditation..any suggestions

Thank you
Ok i will start from here i guess..and work on my meditation..any suggestions


Explain to me how you meditate, then I can answer your question a little better

Welli dont know exactly how...hmmm

Is it any links you can share with me?

or can you give me ideas on how to

my meditation is when i am in the tub with bubbles

and kids are sleep or in school...so i need to start from the beginning....

Welli dont know exactly how...hmmm

Is it any links you can share with me?

or can you give me ideas on how to

my meditation is when i am in the tub with bubbles

and kids are sleep or in school...so i need to start from the beginning....


Meditation is the state of not thinking, whether you do it in a tub or in a quiet room, the results are the same. The hardest part you may find is keeping your mind from drifting into thought. Don't be discouraged, just start over.

ok thank you...i be back looking for you...i think igot enough to start
thank you so much....and i am glad you didnt leave.....:grouphug:

ok thank you...i be back looking for you...i think igot enough to start
thank you so much....and i am glad you didnt leave.....:grouphug:


I'm here for my people sister, and it's good to feel needed. Thank you

Ashe

Once again your have managed to throw you own religious chauvinism in the mix. Nobody asked you about your God. So I suggest you stick to your own doctrine. THis has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. You are attempting to use every thread concerning spirituality to convince the members that your beliefs are the only one's that hold credence.
Why is that. is because nobody is visiting your page like you think they should.

You are not qualified to give advice on this topic, simply due to the fact that ancestral veneration and psychic ability are diametrically opposed to your Judeo/christian convictions.First off I can’t track nor do I desire to know who or how many visitors hit my web site. The tribes of Levi were the psychics of the people. I was just trying to see if there visions were of a GODLY nature, you know its possible.

What I present is not my beliefs; it is what the Bible presents when studied carefully. Your practice is very vulnerable to demonic control. You or they have no idea who or what those people or energies are in the visions. In visions if you do not establish a base, a mode of clarity what good is it if you are unable to comprehend?

After all, it is possible they are not visions but undegaussed memories of a previous life. To me that’s what the perception of India sounds like, a memory, not a vision.

Do you know the difference between a memory and a vision?

First off I can’t track nor do I desire to know who or how many visitors hit my web site. The tribes of Levi were the psychics of the people. I was just trying to see if there visions were of a GODLY nature, you know its possible.

What I present is not my beliefs; it is what the Bible presents when studied carefully. Your practice is very vulnerable to demonic control. You or they have no idea who or what those people or energies are in the visions. In visions if you do not establish a base, a mode of clarity what good is it if you are unable to comprehend?

After all, it is possible they are not visions but undegaussed memories of a previous life. To me that’s what the perception of India sounds like, a memory, not a vision.

Do you know the difference between a memory and a vision?


Whatever man, you bury your head in your doctrine, and don't worry about mine. Like I said before you have no expertise on this subject and you are here to try to supersede your beliefs, over those of others. This is religious chauvinism. WHo says your study of scripture is the only one that is correct. Jehovas witnesses make the same claim.

If you are not an initiate of Traditional African religion I suggest you mind your own affairs. The members in this thread asked me a series of questions. Not you.

Your God is exactly that, your God, the one you believe from the old testament. It obviously bothers you that 99% of the members don't share your beliefs. Is your ego so shallow that you have trouble accepting that. You have appointed yourself as the religion police, with little or no results. you manage to confront everyone here who does not agree with your doctine. You are out of place my man

Btw I've been initiating sistahs and brothas into ATR's for 20 years. There is no question of my guidance.

Ashe, brother Sekhemu....

I see the ancestors are still holding you firmly.

Blackbird - the Bear Walker

First off I can’t track nor do I desire to know who or how many visitors hit my web site. The tribes of Levi were the psychics of the people. I was just trying to see if there visions were of a GODLY nature, you know its possible.

