Yesterday, 2/18, I visited this West African website http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/sil2/r.php?thread=645615 and came across a posting called "THE BLING BLING TRIBE IN NORTH AMERICA posted by a gentleman from Barbados. I found it very distrubing due to its content. I then began to ask myself how and when will we unify as a race when we think so little of each other. I have pasted the above mentioned posting below so that you can read it. How do you respond to such a posting?

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Author: Young Bajan (registered user)
Date: 02-18-2003 15:49

The Bling-Bling Tribe of North America

Although there are a few of them on SIL (elvira, The Duke/Illuminati), not much is written about the bling-bling people, because they are largely semi-literate people with limited writing skills. This is the first article in a series on the bling-bling, which will examine their culture, lifestyle and language.

Note: The correct written form of the name is "bling-bling"... without capitals. The B's are only capitalised when used in a caption with title case format, and the first B only at the start of a new sentence.

Nuff Respect, Young Bajan.

Bling-Bling

Location: The United States of America, with a small diasporal presence and some cultural penetration in other parts of North America, the Caribbean, Europe and Africa.

Population: Unknown (Too many if you ask me. As far as I'm concerned, the only good bling-bling is a dead bling-bling.)

Language: Rap/Street Talk

Types of Art: Body Tattoes, Graffiti, Earrings in noses, navels, eyebrows, etc., Multiple Earrings in ears. (For females, nine inch nails.)

History: The bling-bling are black people of African descent living in the United States of America among the other black people found there. They are all the direct offspring of non-bling-bling black Americans, and like their parents were born into a grievance culture. The appearance of the bling-bling has only occurred within the past 20 years or so.

Economy: Drug dealing, prostitution, car-jacking and armed robbery. Their tradition role in American society is to ensure that jails are fully populated, and to provide candidates for the welfare system. The elite of bling-bling society are some of the richest and most famous people in the world today, and are exclusively involved in the rap industry.

Political Systems: The bling-bling have no political ambitions in the conventional sense. (None of them has ever voted.) Their political system is comprised of leadership of multiple small geographical areas, known as "turf". Each turf is controlled by a predominant gang within the turf. All resources within the turf belong to the ruling gang, and each gang is headed by a gang leader, who is always a male. Control of turf and changes of leadership are done in a variety of ways, all of which involve some form of violence, particularly drive-by shootings.

Religion: The bling-bling worship material things. Gold, as with most other cultures, is the most precious of metals to them. Unlike some other cultures who hide their gold reserves in bank vaults, the bling-bling prefer to carry their gold in public view at all times. Crack cocaine and marijuana are used when meditating, and the bling-bling meditate very often, usually at nightclubs, but also at home. When bling-bling attend church, it is almost always for funerals.

Family Structure: Bling-bling society is a polygamous one. Each male will usually have a favourite female or "*****" as the bling-bling call them, but they normally do not stay together long after the birth of the first child. Parenting is primarily the responsibility of the female, who may have more than one child each with a different father.

Life Expectancy: Unknown. Due to a high death rate, none of the adult bling-bling who were alive 20 years ago when they first appeared are alive today. It is unknown whether any bling-bling has ever reached the age of 40.

Culture: BET.

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THE FOLLOWING POSTING IS A RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE POSTING

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Author: ħ§rêÿ® (registered user)
Date: 02-18-2003 16:25

>> semi-literate people with limited writing skills. -- TRUE. They ALL speak something called Ebonics, which the most useless of them tried to introduce into the school system as a viable tutoring language.

>> Too many if you ask me. As far as I'm concerned, the only good bling-bling is a dead bling-bling. -- TRUE. They accomplish this by killing themselves all over the ghettos of this country, then complain about oppression by the white man.

>> (For females, nine inch nails.) -- TRUE. Also, large ear-rings, fake hair, unsightly coiffure, pungent perfumes, loud and abnoxious.

>> were born into a grievance culture. -- TRUE. They are animals.

>> Economy: -- Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, then blame their disproportionate incarceration on the criminal system.

>> (None of them has ever voted.) -- TRUE. Then they complain about lack of representation, as though representatives fall from above like rain.

