I have been wondering lately if it is still worth having children in this dying world. I mean there might be a third world war coming up where we will all be part of and the question is, is such a world a good place for chhildren? And what about the discriminatationn the child might suffer on? And did you know that 60 % of all girls has at least 1 experience of sexual abuse or such (rape)? I would like people's opinion on this one....:( :(

weel, I got that info from statistics at school, and what even more shocking is that every female person in my life has experienced suh a thing. And it variates from rape to beeing kissed or touched without you wanting it it happend, believe me. Maybe statistics said 30 % about 50 years ago when it was still taboo to talk about such things out in the open. But now as you must know things are diffrent both girls, and grown women are coming forward with there experiences. And that is not even all there are worst things in life a newborn child eventually will have to deal with...

This is a cruel world and it is not an easy one. I am all for 2 responsible adults having kids. The problem ascribe from the so called parents who let their children run around out of control. I have a 12 year old cousin who is boy crazy. She is already wearing little skirts, it does not help that her mother (recently divorced) is wearing them too. I brought her a book, Jubilee, to read for her to see the real struggles of a sistah. She willnot read it. She is trying to read the books her mother has like,
"Maintenance Man", "Addicted", and other explicit books. If you do have kids I hope they grow up to be sucessful. When one more sistah or brotha comes up, we all come up!

My point is: It isn't 30% I wish it was! But it isn't that is all. Even in the 90s it could have been 30 % unless those statistics whre about a certain group of people.

it is our purpose in nature to procreate. otherwise life wouldn't go on.

while i can relate to the issue of sexual abuse and molestation, that doesn't define life. it just one of those ugly things that happens.

but is it worth having children if you cannot give them what they need?

How can we fully appreciate the positives without knowing the negatives? Life is beautiful & the young are responsible of change. It's an issue we all can be cautious about, but it isn't new. It's just being focused on in the media.

Hello Glorius Star and Egyptos ... Welcome

Hello Everyone

If you can handle the pain of childbirth and the life long obligation
everything else is icing on da cake.

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Destee

yes it's worth it ......i agree with destee

I think being a parent is wonderful. One must that it is a great responsibility and live up to that responsibility.

What do you think the consequences would be if we stopped having children? :eek:

well after a while, existence in itself would die off, we can't be without children, they are our future without them, humanity itself would crumble

wouldn't it be better for humanity to crumble and eventually disappear? I mean in that way no one would feel and see how hard life can be

Originally posted by Glorious Star
wouldn't it be better for humanity to crumble and eventually disappear? I mean in that way no one would feel and see how hard life can be

Ok. This is my final reply to this thread. Glorious Star...do you happen to work in the Pentagon? At first when I read your comment, I started to ask you whether you were sane, but then I realized that people in the current administration could possibly think like this. Whoa!!!

So, in the event you are serious in the way you think, I hope something happens real soon to help you to change your opinion and on a more positive level.

Peace!

Originally posted by Glorious Star
wouldn't it be better for humanity to crumble and eventually disappear? I mean in that way no one would feel and see how hard life can be why take all of humanity with you ... this can be achieved on an individual basis ...

:heart:

Destee

I just recently had a discussion about having children later on with my sister and we came to one conclusion that have children is somethingt you do because it is might be good for you but not for the child. And I don't mean that no parent in the world takes good care of their children but I just mean: Why bring someone in the world that might suffer just so you can enjoy fatherhood or motherhood? Isn't it better to adopt? To help the children who are already there?

nope--don't do it!!!

go to college, get a good job, make your money and live YOUR life and have YOUR fun.

don't bring someone else here to suffer in this cruel, sick and sad world.

If its such a cruel sick sad world, what is the point of YOU getting a good job, and YOU making good money, and what fun would YOU be having?

If its such a cruel sick sad world, why not have children to enjoy benefits of all this money YOU would be making from YOUR good job, and why not allow the children the same opportunity acheive the same while having all this fun YOU would be having?

Chiggidy check yoself, before you wriggidy wreck yoself, cause encouraging Afrikan people to disrupt the natural order of life is bad fo ya health.

Hello TruBlu and welcome to our forum! I said that I wouldn't post to this thread again but I saw you are new and wanted to welcome you here. Your advice to us to be selfish and to discontinue having children is suicidal for our people, don't you think?