What I present is not my beliefs; it is what the Bible presents when studied carefully. Your practice is very vulnerable to demonic control. You or they have no idea who or what those people or energies are in the visions. In visions if you do not establish a base, a mode of clarity what good is it if you are unable to comprehend?

After all, it is possible they are not visions but undegaussed memories of a previous life. To me that’s what the perception of India sounds like, a memory, not a vision.

Do you know the difference between a memory and a vision?

Hello Brother Music Producer

I understand your sincere concern. I too have considered the nature of such entities. However, I have not acquired the abilities to hear the voices of such entities. My strongest affirmation is my sensitivity to feel. I do ask questions of these forces. Such as: are you my guardian, are you my Father, Are you here to guide me. I then state if you are not sent by my father then you must go. Although I don't hear the answers I can atleast for most part feel when the energie/vibe is wrong. I am also aware that every practice that is embraced by man is vulnerable to demonic control if not handled with precise care or knowledge.

My experiences are not so brand new to me but I must admit that my knowledge of such is. I wasn't even aware of a tribe called Levi until you mentioned it. So I did a little research to see what/whom they were.

I believe that all religions have a connection. That because of different cultures the stories and names have been change. It's like the saying, Three people can witness the same accident but still they will produce three slightly different stories as to what happened.

I honestly cant say whether or not any of my experiences are past memories, which leads me to Brother Sekhemu. He has knowledge and experience with such matters. He has mentioned something that draws me to him. I am a strong believer that our paths are planned with choices that we can make.

So for the record, I haven't blocked you out. I hear you as well! We all have knowledge of somethings that can benefit us all. It all depends on what we are in need of at that present time. So thank you for you view on the subject as well.

Brother Sekhemu,

I sent you an email. Have you gotten it? Just wondering if I need to send it again. :o :luvv:

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Hello Brother Music Producer

I understand your sincere concern. I too have considered the nature of such entities. However, I have not acquired the abilities to hear the voices of such entities. My strongest affirmation is my sensitivity to feel. I do ask questions of these forces. Such as: are you my guardian, are you my Father, Are you here to guide me. I then state if you are not sent by my father then you must go. Although I don't hear the answers I can atleast for most part feel when the energie/vibe is wrong. I am also aware that every practice that is embraced by man is vulnerable to demonic control if not handled with precise care or knowledge.

My experiences are not so brand new to me but I must admit that my knowledge of such is. I wasn't even aware of a tribe called Levi until you mentioned it. So I did a little research to see what/whom they were.

I believe that all religions have a connection. That because of different cultures the stories and names have been change. It's like the saying, Three people can witness the same accident but still they will produce three slightly different stories as to what happened.

I honestly cant say whether or not any of my experiences are past memories, which leads me to Brother Sekhemu. He has knowledge and experience with such matters. He has mentioned something that draws me to him. I am a strong believer that our paths are planned with choices that we can make.

So for the record, I haven't blocked you out. I hear you as well! We all have knowledge of somethings that can benefit us all. It all depends on what we are in need of at that present time. So thank you for you view on the subject as well.I can see that you are naturally a positive person and you know how to communicate with out hostility and accusation. I only wish more black people had or could develop this ability to basically, be nice.

All I am trying to point out in this thread is if you or anyone has the ability to communicate or perceive beyond the norm your abilities would be a valuable asset to the forces of darkness. Every host of GOD that GOD created to play the role of Evil would be after you or that person with the ability.

Be mindful.

A memory will not have a guide and it will be in a format of you experiencing an event.
A vision will have a guide that will actually converse and explain. It is of the guide that you must ask if they are GOD. If you can’t hear their answer then ask it repeatedly until you can and pay no mind to the vision until the guide is verified friend or foe.

YH Bless.

Brother Sekhemu,

I sent you an email. Have you gotten it? Just wondering if I need to send it again. :o :luvv:


Yes I got it sister. I am currently writing you a reply :wink:

Do you believe that people have and can correspond with the ancestors?
Do you believe in people having physic abilities and premonitions?
Do you believe that people can talk to lost spirits?