>> The bling-bling worship material things. -- TRUE. They kill each other for sneakers, the rims on their cars, etc., then blame "society" for their plight.

>> who may have more than one child each with a different father. -- TRUE. This was encouraged by the welfare system which gave aid in accordance with one's dependents. Therefore the more children, the more aid (food stamps, subsidized housing, MedicAID, etc). These animals objected most strongly to the Welfare Reform Act because they were content with their free ride, the way it had been for generations. In some families, up to three or four generations had never worked -- living off my taxes. Animals!

>> Life Expectancy: They often state, "I'm lucky if I live to 25." The unfortunate thing is they live according to that mentality and kill themselves off.

>> Culture: BET. -- TRUE. In addition to as much TV as possible, video games, violent or empty films(Scar Face is among their favorites). Basically, they are the CESSPOOL of society. Animals!

Not one for loooong postings, and so I end my response here.

Although said in a vicious manner, much of this is true when you think of the behaviors attributed to the "Bling-Bling" people.

It's funny how many Black people jumped all over Bill Cosby for speaking of these things, yet many of those same Black people nodded their heads in agreement with a dead White man who, almost 300 years ago, allegedly gave a speech about slaves.

Yes, this entry is derogatory and meant to insult; but when you look beyond that, much of this is truth, an ugly truth but still truth.

However, as to any world-wide Black unity, personally, I don't think that is possible. I believe there can be "pockets" of unity and solidarity, nationally and internationally. But only in part, not as a whole.

It's funny how many Black people jumped all over Bill Cosby for speaking of these things, yet many of those same Black people nodded their heads in agreement with a dead White man who, almost 300 years ago, allegedly gave a speech about slaves.

Huh:?:

are you referring to the "bling-bling" people here:?:

and...."ALLEGEDLY":?: You have not SEEN those speeches in WRITING....in they BOOKS:?:

I ask the question regarding this phenomenon they call...the "bling-bling tribe of north amerikkka".....
HOW DID THEY GET THAT WAY when they were clearly NOT that way before thier MAAFA-FIC experience here in the North:?:
What role did their captors play in creating the environment for this culture to emerge:?:
Is there anything...outside of religious beliefs which seem to be a major tool in the creation of said "tribe"...that can REPAIR this damage:?:

or..are those Afreekans...who were also socialized via the process of COLONIZATION and who can be labeled as....the "Verbally Assaultive Klans of the Continental Afreekan"....simply behaving as their Colonizers in this destructive language against a part of the SELF....."self-haters" maybe more appropriate term for them...:qqb010:
and in the end....having the same effect on the self as the bling-bling tribe what was taken out of them

M.E.
:hearts2:

Huh:?:

are you referring to the "bling-bling" people here:?:



Yes, I mean the "Bling-Bling" people referenced in the entries.

Although debasing in language and tone, much of the behavior is true.

Yes, I mean the "Bling-Bling" people referenced in the entries.




those same Black people nodded their heads in agreement with a dead White man who, almost 300 years ago, allegedly gave a speech about slaves.

This is what I asked you about....

when and where have they nodded their heads about what white man who gave what alleged speech:?:


M.E.
:hearts2:

This is what I asked you about....

when and where have they nodded their heads about what white man who gave what alleged speech:?:


M.E.
:hearts2:

Yes, I mean the "Willie Lynch Speech." I said "allegedly" because, although what it contained is true, I doubt the validity of its authenticity.

Who has ever actually seen the speech? Where is it? Who found it? Where did it come from before it appeared on the internet?

to answer the thread question: prolly by not exhuming a 5 years dead thread by a "member" that made one post and hasn't been around since a couple weeks thereafter?

However, as to any world-wide Black unity, personally, I don't think that is possible. I believe there can be "pockets" of unity and solidarity, nationally and internationally. But only in part, not as a whole.unless, of course, one has some sort of "affinity" for the words of the poster(s)?



(:thinking: <:?:scratchin my head:?:> maybe you brought up some valid thoughts, true.:thinking:)

to answer the thread question: prolly by not exhuming a 5 years dead thread by a "member" that made one post and hasn't been around since a couple weeks thereafter?

