ifasehun 10-18-2003, 05:45 PM U can get my opinion by reading below:
Once again Israel shows it's true colors:
The Israeli government decided on Sept 11, 2003 to "remove" Yasir Arafat, authorizing actions in the future to exile, jail or possibly kill him. The decision, which followed Hamas suicide bombings that killed Israelis.
Under the headline "Enough," The Jerusalem Post editorialized in mid Sept: "We must kill as many of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders as possible, as quickly as possible, while minimizing collateral damage, but not letting that damage stop us. And we must kill Yasir Arafat, because the world leaves us no alternative.'
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Can Israel Legally Fence in Human beings just because they live in Palestine? (http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1546.shtml)
In late July, conservative American commentator Ben Shapiro wrote in his syndicated column deploring what he saw as American and Israeli squeamishness in the “war on terror.”
“I am getting really sick of people who whine about ‘civilian casualties,’” he wrote. “Maybe I’m a hard-hearted guy, but when I see in the newspapers that civilians in Afghanistan or the West Bank were killed by American or Israeli troops, I don’t really care. In fact, I would rather that the good guys use the air force to kill the bad guys, even if that means some civilians get killed along the way. One American soldier is worth far more than an Afghan civilian.”
Amnesty International Says Israel Practices Exclusion (http://www.palestinemonitor.org/Special%20Section/Closure/end_closures.htm)
20% of all Palestinians Killed are children
Israelis are Modern Day Nazis (http://www.palestinemonitor.org/factsheet/factsheet_on_torture.htm)
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uzoka 10-26-2003, 11:04 AM Another example of racist European arrogance and deception.
The land belongs to the palestinians!
Sopdet 10-26-2003, 11:16 AM Many people might be shocked on this forum,but black Palistineans exist around Jerusalem. Most black Palistineans live around Jerico,Gaza,and other regions. I have personally meet these people that tell me their desendants either come from slaves or from bedouin tribes from hijza. I have an article about them,but I cannot post it in the forum,because of copyright infringments.
If you are interested in the article,I can email it to you by email,or private message.
Emeka 11-08-2003, 06:58 AM Hold on...What the HELL!!! Why should we care or sympathize with the way Palestinians are being treated by Isreal. What's there struggel got to do with us black people. Yes the state of Israel one of the most racist countries on earth. But don't you know that the Arabs are equally racist especially when it comes to black people. Just as the europeans use the "N" word to try and dehumanize and enslave us, the Arabs have there own word: Abeed! Arabs are not our friends, nor the europeans, the chinese or whoever. We are our only friends the sooner we learn it the better. The conversion of so many African Americans (especailly males) to Islam really frieghtens me. If they could only understand that Islam has traditionally been spread through Africa in the form of Jihad and enslavement. This notion that somehow "Islam is the religion of the black man" is rubbish. Islam is no more the religion of the black man than Christianity. Till this day Arabs are still enslaving Africans and shipping them back to their countries. I don't know about you but these are no the kind of people I want to be accociating as my friends. In the case of the Israeli Palestinian conflict I say: "The enemy of my enemy is STILL my enemy."
NNQueen 11-20-2003, 07:56 AM Chukwuemeka, welcome to our forums. I hope you enjoy your time here and continue to share your knowledge and opinions with us. You raise interesting points in your messages about issues that I know very little about. But reading your messages have sparked my curiousity.
I've often wondered what it is that Blacks find interesting about Islam and why they gravitate toward it. Do they feel a philosophical connection, but what is the most important attraction? On a more simple level, I've questioned why anyone would want to join fraternities/sororities with Greek names? What is the most significant attraction to wanting to associate with people under that kind of title?
I see no one challenging your point about Arabs and how they, as a people, perceive and treat Africans, which if what you say is true, would cause me serious concern about supporting them simply because they are fighting against a faction of people that are oppressing them. Just how supportive are they of our struggle?
Sopdet wrote that there are Black Palestinians...whose roots stem from slaves and Bedouin tribes. This gets so complicated doesn't it and makes it difficult for some to understand who to trust and support. After all, hasn't it been pointed out more times than I can count that Africa is the root of civilization?
But somewhere along the evolution chain there came the white man and things changed because then race became an issue along with power and greed. Is the world made up of white people, then there is everyone else? Do we assume that any enemy of white people is our friend and therefore, deserves our support? Is it that simple? I dare say that is hardly true.
If all enemies of whites successfully banned together and defeated Europeans, then what? Would there still be a pie and if so, how will it then be sliced?