If yes/no please elaborate. And explain why you do or dont.


I have a different perspective on this. I believe our anscestor possessed abilities, skills or gifts that are passed on. Sometimes these abilities skip generations. Science calls it heredity or family traits but believe it's more than that. I believe it's more like a spiritual legacy than genetic traits. These skills manifest themselves when needed.

I believe we have not scratched the surface of the potential of our minds. We are still in the infancy of our development. I so are psychic abilties possible? Sure.

I believe one can conjer spirits but not the spirits of our ancestors or the recently deceased. I believe they have moved on and are waiting on the otherside for us to join them. So the spirits we conjer can do us no good. I don't believe in lost or trapped spirits. This world has no hold on us, when we are gone we are gone.

I have a different perspective on this. I believe our anscestor possessed abilities, skills or gifts that are passed on. Sometimes these abilities skip generations. Science calls it heredity or family traits but believe it's more than that. I believe it's more like a spiritual legacy than genetic traits. These skills manifest themselves when needed.

I believe we have not scratched the surface of the potential of our minds. We are still in the infancy of our development. I so are psychic abilties possible? Sure.

I believe one can conjer spirits but not the spirits of our ancestors or the recently deceased. I believe they have moved on and are waiting on the otherside for us to join them. So the spirits we conjer can do us no good. I don't believe in lost or trapped spirits. This world has no hold on us, when we are gone we are gone.

You've made a number of good points regarding psychic abilities and latent powers that have been supressed over the centuries. However I must take issue with you regarding your comments concerning the invoking of ancestral spirits

You mention you believe one can conjur spirits but not ancestors. Is this belief based on an experience you had as an initiate in ATR systems. Because if it is not then you are basically just voicing an opinion and not a fact.

I have invoked a number of my ancestors. There is no question about their Identity or benevolence in my life today. So I will have to disagree with you on that brotha

You've made a number of good points regarding psychic abilities and latent powers that have been supressed over the centuries. However I must take issue with you regarding your comments concerning the invoking of ancestral spirits

You mention you believe one can conjur spirits but not ancestors. Is this belief based on an experience you had as an initiate in ATR systems. Because if it is not then you are basically just voicing an opinion and not a fact.

I have invoked a number of my ancestors. There is no question about their Identity or benevolence in my life today. So I will have to disagree with you on that brotha


If you have invoked done this more power to you brotha. I just feel I would rather not invoke them because I feel they're are in a far better place than they left. To me that would be like disturbing their well earned afterlife in paradise to be bother with the mere triffles of my life. Then again maybe our ancestors enjoy looking in on us from time to time. That would make them like guardian angels in a since. I like that thought.

in answer to the original questions
yes
yes
yes

i find somethings almost impossible to communicate about unless in a true one on one situation (ie..looking into the face of the questioneer)..

what I can say..(like sekhemu said)

be mindful

Yes, people can commune with their ancestors. Namely me! There are very precise and careful methods to invoke them .

Psychic ability is determined by the mother -child relation. My mother is a medium so it was fairly well developed in me before birth.

Most psychics operate on a gut feeling so to speak, thru meditation and libation your psychic awareness increases. There is a direct correlation between "talking" as well as feeding your ancestors and the hightened awareness of psychic ability

Ashe


Hi, it has been awhile since I have posted. I have been released of other obligations for a time so I am back!

I agree with you on your post except one point. It is true that mother-child relations can determine if one has certain born abilities, however, this is not to say that if one's mother is not intuned with her abilities that a child can or will not be. I have Aunts and cousins in my family who are psychic and my mother is to a degree but not as powerful as me. All of us have abilities, some different than others and all can be developed. So, just because a mother doesn't have any or they might be latent does not mean that a child can not possess abilities at all. I just wanted to clear that up.