What does the age of the thread or the absence of the poster have to do with discussing the topic? I found an old thread with 0 replies and posted to it because I thought it an interesting topic.

unless, of course, one has some sort of "affinity" for the words of the poster(s)?

Who is this "one" you speak of? Since I'm the "one" who bumped it up, I can only deduce you mean me. However, how does "vicious," "derogatory," and "insulting" equate with "affinity?"

(:thinking: <:?:scratchin my head:?:> maybe you brought up some valid thoughts, true.:thinking:)

I'd love to read your thoughts.

This is what I asked you about....

when and where have they nodded their heads about what white man who gave what alleged speech:?:


M.E.
:hearts2:

Well, actually, you asked so many questions, I wasn't sure which were for me and which were directed to the OP. You could have been speaking to yourself again or they were, perhaps, rhetorical questions.

Huh:?:

are you referring to the "bling-bling" people here:?:

and...."ALLEGEDLY":?: You have not SEEN those speeches in WRITING....in they BOOKS:?:

I ask the question regarding this phenomenon they call...the "bling-bling tribe of north amerikkka".....
HOW DID THEY GET THAT WAY when they were clearly NOT that way before thier MAAFA-FIC experience here in the North:?:
What role did their captors play in creating the environment for this culture to emerge:?:
Is there anything...outside of religious beliefs which seem to be a major tool in the creation of said "tribe"...that can REPAIR this damage:?:

or..are those Afreekans...who were also socialized via the process of COLONIZATION and who can be labeled as....the "Verbally Assaultive Klans of the Continental Afreekan"....simply behaving as their Colonizers in this destructive language against a part of the SELF....."self-haters" maybe more appropriate term for them...:qqb010:
and in the end....having the same effect on the self as the bling-bling tribe what was taken out of them

M.E.
:hearts2:

I guess the question that was for me just got lost in the barrage.

Allow me to clear up some fog for you...

you said
It's funny how many Black people jumped all over Bill Cosby for speaking of these things, yet many of those same Black people nodded their heads in agreement with a dead White man who, almost 300 years ago, allegedly gave a speech about slaves.

along with your other points...

I asked
Huh

are you referring to the "bling-bling" people here

and...."ALLEGEDLY" You have not SEEN those speeches in WRITING....in they BOOKS
related to that one piece of your....points...

The rest where questions I'm pretty CERTAIN I took responsibility for when I said...


I ask the question regarding this phenomenon they call..

Does that help:?:


M.E.
:hearts2:

with every other black person? I can agree with Elder Osirus when he says that not every black person if divine - there are bad characters amongst us, criminals really, just like in other races. Unifying people based on skin color is an impossible task, because we simply do not have similar wants, desires and dreams. Now for those who want to move ahead politically, then they can form a group to do that. Those who want to stop the spread of false religions they can do that. But we have to accept that we work well in sub-groups achieving specific achievable goals.

Not every Indian or First Nations person feels one with his own "race". Remember race only matters to the whites as a means to identify those whom they wish to privilege and those they wish to exclude.

Oops, baby's got the keyboard again..

bolding some of your responses isn't really necessary unless, of course, for some reason you want to give it added weight. for the life of me, with respect to this reply, i couldn't imagine why. What does the age of the thread or the absence of the poster have to do with discussing the topic? I found an old thread with 0 replies and posted to it because I thought it an interesting topic. and in five years, no one else thought it worthy of a reply. "interesting". i suppose some could find it so ... sadly ...

Who is this "one" you speak of? Since I'm the "one" who bumped it up, I can only deduce you mean me. However, how does "vicious," "derogatory," and "insulting" equate with "affinity?"couldn't have said it better myself; i was thinking of "self-hate", but you said it better, "of course".

however, the "affinity" that i was actually referring to would be the opinion that "personally, i don't think it's possible".