I understand how some Black people's point of view can get pretty grim given how we are often treated but what GOOD do you think will come of us if we don't continue to bring our babies into this world? I don't quite understand the logic behind self-destructive motivations and partying and having a good time as we voluntarily destroy ourselves and our future as a people.

Glorious Star...do you and your sister truly believe that it's better to adopt children that are already here as opposed to giving birth to our own? Sure, adoption is an admirable and worthwhile thing to do, but tell me, what purpose does it serve in and of itself if we stop having more babies? This suggestion sends conflicting messages.

Your question is, "Is it still worth having children?" and I still say and firmly believe that it is not only worth it, but absolutely essential to our survival in the present and the future. Some might believe that this is a sick, sad and cruel world we live in, but to suggest that we adopt a defeatist attitude, lay down and give up, is a weak position to take, in my opinion. We should be THANKFUL that our ancestors didn't take what you are suggesting as an alternative to an oppressive system because if they had, you wouldn't be here today to ask this question.

Some of us need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and thinking like weak people. Learn how to become more warrior-like. If there's something going on in this world that you don't like, stand up and fight against it and keep pressing on by building our community. "Don't give up, don't ever give up!" But if all else fails and you want to give up anyway, then do it, stop whining about it and move out of the other people's way who want to survive and thrive.

Peace.

I think its worth it
Children are such a blessing
Some of us take that for granted
Yet I cant wait until the day I have mine
I feel like I have chilled and partyed as much as I can
Well maybe not but I know I can handle it
Yes this world is cruel-Yes we have to be precautious
But when its my time I will be happier than life itself

I have been wondering lately if it is still worth having children in this dying world. I mean there might be a third world war coming up where we will all be part of and the question is, is such a world a good place for chhildren? And what about the discriminatationn the child might suffer on? And did you know that 60 % of all girls has at least 1 experience of sexual abuse or such (rape)? I would like people's opinion on this one....:( :(

Well, why don't we all just commit suicide now cuz any of us might just get killed in a car accident or contract a fatal disease or just might get struck by lightning?

weel, I got that info from statistics at school, and what even more shocking is that every female person in my life has experienced suh a thing. And it variates from rape to beeing kissed or touched without you wanting it it happend, believe me. Maybe statistics said 30 % about 50 years ago when it was still taboo to talk about such things out in the open. But now as you must know things are diffrent both girls, and grown women are coming forward with there experiences. And that is not even all there are worst things in life a newborn child eventually will have to deal with...

wow....just wow!

but is it worth having children if you cannot give them what they need?

Although it is true that not every man or woman is parent material, giving Life is never wrong. But who gets to determine who is not capable of being good parents? And what should be done about it? Should they all be sterilized?

And if "giving them what they need" is love and support and the tools to be assets to themselves and society, then, yes, it's worth it.

wouldn't it be better for humanity to crumble and eventually disappear? I mean in that way no one would feel and see how hard life can be

Well, bring on the nuclear war so we can all be annihilated and destroy this evil world.

I just recently had a discussion about having children later on with my sister and we came to one conclusion that have children is somethingt you do because it is might be good for you but not for the child. And I don't mean that no parent in the world takes good care of their children but I just mean: Why bring someone in the world that might suffer just so you can enjoy fatherhood or motherhood? Isn't it better to adopt? To help the children who are already there?

If "having children is something you do because it might be good for you but not for the child," then why adopt a child and mess up somebody else's child?

This whole thread was ridiculous. :cool:

What I have learned is if a child is born it comes from divine reasons meaning they have agreed to come into the world after the considering the situation they are coming to.
I have also learned that when an abortion happens then that child has changed their mind because the circumstances has changed because of the result of the trauma the mother will transfer.

that's a difficult one ot answer - whether you should have children or not
I would recommend prayer and discussing it with God first before you decide.

I think it's worth it, like some of the other posters have said, it we don't procreate then there will be no us. Just like everything there is going to be something to battle! Though, I just pray that the Lord has a hedge of protection around my family and myself. Our purpose it to be fruitful and multiply...:)

Overall, I would only hope that if you dont want kids, that you are on a solid bc pill or something or seriously considering becoming monkish=-) sex w/o kid culture can become profoudly degenerate to the point that a people dont even produce and become extinct.

It will always be worthy to have children ......it's part of our reproduction growth

I have been wondering lately if it is still worth having children in this dying world. I mean there might be a third world war coming up where we will all be part of and the question is, is such a world a good place for chhildren? And what about the discriminatationn the child might suffer on? And did you know that 60 % of all girls has at least 1 experience of sexual abuse or such (rape)? I would like people's opinion on this one....:( :(

We need more black babies so dont stop having them.:SuN030:

Of course it's worth it...If we stop having babies that means we as humans have given up on ourselves...We would be allowing ourselves to become extinct...