Ashe!
Bastet

Ancestral memory is an "imprint" on the blood left by members in your family tree. It's a quickening of sorts, precipitated by crossing over what is called a grid.


Communicating with your ancestors is a deliberate attempt at establishing a symbiotic relationhip. However much caution is needed when doing this.

Some mediums see spirits without having to invoke them, this is called clairvoyance.


Hello again. I wanted to add to this excellent information that was given.

the experiences that you were or are having in your sleep is called Astral Travel. This type of "dreaming" is not actually dreaming at all and it does feel like a trance state. These are usually "visitations" of spirits or ancestors while you are sleeping. There is avery small percentage of people who "see" in this way. I do as well. I also "dream" in full color and very vivid with smell, touch and with "thinking abilities" what this means is that I can talk to myself in my visitations and make decisions while in the trance state. Some folks can "see" spirits and some can feel them, an empath, I am an empath and have no desire actually to fully "see" them. So, one of my gifts is Astral Travel. Placing a bowl of water under your bed at night is good. Also, laying sea salt in the four corners of your room is good as well for grounding and spiritual dream work.


Ashe!

bastet

Ashe, brother Sekhemu....

I see the ancestors are still holding you firmly.

Blackbird - the Bear Walker


Hello blackbird. It has been too long! I respect your insight and want your opinion. I am studying the Orisha and want to know which is my head. Now I have had many "visions" from the Orisha BEFORE I knew what they were. I won't go into detail here, but I have been told by a "friend" of mine who studies that I have a very strong connection/link with them and may have more than one as my head. How my brother do I go about finding this out?

Next, I am trying to find out what my spiritual name is. I have part of it but am blocked from recieving the rest of the message, do you know how I can get past this?

One more. (laughing) How do you percieve familiars and spirits who walk with you? Are these just ancestors Or can they be others on the other plane that have agreed to help us on our path/journey? How do I give respect to them during my conjuring?

Thank you and I hope you and yours are blessed!

Ashe!
Bastet

I believe one can conjer spirits but not the spirits of our ancestors or the recently deceased. I believe they have moved on and are waiting on the otherside for us to join them. So the spirits we conjer can do us no good. I don't believe in lost or trapped spirits. This world has no hold on us, when we are gone we are gone.


Actually we are all made up of energy and that energy AKA soul can stay, go anywhere and commune with God about the next life and come back or agree to help others which are what we call spirits or ancestors. There is a place of waiting for those that which to help others and not manifest back into flesh. This world that we live in are all apart of other worlds in which God created, so we are all linked into a huge cosmic design that we have not even begun to tap into. That is why we are able to commune with spirits and with ancestors. Even the bible speaks of it many, many times.


Ashe!

Bastet

Hello Lady Bastet and Welcome Back home Sister!!!

Thank you for adding to the discussion! Looking forward to reading more from you! I'm sure you have much to share.

Brother Sekhemu has started another post titled Attention Blackdot intiates. You can read that and add to it as well.

Welcome Back Sister!

Hello Lady Bastet and Welcome Back home Sister!!!

Thank you for adding to the discussion! Looking forward to reading more from you! I'm sure you have much to share.

Brother Sekhemu has started another post titled Attention Blackdot intiates. You can read that and add to it as well.

Welcome Back Sister!


Ok, I will check out the post and thanks again, it feels good to be back!

Bastet

Hello blackbird. It has been too long! I respect your insight and want your opinion. I am studying the Orisha and want to know which is my head. Now I have had many "visions" from the Orisha BEFORE I knew what they were. I won't go into detail here, but I have been told by a "friend" of mine who studies that I have a very strong connection/link with them and may have more than one as my head. How my brother do I go about finding this out?

Next, I am trying to find out what my spiritual name is. I have part of it but am blocked from recieving the rest of the message, do you know how I can get past this?

One more. (laughing) How do you percieve familiars and spirits who walk with you? Are these just ancestors Or can they be others on the other plane that have agreed to help us on our path/journey? How do I give respect to them during my conjuring?