I'd love to read your thoughts.trust me; no you wouldn't ...

bolding some of your responses isn't really necessary unless, of course, for some reason you want to give it added weight. for the life of me, with respect to this reply, i couldn't imagine why. and in five years, no one else thought it worthy of a reply. "interesting". i suppose some could find it so ... sadly ...

couldn't have said it better myself; i was thinking of "self-hate", but you said it better, "of course".

however, the "affinity" that i was actually referring to would be the opinion that "personally, i don't think it's possible".


trust me; no you wouldn't ...

LOL!
Well, it sure is interesting that it's suddenly "worthy of a reply" NOW. :lol:

No, "self-hate" in my book and LOVE me some ME!

As for your "thoughts," whatever they are, sir, they are only words on a computer screen. I don't know you. You don't know me. So, expressing your "thoughts" on ANYTHING to me is just that, ONLY YOUR THOUGHTS.

Just as my opinions are mine. So, whether you choose to share them or not is on you. No sweat off my nose either way.

with every other black person? I can agree with Elder Osirus when he says that not every black person if divine - there are bad characters amongst us, criminals really, just like in other races. Unifying people based on skin color is an impossible task, because we simply do not have similar wants, desires and dreams. Now for those who want to move ahead politically, then they can form a group to do that. Those who want to stop the spread of false religions they can do that. But we have to accept that we work well in sub-groups achieving specific achievable goals.

Not every Indian or First Nations person feels one with his own "race". Remember race only matters to the whites as a means to identify those whom they wish to privilege and those they wish to exclude.

Oops, baby's got the keyboard again..

Now, this is the sho nuff truth!

" I have no desire to take all black people back to Africa; there are blacks who are no good here and will likewise be no good there." - Marcus Garvey

LOL!
Well, it sure is interesting that it's suddenly "worthy of a reply" NOW. :lol:nah; the responses have been to you not the topic or the poster.

No, "self-hate" in my book and LOVE me some ME!yeah, "self-hate" in my book, too. guess it's a good thing that you do, eh? but what about the rest of us? no love there? hmmm... must be reading the same book ...

As for your "thoughts," whatever they are, sir, they are only words on a computer screen. I don't know you. You don't know me. So, expressing your "thoughts" on ANYTHING to me is just that, ONLY YOUR THOUGHTS.i truly have no desire to express my thoughts to you. i was simply responding to a desire that you expressed:I'd love to read your thoughts. kinda shows some teensy bit of, possibly, "vicious", maybe even wannabe "derogatory" on your part? i'm truly not interested in expressing anything further (<shudder> truly sorry to have been drug this far down into convo with you, ma'am ... <shudder>)

Just as my opinions are mine. So, whether you choose to share them or not is on you. No sweat off my nose either way. which means what that is anything other than an attempt at some feeble "oneupmanship"?

are you gonna let me out of this silliness before it degenerates into something like the other exchanges you have peppered across this board? the only thing i really wanted to say here is that the OP's contribution to the House is one of those sentiments that we all know exist within whatever "community" "black people" have around this planet that just doesn't need to be aired. which should have been obvious given that there have been 0 replies in 5 years!! but, oh! you are so much wiser than all of us that have been here since and we should really have the benefit of your vaunted wisdom even though we have demonstrated that we have no interest in the thread. smh

welcome to the Family ... there goes the neighborhood ... 7 more days ...

are you gonna let me out of this silliness ...

LOL!

Wow. I am honored that you give me that much power to have the means to "let you" out of something which you started!

ROFL!

And as for "doesn't need to be aired," so I see, just "sweep it under the rug." Don't address it and maybe it will go away all by itself.

Yes, we all see those things everyday, maybe even have childhood friends and family members caught in those behavior and cycles; but we shouldn't actually talk about those things because it shouldn't "be aired."

SMH

So, yeah, go ahead and tear each other apart about our different spiritual beliefs and who's "Black" and who's not and who's "African" and who's not, etc; but, BY GOLLY, dontcha dare mention what's wrong within some of our communities and some destructive, dysfunctional behaviors amongst our people because that stuff "doesn't need to be aired."

Okay. I stand corrected.

Does that help:?:


M.E.
:hearts2:


Sure! Why thankee!

what i meant was are you gonna come back with something else empty.

given that you haven't been around long enough for one of these "conversations" to start up again, you wouldn't know that the sentiment, and your trite response have gotten older than dirt.