I think the woman's question was a legitimate one and does not deserve to be ridiculed. Heck, this world is a terrible place and even a parent can not protect their child in the most minimal and reasonable way. To the woman who posted this thread, if you ask the question "Is it still worth having children?" The answer for you would be no. Having children is not something you ponder regretting before you have even had them. If you are regretting having children when you have not even had them yet, once you do have them, I don't see as to how your feelings would get any more or less worse, particularly if the world has not changed. Children are not easy to raise but the love you learn from them is well worth it. However, if you worry about protecting them in this world due to the current condition of this world, you should definitely not have them.



Astrologer4U

I think many of you have missed Glorious Star's point entirely, either on purpose or unintentionally.

This world is vastly overpopulated. In the 1950's, the world population was half of what it is now, 3 billion. Talking about the WORLD, more people live in poverty and destitute than not. And not American poverty where you have shelters and have the chance to receive foodstamps and hopefully get back on your feet, but Indian, African, Asian and Brazilian poverty where people live in shacks, huts, or favelas. No indoor plumbing. One or 2 rooms. Selling on the side of the road because of no adequate work. Children searching barefoot through dangerous garbage in search of food or something to sell. Prostitution of girls and boys and their exploitation. Boys kidnapped and drugged and made to kill other people. Orphans who's parents abandoned them. The available drinking water is contaminated and MOST people in the WORLD do not have good drinking water. High infant and maternal mortality rape. Aids and disease killing off the mothers and fathers and leaving kids homeless and susceptible to abuse and exploitation. People selling their kids into prostitution to make ends meet.

I asked myself why do these families continue to procreate when their lives are soo bleak? Some of these women would limit their procreation or not procreate at all if they could - but they lack or are ignorant of birth control. For you a child is blessing and worth having - because you are 'successful' and have amounted to something and have the means to take care of a child, or will have the means. When that child is your 5th child in successive row and you live in a 2 room favela shack where you have to get water from a well and you have no job, no clothes, no shoes, can't even wash your butt and you sell bananas by the side of the road - then lets see if you think having yet another child is such a blessing or good thing then. With each pregnancy you'd probably sigh and say 'dam, not again. I really don't need this.'

Many people will die without doing anything or amounting to anything. So I've come the conclusion that most of us are here just to take up space. That's it. We provide a backdrop, a prop, for those who become successful. We are the audience who watch the shows on TV, or the sports they play in. We are the peasants or the people that allow the ruling class - be they a king or president, to rule. But for the rest of us.... we really don't offer much of anything to life but destruction. Destruction of ourselves and of this planet. We do more harm than good. We destroyed whole species of animals and humans that we will never see again. You should check this video called 'Life Without Humans' that came on the history channel and now out on DVD. If we weren't here or left for about a 1000 years, Mother Earth would be able to replenish herself from the damage we have done. But in the meantime, we still mess up and consume everything around us and fight among either (literally and figuratively).

I question my own existence in this world (the whole 'why the hell am I here? Nothing good is happening and everything I try to do is a FAILURE). I don't care if my kids grow up to be Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey, I don't want to live my life through them but I have a hard time making my own way.

You say it is selfish NOT to have kids? I say it selfish to have them. We don't live in agricultural society where you need a bunch of kids to work the farms. Children and procreation are essentially not needed, especially with as many people as we now have on the earth. In this day and age, we cause more damage and destruction then good and creativity. The poor do it by their sheer numbers and demand on limited resources. The rich do it with wasteful spending, civil unrest, and making things that contaminate and mess up everything we have - our food, our rivers and oceans, our land, our air, our plants.

What I speak is truth, but ultimately the decision to have kids is a personal one, and I think the desire to have kids is more innate than practical. I say this because I never met a child-free person (a childless person willing to remain childless - which is a noble thing actually) but I have met plenty of childless people who wish and long for a biological child. By all accounts they don't need one, but they want one. I didn't need children, but I desired them... and for selfish reasons....I wanted someone to love me, someone I could kiss and love and be affectionate to. I wanted a baby because babies were cute. I got what I'm want and I do fell blessed that I didn't have sterility. But like I said, I didn't NEED children, I just wanted them.