Thank you and I hope you and yours are blessed!

Ashe!
Bastet


Greetings Sista,

It is good to hear from you. I hope everything has been going well and the Creator is revealing what needs to be revealed. In regards to the orisa claiming one's head, it is said only one claims your head. This one would be the energy you incarnated into the world with. There are stories of people getting initiated into the wrong orisa and going crazy. Typically, one would consult Ifa to determine who claims one's head. Any other method is mainly speculation so Ifa would be the confirmation. Sometimes, one's orisa can be determined by noticing one's character traits, personality and/or physical attributes. Which one do you believe carries your head? I'm a child of Ellegua myself. :devil:

Now regarding contacting your inner spirit, definitely I would advise praising, cleansing and making offering to your Ori. You can place camphor and water underneath your bed at night before you sleep. You can also leave a glass of cool water and a white candle by your bedside resting on a table if possible. You can write a message with your request and place it underneath the glass of water. Remember to visit your altar and open communication with your spirits.

Some spirits that walk with us are very beneficial and benevolent, others are neutral (if you will) and the remainder can be very destructive and malevolent. Don't just assume all spirits attach to us in order to help us in life or fulfill their requirements for light. Spirits still assume the same traits as people. You have good people and those not so good. There are many spirits that will try to do any and everything to hinder our growth and cause chaos in our lives. These are the ones we try to avoid or do things to remove them from us. Many Afrikan-amerikans, even good devout Christian folk, have spirits walking with us that definitely try to hold us back and influence our decisions for the worst. Alot of times this spirits are "white". I had one removed from me, a "white" spirit bent on destroying me. I recall many Black folks who have had to have "white" spirits removed. They alot of times are the spirits of plantation owners and slave masters that we inherit from our folks. Not all beneficial spirits walking with us are our bloodline ancestors, however, they are still deemed ancestors as our guides and teachers.

The best way to propitiate spirits "walking with us" during our work is to pour out water for libation and invoke their presence. I use this alot when I conduct readings and the like.

Are you a fellow rootworker as well? My Native American ancestor, hmm?

Any questions? You know you can ask.... Hope this helps,

Blackbird (feeds from the offering of corn for humility)

Greetings Sista,

It is good to hear from you. I hope everything has been going well and the Creator is revealing what needs to be revealed. In regards to the orisa claiming one's head, it is said only one claims your head. This one would be the energy you incarnated into the world with. There are stories of people getting initiated into the wrong orisa and going crazy. Typically, one would consult Ifa to determine who claims one's head. Any other method is mainly speculation so Ifa would be the confirmation. Sometimes, one's orisa can be determined by noticing one's character traits, personality and/or physical attributes. Which one do you believe carries your head? I'm a child of Ellegua myself. :devil:

Now regarding contacting your inner spirit, definitely I would advise praising, cleansing and making offering to your Ori. You can place camphor and water underneath your bed at night before you sleep. You can also leave a glass of cool water and a white candle by your bedside resting on a table if possible. You can write a message with your request and place it underneath the glass of water. Remember to visit your altar and open communication with your spirits.

Some spirits that walk with us are very beneficial and benevolent, others are neutral (if you will) and the remainder can be very destructive and malevolent. Don't just assume all spirits attach to us in order to help us in life or fulfill their requirements for light. Spirits still assume the same traits as people. You have good people and those not so good. There are many spirits that will try to do any and everything to hinder our growth and cause chaos in our lives. These are the ones we try to avoid or do things to remove them from us. Many Afrikan-amerikans, even good devout Christian folk, have spirits walking with us that definitely try to hold us back and influence our decisions for the worst. Alot of times this spirits are "white". I had one removed from me, a "white" spirit bent on destroying me. I recall many Black folks who have had to have "white" spirits removed. They alot of times are the spirits of plantation owners and slave masters that we inherit from our folks. Not all beneficial spirits walking with us are our bloodline ancestors, however, they are still deemed ancestors as our guides and teachers.