<sigh> never mind.

"C:/> copy "destee.com 127.0.0.1" >> c:/windows/hosts"

(actually it's:
"mskila@Celery:~$ cp "destee.com 127.0.0.1" >> /etc/hosts", but the other might make more sense to windows users ... although since 9x that hosts file could be anywhere ...)
cya!

<sigh> never mind.

"mskila@Celery:~$ cp "destee.com 127.0.0.1" >> /etc/hosts"
cya!well, i "cheated" and just used a text editor. but it works!! <yippee!!> except that i could wish that it would just fail quietly ... although looking at that error message every time i try will give me a minute to reflect on why i did it ...

but i gotta pull my private messages and grab a copy of this last sig. i guess this time i'll just leave the posts; that was too much work!

are you sure[COSBY]didn't write this? we get all bent out of shape when someone writes this but yet most of us live with it everyday yet we shrug and say[well that's the way we roll]or some such nonsense and everyone has a good laugh,until we get tired of the so called[bling culture]we shouldn't get pissed when others who don't know us except by what they're told talk.

"..given that you haven't been around long enough for one of these "conversations" to start up again, you wouldn't know that the sentiment, and your trite response have gotten older than dirt."


It's ironically funny to me that you would use the word “trite” as a description of anything I've said. However, your statement was redundant because “trite” means “old and over-used,” anyway.

Anywho.

I would venture to say that, at least, 80 to 90% of the topics here, in some way, are about religion and spiritual beliefs; and it is those threads which get the greatest responses. So, when it comes to “self-hate,” it looks to me like many of the members here aren't happy unless they get to tear down another Black about his or her beliefs. However, many here try to excuse their behavior as “well-intentioned” because they are seeking to “enlighten” and “educate” the other brother or sister who suffers from “PSS.”

But, that, to me, is mainly just a cover-up. Many here immensely enjoy, either overtly or covertly, tearing another brother or sister down, calling them names, and insulting their intelligence because they disagree with another's ideologies. ---So much for “Black Unity.”

To me, that's "trite."

However, because I bumped up THIS thread, I gotta be guilty of “hating Black people.” SMH
Now, I did say that the presentation of the subject was ill-intentioned, but I was responding to the QUESTION of the subject about “world-wide unity” amongst Blacks. But, YOU and the other posters in this thread can't seem to get pass the harshness of the “framing” of the example. Admittedly, you said yourself that you didn't come in here to respond to the subject but only to me.

And, that's what is so “OLD,” brother. It is so “OLD” for one Black person to attack another because you disagree with their beliefs or you dislike them; so therefore anything they do or say is looked at with automatic suspicion. And your very behavior is example of what the OP is speaking of....

Yesterday, 2/18, I visited this West African website http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/sil2/r.php?thread=645615 and came across a posting called "THE BLING BLING TRIBE IN NORTH AMERICA posted by a gentleman from Barbados. I found it very distrubing due to its content. I then began to ask myself how and when will we unify as a race when we think so little of each other. I have pasted the above mentioned posting below so that you can read it. How do you respond to such a posting? .....

So, you chose to concentrate on me rather than to answer the question of "How Do We Obtain World-Wide Unity?"

In spite of the ugly words, there was a question here. And it really doesn't matter how "old" the thread is nor how long the member who posted it has been gone. But, you couldn't get pass the examples nor the fact that I commented on it, so you only had negativity to offer.

Yeah, so much for that "world-wide unity."

Yanno Sister Cherryblossom, it truly breaks my heart when i read/see us tearing and verbally beating each other down. Especially when many of us know, and understand the conditioning set in place to make sure this vicious cycle continues.

This brings to mind your thread about understanding and overstanding. Many claim to overstand the situations and dilema's of our people, yet, they don't understand/overstand why some of us feel and react as we do. Instead of addressing the problems we face, they get side tracked into addressing the symtoms and not the cause. I just don't understand it all. What do Black people want? Do we want these conditionings to stop or do we only want to point out who's more sick than the rest of us?