I don't know...these are just some very random thoughts about our perceptions of the world and us as a people.
Peace.
omowalejabali 06-10-2006, 12:36 AM Hold on...What the HELL!!! Why should we care or sympathize with the way Palestinians are being treated by Isreal. What's there struggel got to do with us black people. Yes the state of Israel one of the most racist countries on earth. But don't you know that the Arabs are equally racist especially when it comes to black people. Just as the europeans use the "N" word to try and dehumanize and enslave us, the Arabs have there own word: Abeed! Arabs are not our friends, nor the europeans, the chinese or whoever. We are our only friends the sooner we learn it the better. The conversion of so many African Americans (especailly males) to Islam really frieghtens me. If they could only understand that Islam has traditionally been spread through Africa in the form of Jihad and enslavement. This notion that somehow "Islam is the religion of the black man" is rubbish. Islam is no more the religion of the black man than Christianity. Till this day Arabs are still enslaving Africans and shipping them back to their countries. I don't know about you but these are no the kind of people I want to be accociating as my friends. In the case of the Israeli Palestinian conflict I say: "The enemy of my enemy is STILL my enemy."
A good number of Palestinians happen to be CHRISTIANS!
abdurratln 04-01-2007, 04:40 PM Hold on...What the HELL!!!
I know y'all mad. But, this is a nice respectable civbilized forum. No bad words, please.
Why should we care or sympathize with the way Palestinians are being treated by Isreal.
Try the facts that we have been abused, mistreated, exploited and oppressed by the same type pigs that the zionists are for the past 500 years. Besides, as good Christians and Muslims and Jews, we believe in fairness and justice for everybody.
What's there strugglel got to do with us black people.
Look at a map. Palestine is on the front doorsteps of Africa. The zionists have a history of attacking us. We have not and will not forget that.
Yes the state of Israel one of the most racist countries on earth.
Tell me something new, Baaaabe. Tell me that ya' loooo-ove me.
But
No "buts", Sugar. That is almost a bad word around these parts.
don't you know that the Arabs are equally racist
Lie. especially when it comes to black people.
Lie, again. Just as the europeans use the "N" word to try and dehumanize and enslave us, the Arabs have there own word: Abeed!
What exactly does abid mean? It sure is not the n-word. AAAHHHHHHH! Now I see, said the blind man "Abeed" is a stupidization of Abd. Right? To understand its meaning, drop the vowels and get Abd. Abd is a very, very common name in all Islamic cultures. It has absolutely nothing to do with "race" or ethnicity. It simply means slave.
It means slave. But in Islamic cultures, slave is not a bad thing. Abd usually means Slave of Allah (This is a compliment, not an insult.) For instance the Kings of Jordan and Saudi Arabia are named Abdullah. Sound like the n-word to you? You need hearing aids.
Arabs are not our friends
Lie, again. (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2000/499/profile.htm). His Excellency Gamal Abd (there's that n-word, again) el-Nasser, the first president of Egypt supported the African Independence movement from day-one. He had to. Afterall, Egypt is a part of Africa. The Redeemer of Africa Osagyfo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah and el-Nasser were very close friends and collaborators. In fact they were more than friends, they were and are extended family. In this case, there is no discontinuity between Arab and African. (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2000/499/profile.htm)
[QUOTE]nor the europeans,
It took you a while, but you finally got it right. Once.
the chinese or whoever.
Wrong., again. (http://english.people.com.cn/200606/25/eng20060625_277236.html. And, allafrica.com/stories/200604250832.html ) We are our only friends the sooner we learn it the better. The conversion of so many African Americans (especailly males) to Islam really frieghtens me. If they could only understand that Islam has traditionally been spread through Africa in the form of Jihad and enslavement.
Wrong, again. As a matter of fact, you are more than than wrong. A casual knowledge of history shows you to be an outright liar. I can understand your Islamophobia, however. Too many of us Muslims are Abd's. That means too many of us are Slaves of Allah. When one is a Slave of Allah, one can be a slave of no man. As for Jihad, I seem to recall that it were the African Muslims who took Jihad to Europe, all the way to Spain and Albania and the former Soviet Union. History is our best teacher.
This notion that somehow "Islam is the religion of the black man" is rubbish.
What was Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) if not a Black man?
Islam is no more the religion of the black man than Christianity.
Both Islam and Christianity are rooted in Africa, as is Judaism.
I greet you with the Ancient Words of Peace: As-Salam Alaikum.
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