The best way to propitiate spirits "walking with us" during our work is to pour out water for libation and invoke their presence. I use this alot when I conduct readings and the like.

Are you a fellow rootworker as well? My Native American ancestor, hmm?

Any questions? You know you can ask.... Hope this helps,

Blackbird (feeds from the offering of corn for humility)


This was extraodinary advice. Thank you brotha

Ashe!

I must say you have helped me out a lot with your eloquent and insightful response. I am still in the early phases of learning all of this. I have learned about much of what you said about spirits, good vs. not so good. I have been keeping my senses open so to speak. I have some "white" spirits as you call them. I know this because I have a particular one that has made herself known to me during my dreams. She is not "good" and it is apparent she does not like me. She is threatened by me some how and the fact that I show no fear and feel none makes her mad. I have had an Orisha (Oya) show up and give me "gifts" of some kind that I carry on my person. I am sorry to say that I have not been able to discern what they are or why she has given them to me.

To answer your question, I think my head is Oya. She visits me in my visions and makes her presence known in my daily walk when I ask her to help me. I have many characteristics of her, but then again I do as well of Chango, and Oshun. I am still on the search. I have been told that the Orisha will change position according to the persons needs in life so I have at least 5 that walk strong with me.

The most disappointing aspect of all of this is finding someone whom I can trust to help me walk this path. I am very interested in Ifa/Vodoun. I know even though I fight it, yes I am being honest, that this is my path. I am at home with hoodoo and am learning the practices of this folk magic actively and with much enthusiasim.

I really want to connect with ones that can initate me in this path and teach me the old ways of my people. I know one of my many paths and gifts is to teach, serve, heal, counsel and lead my people through this path, its just finding someone who can assist me in the proper function of it all.

Ohh What to do?

Yes, I do have Native American all up in my path as well. For instance not too long ago from a vision, I learned that my totem animal, my power animal are snakes. A little FYI... I do not like snakes, I can remember since I was a little girl dreaming about them and waking up screaming. Now they send me messages in my sleep and have actually helped me to heal during sickness. Amazing how all things are connected. I don't fear them as much but I still am very cautious. I just don't love em.

I want to thank you for your gracious advice. I will be checking into to your opinons and views. I am excited about it, I have been having visions lately of a lush green place with huge old white houses with pillars. Its hot and I am in the deep south. At first I thought it was Florida where my family is from, then I realized it was not. I had a recollection from a Psychic that she could see my traveling or moving to the south. She named 3 states. Texas, Florida (which I had moved from back to Michigan) and Louisianna! I might be taking me a trip to New Orleans, I am feeling like that is where the vision is coming from. I am going to tell you I am scared! But my willingness to learn,shape and form myself into what the creator wants me to be drives me to keep going.


Thanks again Brotha Blackbird.

Lady

Ase!

Sista Lady,

It is good to hear you are walking your path. Iba e Yansa. Maferefun Oya! Ase, ase, ase-o!

Definitely, my baba, Ellegua, shows up often in my dreams - warning me or offering me guidance. Iba e Baba.

This is my take on "white" spirits and Afrikan descendants. People wonder why we behave the way we do, many times not in the best interest of our Afrikan selves and our community.... I believe it is do to these "white" spirits we have among us.

"I am at home with hoodoo and am learning the practices of this folk magic actively and with much enthusiasim."

Likewise, I too feel at home with rootwork. I have been working roots for a while now. By doing this, you feel as if there is an unbroken chain connecting you to previous generations and they are guiding your thoughts and the way you handle things regarding "work".

"I really want to connect with ones that can initate me in this path and teach me the old ways of my people. I know one of my many paths and gifts is to teach, serve, heal, counsel and lead my people through this path, its just finding someone who can assist me in the proper function of it all."

Peace, I understand. The real initiation comes from your egun and your inner spirit. Your egun will lead you to the experiences and house you need for growth. I can testify about that on my journey of initiation into Vodou and Palo.