I don't know Sister, sometimes the sickest amongst us are the ones who claim to be the healthiest. One thing i do know is, the majority of us have not escaped the same mental programming as the rest of us. We've only found better ways to conceal it.

:heart:

Yanno Sister Cherryblossom, it truly breaks my heart when i read/see us tearing and verbally beating each other down. Especially when many of us know, and understand the conditioning set in place to make sure this vicious cycle continues.

This brings to mind your thread about understanding and overstanding. Many claim to overstand the situations and dilema's of our people, yet, they don't understand/overstand why some of us feel and react as we do. Instead of addressing the problems we face, they get side tracked into addressing the symptoms and not the cause. I just don't understand it all. What do Black people want? Do we want these conditionings to stop or do we only want to point out who's more sick than the rest of us?

I don't know Sister, sometimes the sickest amongst us are the ones who claim to be the healthiest. One thing i do know is, the majority of us have not escaped the same mental programming as the rest of us. We've only found better ways to conceal it.

:heart:

Well, Purple, I will admit to my "sicknesses" and will try to atone/treat any "side effects" which may result from them. However, I do get disheartened and further "sickened" by absorbing the "sicknesses" of others with no "antidote" for the poisons administered.

Yes Sister, we all have been infected, and at some time inflicted another with our disease. I wonder if the antidote is so difficult to find because we have yet to be completely honest about us....to our individual selves. We seem to keep looking outside of ourselves at the symptoms, and never truly...honestly...addressing the symptoms within.

:heart:

Yes Sister, we all have been infected, and at some time inflicted another with our disease. I wonder if the antidote is so difficult to find because we have yet to be completely honest about us....to our individual selves. We seem to keep looking outside of ourselves at the symptoms, and never truly...honestly...addressing the symptoms within.

:heart:

Well, we're all also guilty of some finger-pointing. I am also; and, although I do try to look within as well and where I am faulty, I try to amend it.


I don't think you're a Christian and no offense meant. But this brings to mind for me a Bible verse:

James 5:
[16] Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Well, we're all also guilty of some finger-pointing. I am also; and, although I do try to look within as well and where I am faulty, I try to amend it.


I don't think you're a Christian and no offense meant. But this brings to mind for me a Bible verse:

James 5:
[16] Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

No offense taken Sister.:couple:

Prayer can be a powerful tool. With our mind we can speak it into existence, but it's our determination and drive which brings it alive.

:heart:

No offense taken Sister.:couple:

Prayer can be a powerful tool. With our mind we can speak it into existence, but it's our determination and drive which brings it alive.

:heart:

Oooh, sistah, you said it!

That's the tricky part! The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak! :lol:

We Will Never Have World Wide Unity...and never did we have it...even before white people were here.

We Will Never Have World Wide Unity...and never did we have it...even before white people were here.

I hear ya...but can we atleast have 1/3rd...

:heart:

are you sure[COSBY]didn't write this?

we get all bent out of shape when someone writes this but yet most of us live with it everyday yet we shrug and say[well that's the way we roll]or some such nonsense and everyone has a good laugh,until we get tired of the so called

[B]we shouldn't get pissed when others who don't know us except by what they're told talk.

Well, although Cosby's statements were plain-spoken, IMO, they weren't mean-spirited nor meant to demean.

But, no matter how harsh this post was, we all know that what it said is true. We may bristle and be offended at the tone and language but that doesn't negate it's truth.

This excerpt didn't say ALL African-Americans behave this way but only a certain group of them; and it said that these behaviors are found amongst this group.

However, I found it interesting that the original poster was more concerned with the "image" and "light" that the excerpt portrayed which keeps us from "world wide unity" rather than the BEHAVIORS of this "tribe" which keeps us from it.


History: The bling-bling are black people of African descent living in the United States of America among the other black people found there. They are all the direct offspring of non-bling-bling black Americans, and like their parents were born into a grievance culture. The appearance of the bling-bling has only occurred within the past 20 years or so....