Sista, there is too much to tell you of how much I've learned lately. I have alot of Indian spirits that walk with me. One particular one, an ancestor, was revealed at a spiritual gathering as a medicine man who was passing gifts on to me. He guides my practice in hoodoo - providing ase to conduct readings and do work. Many more. Honor your spirits. They walk with you for a purpose. My Indian ancestor came in my dream as a blackbird (hence my name). He shapeshifted into a blackbird to protect. Many shamans were known to possess the knowledge to shapeshift and I know my ancestor knew this. Blackbirds appear to me when I need strength and protection. Definitely, that is my totem - the Blackbird (The Raven).

I know some ab'orisa in Nawlins. So if you need any contacts, let me know. I know a few mambos as well.

Ire-O!
Blackbird (shapeshifts into the dark of night)

Thank you for your input, I appreciate it! I will remain on my path, work with my spirits and develop myself with respect for what and who I am now and to become.

Peace my brotha

Lady Bastet

Do you believe that people have and can correspond with the ancestors?
Do you believe in people having physic abilities and premonitions?
Do you believe that people can talk to lost spirits?

If yes/no please elaborate. And explain why you do or dont.


Yes...Yes...Yes...


Prayer, Meditation, Devotion are ways to 'commune' with Ancestors and the "Spirit World'.

Yes, people can commune with their ancestors. Namely me! There are very precise and careful methods to invoke them .

Psychic ability is determined by the mother -child relation. My mother is a medium so it was fairly well developed in me before birth.

Most psychics operate on a gut feeling so to speak, thru meditation and libation your psychic awareness increases. There is a direct correlation between "talking" as well as feeding your ancestors and the hightened awareness of psychic ability

Ashe

"Psychic ability is determined by the mother-child relation."

True indeed. As is one's emotional nature.

i just viewed this thread this morning! The more i see your post the more i begin two think that our paths kind of mirror one another at times. My mother two is very intouch with her inner or spritual self. I have heard revelaitions from her as well as her mentor regarding me i have seen come to past. My question is this: I often her music when i go into trance(tribal tones vibration). this music is often accompanied by language. i have often written it down and tried to convey it to my family or friends. They just think that i am crazy as a betsy bug. MY mother just tells to sit down and concentrate. That is easy for her to say because she is advanced and much of her dna is already in tune with the process as with most of our women being in tune with the neters. I will scan the thread for any helpful info i can get. Please dialouge with me . are u fimilar with offerings for our ancestos and other principles praticed by the dogon. Great thread once again purple!

i just viewed this thread this morning! The more i see your post the more i begin two think that our paths kind of mirror one another at times.
Hi Brother emanuel:hi:
Yes, I think we have something very much in sync here. Perhaps it's our yearning to know and understand ourselves, or it could be we're walkin together on the same path, or its just something bigger than what we can understand at this point, but I do feel the connection also.

My mother two is very intouch with her inner or spritual self. I have heard revelaitions from her as well as her mentor regarding me i have seen come to past. My question is this: I often her music when i go into trance(tribal tones vibration). this music is often accompanied by language. i have often written it down and tried to convey it to my family or friends. They just think that i am crazy as a betsy bug. MY mother just tells to sit down and concentrate. That is easy for her to say because she is advanced and much of her dna is already in tune with the process as with most of our women being in tune with the neters. I will scan the thread for any helpful info i can get. Please dialouge with me . are u fimilar with offerings for our ancestos and other principles praticed by the dogon. Great thread once again purple!

I can recall a time when I've heard drums and a language I didn't understand. I also had a vision that accompanied that. I remember an African man reached out to me and lead me closer to a ceremony that was going on. There were other people who was dancing, singing, and talking to me. I never truly understood why I was hearing and seeing these things in my mind, and I still don't. I just brushed it off as something that was implanted in my mind by television and/or movies.