It's really gotten to the point where I ignore opinions like this to an extent. Most of dudes ideas are based off of ignorance and of what is thrown at him by the media. Brothers and Sisters in Africa have distorted images about African Americans just like African Americans have distorted images about Africans. Just yesterday morning me and my pops were getting into a debate over the Somalia "pirates." He said something really awful that I'm even ashamed to repeat........I no longer hold anything against our people who have distorted views of one another, because I'd rather throw that energy towards the people who are controlling the media, who put these viewpoints out there........

We would have to first build unity among different African communities.

One place we could start is with this forum.

We would have to first build unity among different African communities.

One place we could start is with this forum.

I agree. This is one of the reasons why I believe I might be going to grad school for Pan-African studies. I would really like to get involved with international affairs that impact black folks all around the world. One of the biggest threats to the power structure is some sort of unity among black people....this is why Malcolm was assasinated.

We Will Never Have World Wide Unity...and never did we have it...even before white people were here.

I agree somewhat. I would never expect for all black folks to march towards the sunlight with one another (and we never have, like u stated), but I do think it's possible for African people to have some sort of unity. I see other groups of people that do it, so why not us????

I agree. This is one of the reasons why I believe I might be going to grad school for Pan-African studies. I would really like to get involved with international affairs that impact black folks all around the world. One of the biggest threats to the power structure is some sort of unity among black people....this is why Malcolm was assasinated.



I agree somewhat. I would never expect for all black folks to march towards the sunlight with one another (and we never have, like u stated), but I do think it's possible for African people to have some sort of unity. I see other groups of people that do it, so why not us????

I disagree with Keita. Some of us are in turmoil.

That state cannot continue to exist. It was one of the reasons behind the election of Obama. They thought his election would placate us.

But racists have set something in motion that they will soon regret. They will rue ever insisting upon agreement that we were inferior to them.

No group can stand. . .while thinking itself inferior to another.

We would have to first build unity among different African communities.

.


I think the general consensus is that we can have unity in smaller groups. Then, we could branch out to world-wide.

But, realistically, if we can't come to get together in this country, how can we expect to bridge oceans.

I think the general consensus is that we can have unity in smaller groups. Then, we could branch out to world-wide.

But, realistically, if we can't come to get together in this country, how can we expect to bridge oceans.


Exactly, why couldn't we just start small? Why not start here?

Exactly, why couldn't we just start small? Why not start here?


That's a good question, Mazimtaim!

And it's still a good question, Brother Mazimtaim.

Do not reinvent the wheel

Read everything one can about Marcus Garvey and visit and speak to the surviving menbers of the United Negro improvement Organization

if Garvey was able to do it
1 Without millions
2 Without television or radio
3 Without telephone or internet
4 Without podcasts, facebook or twitter
5 With the majority of the African nations still under colonialism
6 With segregation laws here and one out of every 10 white men a member of the Klan
7 And most of all with the opposition of the Rothschilds, Rockeffellors, and Morgans

Then it can be done now if the will and the effort and love are there

... it can be done now if the will and the effort and love are there


Hmmm....No small feat.

"If "if" wuz a fif'...."


"Will, effort, and love."









"Dear Lord, send a revival and let it begin in me."

Hmmm....No small feat.

"If "if" wuz a fif'...."


"Will, effort, and love."







"Dear Lord, send a revival and let it begin in me."

and getting out of physical an material Jim Crow and segregation was no small feat either.

I in all honesty do not think our portly elder from Jamaica was realy concerned about that.
:time:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TRJfwnWJs:time:

:peace:if you put me in charge that would unite everyone (in calling for my removal).

and getting out of physical an material Jim Crow and segregation was no small feat either.

I in all honesty do not think our portly elder from Jamaica was realy concerned about that.
:time:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TRJfwnWJs:time:


Your link doesn't work, Bro Putney.

You recieved it psychicly, when you responded to the Last Poets post,
it was Time by the Last Poets, sorry about the link, if you cut and paste it should work

Much LOVE!!!!!!!

Oh, okay!


Thanks.








lol @ the psychic reception!

:peace:if you put me in charge that would unite everyone (in calling for my removal).
All BS aside you may have a deeper role in the actual uniting of our people, then anyone of us here,
and contact with the Motherland may exhibit many hidden talents of true Black nationalism and leadership that where previously untapped