As for libation, I haven't tried that. I feel I'm not knowledgeable enough to practice this method without someone more experience around to guide me. I don't want to screw up and pull in the wrong energy. I do feel as if my Ancestors have been with me, protecting me from dark energies all my life. I have been in some very bad situations and made it out physical unharmed. Situations that many aren't so fortunate in. I have even witness harm come to those who have/have tried to hurt me drastically. Some might say its just a coincidence, but in my heart I don't feel it is. Sometimes I feel like something just wraps its arms around me and hugs me. I would get this very warm and loved sensation all throughout me. The kind that just makes you melt inside out. I can almost hear a voice from inside say, "Don't worry, I got you." The Brothers and Sisters here who knows more about offerings, usually will help you. Just ask them. I'm almost sure they'll be willing to share this information.

People who don't recognized certain changes in their own body, or rarely take notice of people around them, usually don't understand when you speak of hearing sounds, seeing strange things, and premonitions you've witnessed come to past. So I usually talk with my sisters, who are familiar with such. Sometimes you won't understand what it means for years. Then oneday, it will hit you. Your mother is right. Don't beat yourself up to understand, just put it in your memory. You will know when it is time to know.

Oh Yeah! I just got this book yesterday that Brother I-Kahn recommended in one of his threads. It's titled: Zulu Shaman....Dreams, Prophecies, and mysteries, By Credo Mutwa. He's a Dogon Chief. If I find something pertaining to offerings in it, I will post it for you.

Much Love to you Brother!:luvv: We can learn and grow together.:heart:

Hi Brother emanuel:hi:
Yes, I think we have something very much in sync here. Perhaps it's our yearning to know and understand ourselves, or it could be we're walkin together on the same path, or its just something bigger than what we can understand at this point, but I do feel the connection also.



I can recall a time when I've heard drums and a language I didn't understand. I also had a vision that accompanied that. I remember an African man reached out to me and lead me closer to a ceremony that was going on. There were other people who was dancing, singing, and talking to me. I never truly understood why I was hearing and seeing these things in my mind, and I still don't. I just brushed it off as something that was implanted in my mind by television and/or movies.

As for libation, I haven't tried that. I feel I'm not knowledgeable enough to practice this method without someone more experience around to guide me. I don't want to screw up and pull in the wrong energy. I do feel as if my Ancestors have been with me, protecting me from dark energies all my life. I have been in some very bad situations and made it out physical unharmed. Situations that many aren't so fortunate in. I have even witness harm come to those who have/have tried to hurt me drastically. Some might say its just a coincidence, but in my heart I don't feel it is. Sometimes I feel like something just wraps its arms around me and hugs me. I would get this very warm and loved sensation all throughout me. The kind that just makes you melt inside out. I can almost hear a voice from inside say, "Don't worry, I got you." The Brothers and Sisters here who knows more about offerings, usually will help you. Just ask them. I'm almost sure they'll be willing to share this information.

People who don't recognized certain changes in their own body, or rarely take notice of people around them, usually don't understand when you speak of hearing sounds, seeing strange things, and premonitions you've witnessed come to past. So I usually talk with my sisters, who are familiar with such. Sometimes you won't understand what it means for years. Then oneday, it will hit you. Your mother is right. Don't beat yourself up to understand, just put it in your memory. You will know when it is time to know.

Oh Yeah! I just got this book yesterday that Brother I-Kahn recommended in one of his threads. It's titled: Zulu Shaman....Dreams, Prophecies, and mysteries, By Credo Mutwa. He's a Dogon Chief. If I find something pertaining to offerings in it, I will post it for you.

Much Love to you Brother!:luvv: We can learn and grow together.:heart:

I will soon be digging through some crates and digging out some music myself which I have had in my posession for years just to see the degree in whch it increases my "iration". It seems more than a handful of us have been following a similar path for years. Excellent information in this thread. Thanks for sharing sister PM. I had forgot about this one.